Linux Port?

[Athale]

I did recently change to use Ubuntu-Linux operating system and I am so much liking it that I won't change back to old, rather quit gaming if needed.

However my concern is that will Darkfall be playable with wine on linux since I belive that wine 1.0 will be out by then.

This would be really great because I just won't be using M$ winpain ever again on my computers...

[Unahim]

I have no idea, sorry!

[AmarSldstill]

That is not really the purview of the developers of Darkfall, if they wished to release a Linux version it would not go through a 3rd party program like Wine.

However, Wine is a versatile tool and very powerful. You should be able to get MOST games to work with it, though you may have to do some programming to work out some bugs on your end directly related to Wine.

Getting games, especially ones used by a niche group of consumers, to work on Linux is not going to be an easy process, but if you are dedicated to it and skilled enough, Linux and Wine are powerful enough for you to do it (in theory)

So in the end - Mostly likely yes, it will run. But no, it wont be easy to set up.

[Wedge]

And it won't be supported by Aventurine. Although you can probably get it running, Aventurine will never guarantee the product on Linux or offer any form of technical assistance with Linux based machines.

[spidey1170]

And it won't be supported by Aventurine. Although you can probably get it running, Aventurine will never guarantee the product on Linux or offer any form of technical assistance with Linux based machines.

Doh! I was just going to write a new topic asking this very question. I know that thousands (tens of thousands, perhaps?) play WoW, or played, simply because it ran well with WINE. This just might be an opportunity to step into a niche.

Darkfall could be a mediocre game like WoW, but, if it supports and develops a Linux client or even is just developed with OpenGL in mind, you can count at least 3 accounts from my home! Again, I don't think that I would be alone...

[CoNinja]

If the game is as popular as I think it might be with the promises being given out. I would say you will probably have a group of Penguins working on getting wine or parallels to make it work. With the right setup and a little tweaking, it should, at some point, work. If not, dual boot XP?

[Zachrates]

I don't suppose there's a point to asking this, but do you think there's *any* possibility that there will be a native linux port, or maybe the developers could consider doing this? I'm sure there's a million guys who would port it for free for them, too.

Anyway, I'm just tired of WiNE or using anything M$ lol ><. I dont want to have to go back to windows to play this game - because I will, because this game is definitely worth it. I just hope if not, wine can run it fine.

[iza]

Nope, no linux port planned. Yeah hopefully it'll run on wine..

[Zachrates]

Damn >< Yeah I hope it runs.

[Wedge]

Hahaha, I salute you for actually asking. Sorry for the typical response, I'd play it on Linux if I could too.

[Arkh]

Wine.
If M&B, HL2 can run on it, I'm sure DF will.

[Zachrates]

lol... they barely run. On windows I can get 120+ fps in HL2. On my linux box I can get 60 or so. It's playable, just Depending on how it's coded, it might be better or worse. Any worse, and it wont be playable, under duress it would get too slow.

[GRCPan]

There won't be a release for anything other than windows.

[GlacierFreeze]

lol... they barely run. On windows I can get 120+ fps in HL2. On my linux box I can get 60 or so. It's playable, just Depending on how it's coded, it might be better or worse. Any worse, and it wont be playable, under duress it would get too slow.

60 FPS is just as smooth as 120.... If not, then it's not an FPS issue. Hell, 45 is more than fine for most games.

[Zachrates]

60 FPS is just as smooth as 120.... If not, then it's not an FPS issue. Hell, 45 is more than fine for most games.

60fps under no duress, is ok. When you get into battle, it drops down, sorry I didn't make that clear.

Once you get passed 70-80fps your eyes can't tell anymore anyway, i know that, just ugh.

[iza]

Your eyes can theoretically differentiate between much higher fps; the problem is the refresh rate on monitors is typically 60Hz, so assuming the frames sync up right with the refresh rate, you can't actually show more than 60 FPS.

[Deja vu]

they wont even be making a Mac version...

[Bunkah]

Wine is for Whiners.. Windows is for Pros!

[Dazarthas]

they wont even be making a Mac version...

