Drill Here Drill Now

[alhazred]

so here is the question who here is for what

(the hydrogen car thing they can use the powerplants that need to run 24/7 to produce hydrogen at night when the power drain is low so they dont waist power. + the hydrogen i am talking about would by a hydrogen fuel cell not an internal combustion)

[EAZYmfE]

Drill everywhere.

[Kietharr]

I voted for all of them because it seemed like the cool thing to do.

Except the pelosi option, what, do you think I'm some sort of ****?

[Killuminati]

I'm with pelosi since shes obviously a general for the change brigade.

[Honorius]

Lol at the Pelosi option.

[Spinewire]

Nuke and renewable plz

[Mordhak]

Drill in yer arse.

Yay Spinewire's sig is back!

[Simmy]

All except the last one.

[Helgeran]

Burn down the magical forest and drill for mana everywhere.

[alhazred]

I'm with pelosi since shes obviously a general for the change brigade.

... sarcasm???

(yes stalling an issue refusing to let it go to a vote i see how that moves things forward)

[Mordhak]

Burn down the magical forest and drill for mana everywhere.

/thread

[Helgeran]

Actually I am for all of those options. Energy is and will always be wealth. I don't see why you couldn't use up the oil as long as it is cost effective and at the same time fund research into being less oil dependant, is it a lobbyist thing? I am fond of nuclear power because it's awesome and we could use it so much better if they just researched it better. We actually had a 20 year or something -research ban- because of some retarded anti nuclear shit we signed here. Absolutely ridiculous. Like: strange it before we can use it better omg! I hate the green party because I care so much about our actual environment and society, not being some stupid romantic that thinks growing your own potatoes are fun.

[Killuminati]

Yah, nuclear is definitely the way to go. In the U.S. we had a ton of new regulations added ever since the Three Mile Island accident. The funny part about it is, not one person died or even was harmed.

[Helgeran]

Yah, nuclear is definitely the way to go. In the U.S. we had a ton of new regulations added ever since the Three Mile Island accident. The funny part about it is, not one person died or even was harmed.
Nuclear weapons have given nuclear energy such a bad name. The winds blew most of the Chernobyl fallout here and the calculated death toll is 20 something, of course it fucked up the bussiness for reindeer herders and berry pickers but who eats reindeer anyway? I bet if they calculated the death toll from particles released by plants run on fossil fuel per Joule nuclear power would shine like the fucking messiah even if you count all those indian miners dying from extracting it.

Hydrogen power = awesome. Problem is you can't expand forever since there's a finite amount of rivers. Sweden's energy production for the grid is awesome with about 50% being hydro power and 50% nuclear power. It's retarded the "environmentalists" want to shut the nukeplats down because that would only mean we'd have to import energy which would either be nuclear energy from Finland or more likely due to the pricing: coal power from Poland.

[[LoD] EE]

so here is the question who here is for what

(the hydrogen car thing they can use the powerplants that need to run 24/7 to produce hydrogen at night when the power drain is low so they dont waist power. + the hydrogen i am talking about would by a hydrogen fuel cell not an internal combustion)

One thing that would help this out would be knowing the difference between WASTE and WAIST.

I voted for everything above solar energy.

[alhazred]

EE;1520257']One thing that would help this out would be knowing the difference between WASTE and WAIST.

I voted for everything above solar energy.

i blame my poor spelling on this countries public schools

[Killuminati]

Nuclear weapons have given nuclear energy such a bad name. The winds blew most of the Chernobyl fallout here and the calculated death toll is 20 something, of course it fucked up the bussiness for reindeer herders and berry pickers but who eats reindeer anyway? I bet if they calculated the death toll from particles released by plants run on fossil fuel per Joule nuclear power would shine like the fucking messiah even if you count all those indian miners dying from extracting it.


Chernobyl shouldn't even be mentioned anymore. Nuclear energy has been getting safer as the days go by. France wouldn't be powering their whole country with it. If it was gonna cause babies to grow tentacles.

[Tomaj]

i beleve we should use all available options. oil is a good fuel source but of course it wont last forever. and when it dose run out the other sources of fuel and energy will be able to sustain us after haveing been developed far enugh for even solar to be more usefull. note the reason i think solar is not very effective is becase despite the length of time a solar cell is usefull for it still has a way to go to be able to absorb enugh energy to gather enugh energy to fule any home but also enugh for people to sell off to those who liv in places that have very little sun and ocasional wind i.e northern cali. some what frequent storms but the sky is covered in clouds almost all the time.

