Newbies, some infos about the game!!

[Terroth]

For everyones new here, you have to know that DFO is a role playing game.

Everyones who wants to play this game only for it's PVP system will be very disapointed.

Sure the pvp will be awesome but it's like 10% of the game content.

This game will be very hard to handle for peoples who does'nt play UO. Don't expect to own everyones if you only do PK. You should read all the game features before thinking like that.

[Morthor]

Who are you? Just about everything you said is wrong.

Or did I just get trolled?

[Erillian]

For everyones new here, you have to know that DFO is a role playing game.

Everyones who wants to play this game only for it's PVP system will be very disapointed.

Sure the pvp will be awesome but it's like 10% of the game content.

This game will be very hard to handle for peoples who does'nt play UO. Don't expect to own everyones if you only do PK. You should read all the game features before thinking like that.
im sorry to say I think the PvP will more likely be like 33 % of the game... if not more...

[Archmichael]

You don't think that a group of hardcore PVPers will find success with this game?

I think the beauty of Darkfall is that there are multiple ways to play successfully. Sure, other games have multiple ways of playing, but they almost always have a good way, and a gimped way. In Darkfall, the systems in place really seem to stand alone - even while they compliment each other.

I believe a PKer will find just as much success in Darkfall as anybody else. Sure, they might lose out in some other areas of the game, but they'll excel in some others too.

[Zwarp]

im sorry to say I think the PvP will more likely be like 33 % of the game... if not more...

That's fallen earth, hopefully there will be no safe zones in Darkfall !

[Jonkar]

For everyones new here, you have to know that DFO is a role playing game.

Everyones who wants to play this game only for it's PVP system will be very disapointed.

Sure the pvp will be awesome but it's like 10% of the game content.

This game will be very hard to handle for peoples who does'nt play UO. Don't expect to own everyones if you only do PK. You should read all the game features before thinking like that.

Do the devs know already?

[Ganon]

Who are you? Just about everything you said is wrong.

Or did I just get trolled?

you have been trick-trolled!

[Chomp]

Gosh, I never played UO. Guess I should go back to Runescape since Darkfall will be too hard for me since, you know, I never played UO.

[Zwarp]

Gosh, I never played UO. Guess I should go back to Runescape since Darkfall will be too hard for me since, you know, I never played UO.

God damn newb ! Or should i say, nuob !
But yeah, UO is a 2d game, so you can't play darkfall if you've got no expertise in it

[WizGamer]

PVP is probably 55%-60% of the game with quests/lore/pve/dynamic events/crafting/player economy/city building/clan managing/exploring/leveling skills being about 40%

[Terroth]

You don't think that a group of hardcore PVPers will find success with this game?

I think the beauty of Darkfall is that there are multiple ways to play successfully. Sure, other games have multiple ways of playing, but they almost always have a good way, and a gimped way. In Darkfall, the systems in place really seem to stand alone - even while they compliment each other.

I believe a PKer will find just as much success in Darkfall as anybody else. Sure, they might lose out in some other areas of the game, but they'll excel in some others too.

I think the only way to be a "PK'ers only" is by playing an Alfar and play around other races cities all the time because in a huge land like Agon you will not always find someone to kill not the same race as you. And you will have to be a lot of alfars all the times because they will call their friends and chasing you all the times.

[Terroth]

PVP is probably 55%-60% of the game with quests/lore/pve/dynamic events/crafting/player economy/city building/clan managing/exploring/leveling skills being about 40%


all that you said is not achievable by pking only

if you expect to levelling your skills only by pking you will not be strong my friend ;)

[WizGamer]

Okay, some of you people jump the gun and scream "OMG OPEN PVP! FULL LOOT! I'm going to kill everyone instantly?!!?!?!!!!! YAYYA." Seriously, Agon is so huge that it won't be for a while before you encounter other races. Sure a few people will invade your city really early on because they play all the time and they will kill you easily unless you zerg them. You can run to their cities too and kill them but you will probably not make the journey and die when you get there anyway. Also, killing your own people has a serious alignment hit and no newb is going to be able to solo a guard.

[Terroth]

im sorry to say I think the PvP will more likely be like 33 % of the game... if not more...

ok maybe my 10% was a little low, but all I want to say is I'm tired of peoples who only talk about "I will kill you all" this is not only a pvp game because of the full loot system.

