Religion: Another Right Bites the Dust [Archive]

Titus Ultor

08-01-2008, 08:02 AM

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=us-agents-can-seize-trave

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. federal agents have been given new powers to seize travelers' laptops and other electronic devices at the border and hold then for unspecified periods the Washington Post reported on Friday.

Under recently disclosed Department of Homeland Security policies, such seizures may be carried out without suspicion of wrongdoing, the newspaper said, quoting policies issued on July 16 by two DHS agencies.

Agents are empowered to share the contents of seized computers with other agencies and private entities for data decryption and other reasons, the newspaper said.

DHS officials said the policies applied to anyone entering the country, including U.S. citizens, and were needed to prevent terrorism.

The measures have long been in place but were only disclosed in July, under pressure from civil liberties and business travel groups acting on reports that increasing numbers of international travelers had had their laptops, cellphones and other digital devices removed and examined.

The policies cover hard drives, flash drives, cell phones, iPods, pagers, beepers, and video and audio tapes -- as well as books, pamphlets and other written materials, the report said.

The policies require federal agents to take measures to protect business information and attorney-client privileged material. They stipulate that any copies of the data must be destroyed when a review is completed and no probable cause exists to keep the information.

Awwww.. shucks.

P.S. First thread I've ever started on Forumfall. <3 guys.

Lethn

08-01-2008, 08:16 AM

That is absolute bullshit, they're going to end up destroying terabytes of worthless and highly important or confidential information, if this is legit and really is going ahead then I was right about the bloody FBI, they're nothing more than a bunch of thugs and terrorists in disguise.

Carnivo

08-01-2008, 08:33 AM

What the fuck happened to America...

armyof1k

08-01-2008, 08:36 AM

what the fuck happend to america?

Dreadknought

08-01-2008, 08:43 AM

Jesus they could of atleast changed it so it only applies to foreigners. How the fuck am I suppose to pass time on a airplane now.

Carnivo

08-01-2008, 08:45 AM

Jesus they could of atleast changed it so it only applies to foreigners. How the fuck am I suppose to pass time on a airplane now.
Be a patriot! Join the military!!!

Lethn

08-01-2008, 08:47 AM

Quite frankly I'd rather be in a private security company, at least I'd get better pay.

alhazred

08-01-2008, 08:48 AM

okay now we need to get the right to bear arms back in california because i need to protect my rights

((and i want my ar 15 with the 50bmg + 30 round magazine conversion))

Staatsschutz

08-01-2008, 08:51 AM

if its true its sad

Dreadknought

08-01-2008, 08:53 AM

Quite frankly I'd rather be in a private security company, at least I'd get better pay.

Meh but then you don't get the benfits of the military either. Plus contractors don't actually engage in the warfare.

Paganini

08-01-2008, 08:54 AM

I was in a good mood before I clicked this thread.

Fuck you.

Dreadknought

08-01-2008, 08:57 AM

I was in a good mood before I clicked this thread.

Fuck you.

Thats the point of Forumfall.

Ungraylessness

08-01-2008, 09:00 AM

I feel safe?

iza

08-01-2008, 09:03 AM

Well shit if they try to take my laptop when I'm crossin the border to the US, I'm fuckin turning around headin back the other way.

Behhemoth

08-01-2008, 09:07 AM

Fuck America, I am moving to Canada.

Spart

08-01-2008, 09:09 AM

Aww, I really wanted to visit America one day.

Dreadknought

08-01-2008, 09:13 AM

Fuck America, I am moving to Canada.

Meh I'd agree with you there if Canadia wasn't so liberalised.

Xtra-Medium

08-01-2008, 09:13 AM

that would suck if u didn't know about this an they seized your laptop wit a buncha torrent dl on it lol

Dreadknought

08-01-2008, 09:16 AM

that would suck if u didn't know about this an they seized your laptop wit a buncha torrent dl on it lol

Oh shit I gotta start censoring my shit when I go to Thailand.....