That's because Macs are carebear. :ninja:

[BoyScouT]

They said, no linux

[Zachrates]

That sucks. I guess I'll just keep my 80g with windows on it. In the meantime I'll be happy doing everything else in linux.

I'll test it with wine first, if not, then screw it.

I'm not sure why developers haven't noticed that the amount of people using linux, are growing. Eventually, there will be a big demand for this sort of thing, and they could ride out this revolution of sorts and profit from it.

Oh well.

[Xianin]

That sucks. I guess I'll just keep my 80g with windows on it. In the meantime I'll be happy doing everything else in linux.

I'll test it with wine first, if not, then screw it.

I'm not sure why developers haven't noticed that the amount of people using linux, are growing. Eventually, there will be a big demand for this sort of thing, and they could ride out this revolution of sorts and profit from it.

Oh well.

I doubt the amount of time and money required to develop a Linux client would actually be worth the results it could produce. Linux is growing, sure, but a lot of people that use it still have a Windows box anyway.

[Zachrates]

It's not like linux is some foreign alien technology. Most linux ports require nothing more than a different installation package. We can still use any of the programming or files.

The major difference is we use opengl, not directx. And DX is basically just opengl (I'm just generlizing). Like I can run Quake wars: enemy territory, or doom 3, or quake, or unreal tournament. All that's different is an installation package.

Also, there is no need to re-program or anything, on top of which, there is many, many companies, and groups who would eagerly port any game to linux, easily, freely, but it would require letting someone else look at the source code, which is the problem - not money. Companies are afraid to lose their game, or can't due to contracts with publishers.

Anyway, it's not worth it, you're right, for now. It will grow, and keep growing. All linux has left to do, is make games more compatible and then there will be virtually no reason to use windows anymore, and it's free - and has better, quicker, free support. But for now, there is not enough user base to provide revenue. Most people don't know they could probably get any Linux guru to port it for free, and would get thousands of subscriptions.

[Wedge]

It's not like linux is some foreign alien technology. Most linux ports require nothing more than a different installation package. We can still use any of the programming or files.

The major difference is we use opengl, not directx. And DX is basically just opengl (I'm just generlizing). Like I can run Quake wars: enemy territory, or doom 3, or quake, or unreal tournament. All that's different is an installation package.

Also, there is no need to re-program or anything, on top of which, there is many, many companies, and groups who would eagerly port any game to linux, easily, freely, but it would require letting someone else look at the source code, which is the problem - not money. Companies are afraid to lose their game, or can't due to contracts with publishers.

Anyway, it's not worth it, you're right, for now. It will grow, and keep growing. All linux has left to do, is make games more compatible and then there will be virtually no reason to use windows anymore, and it's free - and has better, quicker, free support. But for now, there is not enough user base to provide revenue. Most people don't know they could probably get any Linux guru to port it for free, and would get thousands of subscriptions.Making a game OpenGL compliant is a massive undertaking unless you plan for it from the start. It's way too late in development for that here. In the future I imagine you'll find more Linux-compliant games being made.... but that's the future, not today.

And I completely agree, Linux is better than Windows! It's a better foundation anyway. It just doesn't have the software to go with it.

[Zachrates]

Really? Hmm... maybe I've read it wrong. As far as I've heard, all video cards etc are open gl compatible and it's only a setting you switch, from d3d to opengl, since your card does all the rendering. Since windows would be the only thing going "Omgwtfbbq" since it's drivers would flip out, I heard it was simple.

Ah well, if it's really that difficult I could understand then.

I hate windows, not because I'm some linux elitist (Which I'm getting there >< lol) but because total crashes and losses of data etc due to windows is inumerable, and I've never lost a thing, or had any errors or crashes in linux thus far. It has bugs, yeah but not as much as windows by far, and who can beat free? lol.

[iza]

It's definitely not that simple. I'm not much of a programmer yet but I do know there's a lot more involved than flipping a switch. If the game was built on a cross-platform engine, then yeah it would be easy; but I believe the devs made their own graphics engine for DF, and all the DirectX stuff would be hard-coded into it.

