News about RP servers?

[Norseman]

Hail and well met.
I am curious as to whether things got worked out with regards to RP servers.
Are we going to have servers that are devoted to RP while keeping u17r4 1337 homiez outta teh world? It would certainly be nice to have servers devoted to more mature gameplay.
Any links to how RP will be handled would be appreciated. Thanks! :sly:

[Jonkar]

We don't know. Not that it matters, RP servers don't work anyway.

[Thugstyle]

We don't know. Not that it matters, RP servers don't work anyway.
/thread

[Nehemia]

Any links to how RP will be handled would be appreciated.

To be honest, theres no real way to handling roleplaying, each group has its own ways of doing so. In addition, Aventurine has stated they do not intend to roll different kinds of servers (RP,Perma-death) of anykind. You'll be able to roleplay just fine in the normal servers, as the community does in most cases welcome roleplaying with open arms.

[Jonkar]

One thing we should do though, is gather as much RP clans as we can on one server (If multiple servers launch).

[Nehemia]

One thing we should do though, is gather as much RP clans as we can on one server (If multiple servers launch).

That is one option, but the problem is, we'll see a bunch of griefer clans coming after us, just for the sake of fun.
Well, if thats a problem or not is a question, certainly I won't find it troubling.

[Norseman]

One thing we should do though, is gather as much RP clans as we can on one server (If multiple servers launch).

Excellent idea!

I think RP servers (if enforced via CSRs) can work. No, you can't force people to roleplay, but you can enforce 1) a naming policy and 2)leet chatter on non-ooc channels.
Thats all I am asking. I don't like walking around seeing people named "Whattupdog" and so forth. That really ruins the atmosphere, as does 'listening' to the banter in most of the channels.
Its a shame that these 'I don't want to RP, I don't want to be forced to have a name change, I don't want to comply' people always want to come to RP servers.
Regardless, I think Jonkar came up with a great idea and I applaud it. IF enough of us get on a particular server, there won't be enough room for the leetuhz to have much sway.
Reinstalling DAOC for awhile, I'm guessing DF won't be out till towards 3Q...so it'll keep me busy for the time being.
Thanks for the replies everyone. <salute>

[Lethn]

Roleplaying Servers don't work and I'm pretty sure that we're all going to be on one huge server, if you want to roleplay get the clans together and form a community don't just expect the game to do it all for you.

[Damukag]

I don't think they're talking about claiming one of the servers as an RP server. I think they're just saying that we should have one server which most of the RPers join so that they can RP together.

That is, of course, only if they do multiple servers. Which I doubt somehow.

[Yumgetsum]

A lot of games have roleplaying servers it works it just takes cooperation from the community.

[Curcio]

A lot of games have roleplaying servers it works it just takes cooperation from the community.

/signed

[Jonkar]

A lot of games have roleplaying servers it works it just takes cooperation from the community.

The thing that "works" is creating a roleplaying community. This can be done on normal servers as well. The thing is, RP servers attract retards bent on annoying RP'ers and stopping their fun. These kind of people generally don't form communities, so if there's no community of them, they'll spread out to various servers or forget the idea entirely.

[Wufiavelli]

That is one option, but the problem is, we'll see a bunch of griefer clans coming after us, just for the sake of fun.
Well, if thats a problem or not is a question, certainly I won't find it troubling.

Joys of killing griefers 50 times then watching them brag how they slaughter rpers for fun.

[Lionlegs]

I enjoy RPing with non-RPers. It's always great fun. Back in my WoWing days, whenever someone would refer to something OOCly, I would go out of my way to follow the RP rules as much as possible. If its helping them with a quest, I'd say... walk to the location and use my RP gear for fighting, after annoying them for half an hour with "What do you mean, friend?".

"GOLD PLZ KK!"
"Excuse me?"
"CAN I HAV 1G PLZZ"
"I don't think I can understand you, friend. Try explaining slowly."
"OMG U FKING NOOB 1G OK LOOOL"
"You're not from around these parts, are you? Lucky for you, I'm interested in languages"
"OMG FFS 1G FKIN AHHH"
*Quits server*

Follow this example, my children :D

[Kusghuul]

Also,
"Just dc/ed, back now"
"Excuse me? You what?
"Yeah, lost con"
"Uhmmm... *Pats head patronisingly* Have a very special day, you very special person..."

