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Dragonfly
08-03-2008, 12:55 PM
Yes I said it.

I just beat the game, but I wasn't impressed with anything other than the graphics.

The rooms and side missions and even the planets are too repetitive. The choices you make have little to no impact on the actual story. The game itself seemed kind of short and there were no challenges. It's an RPG for dummies that don't mind slaughtering enemies mindlessly with no actual skill or tactics needed. The pathfinding sucks too.

I give it a 7/10. I don't think it deserved all the praise it got.

So.... am I crazy? Anyone else feel this way or disagree?

If I get bored I'll try playing it on the hardest settings.

Dredgon
08-03-2008, 12:58 PM
Dude it had blue boobs, you're a damn *** for giving it a 7/10!

Darkmatter
08-03-2008, 12:59 PM
I liked it, and I'm looking forward to the two upcoming Mass Effect games.

Xzi
08-03-2008, 01:07 PM
Was dumbed down from its KoTOR roots, no doubt. But still a pretty good game, combat/story were both done well. I'd give 8.5/10.

Jonkar
08-03-2008, 01:09 PM
I got bored with it pretty soon. Pretty shitty game imo.

Although the way dialogues are done is great.

Zokten
08-03-2008, 01:10 PM
I agree it is getting overrated praise left and right.

But was a fun game for a single run through (zero replay value in my eyes) and easy game (ran into only one annoying part).

But I did enjoy the codex and the history stuff and information you get.

Also the sniper rifles are OP

BlackVolgan
08-03-2008, 01:26 PM
i played for maybe 10 minutes before i gave up. Maybe i need to give it a better chance, but it just didn't really appeal to me.

Tiarilir
08-03-2008, 01:57 PM
The combat was one of the best I've seen in modern RPG's, yes.
Also, dialogues were awesome, the story was also quite good even though you didn't have much of an impact on it.
I'd give it a 8.5/10

GRCPan
08-03-2008, 02:14 PM
Yes the side quests sucked. But it had better gameplay than the usual point and click rpgs. It is a bit overrated though.

Thoric
08-03-2008, 02:15 PM
Boring side quests and planet exploring were the biggest flaws imo. At first you're like "Wow! I got on this planet and it was just an empty landscape but i found this metal thing and it had imba upgrades in it, and some rare ore and a base with bad guys which some random dude told me i had to kill when i entered the system!" then you go on the next system and guess what - the same fucking thing! But everything else was awesome, i give it a 8.5/10.

Lethn
08-03-2008, 03:34 PM
I give it a bloody 5 or 6 out of 10, story and quests are the very backbone of an RPG, I thought the combat system was well done though, but considering it was Bioware we're talking about here it was way too dumbed down.... I thought some of the ways you could influence the characters if you have enough persuasion skill or whatever were cool but they just didn't give enough options and I didn't really even touch the side quests because they were your typical get x item bring it back to x random NPC who barely had any story behind them.

Honestly? I think it was a bloody disgrace for Bioware because the really interesting characters like the rex guy and the girl Tali who hung around the engineering ( forgotten the name of the race ) were actually one of the more interesting personalities in the game along with some of the others like the spectre your with. But they went and did the classic current Bioware thing of seeming really interesting at first but then all of a sudden your forced onto the main plot when you don't want to be and pretty much had to deal with the typical "Tee hee hee, I'm a braindead idiot" or "I'm a soldier who hates everyone except you tee hee".

If Dragon Age follow the same fucking routes then I sure as hell am not touching any of Biowares games in the future let alone buying them, most of the money would probably go to EA anyway.

*huggles Baldurs Gate 2*

spike47
08-03-2008, 03:36 PM
Yeah the game is completely overated.

That reminds me of Grand Theft Auto 4. 10/10? :bang: :ninja:

Lethn
08-03-2008, 03:38 PM
Fucks sake Grand Theft Auto 4 really did it for me, I didn't mind the Grand Theft Auto series, it was alright, but AGAIN it was a typical fucking case of the whole game world being annoyingly static and I hate that so I decided not to by Grand Theft Auto 4, it's really funny because there was a GTA fanboi in my class and it's like.... Okay why the FUCK are you praising auto-targeting? I mean for fucks sake, it's supposed to be a third person SHOOTER not a third person haveeverythingdoneforyougame.