[Tomaj]

Chernobyl shouldn't even be mentioned anymore. Nuclear energy has been getting safer as the days go by. France wouldn't be powering their whole country with it. If it was gonna cause babies to grow tentacles.

not to mention the eficency research that has been done to allow the fuel rods to be used longer before becomeing to contaminated to be used eficently.

[Kekshorts]

nuclear and renewable for me as well, if we were forced to drill, offshore would be my first choice, oil shale is a joke.

[[LoD] EE]

i blame my poor spelling on this countries public schools

Its second or third grade English, I would consider that a poor excuse.

[Jangang]

All of the above other than the Pelosi option...

[Spineless_DoO]

All of the above. Why the fuck not? There is no downside.

[Helgeran]

What is Pelosi?

[Spineless_DoO]

EE;1520308']Its second or third grade English, I would consider that a poor excuse.

I blame the growing population of aliens who dont speak or write english. Its easy to get off track when you are speaking broken spam all day long.

[Metal Wolf]

Need more nukes.

[Leonon]

Chernobyl shouldn't even be mentioned anymore. Nuclear energy has been getting safer as the days go by. France wouldn't be powering their whole country with it. If it was gonna cause babies to grow tentacles.They won't grow tentacles, but the reality is much, much worse (http://fc07.deviantart.com/fs8/i/2005/339/3/b/Stewie___for_Samurai007_by_Sapphire911.j pg).

[Ludo]

Offshore gives great income, but seeing as pollution (not just co2 is a potential problem) I'd want to use more solar power not sure if I can.

[Jangang]

I just wanted to say that when I read the thread title, I so wasn't thinking oil...

Maybe that was because I was watching a movie about a Virgin who wanted to get nailed on national tv on my other monitor, or maybe just cuz...

Carry on...

[Vanno]

Drill Drill Drill (for oil, natty gas, coal, fossil fuels in general)
Invest Invest Invest ( as much alt energy as possible)

[palo god]

I picked all of them except the last one.

[Helgeran]

I picked all of them except the last one.
I'd steal the sign in your sig just so I could bask in the irony of it all.

[Uzik]

Change!!!

[EAZYmfE]

Change!!!

chenge!

[Teutates]

Nuclear power is the future!



My OPINION matters more than yours.

[Barbarossa]

Actually, it would be closer to strip mining than drilling for oil shale, which would be a huge waste of time and a total act of desperation in my opinion, considering the low yield of usable oil per ton of shale.

[Fluffington]

Moar Pouwa!

[Spart]

I voted for everything the greenies wern't pushing. Basically, I just really hate the idiots who know shit about anything but want to cry about how we are hurting "mother Earth".

[Kebek]

I voted for everything the greenies wern't pushing. Basically, I just really hate the idiots who know shit about anything but want to cry about how we are hurting "mother Earth".

Hurt the earth or not, the oil's gonna run out some day...

[Desperado[1G]]

Hurt the earth or not, the oil's gonna run out some day...

I was not aware of this

[Kebek]

I was not aware of this

:eek: Was just reminding him there are other motives for developing alternative fuels, didn't know I would be bringing new acts!

[Paganini]

Nukes ftw

[Mippoose]

Drill everywhere but here.

Make sure we are the last country with large oil reserves.

Then sell it all for super high prices.

Fucking dumb-asses.

[Kraven]

I'm with pelosi since shes obviously a general for the change brigade.

I'd rather have dollars than change...

[Deja vu]

I voted for all of them other than the last...

[Paralda]

Um, drilling period won't help. Honestly, we just need to dedicate a lot of time and money to new sources of energy, or we're screwed.

[Deja vu]

should of added Wind power as well.

[Haldred]

Um, drilling period won't help. Honestly, we just need to dedicate a lot of time and money to new sources of energy, or we're screwed.

:bang: :bang: :bang: liberal :bang: :bang: :bang:
How will it not help?! ffs.
Dollar goes up, gas goes down, food goes down. And with some of the profits or with government aid we freaking invest in future alternative fuels like nuclear and hydro;solar;wind etc. How is that not a sound economical, and energy policy?!
EDIT
Also increase our refining capacity

[KylePwnage]

nuclear power ftw!