[Eneriaz]

As I understand it, the channels we have will only be say/shout/clan/party/tell. Therefore so long as RPers group together in any given server, the chances of having everyday fun ruined by the l33tness is reduced to bumping into A) some idiot completely lost, or B) an anti-RP guild.

In both situations you can RP with methods already given in this thread, and who doesnt like showing anti-RPers just how good a roleplayer fights. While doing it all in character.

[Brando]

For Age of Conan we created a coalition of RP guilds with a common goal of dropping RP to band together to drive griefer elements off the server and to encourage RP amongst ourselves. What we didn't do was to create a list of rules for RP, but rather build a positive reinforcement by allowing clans a channel through which to develop events, discuss problems and share resources.

So far we number over 800 members across nearly 20 or so guilds. It also provides us an avenue to communicate a single server, although with DFO only having one, this aspect might be moot.

Perhaps we could create something similar for DFO to at least provide a central resource for those inclined to an RP environment.

[Bine]

A mod to develope a chat 'window' in game that allows communication from people who connect to it? Though that would probably mean someone needing to erect a separate third party server.

[Kusghuul]

Does anyone know if there'll be those chat bubbles above your head? Always preferred them to chat.

[Jonkar]

I'm not entirely sure, but I believe they''re not in. Unfortunatly. I prefer them myself as well.

[Kusghuul]

Damn. Oh well. Can't have everything, i guess.

[alhazred]

THERE IS NO DARKFALL LIGHT

read the site they say this

[Axidus]

Name restrictions are really gay....and are sort of counter-intuitive for the philosophy this game hinges upon: freedom. Besides, names help you assess your enemy, they add an interesting depth to perception (sort of the "online" version of judging people by their looks, while not always correct, more often than not the truth of the stereotype holds true).

[Bodu]

Ron Paul servers?

[Sgt. John Knock]

Well the thing about names is that I think you have to inspect people to see them. There's definitely no names above their heads.

As for RP servers, to be honest I don't mind. A lot of RP Clans have already spoken amongst themselves and pretty much everyone's open to joining the same server.

Griefers probably won't be too much of a problem. I've noticed with many games that RPers tend to stick together moreso than other people. Unless griefers organised a large group of themselves, they'd probably be at a disadvantage.

[Kaorn]

I think they said that there will only be one server at launch, but as they add more servers there will arise an unofficial RP server.

[Krydon]

We don't know. Not that it matters, RP servers don't work anyway.

They can when properly enforced. I've never seen RP rules enforced, though. That's the only problem.

[Krydon]

Name restrictions are really gay....and are sort of counter-intuitive for the philosophy this game hinges upon: freedom. Besides, names help you assess your enemy, they add an interesting depth to perception (sort of the "online" version of judging people by their looks, while not always correct, more often than not the truth of the stereotype holds true).

Naming restrictions are good in a lot of ways. "Xxsmokesalotxx." Need I say more? Or "ilovechucknorris." It insults the game and everyone else they even speak to. Some of the names in WoW and even UO are outright disgusting.

I can live with minimal naming restrictions only under the condition that my ignore list can hold an unlimited number of names.

[Rivers27]

Naming restrictions are good in a lot of ways. "Xxsmokesalotxx." Need I say more? Or "ilovechucknorris." It insults the game and everyone else they even speak to. Some of the names in WoW and even UO are outright disgusting.

I can live with minimal naming restrictions only under the condition that my ignore list can hold an unlimited number of names.


Sounds like you get your panties in a bunch whenever someone executes their right to name their character whatever the hell they want.

[Krydon]

Sounds like you get your panties in a bunch whenever someone executes their right to name their character whatever the hell they want.

No, I usually just consider them too pathetic to speak to me and I /ignore their ridiculous name. I don't have time for children when there are adults out there I could speak to instead.

[Jonkar]

They can when properly enforced. I've never seen RP rules enforced, though. That's the only problem.