I think we're almost at the point now where as soon as a game for a franchise comes out idiots are willing to praise it if a few checks are slipped under the desk even if there is absolutely no reason to do so, look at Halo 3 for fucks sake, bloody infuriating.

Nexus
08-03-2008, 03:43 PM
Yeah the game is completely overated.

That reminds me of Grand Theft Auto 4. 10/10?

Yep, deserves it I think.

Marrik
08-03-2008, 03:46 PM
it wasnt as good as its praise, but it was a fun game imo. driving around on planets in the APC was always cool i thought, even though every mission was really just 1 of 2 or 3 missions over and over (board the ship and kill the guys. drive to the base and kill the guys then go inside and kill the rest of the guys)

The Lost One
08-03-2008, 03:48 PM
Where's my DLC and patches you lazy bastards!

Yantheman
08-03-2008, 04:35 PM
I honestly cant even remember the last somewhat "big" game title to come out i the last couple of years that WASNT overhyped and overrated.

Killuminati
08-03-2008, 05:08 PM
Was dumbed down from its KoTOR roots, no doubt.

Amen, KOTOR pwns this crapola.

Atnas
08-03-2008, 05:19 PM
7,5/10 sounds more reasonable, but it's true.

Mass Effect is overrated as hell, but much like Fable, it's still a good game.

Zokten
08-03-2008, 07:13 PM
The combat was one of the best I've seen in modern RPG's, yes.
Also, dialogues were awesome, the story was also quite good even though you didn't have much of an impact on it.
I'd give it a 8.5/10

The combat was nothing new or impressive.

Dragonfly
08-03-2008, 07:17 PM
Good, I'm not crazy.

I agree with 95% of the replies here.

I really felt like combat was weak. Pathfinding was so shitty I didn't even bother to send my squad mates into cover positions because they didn't even know how to get to them. The enemy AI was just as bad.

The story was cool and had a lot of potential, but in the end it's a mediocre game.

Here's to hoping Fallout is better and not plagued by the same problems.

The Lost One
08-03-2008, 07:26 PM
Good, I'm not crazy.

I agree with 95% of the replies here.

I really felt like combat was weak. Pathfinding was so shitty I didn't even bother to send my squad mates into cover positions because they didn't even know how to get to them. The enemy AI was just as bad.

The story was cool and had a lot of potential, but in the end it's a mediocre game.

Here's to hoping Fallout is better and not plagued by the same problems.

Considering Fallout 3 is being made by a completely different company and has a very different combat system it should be ok.

Also, as read in PC gamer, eating corpses is a feature in the game at the moment.

Leonon
08-03-2008, 07:33 PM
Wait, cannibalism in Fallout? Link please?

Zokten
08-03-2008, 07:36 PM
Good, I'm not crazy.

I agree with 95% of the replies here.

I really felt like combat was weak. Pathfinding was so shitty I didn't even bother to send my squad mates into cover positions because they didn't even know how to get to them. The enemy AI was just as bad.

The story was cool and had a lot of potential, but in the end it's a mediocre game.

Here's to hoping Fallout is better and not plagued by the same problems.

Considering Fallout 3 is being made by a completely different company and has a very different combat system it should be ok.

Also, as read in PC gamer, eating corpses is a feature in the game at the moment.

Don't get your hopes up, with them already nerfing he number of skills, merging of traits and perks. How their videos at E3 and how they only talked about combat means most likely going to be a combat focused game. Easier gameplay, fast travel, just lots of random bullshit.

Only thing I want to hear from Beth's mouth about the game now is that they are releasing a SDK with the game so modders can fix the the game.

Rokolith
08-03-2008, 07:46 PM
Yes I said it.

.

You're not the first, and I agree.

Fro
08-03-2008, 07:51 PM
Yeah the game is completely overated.

That reminds me of Grand Theft Auto 4. 10/10? :bang: :ninja:

Yeh GTA4 was a flop i was fooled into buying by the website reviews all giving it such high scores but it was crappy.