Titus Ultor

08-01-2008, 09:18 AM

Yeah, this is one of the few fucked up violations of civil rights that actually worries me. I usually think "hey, the court system will fix it!", and usually I'm right..

But this has been going on SECRETLY for years, and only due to intense pressure from victims of this shit do we even know about it at all. I've heard about it happening, but I had no idea it was this widespread, much less official policy.

Behhemoth

08-01-2008, 09:19 AM

Meh I'd agree with you there if Canadia wasn't so liberalised.

Mexico it is.

Dreadknought

08-01-2008, 09:26 AM

Mexico it is.

Ya whores only cost $1 there.

NewRage

08-01-2008, 09:43 AM

P.S. First thread I've ever started on Forumfall. <3 guys.

Oh (http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=35957) really? (http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=42209)

Mippoose

08-01-2008, 09:44 AM

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=us-agents-can-seize-trave

Awwww.. shucks.

P.S. First thread I've ever started on Forumfall. <3 guys.

Fuckin cocks.

I bet adobe paid them to do it.

Poor guys have like 0 profit from software.

Maize

08-01-2008, 09:54 AM

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=us-agents-can-seize-trave

Awwww.. shucks.

P.S. First thread I've ever started on Forumfall. <3 guys.

Canadia it is, boys.

Dreadknought

08-01-2008, 09:56 AM

Canadia it is, boys.

Canadas too liberal man (blame the French Fries), I suggest Mexico because they don't beleive in condoms and most girls get pregnant at 13.

Apex Vertigo

08-01-2008, 10:03 AM

Fuck America, I am moving to Canada.

Not with your laptop, phone, or iPod you aren't.

Mippoose

08-01-2008, 10:06 AM

Not with your laptop, phone, or iPod you aren't.

As long as he doesn't come back he's fine.

Dreadknought

08-01-2008, 10:08 AM

As long as he doesn't come back he's fine.

Hmm you just gave me a new idea. I think I'll get a job at the airport now so I can "collect" these electronics.

Spades Felligan

08-01-2008, 10:08 AM

Mippoose

08-01-2008, 10:09 AM

Hmm you just gave me a new idea. I think I'll get a job at the airport now so I can "collect" these electronics.

I'd just lock up every 4chan *** I find that has a jb folder.

Dreadknought

08-01-2008, 10:09 AM

What's funny is that government is doing the terrorists' job in keeping people terrified.

Winning the war on terror is actually quite easy. Stop being scared, just stop thinking about it. But it seems the government doesn't want us to.

Ya it is easy, nuclear storm ftw!

Apex Vertigo

08-01-2008, 10:11 AM

As long as he doesn't come back he's fine.

Oh I didn't see that it specified entering the country.

"To stop terrorism" is the new "Because we can."

Unconstitutional? Too bad, they just fuckin' did!

palo god

08-01-2008, 10:12 AM

What the fuck happened to America...

The neo cons and liberals.

Porthios

08-01-2008, 10:12 AM

Well, I'd say probable cause has been part of US law for a long time.

Mippoose

08-01-2008, 10:12 AM

Oh I didn't see that it specified entering the country.

"To stop terrorism" is the new "Because we can."

Unconstitutional? Too bad, they just fuckin' did!

Fuckin' terrosrists rooning my country!

Dreadknought

08-01-2008, 10:13 AM

Well, I'd say probable cause has been part of US law for a long time.

This country has been getting worser since the hippies.

Porthios

08-01-2008, 10:21 AM

This country has been getting worser since the hippies.
The USA. Brought to you by hippies. Destroyed by hippies. Wait...

Dreadknought

08-01-2008, 10:23 AM

The USA. Brought to you by homos who wore wigs. Destroyed by hippies. Wait...

corrected

Arkh

08-01-2008, 10:40 AM

Full harddrive encryption, different honeypot encrypted files (mostly porn and faked data), let the bastards waste their time on a corporate laptop. While the real one got to your destination by UPS.
If a lot of people was doing that, we could DoS all these "agencies".