That's just the problem. Only if a game is made for roleplayers, it'd happen. So tough luck.

[Conley]

What the advantage of an RP server is, is that everyone who is interested in roleplaying will roll on that server, no matter at which point they buy the game.

This has the effect that there will always be more roleplayers on an RP server then on a normal server (logically). In RP, the rule is, the more roleplayers the merrier, for that reason an RP server will always succeed in offering a better environment for roleplayers, even if there is no enforcement whatsoever.

Creating RP communities or appointing "an unofficial RP server" simply does not have the same effect, because not everyone reads the forums, not everyone gets the game at launch, most buyers will just find the game in the shop one day and try it out, and without knowing where the RP community is, they will be on normal servers wondering where the RP is instead of being on a designated RP server where they will at least find some RP.

Hence for roleplayers, when you buy LOTRO or WoW or any other game that has RP servers, the RP on RP servers will always be massively better then the RP on non-RP servers. Not because there is any enforcements, but because the RP server garantuees that every player, old and new, no matter what their experience, will be on that RP server if they have even a mild interest in roleplaying.

And with every discussion about RP servers you always see threaths and scaremongering about PVP' ers rolling on RP servers to ruin the lives of RP' ers. It's complete nonsence of course. Of course there will always be non-roleplaers (arguably the majority) on RP servers, but despite the threats I've never actually seen a group of (griefing PVP' ers) ever being succesfull in scaring RP' ers off.

[Xaixis]

I would love the idea of an RP server yet it is, as stated before, probably not going to happen.

IMO I think RPing makes the game more interesting. Gives the game meaning. W/e, we will see what happens

[Aesh]

When you start to enforce it, the game population goes way down the more you enforce it, but I understand that having RP servers named will result in RPers focusing onto those servers. Sure you'll always have the non-rpers that go to the rp servers because their friends told them to or they're illiterate or have the IQ of a radish, but in general, most people you meet will be on the RP server for a reason.

Plus, anyone who makes the assumption that "RP = bad at PvP" should come to the RP servers and demonstrate such, if they can.

[Suraknar]

I would rather they did not make specific servers, kinda like UO, there was just servers, and each one was a nice mix of communities (RP Community, PK Community, Anti-PK community, Crafter Community, etc) forming a unique Server community of every single server.

Besides its more immersing like that, just like in the real World, not everyone is a soldier and not everyone is an artist, real world is about variety.

[Masumatek]

RP servers will only take away from all the other servers as they'll have many less rpers :(.

[Prox]

I don't think there should be RP servers, RPers should RP if they want to. I mean if yer like "lets go slay those goblins over yonder hill!" and some guys walks up and says "lol n00b lmao I pwn u rofl eat dick retard" Then you decide what happens by either cutting the guys head off or dieing yourself. Personally I think people should talk in whatever manner they want but making up little events to RP in is just gay. RPing in events that just happen in game is the only RPing that should happen anyways.

[Erillian]

I have never been the big RP'er but have tried some RP servers around and actually I don't think it work.

[Conley]

I have never been the big RP'er but have tried some RP servers around and actually I don't think it work.


That's because you've never been a "big RP' er". For "big RP'ers" these servers actually work, because they can spend time roleplaying with other "big RP'ers" who also have created a character on that RP server.

Just check the amount of RP events on any of the RP forums in WoW or LOTRO. There is usually an event every day, sometimes more then one, and tehse events get visited by roleplayers (big-rp' ers) who happily spend anywhere between 30 minutes to several hours doing nothing but roleplaying.

These servers won't work for people who aren't (big)roleplayers, but they work for people who are. And thats why big RP' ers will always ask for an RP server to be opened.

[Tharkon Fargor]

Role playing servers do work.

But hopefully this game will be mature, 15 or 18+, it will be full pvp, full or almost full loot and with some complicated elements that will mean that any kid attempting to play it will pfail.

I'd enjoy some vulgar language a lá Fallout in it when it fits to, so that mommies will protect their kids from this.

Apart from this, I wouldn't mind a RP server, but I somehow hope that Darkfall is that one game that won't need to make rules because just like in real life you'll get beaten up if you act as a complete tard.