[End Dream]

one thing is for certain.. aventuring will never release thier source code.. that would be fucking retarded

1. HAX would ruin the game
2. Funcom would steal teh code =(

[Arkh]

Really? Hmm... maybe I've read it wrong. As far as I've heard, all video cards etc are open gl compatible and it's only a setting you switch, from d3d to opengl, since your card does all the rendering. Since windows would be the only thing going "Omgwtfbbq" since it's drivers would flip out, I heard it was simple.

Ah well, if it's really that difficult I could understand then.

I hate windows, not because I'm some linux elitist (Which I'm getting there >< lol) but because total crashes and losses of data etc due to windows is inumerable, and I've never lost a thing, or had any errors or crashes in linux thus far. It has bugs, yeah but not as much as windows by far, and who can beat free? lol.
OpenGL and Direct3D are a lot different. But more important is the fact that Direct3D comes bundled in DirectX which means you have the same kind of thing for sound, inputs and network. When using openGL, you need to get libraries for these things.

[GlacierFreeze]

Really? Hmm... maybe I've read it wrong. As far as I've heard, all video cards etc are open gl compatible and it's only a setting you switch, from d3d to opengl, since your card does all the rendering. Since windows would be the only thing going "Omgwtfbbq" since it's drivers would flip out, I heard it was simple.

Ah well, if it's really that difficult I could understand then.

I hate windows, not because I'm some linux elitist (Which I'm getting there >< lol) but because total crashes and losses of data etc due to windows is inumerable, and I've never lost a thing, or had any errors or crashes in linux thus far. It has bugs, yeah but not as much as windows by far, and who can beat free? lol.

Man you're so "linux elitist" it's not even funny. All the system crashes and data losses wasn't Windows fault, it was all the viruses you got downloading gay porn. AVG would've saved you, homo noob.

I've never had any Windows problems, only a couple hardware failures.

[Baenor]

Man you're so "linux elitist" it's not even funny. All the system crashes and data losses wasn't Windows fault, it was all the viruses you got downloading gay porn. AVG would've saved you, homo noob.

I've never had any Windows problems, only a couple hardware failures.

Same here. People say windows sucks because of BSOD... but BSODs arent caused by windows, they're something windows does to protect your fucking computer.

It was the same with vista.. people said it was shit, but I never had any issues.

[claudiofm]

I doubt the amount of time and money required to develop a Linux client would actually be worth the results it could produce. Linux is growing, sure, but a lot of people that use it still have a Windows box anyway.

but that is because the houses of games we

"obligation"

using windows to play, because if the houses of games give option to use another system other than windows, secure windows, nowadays do not use 30% of the players who use them today because of that

"obligation" because of the game developers

[claudiofm]

Anyway, it's not worth it, you're right, for now. It will grow, and keep growing. All linux has left to do, is make games more compatible and then there will be virtually no reason to use windows anymore, and it's free - and has better, quicker, free support. But for now, there is not enough user base to provide revenue. Most people don't know they could probably get any Linux guru to port it for free, and would get thousands of subscriptions.

+1

[claudiofm]

And I completely agree, Linux is better than Windows! It's a better foundation anyway. It just doesn't have the software to go with it.

+1


but that is because as aventurine, no one thinks of Linux from the beginning and now is difficult and costly to have

if started when the game is to think about Linux as well, could have done is almost no cost

but the judgement is Aventurier, not a few linux, and there are many homes games who commit the same fault

I hope that at least make a test under wine1.0 wine and help to function properly under this program

you will?

[sickwookie]

Same here. People say windows sucks because of BSOD... but BSODs arent caused by windows, they're something windows does to protect your fucking computer.

It was the same with vista.. people said it was shit, but I never had any issues.

Wow you are actually defending the BSOD? You sound like an abused wife, "He only does it because he loves me."

I use both, and they both work well. So everything else being equal I will generally lean towards the free* os.

*Not only does linux cost nothing (free as in beer) it is also not completely covered with DRM (free as in speech).

[Zachrates]

Man you're so "linux elitist" it's not even funny. All the system crashes and data losses wasn't Windows fault, it was all the viruses you got downloading gay porn. AVG would've saved you, homo noob.

I've never had any Windows problems, only a couple hardware failures.

