Homeless finds a wallet with 1000$ and gives it back

[kehmesis]

Sorry the article is in french, but there's not much else in there anyway. He basically found the wallet as well as a phone number. He is saving up to 700$ to rent an apartment and get off the streets, but he felt it was wrong because it wasn't his money.

The lady was grateful (obviously) and offered him 50$, which he refused. She has 3 kids and wouldn't have been able to afford her rent this month.

http://www.cyberpresse.ca/article/20080802/CPINSOLITE/80802045/5406/CPINSOLITE

Would you do the same? I don't think forumfall would :)

[MattMystrieo]

Nice chap.... Abit to nice perhaps?

[Lorthral]

It's good to see people doing nice things like that. Good for him. :)

[Jezrith]

Would you do the same? I don't think forumfall would :)


I would, but your right I bet most forumfallers wouldn't.

[kehmesis]

I would, but your right I bet most forumfallers wouldn't.

What if you were homeless? ;)

[Bunkah]

I would have kept everything!..and used her credit card too....

[Mordhak]

Anyone who is stupid enough to carry around $1000 in cash and then actually lose it deserves to have it stolen.

[kehmesis]

I would have kept everything!..and used her credit card too....

Phew, thanks. I thought I was on the kitty online forums.

[omnigol]

You're french-canadian?

[Bunkah]

You're french-canadian?

Obviously ... Cyberpress.ca is in french and .CA is Canada... :sly:

[IcePillow]

If it was me, I wouldn't have found the wallet in the first place.

[Mippoose]

Anyone who is stupid enough to carry around $1000 in cash and then actually lose it deserves to have it stolen.

Mr. Internet tough guy.

Yay for good people!

[Tiarilir]

I probably would've kept it, lol. Only take the money and leave the wallet behind though.

[Incanam]

I probably would have given it back.

If I was homeless, however, I don't know what I would have done. I want to say I would have given it back but I'm not too sure since I've never been homeless. On the otherhand, the lady wouldn't have been able to pay her rent if she didn't get the wallet back, and I wouldn't want to be responsible for that.

[Carnivo]

I would have PvPed the lady and then looted everything she had (including the wallet).

Edit: Oops, didn't know this was OT.

[Shiva-PIC]

If I found it with contact information/identification I'd give it back. However, if I found $1000 just sitting on the street I'd probably keep it.

[Nexus]

If I was homeless and I found a nice amount of money, I would've pretended it was from some really evil bastard with a lot of money anyway, and kept it.

[Jezrith]

What if you were homeless? ;)

For me to be homeless I'd have to be a complete different person than who I am now. I don't know what that person would do.

[Nehemia]

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I'm stunned. Now, if I really had the money, I'd pay the man a nice bath, haircut and a fancy suit then, pay the dude's 12 months rent & say have a nice life. That guy isn't human, such a deed when you're in deep shit yourself is inhuman.

[Matriel]

I'd have given it back also.

[Nehemia]

I'd have given it back also.

Bullshit you'd have.

[Matriel]

Bullshit you'd have.

Got anything to back that up or just projecting that you're a thieving bitch onto me?

[verboten]

Anyone who is stupid enough to carry around $1000 in cash and then actually lose it deserves to have it stolen.

Many people have screwed up their banks accounts and as they became unable to pay for the fees associated with writing bad checks are unable to have an account. A simple accounting error can quickly cause you to have exorbitant fees. If you do not have the income to resolve these fees, you cannot have another checking account. While this has not happened to me, I know it has happened to some people that I know. Rather than paying off the debt they simply chose to handle their finances with cash.

[Largion]

He was homeless not a thife. ;)

[Bunkah]

He was homeless not a thife. ;)

I'm pretty sure the E comes "before" the F...

Oh well.. I'm just messing with you.. I hate your signature.. that's about it.. and the forums are boring today...

