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alfaroverall
07-14-2008, 08:42 PM
This game isn't exactly recent (it released in 2006) but it's a pretty interesting game.

It's an RTS, and in some ways you could say it's StarCraft meets Command & Conquer meets WarCraft 3 meets Rise of Nations (to which it is a sequel of sorts) meets a small amount of new concepts. I was going to write up a detailed list of the similarities, but it got long as hell (especially for Rise of Nations) so I'll just answer any specific questions that people have. Some fairly basic things:

3 distinct races as in StarCraft. The theme is basically "technology meets magic"; the Vinci have machines reminiscent of those designed by Leonardo da Vinci, the Alin have magic reminiscent of the Arabian Nights stories, and the Cuotl are sort of loosely based on the gods of the Aztecs, Mayans, and Incas.
2 resources. Timonium, with pre-designated deposits on the map where mines and miners can be built, wealth for the Vinci and Alin which is acquired by building caravans and sending them between your cities (more on the cities in a moment), and energy for the Cuotl, created by building Reactor Districts in your cities.
Ground and air units, though most units hit both.
There are hero units with special abilities, like burst damage, healing, buffs, mind control, etc.
Cities are at the heart of the game's design. To start you have one, which you can build up with districts, to various effects (increasing the maximum rate at which you can gain resources, the number of units that you can have, among other things). These are the main way that you push out your national borders, and you can only build buildings within those borders (though the Alin can pay extra to build outside their borders). There are neutral city sites with a small amount of defense on the map that you can capture; these are about the closest equivalent to "expansions" in the game.


There's obviously a lot more to say, and it makes a lot more sense once you play it, but that's a start.

Anyway, my reasoning for posting this thread was to see if anyone played and wanted to give the multiplayer a shot. I've only played the campaign (I've done the first campaign and about half of the second on moderate difficulty so far). So: does anyone play this game?

If I get a resounding "no", let this thread be converted to a thread about Rise of Nations, which I think is a bit more popular and is at least partially related to Rise of Legends.

jonyak
07-14-2008, 08:43 PM
I played it and found it boreing.

Dredgon
07-14-2008, 08:44 PM
I played it and found it boreing.

+1*2 = your momas bubs

Atnas
07-14-2008, 08:53 PM
I played it and even though I found the races a bit cool, the gameplay sucked.

Haldred
07-14-2008, 08:55 PM
Play the original RoN save yourself.

alfaroverall
07-14-2008, 09:01 PM
I think my main issue with the gameplay is that it's too slow, and unfortunately there isn't a way to speed it up. Any of you care to cite a specific gripe with the game?

As for RoN: I'm a sucker for RTS games where the differences between the factions are large, and RoN intentionally does not have that. The other problem I had with RoN is that it seems like it mostly just goes to a standstill until the Information Age and then declines into either a nukefest (most common) or a zergfest (once someone gets the supercollider and can instantly put out units).

GFH_Spike
07-14-2008, 09:27 PM
I think my main issue with the gameplay is that it's too slow, and unfortunately there isn't a way to speed it up. Any of you care to cite a specific gripe with the game?

As for RoN: I'm a sucker for RTS games where the differences between the factions are large, and RoN intentionally does not have that. The other problem I had with RoN is that it seems like it mostly just goes to a standstill until the Information Age and then declines into either a nukefest (most common) or a zergfest (once someone gets the supercollider and can instantly put out units).

You can prevent access to the Information Age. No nukefests or supercollider zergs.

alfaroverall
07-14-2008, 09:38 PM
You can prevent access to the Information Age. No nukefests or supercollider zergs.
True, but does anyone actually want to play the game with an Information Age block (and still keep the Modern Age as well)? That is the question. I kinda doubt they would; people who would want to restrict the ages are usually looking for quicker games, and so would limit the game to, say, the Medieval Age. Maybe I'm wrong though; I only played maybe 5 or 6 multiplayer matches.

I also forgot to mention rushes, though those are nowhere near as effective as they are in, say, StarCraft, due to the fact that citizens can wall up in cities or towers and slowly whittle down your forces.

Also, putting in even that Age restriction gimps some of the nations, because some of them have Information Age unique units.

Mulambo
07-14-2008, 09:45 PM
blah blah blah, I'm a sucker for RTS games w/ racial differences.

Try Company of Heroes. 40 bucks on steam with the expansion (if you swing that way) and the factions have significant differences. You could probably download a demo and try it out first, if you wanted.

Haldred
07-14-2008, 10:05 PM
True, but does anyone actually want to play the game with an Information Age block (and still keep the Modern Age as well)? That is the question. I kinda doubt they would; people who would want to restrict the ages are usually looking for quicker games, and so would limit the game to, say, the Medieval Age. Maybe I'm wrong though; I only played maybe 5 or 6 multiplayer matches.

I also forgot to mention rushes, though those are nowhere near as effective as they are in, say, StarCraft, due to the fact that citizens can wall up in cities or towers and slowly whittle down your forces.

Also, putting in even that Age restriction gimps some of the nations, because some of them have Information Age unique units.

I play to the enlightenment age, set up different type of games, Euro vs. West West vs middle east Euro vs. Middle east, Asia vs. West etc. it gets interesting without all the nukes and WMD. always turns into an interesting fight on medium to hard difficulty. and occasionally do the same in the WW1 setting (industrial age) that is interesting as well.
Modern warfare is just to complicated for me I guess, and if I do play it, I usually super collider zerg anyway.

Death's Chill
07-14-2008, 10:32 PM
I have it. I bought the game, installed it, played the campaign, thought it was fun, tried to go online, and I couldn't connect to the patch servers. Did they bring em back online?

Incanam
07-15-2008, 12:01 AM
RoN was/is a great game.

And if RoL was more futurstic, I'd play it. Right now it's kind of like...What?

Haldred
07-15-2008, 12:06 AM
I still have RoN and the expansion packs as well, I'll seed ;) if only for you guys.

alfaroverall
07-15-2008, 12:26 AM
I still have RoN and the expansion packs as well, I'll seed ;) if only for you guys.
I never got any expansions for RoN, I should probably do that. I liked the description of the Lakota.
I have it. I bought the game, installed it, played the campaign, thought it was fun, tried to go online, and I couldn't connect to the patch servers. Did they bring em back online?
That's odd, I'm sure there's a manual way to download the patch though. When did you do this?

Paralda
07-15-2008, 12:31 AM
Sounds interesting, I may try it out.

Haldred
07-15-2008, 12:34 AM
Its definitely (not defiantly..ffs sorry side-rant) worth trying out, it will at least keep you busy for at least a few days maybe weeks, its something to play when you are bored anyway.

Death's Chill
07-15-2008, 03:49 AM
That's odd, I'm sure there's a manual way to download the patch though. When did you do this?

Yes, I had to torrent the patch files though, crazy enough... regardless, I tried to go online maybe a week and a half/two weeks ago? It kept saying it was unable to connect to the patch server. I downloaded the patches, but I got a torrented copy of the game to play with my friend over LAN, which didn't work as it kept disconnecting us. Very irritating.

And yes, I did buy the actual game, so it sucks not being able to play online. Maybe it's just the patch server that is down though...you can play online, right? As you already downloaded the patches I assume.