[Erillian]

ok maybe my 10% was a little low, but all I want to say is I'm tired of peoples who only talk about "I will kill you all" this is not only a pvp game because of the full loot system.
:lmao::lmao: For that quote I will kill you;) :lmao::lmao:

[Etrurian_Akab]

PVP is probably 55%-60% of the game with quests/lore/pve/dynamic events/crafting/player economy/city building/clan managing/exploring/leveling skills being about 40%

That's bullshit; anyway, I can invent idiot percentages too.

I would say about darkfall; cake pie will be a 10%, pvp 20 %, pve 15%, pvo 5%, pva 10%, city management 40%, flying cows 30%, banana pie 15%, crafting 30 %, sex toys 16 %, retards like you 50%, your mum in underwear 15 %.... how much it's that?... don't know, around 100%, no? So that's my stimation about darkfall.

PvP is for noobs; hardcore players go craft cool hats.

[dirtknap]

funny i thought this was an online dating game. oh well.

[Erillian]

funny i thought this was an online dating game. oh well.
Sometimes you get suprised....

[Terroth]

:lmao::lmao: For that quote I will kill you;) :lmao::lmao:

Lol

[sasara]

I sincerely hope that this will be a "whatever the hell you want it to be, provided you can live with the consequences" game. PvP is an important part of that. More for some than for others, but the freedom is the attraction.

[Zwarp]

PVP is probably 55%-60% of the game with quests/lore/pve/dynamic events/crafting/player economy/city building/clan managing/exploring/leveling skills being about 40%

Quests = you could be killed at any time during your quest
PvE= same as above
Dynamic events = Expect some PvP groups raiding events
Crafting = another sort of PvP, which is not killing people
Player economy = totally pvp related, except its not a PvP involving fights
city building = you won't be able to build a city unless you're into PvP, so that belongs with PvP too
Exploring = you could be killed when exploring so watch your back or die a lot
Levelling = the same as above

So, Darkfall will be what, 90% PvP, and the rest, I dont know you can fill in the blanks :p

[freeze_SD]

cant wait to force PvP on some ppl here :D

blue dot policy ftw

[Veantur]

For everyones new here, you have to know that DFO is a role playing game.

Everyones who wants to play this game only for it's PVP system will be very disapointed.

Sure the pvp will be awesome but it's like 10% of the game content.

This game will be very hard to handle for peoples who does'nt play UO. Don't expect to own everyones if you only do PK. You should read all the game features before thinking like that.

ehh troll need food?
have tons of cakes for u


edit: can a mod close this redarted thread pls ?

[SamDog]

Good Sirs;

The OP is probably being optimistic about the 10% PvP. Even the most ardent PvP fanatic spends most his time running, unless you count sparring with your own guild as PvP.

When you think back on the really good PvP nights in other games, you and your gank squad spent most of the time looking for the next victim.

In a PvE game you can spend 80% in PvE if you are at a good spawn site etc. This is only broken up by trips back to the bank/store and trades between players. In a PvP game, the enemy doesn't keep coming back--you end up having to hunt him down.

your humble servent
SamDog

[Terroth]

ehh troll need food?
have tons of cakes for u


edit: can a mod close this redarted thread pls ?

They won't, but you will be banned

[Veantur]

They won't, but you will be banned



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u make my day

trolls ftw

[FrostByte]

You can throw those pretty numbers as much as you want and achieve nothing. Everything in this game is so intertwined with everything else that you really can´t separate them.

And yeas, full out pvp can get you to the same "level" with anyone else, exp comes from skill uses, not kills, so there´s basicly same amount of it available any way. Gear, you can loot heavy pve player, wich gives you anything he might have, but you can get as good set from local blacksmith anyway, so it´s balanced. Skills, you can learn nearly every skill without pve, some from other players too, and no skill will be overpowered no matter how much time you spent aquiring it.

[WizGamer]

Quests = you could be killed at any time during your quest
PvE= same as above
Dynamic events = Expect some PvP groups raiding events
Crafting = another sort of PvP, which is not killing people
Player economy = totally pvp related, except its not a PvP involving fights
city building = you won't be able to build a city unless you're into PvP, so that belongs with PvP too
Exploring = you could be killed when exploring so watch your back or die a lot
Levelling = the same as above

So, Darkfall will be what, 90% PvP, and the rest, I dont know you can fill in the blanks :p

Yeah but content-wise, pvp will be there, but it won't be the focus for those activities.

[Zakkery]

Surely you decide what you focus on? You could quite easily run away from PvP fights and spend your entire time crafting or PvE'ing. Equally, you could spend your entire time killing other people and get along just fine. Making up percentages for content is stupid, just because a high percentage of the game may be PvP based, it doesn't mean i have to PvP.