Spoken like a true computer n00b.

I'm sure windows vista, not letting me access my folders after a driver malfunction, on my other hardrive was MY fault. I couldn't even get to it on my linux box because windows decided to lock it down and only give access to it from other vista boxes.

How about XP not not noticing/having hard time with SATA and multiple SATA drives? This problem is STILL not fixed.

BSOD happens more than you think, if you don't buy the most amazing and popular hardware, you get shafted, ask anyone with soundblaster's or ati's. Look up anything on vista and you'll see at least half the people if not more ranting about how terrible it is. lest you're one of the lucky ones and happened to have the proper hardware.

XP is stable yeah, so what? I dont get viruses, or spyware, my computer is much more efficient and takes up a fraction of the resources.

DirectX is an abomination of programming. It was written because WINDOWS can not handle proper communication from software to hardware, thus why you need a driver for everything minus the simple shit every computer has. For you rinformation I can boot up and run Ubuntu in 10 minutes and it recognized every piece of hardware I had, and let me connect to the internet, all running from ram alone, unless I chose to install. Can windows do that? Didn't think so. Ever wonder why most servers are Linux based? Yeah thats because they rarely crash or have problems.

I used windows for many years, and loved it. Now it's a love hate relationship because I can't play the games I love very well on linux.

Also, viruses never got me, ever. All my problems were simple glitches that M$ never took time to fix, or dirty little tricks they install on their system so that you can't do anything they don't want you to do. Or driver malfunctions that cost me my windows install like my Audigy SE did.

I'm not an idiot, so don't jump the gun and think I'm just a download whore and wasn't careful. Further proving that most people are idiots, I never once used a virus scanner, and never had problems. If you use common sense, you wont have any problem. Lets not mention that there have been viruses and trojans specifically designed to use AV software itself to infect your computer. But hey, it's not really my problem.

I'm not a linux elitist as I said previously either. Linux has plenty of problems, but 99% of the problems wont make you lose your shit or ruin your install. And that means it's at least 99% better than windows for that alone. Also, I'd rather have problems in an OS I didn't pay for than a problem in an OS that costs $100. Anything windows can do (Minus games) Linux can do, if not better, and more efficiently. Most people just see linux as too foreign and dont take the time to learn how to make it that way.

So yeah, Linux isn't better, it's just free and has less bugs. Gaming is at least 75% of the reason I have a computer in the first place. So, without gaming UGH ><.

[Baenor]

Wow you are actually defending the BSOD? You sound like an abused wife, "He only does it because he loves me."

I use both, and they both work well. So everything else being equal I will generally lean towards the free* os.

*Not only does linux cost nothing (free as in beer) it is also not completely covered with DRM (free as in speech).

Well, I've never had a BSOD that wasn't solved by either, fixing hardware, or fixing third party software.
Using logic, I then resolve that BSODs are not Windows' fault.

[Everto]

dualbootkthx?

[lawlerz]

Spoken like a true computer n00b.

I'm sure windows vista, not letting me access my folders after a driver malfunction, on my other hardrive was MY fault. I couldn't even get to it on my linux box because windows decided to lock it down and only give access to it from other vista boxes.

How about XP not not noticing/having hard time with SATA and multiple SATA drives? This problem is STILL not fixed.

BSOD happens more than you think, if you don't buy the most amazing and popular hardware, you get shafted, ask anyone with soundblaster's or ati's. Look up anything on vista and you'll see at least half the people if not more ranting about how terrible it is. lest you're one of the lucky ones and happened to have the proper hardware.

XP is stable yeah, so what? I dont get viruses, or spyware, my computer is much more efficient and takes up a fraction of the resources.

DirectX is an abomination of programming. It was written because WINDOWS can not handle proper communication from software to hardware, thus why you need a driver for everything minus the simple shit every computer has. For you rinformation I can boot up and run Ubuntu in 10 minutes and it recognized every piece of hardware I had, and let me connect to the internet, all running from ram alone, unless I chose to install. Can windows do that? Didn't think so. Ever wonder why most servers are Linux based? Yeah thats because they rarely crash or have problems.