Killuminati
08-03-2008, 07:57 PM
yah, the single player for GTAIV was good since its what you are expecting. As for online...it was fucking abysmal. It was horribly disappointing.

Haldred
08-03-2008, 08:02 PM
FOkay why the FUCK are you praising auto-targeting? I mean for fucks sake, it's supposed to be a third person SHOOTER not a third person haveeverythingdoneforyougame.
.
You can disable auto-targeting :rolleyes:
As for Mass Effect it is still one of my favorites games to have played. The ending was epic and I enjoyed my 23 hours of my life wasted. And in the end, what else can we ask from a game than to make it worth. Obviously I wasn't born around the time of Baldur's Gate 2 or any of the old classics. But I believe you guys have a certain bit of nostalgia to those. The genre has changed, the demographic has changed and the games themselves have changed. Maybe for the worst or for the better, I am not going to judge it is too soon. I only hope they get the next two more in-depth side-stories and more character development overall and that is all I can ask from them. Other than the side-quests and character development it was a good game.

Fro
08-03-2008, 08:04 PM
yah, the single player for GTAIV was good since its what you are expecting. As for online...it was fucking abysmal. It was horribly disappointing.

I found the single player disapointing aswell, they made it more realistic and took away alot of the fun and alot of the things you could actualy do and replaced it with a few things you could watch and a fucking mobile phone. The online was fail because matches never filled up so you were normaly playing with about 3 other people (in my experience) and auto targeting (no need to explain why)

Killuminati
08-03-2008, 08:16 PM
I found the single player disapointing aswell, they made it more realistic and took away alot of the fun and alot of the things you could actualy do and replaced it with a few things you could watch and a fucking mobile phone. The online was fail because matches never filled up so you were normaly playing with about 3 other people (in my experience) and auto targeting (no need to explain why)

Yah, thats the reason why I sold that piece of shit. I hate when you can't browse through game rooms. Plus every *** out there had auto targeting on for turf mode.

Zokten
08-03-2008, 08:19 PM
You can disable auto-targeting :rolleyes:
As for Mass Effect it is still one of my favorites games to have played. The ending was epic and I enjoyed my 23 hours of my life wasted. And in the end, what else can we ask from a game than to make it worth. Obviously I wasn't born around the time of Baldur's Gate 2 or any of the old classics. But I believe you guys have a certain bit of nostalgia to those. The genre has changed, the demographic has changed and the games themselves have changed. Maybe for the worst or for the better, I am not going to judge it is too soon. I only hope they get the next two more in-depth side-stories and more character development overall and that is all I can ask from them. Other than the side-quests and character development it was a good game.

Changed for the worse.

Killuminati
08-03-2008, 08:21 PM
Changed for the worse.

this

Dragonfly
08-03-2008, 09:08 PM
Obviously I wasn't born around the time of Baldur's Gate 2 or any of the old classics. But I believe you guys have a certain bit of nostalgia to those.

Trust me, that isn't what it is. BGI and BGII have a story you can affect and characters you can influence. It's huge it's epic and best of all, the game and the story don't fall flat.

Go back and play BGI and BGII. You'll see exactly what I'm talking about. I'm amazed that a game made 8 years ago that takes less than 2 GB can feel so much larger than a game released in the last year that takes up more than 5 GB.

Hell, I think some of the original Ultima games might seem larger in scope than Mass Effect.

Don't get me wrong, Mass Effect was good, but it just wasn't the masterpiece that all the gaming publications make it out to be. Like I said, it's a mediocre game at best.

spike47
08-03-2008, 09:17 PM
Fucks sake Grand Theft Auto 4 really did it for me, I didn't mind the Grand Theft Auto series, it was alright, but AGAIN it was a typical fucking case of the whole game world being annoyingly static and I hate that so I decided not to by Grand Theft Auto 4, it's really funny because there was a GTA fanboi in my class and it's like.... Okay why the FUCK are you praising auto-targeting? I mean for fucks sake, it's supposed to be a third person SHOOTER not a third person haveeverythingdoneforyougame.