Also,
"Just dc/ed, back now"
"Excuse me? You what?
"Yeah, lost con"
"Uhmmm... *Pats head patronisingly* Have a very special day, you very special person..."
This in particular annoys me very much.
People should understand that you can't be in character all the time and bloody respect that. I've been in one or two crazy "cult" like RP guilds in my time and frankly I enjoyed being in the 14yr olds UNITED PWNZ0RS more than in those cults.

[Tharkon Fargor]

What the advantage of an RP server is, is that everyone who is interested in roleplaying will roll on that server, no matter at which point they buy the game.

This has the effect that there will always be more roleplayers on an RP server then on a normal server (logically). In RP, the rule is, the more roleplayers the merrier, for that reason an RP server will always succeed in offering a better environment for roleplayers, even if there is no enforcement whatsoever.


Very very well said.
I've thought about this myself in the past but forgotten about it. Thank you for reminding me.

O_O not to drag it...but that's a prime example of "thinking outside the box" to solve a problem.
Having a roleplay server (full pvp ofcourse! no sissy carebear furry RP:ers) will attract people there even if it's not enforced.
Personally I'd like it to be enforced at least a little bit - perhaps stricter monitoring of the RP chat(If there will be any) - but in general even servers not enforced will provide a better element for roleplayers to be in.

[Krort'Paurk]

As an active role player I strongly dislike rp servers or the idea of a secluded rp environment. In my opinion a secluded rp environment is the equivalent of living in a suburb. You will gain some superficial amenities but lose the natural evolution of a more chaotic society.

Most rp guilds face a problem in non rp environments because they don't see a way of incorporating none role play interaction to enrich their own role play experience. I would say role players fall into two categories, one's who want privacy and more scripted role play and others who want interaction and unexpected occurrences. I've only played with the latter of the two groups and what appeals to me most is the idea of becoming a known fixture of the game that deepens the game play experience even for non role players.

GUL or Guardians of Undead Lords on my old UO shard Napa Valley was a good example of these latter guilds. GUL were role players and funny enough considered the most feared dungeon pk's on Napa Valley. GUL's niche activity was to defend lich lords. However GUL defended lich lords not by brute force but by stealthing through dungeons, getting right next to a player who was attacking a lich lord and then striking usually with a deadly poisoned weapon at the worst time for a player. GUL members would sometimes wait 20 or 30 minutes for the perfect time to strike and guarantee a kill. GUL subsequently deepened a players game experience by adding their own unique brand of paranoia when fighting lich lords.

[Dazarthas]

RP-exclusive servers will only encourage the haters to roll alts to bug roleplayers. It's better to just keep every server the same: all RP, all PvP, and if somebody laughs at you for using punctuation, separate his head from his body and go about your business. Eventually, it's likely that a tolerance will build up between the RP and non-RP divide, and griefers will probably be reduced by a significant amount after getting tired of losing everything they have every time they shoot their mouths off. So let the servers be.

[paganbran]

I do like RP servers, the server Vanguard had was incredable... (kinda of bitter about how they closed it though) RP guilds would form small cities and alliances. The group I was with even got spies trying to listen in on our guild meetings.
My WoW RP experiances are on both ends of the spectrum (horde and alliance), I met a few good groups but most of the people seemed to think they were "Destined to be a god" or some such... "god's gift to women" were pretty comon too.

RP was impossable to find in FFXI (no RP servers), I did find two short lived low RP group but one didn't want me cause of my race :( and the other was too tough to hook up with other RPers (very speratic hours).

UO on the other hand, Pac had alot of short lived RP groups. The RP comunity that did form was like getting into an old pair of wool pants.. takes a week to get past the outer shell and still no one notices you hehe. They came across as a bit overy elite and there were no guilds interested in an evil character who didn't want to destroy the world (or wasn't supposed to be a dark elf)...


In the end I've found it's easier to get conected with people on actual RP servers. Unofficial if we have to but real if I can get it :p

[Xinnro]

It would certainly be nice to have servers devoted to more mature gameplay.



More mature gameplay = roleplaying?

I guess playing Dungeons and Dragons is considered a higher level of social interaction.