[Foodfreak18]

Are we talking about car-fuel? Or energy in general?

I choose Wind Energy. If we can put wind devices from Iowa to Texas, enough power would be produced to supply the entire U.S. (it might have even been the world) Building those towers would cost less than any other plan we have today for the Energy Crisis. The Wind Towers produce absolutly no harmful chemicals and the energy produced is 10x as powerful as gasoline. I can't think of a single negative of Wind Energy except for maintenance cost.

History Channel ftw. :cool:

[Kekshorts]

Also increase our refining capacity
refining capacity is our main problem, having more crude oil doesn't matter if we can only pump out so much refined fuel at a time.

[Foodfreak18]

:bang: :bang: :bang: liberal :bang: :bang: :bang:
How will it not help?! ffs.
Dollar goes up, gas goes down, food goes down. And with some of the profits or with government aid we freaking invest in future alternative fuels like nuclear and hydro;solar;wind etc. How is that not a sound economical, and energy policy?!
EDIT
Also increase our refining capacity

Sorry Haldred, but he's right.

Drilling Offshore is only a short term solution, and I mean short. It will drop gas prices for a while but when that starts running out, prices will skyrocket like never before (because by the time it does run out, the Middle East will be dry). Offshore drilling is bad for oceans as well, so while we destroy the environment on land, we'll do it at sea as well. And if one of those babies leaked, good lord, an area the size of Rhode Island would be one black puddle.

What the U.S. needs to do is cut off our dependency on refined oil, period. Cars that don't use standard oil, and investment in other energy sources (Ethanol is a no no, far too expensive, I suggest Wind Energy, easy, cheap, and 10x as powerful as Gasoline).

[Arintyll]

:bang: :bang: :bang: liberal :bang: :bang: :bang:
How will it not help?! ffs.
Dollar goes up, gas goes down, food goes down. And with some of the profits or with government aid we freaking invest in future alternative fuels like nuclear and hydro;solar;wind etc. How is that not a sound economical, and energy policy?!
EDIT
Also increase our refining capacity

Your sig "Fight the power" lol

How can you fight the power when you troll for them by call someone a Lib for saying drilling won't fix the problem.

Some of the profits or gummymint aid we invest??? Lauaghable. The oil co's have been posting record profits for how many quarters in a row and you think we need MOAR OIL to have the money to fix the issues? The Oil co's are not going to come out with a single workable plan to move to another energy system till they have milked every last red cent they can from the oil gig and they have a workable plan to make at least as much off the new system once its announced. (read this to say government subsidies so they don't have to spend their windfall profits)

So yeah give em more time to rape the people of the world with oil for lube before they stick it to us without.

[Desperado[1G]]

Sorry Haldred, but he's right.

Drilling Offshore is only a short term solution, and I mean short. It will drop gas prices for a while but when that starts running out, prices will skyrocket like never before (because by the time it does run out, the Middle East will be dry). Offshore drilling is bad for oceans as well, so while we destroy the environment on land, we'll do it at sea as well. And if one of those babies leaked, good lord, an area the size of Rhode Island would be one black puddle.

What the U.S. needs to do is cut off our dependency on refined oil, period. Cars that don't use standard oil, and investment in other energy sources (Ethanol is a no no, far too expensive, I suggest Wind Energy, easy, cheap, and 10x as powerful as Gasoline).

This isn't something you can quit cold turkey. Cutting the legs out from under us is not the solution. How long do you think it's going to take to get every vehicle and building converted to a more available energy source?

Just saying, I'd like to cut all ties from the shithole that is the middle east too, but I don't think I'm willing to live in a cave for 10 years to do it.

[escarondito]

so here is the question who here is for what

(the hydrogen car thing they can use the powerplants that need to run 24/7 to produce hydrogen at night when the power drain is low so they dont waist power. + the hydrogen i am talking about would by a hydrogen fuel cell not an internal combustion)

lol at the pelosi option none of the above...hahahahaha god our government is so selfserving

[Desperado[1G]]

With some of the comments she's made, I'm surprised Pelosi hasn't been shot yet

[Foodfreak18]

;1520742']Cutting the legs out from under us isn't going to help anything. How long do you think it's going to take to get every vehicle and building converted to a more available energy source?