I used windows for many years, and loved it. Now it's a love hate relationship because I can't play the games I love very well on linux.

Also, viruses never got me, ever. All my problems were simple glitches that M$ never took time to fix, or dirty little tricks they install on their system so that you can't do anything they don't want you to do. Or driver malfunctions that cost me my windows install like my Audigy SE did.

I'm not an idiot, so don't jump the gun and think I'm just a download whore and wasn't careful. Further proving that most people are idiots, I never once used a virus scanner, and never had problems. If you use common sense, you wont have any problem. Lets not mention that there have been viruses and trojans specifically designed to use AV software itself to infect your computer. But hey, it's not really my problem.

I'm not a linux elitist as I said previously either. Linux has plenty of problems, but 99% of the problems wont make you lose your shit or ruin your install. And that means it's at least 99% better than windows for that alone. Also, I'd rather have problems in an OS I didn't pay for than a problem in an OS that costs $100. Anything windows can do (Minus games) Linux can do, if not better, and more efficiently. Most people just see linux as too foreign and dont take the time to learn how to make it that way.

So yeah, Linux isn't better, it's just free and has less bugs. Gaming is at least 75% of the reason I have a computer in the first place. So, without gaming UGH ><.

We get it! You're a Linux elitist.

[Erotomaniac]

Spoken like a true computer n00b.

I'm sure windows vista, not letting me access my folders after a driver malfunction, on my other hardrive was MY fault. I couldn't even get to it on my linux box because windows decided to lock it down and only give access to it from other vista boxes.

How about XP not not noticing/having hard time with SATA and multiple SATA drives? This problem is STILL not fixed.

BSOD happens more than you think, if you don't buy the most amazing and popular hardware, you get shafted, ask anyone with soundblaster's or ati's. Look up anything on vista and you'll see at least half the people if not more ranting about how terrible it is. lest you're one of the lucky ones and happened to have the proper hardware.

XP is stable yeah, so what? I dont get viruses, or spyware, my computer is much more efficient and takes up a fraction of the resources.

DirectX is an abomination of programming. It was written because WINDOWS can not handle proper communication from software to hardware, thus why you need a driver for everything minus the simple shit every computer has. For you rinformation I can boot up and run Ubuntu in 10 minutes and it recognized every piece of hardware I had, and let me connect to the internet, all running from ram alone, unless I chose to install. Can windows do that? Didn't think so. Ever wonder why most servers are Linux based? Yeah thats because they rarely crash or have problems.

I used windows for many years, and loved it. Now it's a love hate relationship because I can't play the games I love very well on linux.

Also, viruses never got me, ever. All my problems were simple glitches that M$ never took time to fix, or dirty little tricks they install on their system so that you can't do anything they don't want you to do. Or driver malfunctions that cost me my windows install like my Audigy SE did.

I'm not an idiot, so don't jump the gun and think I'm just a download whore and wasn't careful. Further proving that most people are idiots, I never once used a virus scanner, and never had problems. If you use common sense, you wont have any problem. Lets not mention that there have been viruses and trojans specifically designed to use AV software itself to infect your computer. But hey, it's not really my problem.

I'm not a linux elitist as I said previously either. Linux has plenty of problems, but 99% of the problems wont make you lose your shit or ruin your install. And that means it's at least 99% better than windows for that alone. Also, I'd rather have problems in an OS I didn't pay for than a problem in an OS that costs $100. Anything windows can do (Minus games) Linux can do, if not better, and more efficiently. Most people just see linux as too foreign and dont take the time to learn how to make it that way.

So yeah, Linux isn't better, it's just free and has less bugs. Gaming is at least 75% of the reason I have a computer in the first place. So, without gaming UGH ><.

It goes both ways, guy.

Direct X is terrible programming? Drivers are a bad idea? What the hell are you talking about? Linux uses drivers! It's just that Linux has a ton of fucking drivers packaged into the OS. In fact, I have a laptop with a GeForce Go 7200 and a driver for that damn video card doesn't even EXIST on linux (I'm not blaming Linux here, but the unsupported software/hardware). I had to use something else, and when I did the whole damn thing would lock up randomly.