[Nehemia]

More mature gameplay = roleplaying?

I guess playing Dungeons and Dragons is considered a higher level of social interaction.
The reason for this he has clearly played Everquests & World of Warcrafts, LOTRO's etcetra in which the mature folk goes to RP servers, just because all the retarded kids go to "normal servers".


Since Darkfall is about freedom, if we would just have one server which has bracketed special mentioning "Roleplayers go here."

[Tundravalco]

I dont understand the point of RP'ing and I can't see any possible fun in it. Anytime I see an RP'er i just have to stereotypically think that their lives suck so bad that they have to pretend to be somebody else online. Now that can't be the case for most people but thats always the impression that I get when I pass by one. Can anyone please set me straight with the views of RP'ing because I can't see them.

[Baal/Mrheat]

A lot of games have roleplaying servers it works it just takes cooperation from the community.

or make ur won rp community on the normal server??

rp servers is the dumbest thing they could add, splitting up the diffrent player styles, removing the spirit of the game...

[Baal/Mrheat]

I would love the idea of an RP server yet it is, as stated before, probably not going to happen.

IMO I think RPing makes the game more interesting. Gives the game meaning. W/e, we will see what happens

pff, i for one would create a char on the "RP server" just to fuck around if they added a crapy rp server...

just keep all servers Normal, why shouldent anyone be able to RP on a server with pvpers?

also what would the diffirence be? should they remove the free pvp aswell?

RP server is THE worst idea sofar....

[Krort'Paurk]

I dont understand the point of RP'ing and I can't see any possible fun in it. Anytime I see an RP'er i just have to stereotypically think that their lives suck so bad that they have to pretend to be somebody else online. Now that can't be the case for most people but thats always the impression that I get when I pass by one. Can anyone please set me straight with the views of RP'ing because I can't see them.

You shouldn't group all "rp'ers" together. RP is an extremely wide spectrum that can range from the most tame crafting guild to extremely pvp oriented guilds. Like I said previously the most feared player killer guild on the UO shard Napa Valley, was a role play guild called GUL (Guardians of Undead Lords).

I don't see how you can play a fantasy game anyways and then argue your not role playing on a subconscious level. So even if your not one of "those rp'ers" you're still actively participating in the games theme. And I doubt you would enjoy the game as much if it was a stripped down version with no artwork or lore that consisted solely of a raw 3d engine.

Nor do I see how you can claim people are acting like their someone else by role playing in a game when in reality by default of going online or into any virtual environment your identity is defined by the limited mechanics of the environment and the information you reveal about yourself. And most likely you don't reveal everything about yourself so by default your already acting like someone else whenever you step into a virtual environment even if it's subconscious.

All this said, the difference between a role players and non role players is small and it's a bit ludicrous to think that playing any game or playing a game in a certain style is some measurable indication of their outside life.

To answer your question RP is a very wide spectrum but the underlying reason for RP if you ask me is in a nutshell to create a more interesting game within a game. And to enhance the already existing features of the game. This usually boils down to doing certain things or not doing other things. For example in GUL, GUL's mission was to "protect" certain creatures in UO that were in dungeons. GUL did so usually by hiding and then attacking anyone who tried killing certain creatures. They were also required to wear a red bandanna. Similarly I believe to join GUL you needed to bring back a certain number of heads within an hour of other players.

I was introduced to RP through the guild I'm in now. I was attracted to their RP mainly for pvp, group centric thinking and aggressive mentality.

[Corwen]

Well said Krort'Paurk. Very well said.

Why blast RP if you haven't even tried it anyways.

Have you ever played an RPG game that wasn't MMO?

I wonder what you would call that...

Think about that for a second...

[Trepie]

I dont understand the point of RP'ing and I can't see any possible fun in it. Anytime I see an RP'er i just have to stereotypically think that their lives suck so bad that they have to pretend to be somebody else online. Now that can't be the case for most people but thats always the impression that I get when I pass by one. Can anyone please set me straight with the views of RP'ing because I can't see them.