Just saying, I'd like to cut all ties from the shithole that is the middle east too, but I don't think I'm willing to live in a cave for 10 years to do it.

Oh well of course not. I'm not saying stop all consumption of oil tomorrow, no no no, that's a horrible idea. But a good deal of our greenhouse emissions and oil use come from factories. It'll take time to convert them yes but when it comes to our very survival it's necessary. Imagine if we started changing to Wind Energy 30 years ago how different things would be now?

The only way to decrease car oil use is for car companies to continue to pump out electric cars (I just saw a really nice sports car electric car, so it's coming along) and for consumers to keep being fed up with gas prices enough to buy them. A little government backing wouldn't be that bad either, I've always wondered how effective it would be if the governemtn gave a sizable Income Tax Deduction for purchasing/owning/using electric cars all the time.

Also, there is a common misconception that the oil of our planet is "running out", that's not true. Easy-to-get oil is running out, but there is still enough left deep, deep underground to last the next 100 years or so. It's just that in order to get it, it will cost an arm and a leg more.

[Feyrband]

Drilling Pelosi

[Milo Hobgoblin]

Um, drilling period won't help. Honestly, we just need to dedicate a lot of time and money to new sources of energy, or we're screwed.

Problem is.. whose time and money? Yours?

Because most of us are alreayd getting raped and would like to see the technology we have ALREADY invested our tax dollars put to work.

[Baenor]

Majority of the world should go nuclear. But we'll have to change from that some day too. There'll either become too much waste or something else.

Places with geothermal hotspots should go Geothermal, as it is produces no waste in comparison.

eg. Down Under

[palo god]

Majority of the world should go nuclear. But we'll have to change from that some day too. There'll either become too much waste or something else.

Places with geothermal hotspots should go Geothermal, as it is produces no waste in comparison.

eg. Down Under

They are making new nuclear power technology that produces almost no waste.

[Fluffington]

They are making new nuclear power technology that produces almost no waste.

Not that it matters, if they can save money by keeping waste they will. One of the byproducts of capitalism is nuclear orphanages.

[Lord Caim]

I voted nuclear, hydrogen, and drilling in Anwar.

Nuclear is actually a really great source of renewable energy. It has potential to be dangerous, but it's gotten to become so much of a science it's hard to mess it up.

Hydrogen is becoming ever popular and I can see it having a place as a solid source of energy for machinery.

And I think drilling in Anwar would be best to drill if anywhere. Drilling off shore is pretty dangerous for workers and for the rigs. Plus Anwar is a tundra, and nothing lives there. I think it's best to start moving away from oil, but I don't think that can be done at the drop of a hat. So it's best to explore new tech, but keep a reserve as it fades out until there's no more dependancy.

[Vanno]

I voted nuclear, hydrogen, and drilling in Anwar.

Nuclear is actually a really great source of renewable energy. It has potential to be dangerous, but it's gotten to become so much of a science it's hard to mess it up.

Hydrogen is becoming ever popular and I can see it having a place as a solid source of energy for machinery.

And I think drilling in Anwar would be best to drill if anywhere. Drilling off shore is pretty dangerous for workers and for the rigs. Plus Anwar is a tundra, and nothing lives there. I think it's best to start moving away from oil, but I don't think that can be done at the drop of a hat. So it's best to explore new tech, but keep a reserve as it fades out until there's no more dependancy.

Yes, but of all the oil drilling places, ANWAR has the least amount of oil. ANWAR would be a waste of time in my opinion, but there is no reason to put it off limits, in case some enterprising individual has another opinion.

[Foodfreak18]

...but it's gotten to become so much of a science it's hard to mess it up.


Said the Chernobyl operator....

[Fluffington]

I voted nuclear, hydrogen, and drilling in Anwar.

Nuclear is actually a really great source of renewable energy. It has potential to be dangerous, but it's gotten to become so much of a science it's hard to mess it up.

Hydrogen is becoming ever popular and I can see it having a place as a solid source of energy for machinery.