Mippoose

08-01-2008, 10:41 AM

corrected

Are you like 11 or smething?

losinglife

08-01-2008, 12:05 PM

old news, they jacked some recording artists music at the border a year or so ago without telling him why.

TheHardProblem

08-01-2008, 12:25 PM

So basicly this means that if you don't give the authorities any reasonable amount of suspicion you're OK. Next to that, enduring possesion of your electronic goods can also be greatly benefited if you don't: act like a goof, have some sort of criminal record or are champion in seeking out wrong moments in the wrong places. If you can avoid all previously mentioned, you're good to go!

losinglife

08-01-2008, 12:30 PM

except no...

Spinewire

08-01-2008, 12:31 PM

Meh but then you don't get the benfits of the military either. Plus contractors don't actually engage in the warfare.
I get to dress up and play soldier? Get to have guns and get paid more money? Yet don't have to fight anyone?

Fucking sign me up...

Weeking

08-01-2008, 12:35 PM

So what's the idea: steal their passwords?

I'm never going to move to USA if they wont let me emigrate again with my computer. It's almost as bad closing the borders to emigration.

Spart

08-01-2008, 01:38 PM

I get to dress up and play soldier? Get to have guns and get paid more money? Yet don't have to fight anyone?

Fucking sign me up...

Haha, sounds like the perfect job right.

Dreadknought

08-01-2008, 06:58 PM

Are you like 11 or smething?

Whered you get that idea? I was just making a joke.

Floyd

08-01-2008, 07:07 PM

Fuck America, I am moving to Canada.

Don't ride the Greyhound bus.

Capricious

08-01-2008, 07:13 PM

Good thing I just jizzed on my laptop keys. Take that, fed agents.

Ragnika

08-01-2008, 07:14 PM

Dreadknought

08-01-2008, 07:20 PM

Good thing I just jizzed on my laptop keys. Take that, fed agents.

ROFL that gives me a great idea. The day before you go to the airport you a higher a really cheap hookers and get as much of her pussy juice in a bottle as you can. Then right before you hand your laptop to the feds you spray the stuff all over it.

Jangang

08-01-2008, 07:25 PM

Old news, but its still BS...

People just need to ship their electronics over the border to spite the fuckers.

dirtknap

08-01-2008, 08:03 PM

America has become worse than any communist country ever was. It has become the opposite of what it claims to stand for.

America stands for fear, not freedom.

Dreadknought

08-01-2008, 08:06 PM

America has become worse than any communist country ever was. It has become the opposite of what it claims to stand for.

America stands for fear, not freedom.

I just wish the libertarians would actually stop being lazy and do something about it.

Killuminati

08-01-2008, 08:11 PM

I just wish the libertarians would actually stop being lazy and do something about it.

I like being a spectator.

Dreadknought

08-01-2008, 08:11 PM

I like being a spectator.

I have to admit it is great entertainment.

Mippoose

08-01-2008, 08:11 PM

Whered you get that idea? I was just making a joke.

I can smell it.

Dreadknought

08-01-2008, 08:12 PM

I can smell it.

What? My peanut butter tasting sweat?

Helgeran

08-01-2008, 08:12 PM

What are they hoping to find? Shitloads of mexican wrestling porn?

Helgeran

08-01-2008, 08:13 PM

I just wish the libertarians would actually stop being lazy and do something about it.
The irony of this statement almost broke by brain.

Mippoose

08-01-2008, 08:14 PM

What? My peanut butter tasting sweat?

Yuck.

Dreadknought

08-01-2008, 08:14 PM

What are they hoping to find? Shitloads of mexican wrestling porn?

You didn't read the full thread did you?:sly: Because if you did then you'd realise were not on topic anymore, so GTFO! :sly:

Dreadknought

08-01-2008, 08:15 PM

Yuck.

Its sticky too.

dirtknap

08-01-2008, 08:15 PM

I just wish the libertarians would actually stop being lazy and do something about it.

i thought they were, his name is Obama?