[Viluin]

What a nice person! :D I would've given it back as well. My conscience would've gnawed at me for the rest of my life if I hadn't. :(

[alfaroverall]

I would've taken the $50 that she offered, but yeah I would've given it back if I could. If I hadn't found anyone within a couple of weeks I'd definitely have just taken it. Being homeless, I might also have spent some of it as I looked for the original owner, and then told her there wasn't as much in there when I gave it back (spent $100 and given her back $900, for example). But I definitely wouldn't have taken all of it if I could have helped it.
For me to be homeless I'd have to be a complete different person than who I am now. I don't know what that person would do.
There is this, yeah. It's an interesting thought to consider; what else would have to change for any given aspect of our current universe to change?

[Gem]

Return it and the kill her for the l00t

[The Cougar]

Picked up the wallet, said "Yay, a thousand bucks!" and happily walked away with them.

[Mordhak]

Return it and the kill her for the l00t

Double crossing ftw. Maximum XP for completing the quest and maximum gold for taking it back afterwards. And seeing as you returned it to her first and got a karma boost from that you won't have to worry about aligment penalties either. It's a win win situation without a catch.

[Kuri]

Woulda when out and bought another cheap beer and stash the rest in my pocket with the keys for the mustang down the road.

[Astaren]

I'd get a cold beer and the largest beef in the city rather than just go and give that money back.

[surGeonFFS]

I would've kidnapped her kids and held them for ransom.

[Dreadknought]

I'd get a cold beer and the largest beef in the city rather than just go and give that money back.

Largest beef? Is that some finnish thing to go buy a huge beef thing?

Im assuming beef is more expensive where you live.

[Spinewire]

I would have kept it....

That good a nature might explain why this human door mat is on the streets.

[Nefastus]

Sorry the article is in french, but there's not much else in there anyway. He basically found the wallet as well as a phone number. He is saving up to 700$ to rent an apartment and get off the streets, but he felt it was wrong because it wasn't his money.

The lady was grateful (obviously) and offered him 50$, which he refused. She has 3 kids and wouldn't have been able to afford her rent this month.

http://www.cyberpresse.ca/article/20080802/CPINSOLITE/80802045/5406/CPINSOLITE

Would you do the same? I don't think forumfall would :)

See, we aren't so bad afterall.

[Metal Wolf]

Would have asked for a BJ as the reward.

[palo god]

I would give it back.

[Killuminati]

Only a complete imbecile wouldn't have kept it in his situation. However, he is homeless so it makes sense.

[Arkh]

Sorry the article is in french, but there's not much else in there anyway. He basically found the wallet as well as a phone number. He is saving up to 700$ to rent an apartment and get off the streets, but he felt it was wrong because it wasn't his money.

The lady was grateful (obviously) and offered him 50$, which he refused. She has 3 kids and wouldn't have been able to afford her rent this month.

http://www.cyberpresse.ca/article/20080802/CPINSOLITE/80802045/5406/CPINSOLITE

Would you do the same? I don't think forumfall would :)
I would totally have kept the money. But this guy deserves all respect for having so much moral.

[Uzik]

European homeless don't need the money since the government subsidizes their costs by taxing working people more.


American homeless could beat up French homeless IMO.


Since Guilianni left, the homeless have come back to NYC in force. Some are amusing, some are scary. The best bet is to not look at them UNLESS they talk to you. If they talk to you and you ignore them, it will usually piss them off.

I remember having a conversation with a homeless guy once. He seemed pretty high, but it was cool. He said that me and my friends were good kids, and he talked shit about the people who ignored him.

[Leeroy]

European homeless don't need the money since the government subsidizes their costs by taxing working people more.


American homeless could beat up French homeless IMO.


Since Guilianni left, the homeless have come back to NYC in force. Some are amusing, some are scary. The best bet is to not look at them UNLESS they talk to you. If they talk to you and you ignore them, it will usually piss them off.

I remember having a conversation with a homeless guy once. He seemed pretty high, but it was cool. He said that me and my friends were good kids, and he talked shit about the people who ignored him.
Where I live we have separate section of town (across the river and train tracks) where all the homeless/druggies/poor people live. Needless to say many people avoid it, but damn, it has great fishing.