[WizGamer]

Surely you decide what you focus on? You could quite easily run away from PvP fights and spend your entire time crafting or PvE'ing. Equally, you could spend your entire time killing other people and get along just fine. Making up percentages for content is stupid, just because a high percentage of the game may be PvP based, it doesn't mean i have to PvP.

Good point. I guess it's going to relative to each player. Some people might have it as 95% with 5% being exploring because of all the running.

[Terroth]

Who are you? Just about everything you said is wrong.

Or did I just get trolled?

I'm Terroth from the great city of Mirendil, who are you to treat an Elf like that dwarf?

[Morthor]

I'm Terroth from the great city of Mirendil, who are you to treat an Elf like that dwarf?

Just stop... please. You're embarrasing yourself.

[nooblet]

Most parts of the game such as crafting and training will just be a means to pvp at a higher level, such as being able to gank more people, or preferably, clan warfare and seiges. Saying pvp will only be 10% is a joke, almost the entirety of the game is based around end game pvp and clan domination.

[Erillian]

Most parts of the game such as crafting and training will just be a means to pvp at a higher level, such as being able to gank more people, or preferably, clan warfare and seiges. Saying pvp will only be 10% is a joke, almost the entirety of the game is based around end game pvp and clan domination.
I think this will depend on your playstyle...

[Morthor]

I think this will depend on your playstyle...

Nope, PvP will be involved with anything you try to do. No instances means you can be interrupted at any second in a dungeon. Crafting / trading - same thing, you can be robbed.

You can't say that pvp isn't pivotal to every aspect of the game's design.

[Terroth]

Just stop... please. You're embarrasing yourself.

I just want to stress you :sly: because asking me who I am is stupid since no one gives their real names here

[Morthor]

I just want to stress you :sly:

Then you're failing horribly I'm afraid, because I find it hilarious.

[Zwarp]

I just want to stress you :sly: because asking me who I am is stupid since no one gives their real names here

I did... I'm Zwarp and I'm from mars, however I can't give you my last name because you wouldn't be able to pronounce it properly

[Terroth]

Then you're failing horribly I'm afraid, because I find it hilarious.

I'm happy to making you laugh, but it was sarcasm :D

[Morthor]

I'm happy to making you laugh, but it was sarcasm :D

Sorry, since when did sarcasm work on the internets?

[Terroth]

I did... I'm Zwarp and I'm from mars, however I can't give you my last name because you wouldn't be able to pronounce it properly

Maybe he will understand like this :D

[SpectralColt]

i think you spelt "everyone" wrong... :) yeah i think pvp will be more than 10% as most things will probably end in fights, i cant wait to see a riot in one of the npc cities, fighing all the guards until we all die :) haha

[FrostByte]

I did... I'm Zwarp and I'm from mars, however I can't give you my last name because you wouldn't be able to pronounce it properly

Heh, i could give you my real name but since you suckers couldn´t pronounce it properly anyway i´ll pass.


And sarcasm does work in the internet, there´s just big number of those too stupid to read it and those too stupid to realize they don´t know how to use it properly.

<edit> I just have to say, community is far too lenient with trolls these days...this should´ve ended in flames at page 2 max...

[Fro]

I'm Terroth from the great city of Mirendil, who are you to treat an Elf like that dwarf?

That made me fucking cringe. I still cant tell if this is just a troll or something.

[Fudgy_Neeples]

Nope, PvP will be involved with anything you try to do. No instances means you can be interrupted at any second in a dungeon. Crafting / trading - same thing, you can be robbed.

You can't say that pvp isn't pivotal to every aspect of the game's design.

True, but the game is also heavily focused on PvE also. There's probably going to be a mix of PvE and PvP in most things you do so the OP does have a point. It would be a shame to ignore the PvE in this game since it's going to be different than the standard kill x monster then kill stronger monster and etc.

[Steelbadger]

True, but the game is also heavily focused on PvE also. There's probably going to be a mix of PvE and PvP in most things you do so the OP does have a point. It would be a shame to ignore the PvE in this game since it's going to be different than the standard kill x monster then kill stronger monster and etc.

Yes, but the very highest that a guild will be able to aspire will be territorial conquest. That means that money and resource gathering (PvE) is part of the war effort, crafting is part of the war effort, trading is part of the war effort.

I suppose if you tried really hard, only logged on for 10 minutes every day, never spoke to anyone and only ever logged in to appreciate the architecture and never made money, then it may be possible to do something completely unrelated to PvP.

Everything else, though, stems from PvP.