I think we're almost at the point now where as soon as a game for a franchise comes out idiots are willing to praise it if a few checks are slipped under the desk even if there is absolutely no reason to do so, look at Halo 3 for fucks sake, bloody infuriating.


I find it hard to entertain myself with GTA4 now. I'm currently trying to kill all of the girlfreinds you can get in-game and it's either that or geting killed my noobs online.

I wonder if saints row 2 will be better

Nexus
08-03-2008, 10:23 PM
I find it hard to entertain myself with GTA4 now. I'm currently trying to kill all of the girlfreinds you can get in-game and it's either that or geting killed my noobs online.

I wonder if saints row 2 will be better

Only problem with GTA4 online is that it seems every fucking match has the same ruleset.

Star Island (is it? The small one with all the tourist stuff on it)

Auto aim On

Heavy Weapons

So each go lasts approximatly 5 seconds, give or take 3 seconds. I jest not, it sucks. I hope PC online is superior, no cheating auto aim.

Loose
08-03-2008, 10:32 PM
Nailed it dude. Way overrated. I played it through and I'm playing it through again, but it's nothing amazing. I mean, you really don't impact the story too much. The ending is pretty lame too.

The best way to judge a game is to think what it'd be like with bad graphics. I'd snap the CD in half if not for the graphics.

Atnas
08-04-2008, 01:08 AM
Only problem with GTA4 online is that it seems every fucking match has the same ruleset.

Star Island (is it? The small one with all the tourist stuff on it)

Auto aim On

Heavy Weapons

So each go lasts approximatly 5 seconds, give or take 3 seconds. I jest not, it sucks. I hope PC online is superior, no cheating auto aim.

You are playing GTA4 on the PS3, aren't you?

SentrySteve
08-04-2008, 02:42 AM
DMass Effect was good...Like I said, it's a mediocre game at best.

You call it good, then call it mediocre. Which is it?

I thought Mass Effect was a good game and by good I mean better than average. I've found that it's very rare for any game to live up to the hype so I've disengaged myself from most of the hype-machines like PC Gamer / IGN / Gamespy / etc.

I'd give it an 8.5 out of 10.

Dragonfly
08-04-2008, 03:12 AM
You call it good, then call it mediocre. Which is it?

Since your going to be gay with words how about this....

It's not the great game everyone says it is.

Of course you would have gotten the impression I was saying that if you had read anything I posted.

omnigol
08-04-2008, 03:17 AM
Nah mass effect is awesome. Your opinion is just stupid. "oh I found an objective complaint" =/= the game isn't fucking awesome. Compare it to anything lately. Mass effect rocks.

Zokten
08-04-2008, 03:36 AM
Nah mass effect is awesome. Your opinion is just stupid. "oh I found an objective complaint" =/= the game isn't fucking awesome. Compare it to anything lately. Mass effect rocks.

Sorry Mass effect is a decent game at best.

YoMaNaTiOn
08-04-2008, 03:41 AM
I liked it. If the sidequests were not complete ass it would be a masterpiece.

SentrySteve
08-04-2008, 03:45 AM
Since your going to be gay with words how about this....

It's not the great game everyone says it is.

Of course you would have gotten the impression I was saying that if you had read anything I posted.

Heh, yeah I think the game is pretty cool!

It's a piece of shit.

SkullPizza
08-04-2008, 03:47 AM
Listen, Mass Effect looked good had a pretty cool story, solid voice acting, fun third person shooter controls, and pretty in depth character customization.

It wasn't hugely groundbreaking but it was a solid rpg that I actually played through all of, which I can't say for most of the rpgs i start.

Most of the side quests did seem like rushed grind fests.

The guns and armor could have been differentiated more.

The AI was fairly predictable.

Those three things pretty much made the game not worth playing through twice.

I liked mass effect but no, it was not the best rpg ever. It was worth playing through at least once however.

I will admit to being nostalgic for chrono trigger because there's something about playing a good rpg as a child that is hard to recapture. That feeling of wonder and adventure. children are so much better at transporting themselves into their imagination than adults. ah well

i doubt anything will ever top chrono trigger for me but we'll see.