[BeSt]

Anyone who is stupid enough to carry around $1000 in cash and then actually lose it deserves to have it stolen.

That's a rationalization and not a justification, thief.

[HorrorHotel]

That's a rationalization and not a justification, thief.

Survival of the fittest!

[slugy]

i think id prolly take the cash. 1000 bucks aint a shy amount.

[Kebek]

European homeless don't need the money since the government subsidizes their costs by taxing working people more.


They don't tax the working people more, they tax the companies more.

[kordoyn]

No wonder the guy is homeless.

[Everto]

This is one of the moments where he ended up in the situation, "Bad things happen to good people."

[Xtra-Medium]

his actions don't speak of logical survival instinct

[BlackVolgan]

his actions don't speak of logical survival instinct

thats why its comforting to know that even the lowest people on the social pyramid still have morals.

[kehmesis]

Btw, the homeless guy is from California, not french canadian.

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I am seriously thinking this over. I have pretty much all day. I'm not sure what I'd do.

One thing is sure, I would definitely consider taking the cash and walking away. I'd feel pretty bad about it, but I'd try to rationalize it.

I obviously couldn't live with myself if I knew I hurt a whole family. But we don't know that, we won't ever know that if we just take the cash and leave.

That being said, you can rationalize keeping the cash telling yourself things like "If someone else found it, he wouldn't return it, so it's as good as lost money." and better yet: "someone with 1000$ in his wallet definitely doesn't need my sympathy. He's probably rich."

It's a tough choice for me. I'd love to be able to say "I'd give it back, too", as many of you have said, but in the end, I have to be wondering whether it would be a lie or not.

I certainly can't say for sure.

[MinusInnocence]

Double crossing ftw. Maximum XP for completing the quest and maximum gold for taking it back afterwards. And seeing as you returned it to her first and got a karma boost from that you won't have to worry about aligment penalties either. It's a win win situation without a catch.Consider also that not only would he have been able to afford his $700 goal for the first month of rent in a new apartment, she herself would have been unable to pay her rent and would have been kicked out. It was serendipity and that douchebag went and fucked everything up.

[Kaorn]

Anyone who is stupid enough to carry around $1000 in cash and then actually lose it deserves to have it stolen.

Yea, if the money you are using to pay for rent and feeding your children is in your wallet, you better keep track of that damn thing.

[MinusInnocence]

Maybe she lost it punching out a Congressman.

[Crysill]

Two major factors for me would be:

1. If I was completely alone and out of sight when I found the wallet.
2. If I knew who it belonged to, and the reason why they had that money.

If there was anyone who has reason to be suspicious of me or could even identify me, I would pick up the wallet and return it to its owner.

If I was more or less alone or there was a good chance nobody would notice, I would likely take the wallet and investigate some. If I had reason to believe this money was very important to someone, I would probably return it if I was in at least a moderately good mood. If I didn't have such a reason, didn't know why they needed that money, or was not in the best of moods, I would probably take the cash out and leave everything else in the wallet, then put it back where I found it.

[Foxodi]

I would return it... but then I wouldn't be homeless :o
If I was homeless (and had no family/friends I could stay at) I prob would have kept it.

[Atnas]

Wow, that's a very strong thing to do, especially for a homeless.

[Pcheez]

Taken the cash and left the money.

I dont actually need it but it feels good to be immoral.

[Spinewire]

Taken the cash and left the money.
?

[Darkmatter]

I'd so take the money and leave the cash.

[Death's Chill]

If there was information that would allow me to contact the owner, yes I would.

If not, I would spend it. To be honest, I would of accepted a reward, but then I wouldn't of been mad if one was not offered. :p

[Spart]

Btw, the homeless guy is from California, not french canadian.

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I am seriously thinking this over. I have pretty much all day. I'm not sure what I'd do.

One thing is sure, I would definitely consider taking the cash and walking away. I'd feel pretty bad about it, but I'd try to rationalize it.