I've never had a problem getting XP to recognize my SATA drives. I also don't get viruses on any OS because I'm not an idiot. I haven't seen a BSOD in about 3-4 years. You act like you have to be 'lucky' not to get the BSOD...seriously, you are acting like quite the elitist.

[Nexus]

Your eyes can theoretically differentiate between much higher fps; the problem is the refresh rate on monitors is typically 60Hz, so assuming the frames sync up right with the refresh rate, you can't actually show more than 60 FPS.

Thank you for pointing this out. I hate to have to tell people this, especially when they go on about 220 fps or whatever.

[xrevenge]

It's tough that the game is being made using directx, would have been nice to see it use opengl for easy linux porting or wine compatibility.

This thread seems somewhat of a flame war, yeah, windows isn't all that great when we see it in the 'how it was programmed' way, but it is highly usable. And it controls most of the desktop market so etc..

I use linux myself, and wine stuff up, but sometimes I use windows on some games that are just too hardware demanding (or games I want to run fast), like say, Assassin's Creed.

On a note from a random post in this thread, linux DOES have nvidia drivers, that's just silly to say otherwise. It has free drivers, and it has the Nvidia Proprietary Drivers (made by nvidia themselves) which are usually bundled with w/e distro of linux you use.

Open source software has great advantages over the windows market, the problem is that it started to grow pretty late when Microsoft already had a firm sole control over the desktop market. Everyone has their right to use what ever operating system they want, each has their pro's and con's. And, this forum is about the game, not windows vs linux silly disputes that end in the usual, linux pwns windows with this, but windows has a bunch of this user base and programs, and etc etc.

Peace, and have fun.

[Parkinsons]

I had WoW working fine with wine. They said the requirements for DFO were low so you should be fine... or duel boot.

[xrevenge]

I had WoW working fine with wine. They said the requirements for DFO were low so you should be fine... or duel boot.

Yeah, I wined WoW for a long time. Til recently that I quit WoW for this, Shattrath city was awefully lagged, linux or windows. Didn't really lose much frames on linux, sometimes it actually ran smoother. Sometimes.

[Xez]

Linux is more the sandbox type of OS ;)

Windows is the themepark one :p

[Darq]

I'm generalizing
Companies don't like having no warranty, no one responsible for their product.
Linux is the kernel. On top of it there is open source software (with exceptions) maintained by volunteers. If the software has a bug you can report it and it's up to the volunteers to fix it or not and when. That's unreliable and companies don't want that.
Another problem is that there is not standard (from the CEO's pov) you even have the choice of multiple libc's, of course that's also not a problem since you can link every dependecy statically.
Support, the biggest topic, how would you give support when
1. the personnel isn't trained
2. there is no standard

I can understand why they chose Windows, when at the time they began development Linux was a non-factor. Also they probably were proficient in DirectX and not OpenGL.
And like a year ago the leading OpenGL developer (Carmack) sold out to the console world. Perhaps DirectX was also more suited for the task.

Microsoft won't open their DirectX code as it's the major reason why people are still using Windows and not Linux for personal use.

One thing is for sure tho, memory manipulation doesn't exist on linux. I've done some research a few years back (i wanted to write something like tsearch for linux), and the only function which would allow a process to access another process' memory didn't work and was obsoleted.

[Replacement]

This is a small questions that needs a small answer.

Will Darkfall be able to run on linux? Or is it only available for Windows?

[Fudgy_Neeples]

Windows only. Darkfall is not planning to make a version for the Mac or Linux or whatever else besides windows. It could change, but it's not likely.

[OvanOf Twilight]

If your using Linux you should be able to figure out a way around that anyway, Linux gives you the tools to fix it's problems.

[Replacement]

The problem with trying to work around it is that it might not work with wine, and if I try to get it to work, I might lose some of the quality, and fps. Ill probably just dual boot, thanks for the info you two.

[GRCPan]

This is a small questions that needs a small answer.

Will Darkfall be able to run on linux? Or is it only available for Windows?

Like it has not been answered 314322 times before. NO

[Nefastus]

This is a small questions that needs a small answer.

Will Darkfall be able to run on linux? Or is it only available for Windows?