And I think drilling in Anwar would be best to drill if anywhere. Drilling off shore is pretty dangerous for workers and for the rigs. Plus Anwar is a tundra, and nothing lives there. I think it's best to start moving away from oil, but I don't think that can be done at the drop of a hat. So it's best to explore new tech, but keep a reserve as it fades out until there's no more dependancy.

Nuclear is not renewable.

Hydrogen is not used as a source of power, just fuel.

Oil is awesome, we use it to make plastic!

[Paganini]

Said the Chernobyl operator....

The Soviets in 1986 had troubles keeping their light bulbs working

[Foodfreak18]

The Soviets in 1986 had troubles keeping their light bulbs working

And Americans in 2008 can barely find the remote control :(

[Baenor]

They are making new nuclear power technology that produces almost no waste.

How does it work?

They can't just put the broken atoms back together as that would consume the energy they got out of it.

Do you have a link or something?

[Weeking]

I vote all except none of the above.
Hydrogen run cars would be could for the air-quality, and make it harder for arsonists to do their thing if access to petrol is less convenient. They'll blow stuff up with hydrogen tanks instead and that is more fun to watch on the news.

[Spikey]

Just take over the middle east and drain their resources.

[pookums]

Sterilise every human on the planet. Problem solved.

[Gaal]

Nukeler!!!!

[Kietharr]

Sterilise every human on the planet. Problem solved.

Ok, you first.

[Teutates]

How does it work?

They can't just put the broken atoms back together as that would consume the energy they got out of it.

Do you have a link or something?

Nuclear Fusion, just like the sun does.









My OPINION matters more than yours.

[Entreri]

Yah, nuclear is definitely the way to go. In the U.S. we had a ton of new regulations added ever since the Three Mile Island accident. The funny part about it is, not one person died or even was harmed.

So you should wait until lots of people die before you do anything? Sorry just found that funny.

Back on topic, I think it was just like less than 2 years ago they opened up much more of the gulf of mexico for drilling. In like 5+ years we should see that start to hit the market. Maybe it was all the gulf of mexico, I'm not sure.

I'll say this, the oil industry lobbyists are doing a great job, maybe it just the extra $ that they have to throw at the problem.

[Baenor]

Nuclear Fusion, just like the sun does.









My OPINION matters more than yours.

That still produces waste.

[Leonon]

That still produces waste./e looks at his balloon

But I like helium...

[Feyrband]

Sterilise every human on the planet. Problem solved.

children of men, good movie.

[Baenor]

/e looks at his balloon

But I like helium...

I was thinking Tritium... but I guess its a lot less dangerous than fission.

[Paganini]

So you should wait until lots of people die before you do anything? Sorry just found that funny.



Yeah because people definitely don't die in coal mining accidents or on oil platforms :bang:

[Traep]

Your polls are about ridiculous. They're set up so that the only results you get will be results that you agree with. Why even bother at that point? If you really wanted to know where people stand then you wouldn't put so much political spin into every description.

It's like trying to find out how many people like the same beer as you and making the options:

1) My beer
2) Cow piss
3) You're a pussy

What do you think the result is going to be?

[Teutates]

That still produces waste.
It produces almost no waste.



I was thinking Tritium... but I guess its a lot less dangerous than fission.
ermm tritium aint the waste, it's the fuel for nuclear fusion.

[Killuminati]

So you should wait until lots of people die before you do anything? Sorry just found that funny.


The regulations were introduced after the accident even though there weren't any deaths. This caused nuclear energy growth to come to an immediate halt. Almost no new plants were even built because of this, but I guess nanny state lovers such as yourself are the ones with impeccable logic. This was all done even though nuclear energy is incredibly safe. I'd find it hard to argue that it isn't safer than offshore drilling, and coal mining.

http://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collections/fact-sheets/3mile-isle.html

The accident at the Three Mile Island Unit 2 (TMI-2) nuclear power plant near Middletown, Pennsylvania, on March 28, 1979, was the most serious in U.S. commercial nuclear power plant operating history(1), even though it led to no deaths or injuries to plant workers or members of the nearby community. But it brought about sweeping changes involving emergency response planning, reactor operator training, human factors engineering, radiation protection, and many other areas of nuclear power plant operations. It also caused the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission to tighten and heighten its regulatory oversight. Resultant changes in the nuclear power industry and at the NRC had the effect of enhancing safety.