I obviously couldn't live with myself if I knew I hurt a whole family. But we don't know that, we won't ever know that if we just take the cash and leave.

That being said, you can rationalize keeping the cash telling yourself things like "If someone else found it, he wouldn't return it, so it's as good as lost money." and better yet: "someone with 1000$ in his wallet definitely doesn't need my sympathy. He's probably rich."

It's a tough choice for me. I'd love to be able to say "I'd give it back, too", as many of you have said, but in the end, I have to be wondering whether it would be a lie or not.

I certainly can't say for sure.

Pretty much the same for me. If I knew what it was for, I know I would give it back. But since the only way I would know what the money was for was if I had already called her, at which point I've made the decision to give it back.

I don't know. Maybe do a bit of research first. There must of been other cards in there, so I would at least try to see who the person was before I made the decision. Take a look at there house. If it was some mansion with an Aston Martin in the driveway I would walk away with a grin on my face. If it was some run down shack or some such, I'd probably be forced to give it back.

Still, extremely difficult thing to do.

[Spinewire]

If there was information that would allow me to contact the owner, yes I would.

If not, I would spend it. To be honest, I would of accepted a reward, but then I wouldn't of been mad if one was not offered. :p
If someone goes out of there way to give you your wallet back stuffed full of cash then it's just rude not to offer them some.

I can't belive she only offered him $50

[Killuminati]

I can't belive she only offered him $50

Thats how people are. It doesn't mean you need to feel entitled to more because of your decision.

[Atnas]

or maybe she couldn't afford to give more, altough in the face of the possible loss, she could've at least given a lot of it.

Anwyay I've come to the conclusion that if I had found the wallet with information about the owner in it, I would've tried to contact them. If no info and only money, I'd take it for myself, simple as that.

[MiniArcher]

if it were me i would take $500 and give $500 back in the walet and ran before she figured out...:p

[Maglubiyet]

When I worked at a grocery store I found a bank envelope with 350$ inside of it. I turned it in and a few days later a women who took it out to go on a business trip came by and claimed it. I was glad I did it cause she turned out to be one of my neighbors and she gave me 50$.

[Astaren]

Largest beef? Is that some finnish thing to go buy a huge beef thing?

Im assuming beef is more expensive where you live.

I assume many would get something tasty, it's not a finnish thing to buy beef, but buying beer is :D

[Misha]

I would've taken the $50 that she offered, but yeah I would've given it back if I could. If I hadn't found anyone within a couple of weeks I'd definitely have just taken it. Being homeless, I might also have spent some of it as I looked for the original owner, and then told her there wasn't as much in there when I gave it back (spent $100 and given her back $900, for example). But I definitely wouldn't have taken all of it if I could have helped it.

There is this, yeah. It's an interesting thought to consider; what else would have to change for any given aspect of our current universe to change?

Assuming that I were homeless, I believe that I would have an even better sight on needs being met and what a difference that shortage could make in someone's life. Yes, I still believe I would have made a strong attempt to return the money, it would be extremely dishonorable not to do so. Upon meeting the woman and her offering of money, to discover that she would be shorting herself for the rent. I would refuse the reward. Though I believe that I would ask her if she had a meal to offer instead. People do not like to be turned down when they make such an offering, it would be an insult to not take a thing in return. At least in my culture.

[Death's Chill]

If someone goes out of there way to give you your wallet back stuffed full of cash then it's just rude not to offer them some.

I can't belive she only offered him $50

That depends on their financial situation. If they needed the cash for rent/bills/food, I wouldn't expect them to offer a reward.

[Red Morgan]

Who the hell carries $1000 around in their wallet if they're that poor?

Anyways, I've always returned every wallet I've ever found. If I was desperately hungry or something, I'd definitely keep it.

[Killuminati]

Who the hell carries $1000 around in their wallet if they're that poor?


"illegal" mexicans do because they fear being caught by the police so they walk around with all their money. Its stupid but they aren't exactly the most intelligent people out there.