I'm sure someone will make a fix for Linux to support Darkfall. You'll more likely see Darkfall additionally on Linux rather than Mac.

[claudiofm]

the day that vanguard and Darkfall are in linux, I delete windows from my HD

[Deja vu]

as many others have said I am sure some one will come up with a fix to let it work for you.

[Mercerism]

Well, It's not that easy to implement a closed source client into Linux for the end users.
If they'd give out the source which they won't do, It'd be easy to do a real port. In the end you'll probably have to use wine...

I'd really appreciate a full linux port, and I'd like to know if the games uses OpenGL or Direct3X..

[Jayaris]

Just use Windows, whiners.

[Shillelagh]

I would very much expect that a way to play DF on Linux will emerge.

Although I have to say I shed tears today when I saw dxdiag was mandatory for Beta app and I was on my linux box at work heh

[Mercerism]

I don't suppose there's a point to asking this, but do you think there's *any* possibility that there will be a native linux port, or maybe the developers could consider doing this? I'm sure there's a million guys who would port it for free for them, too.

Anyway, I'm just tired of WiNE or using anything M$ lol ><. I dont want to have to go back to windows to play this game - because I will, because this game is definitely worth it. I just hope if not, wine can run it fine.

Yeh, well, Windows blows, It'd be great if they did a native port to linux.

Wine.
If M&B, HL2 can run on it, I'm sure DF will.

Nope, you can't judge that way. It depends entirely the specific application and on the version of wine you're using. One version might run it and the next version won't run it anymore. You also can't judge it like "Oh, i can run Crysis in Wine, so it has to be able to run anything else too."!
Wine is for Whiners.. Windows is for Pros!

Windows is for the newbzors...



I'd still like to know wheter Darkfall uses OpenGL or DirectX.

[Dwhap]

Linux + WINE = Darkfall. I dual boot to Linux and run most of my Windows games there (at better FPS I may add...)

[OvanOf Twilight]

Or you can just download Windows XP to a disc, change the GRUB and boot into windows for it.

[YoMaNaTiOn]

Just simulate windows with linux and play Darkfall on it.

[Kaorn]

Linux + Darkfall = no

(Linux * Wine) + Darkfall = Yes!

[Mercerism]

I did recently change to use Ubuntu-Linux operating system and I am so much liking it that I won't change back to old, rather quit gaming if needed.

However my concern is that will Darkfall be playable with wine on linux since I belive that wine 1.0 will be out by then.

This would be really great because I just won't be using M$ winpain ever again on my computers...

Hm, the day that they accounce a native Linux version of Darkfall, I'll throw a party...

And I'd still like to know wheter Darkfall uses DirectX or OpenGL.

[YoMaNaTiOn]

Linux + Darkfall = no

(Linux * Wine) + Darkfall = Yes!

Linux + Forumfall = fuck yes.

[Alucard]

I have seen what... three linux threads on the front page now? Please stop bumping old threads and stick with the current ones.

[FreeBooteR]

I run Gnu/Linux Ubuntu and will definately be trying to get it to run under wine.

wine = wine is not an emulator

[Alucard]

Please use one "Will Darkfall run with Linux or any variant there of" thread please.

[OvanOf Twilight]

Let me just say, if your running Ubuntu, you have ALL the tools you need to run DFO on Linux. That's why it is so great. Use the Man Pages if your stuck.

[Khael[SUN]]

are you kidding, linux is not for games...

I mean i run my servers on linux and that is nice, but for gaming no.

The same goes for mac, except its not good for servers nor games, but its really nice for playing music, if you dont mind paying 3 times as much for your pc (5 times if you live in europe) and you cant score girls any other way.

[YoMaNaTiOn]

UNIX>Linux cheapfags!

[Khael[SUN]]

I did recently change to use Ubuntu-Linux operating system and I am so much liking it that I won't change back to old, rather quit gaming if needed.

However my concern is that will Darkfall be playable with wine on linux since I belive that wine 1.0 will be out by then.

This would be really great because I just won't be using M$ winpain ever again on my computers...

the answer is no, guess you are stuck with mine-sweeper.