As someone said above, you are playing a Massively Multiplayer Online Roleplaying Game. You're playing a role just by playing the game itself. You're an adventurer doing quests and gaining money. That's a very light form of RPing in itself.

Just because someone likes playing a little bit of a deeper role than that, doesn't mean they "have no life." I think it's just an added bonus to playing the game. I enjoy playing out other characters and having things happen that wouldn't be able to in the real world. It's not a replacement for myself, it's just a fun thing to do in a fantasy world someone else created.

[Trepie]

pff, i for one would create a char on the "RP server" just to fuck around if they added a crapy rp server...

Why? Would you feel better about yourself if you messed with how other people have fun in the game?

just keep all servers Normal, why shouldent anyone be able to RP on a server with pvpers?

It's called immersion. If a couple of people are in a city RPing and having a conversation, and then some guy walks up and says "lol wuts up" then that ruins the mood of the RP.

also what would the diffirence be? should they remove the free pvp aswell?

No one is asking that the server be any different from a gameplay point than any other. Labeling it as RP, and perhaps having GMs enforce a few RP related rules such as having decent RP names is all that's being asked.

RP server is THE worst idea sofar....

I disagree, and I don't see how it is a bad idea at all.

[Mojache]

Let me clear this up.
All darkfall servers are darkfall servers.
They are going to contain PvP, RP, PvE, and everything inbetween all at once. You can RP but little to your knowing, there may be a group of PKers and antis battling on a few steps away.

[Sgt. John Knock]

To be honest I don't mind either way. While RP servers would be better for emmersion, I think that if there were only Normal Servers, the RP community on those servers would tend to become closer (Because they'd prefer talking to other RPers). As Krort said, if you're playing an MMORPG, you're roleplaying to a certain level anyway. I think that the borderline between what people call an RPer and a non-RPer is emmersion. RPers prefer more emmersion and so they act and speak like their character would. It doesn't mean that they lead sorry lives and so try to escape. It's just that it's more entertaining to behave like your character would. After all, even if you don't RP, you're playing a game instead of leading your own life. So in a way, aren't we all escaping into a fantasy world?

As someone who's played on both RP and normal servers in various games, I can honestly say at the risk of being flamed that RP servers are much more fun. I first tried Roleplaying about 5 years ago when my friend introduced me to the concept of an RP server, and I've never looked back. If you've never tried RPing, give it an honest go. It's much more fun when you can really get into the spirit of the world of the game you're playing. Take something like world PvP. You can gank all you please, and it's good fun. But if you've ever tried Roleplaying while PvPing, it's much more fulfilling. I remember a few years ago while playing WoW (This was before I heard of DF of course), and I joined an RP guild based on a group of Assassins. Every member was a rogue or a druid and so everyone could stealth. Admittedly any guild could have done this, but the fact that everyone roleplayed made it so much more fun when we decided to attack a Horde town at night instead of day so that we could stay hidden more easilly. Of course, it didn't affect the game mechanics, but I think it made it all seem so much more real.

On the note of your life sucking so badly that you have to pretend to be someone else online, maybe you should be asking yourself why you're online instead of living in real life. It's one and the same whether you Roleplay or not. It's not because your life sucks. It's just that it's more fun to Roleplay than not to do so. It adds an extra level of fun to the time you spend in-game.

[Mojache]

To be honest I don't mind either way. While RP servers would be better for emmersion, I think that if there were only Normal Servers, the RP community on those servers would tend to become closer (Because they'd prefer talking to other RPers). As Krort said, if you're playing an MMORPG, you're roleplaying to a certain level anyway. I think that the borderline between what people call an RPer and a non-RPer is emmersion. RPers prefer more emmersion and so they act and speak like their character would. It doesn't mean that they lead sorry lives and so try to escape. It's just that it's more entertaining to behave like your character would. After all, even if you don't RP, you're playing a game instead of leading your own life. So in a way, aren't we all escaping into a fantasy world?