Dreadknought

08-01-2008, 08:16 PM

i thought they were, his name is Obama?

Thats liberals. Libertarians are the opposite.

Phaethor

08-01-2008, 08:34 PM

Meh but then you don't get the benfits of the military either. Plus contractors don't actually engage in the warfare.

Blackwater :sly:

Best,

Phae

Dreadknought

08-01-2008, 08:35 PM

Blackwater :sly:

Best,

Phae

/agree atleast they get a little bit of combat.

heroshade

08-01-2008, 08:51 PM

Since this is a forum and I can't be seen as a pussy when I don't show up, WE SHOULD MARCH ON WASHINGTON! BRING YOUR BEST GEAR AND PREPARE FOR FULL LEWT.

Dreadknought

08-01-2008, 08:53 PM

Since this is a forum and I can't be seen as a pussy when I don't show up, WE SHOULD MARCH ON WASHINGTON! BRING YOUR BEST GEAR AND PREPARE FOR FULL LEWT.

I've been thinking of becoming a human bomb and blowing up the congress. A nuke strapped to my testes should do it.

heroshade

08-01-2008, 08:56 PM

I've been thinking of becoming a human bomb and blowing up the congress. A nuke strapped to my testes should do it.

I was typing something and then I deleted all of it because If the FBI saw it they would assume I was a terrorist and come shoot my nutz off.

Kebek

08-01-2008, 09:03 PM

Land of the free...

jonyak

08-01-2008, 09:05 PM

Land of the free...

home of the chickenshits.

escarondito

08-01-2008, 09:11 PM

home of the chickenshits.

this shit is getting out of control time to start rallying up the people for marches on washington

Killuminati

08-01-2008, 09:21 PM

i thought they were, his name is Obama?

Fail is fail

Kietharr

08-01-2008, 09:39 PM

Fuck, I'll have to nuke my CP folder every time I go to Canada :(

Durindana

08-01-2008, 09:47 PM

/agree atleast they get a little bit of combat.

shooting civilians isn't combat

dirtknap

08-01-2008, 10:00 PM

Fail is fail

dude the meme is:

<adjective> <noun> is <adjective>

so, ironically, your fail response is fail.

Capricious

08-01-2008, 10:02 PM

dude the meme is:

<adjective> <noun> is <adjective>

so, ironically, your fail response is fail.

fail is either a verb or a noun, so "ironically", you just failed.

dirtknap

08-01-2008, 10:25 PM

fail is either a verb or a noun, so "ironically", you just failed.

except in that meme is it used as an adjective. as in, your response was fail. that's an adjective.

Capricious

08-01-2008, 10:35 PM

except in that meme is it used as an adjective. as in, your response was fail. that's an adjective.

fail is not an adjective. anyone who uses fail as an adjective is inbred.

Kietharr

08-01-2008, 10:37 PM

dude the meme is:

<adjective> <noun> is <adjective>

so, ironically, your fail response is fail.

I think he's just expressing his dislike ancient 4chan / /b/ terminology as now it's mainstream and horribly gay. Epic, Fail, Newfag, Win, lulz, all fucking ruined terms as far as I'm concerned. wat still has potential but I'm seeing more and more people taking my favorite one word response ever and running away with it in GD just to pump their postcounts.

wat is in reality a highly well thought out response to any bad post.

HorrorHotel

08-01-2008, 11:08 PM

except in that meme is it used as an adjective. as in, your response was fail. that's an adjective.

No, that's a predicate noun.

Xianin

08-02-2008, 09:50 AM

I think he's just expressing his dislike ancient 4chan / /b/ terminology as now it's mainstream and horribly gay. Epic, Fail, Newfag, Win, lulz, all fucking ruined terms as far as I'm concerned. wat still has potential but I'm seeing more and more people taking my favorite one word response ever and running away with it in GD just to pump their postcounts.

wat is in reality a highly well thought out response to any bad post.

lol, I didn't even know wat was popular here. A good one though