[GrayGhost79]

That sucks. I guess I'll just keep my 80g with windows on it. In the meantime I'll be happy doing everything else in linux.

I'll test it with wine first, if not, then screw it.

I'm not sure why developers haven't noticed that the amount of people using linux, are growing. Eventually, there will be a big demand for this sort of thing, and they could ride out this revolution of sorts and profit from it.

Oh well.

The problem with Linux is, while vastly superior to windows, it's a bit over complicated for your average user.

[Drizden!]

one thing is for certain.. aventuring will never release thier source code.. that would be fucking retarded

1. HAX would ruin the game
2. Funcom would steal teh code =(

But they could contract someone to make a Linux & Mac ports. I'll be dual booting windows just to play the game. Micro$oft sucks and there is no way getting around that. Mac OS X and Linux are like brother and sister. If you can port to one you may as well port to the other because they are nearly the same at the core. Furtherfore the only thing taping the increasingly popular Mac market is WoW and Linux is almost completely untapped. I would estimate that they will get more than enough subscribers to warrant a port.

[Yaroze]

Fore me to even try this game it has to run on Linux, doesnt matter if its really native or if it runs in WINE, as long as it actually runs :D

[chimp]

I did recently change to use Ubuntu-Linux operating system and I am so much liking it that I won't change back to old, rather quit gaming if needed.

However my concern is that will Darkfall be playable with wine on linux since I belive that wine 1.0 will be out by then.

This would be really great because I just won't be using M$ winpain ever again on my computers...

um, cant you just dualboot and have a small xp partition? seems like it would be worth it tbh.

[zoddwraith]

i think a dedicated support for DF will be needed... i dont think that right now wine will work with DF.... but they'll surely do something, there will be a lot of DF fans between linux developers ;)

[bacca87]

Linux > Window$

[Radeth]

Just simulate windows with linux and play Darkfall on it.

If by "simulating" you mean using Virtual Box (or some other similar program that lets you open another OS inside a window) I'm sorry to tell you it doesn't YET support 3D graphics; when it will (and I hope that'll happen soon) we'll throw away Dual Boot, Wine, Cedega, PlayOnLinux and other similar tricks to run our games.

[zarzare]

If by "simulating" you mean using Virtual Box (or some other similar program that lets you open another OS inside a window) I'm sorry to tell you it doesn't YET support 3D graphics; when it will (and I hope that'll happen soon) we'll throw away Dual Boot, Wine, Cedega, PlayOnLinux and other similar tricks to run our games.

i'm pretty sure vmware already supports 3d graphics just that it's a lot slower to run something on a virtual machine then natively (as wine does).

[ejnomad07]

No linux sorry.

[VorpalSpork]

I did recently change to use Ubuntu-Linux operating system and I am so much liking it that I won't change back to old, rather quit gaming if needed.

However my concern is that will Darkfall be playable with wine on linux since I belive that wine 1.0 will be out by then.

This would be really great because I just won't be using M$ winpain ever again on my computers...

The only people who complain about Windows are people who don't know how to use it properly. I never have any of the problems I hear people complain about. Don't blame the OS for it. I have no clue what wine is. Sorry I can't help.

Linux > Window$

Hope you have fun playing tic-tac-toe in GIMP while I'm playing Darkfall then. :P

[Salio]

i'm having a blast in ubuntu, i hope DF will run on WINE fine. if it doesnt, well i can still dual boot anyways.

[olsmithy]

I would very much expect that a way to play DF on Linux will emerge.

Although I have to say I shed tears today when I saw dxdiag was mandatory for Beta app and I was on my linux box at work heh

I don't understand what all the fuss is about here...
I submitted my beta request using linux. DirectX works fine for me under wine in Ubuntu.
http://www.smokinglinux.com/gaming/play-your-windows-games-with-wine-and-directx

I'll right everyone a tutorial when I get my hands on a copy of the game and play with it a bit to see if I can get it working for you guys and myself when it's released.

Important thing to remember is that wine is an on going project with 100's even 1000's of developers worldwide. Myself included and we are working hard every day to make things like this possible. DirectX just happens to be one of them for now.