As someone who's played on both RP and normal servers in various games, I can honestly say at the risk of being flamed that RP servers are much more fun. I first tried Roleplaying about 5 years ago when my friend introduced me to the concept of an RP server, and I've never looked back. If you've never tried RPing, give it an honest go. It's much more fun when you can really get into the spirit of the world of the game you're playing. Take something like world PvP. You can gank all you please, and it's good fun. But if you've ever tried Roleplaying while PvPing, it's much more fulfilling. I remember a few years ago while playing WoW (This was before I heard of DF of course), and I joined an RP guild based on a group of Assassins. Every member was a rogue or a druid and so everyone could stealth. Admittedly any guild could have done this, but the fact that everyone roleplayed made it so much more fun when we decided to attack a Horde town at night instead of day so that we could stay hidden more easilly. Of course, it didn't affect the game mechanics, but I think it made it all seem so much more real.

On the note of your life sucking so badly that you have to pretend to be someone else online, maybe you should be asking yourself why you're online instead of living in real life. It's one and the same whether you Roleplay or not. It's not because your life sucks. It's just that it's more fun to Roleplay than not to do so. It adds an extra level of fun to the time you spend in-game.


...Nice...

[Sgt. John Knock]

...Nice...

Thank you.

[Xerco]

i agree with that guy ^

[l1m1t3d inc]

if there was a roleplaying server there would be anti rpers trying to slaughter the real rpers and it would be mayhem.

[Sgt. John Knock]

if there was a roleplaying server there would be anti rpers trying to slaughter the real rpers and it would be mayhem.

Not really. considering it'd be an RP server, they'd be vastly outnumbered. Besides, the way most of the RP clans keep in contact, any anti-RPer would probably be put on a universal KoS list.

[Xez]

Roleplaying Servers don't work and I'm pretty sure that we're all going to be on one huge server, if you want to roleplay get the clans together and form a community don't just expect the game to do it all for you.

this

I enjoy RPing with non-RPers. It's always great fun. Back in my WoWing days, whenever someone would refer to something OOCly, I would go out of my way to follow the RP rules as much as possible. If its helping them with a quest, I'd say... walk to the location and use my RP gear for fighting, after annoying them for half an hour with "What do you mean, friend?".

"GOLD PLZ KK!"
"Excuse me?"
"CAN I HAV 1G PLZZ"
"I don't think I can understand you, friend. Try explaining slowly."
"OMG U FKING NOOB 1G OK LOOOL"
"You're not from around these parts, are you? Lucky for you, I'm interested in languages"
"OMG FFS 1G FKIN AHHH"
*Quits server*

Follow this example, my children :D

Also,
"Just dc/ed, back now"
"Excuse me? You what?
"Yeah, lost con"
"Uhmmm... *Pats head patronisingly* Have a very special day, you very special person..."

and this

[Wolfways]

pff, i for one would create a char on the "RP server" just to fuck around if they added a crapy rp server...

just keep all servers Normal, why shouldent anyone be able to RP on a server with pvpers?

also what would the diffirence be? should they remove the free pvp aswell?

RP server is THE worst idea sofar....

Why do you assume that RP = no PVP? RP is the only playstyle that encompases all the game content...PVE and PVP.
In UO i was a member of Shadowclan for a short time. They RP'd orcs and were 100% RP and 100% PVP.

Personally i'd prefer a RP server (same rules as other servers) so at least those who want to RP would know where to go.

[lordhuebi]

name enforcement is in

[Astaren]

I think roleplayers should be on the same server as the "casual" players, because of the fact that it should be the same thing for everyone. But im not really against a RP server

[Aragoni]

After playing on Defias Brotherhood server (EU-WoW) I'd be a sad panda if Darkfall Online doesn't have RP servers.

[Jonkar]

After playing on Defias Brotherhood server (EU-WoW) I'd be a sad panda if Darkfall Online doesn't have RP servers.

Dude, do you know the Shining Strand?

[Wolfcry]

Say no to RP servers.. *runs away*

[maskedtears]

Say no to RP servers.. *runs away*

If you don't RP it shouldn't matter. :)

[Wolfcry]

If you don't RP it shouldn't matter. :)

STFU! *Sprint/Healing Pot*

[Deja vu]

I played with the Shadow Clan Orcs on the SP shard of UO for about 1.5 years and I had alot of fun.

I question the need for an actual official Role Playing server how ever. I think that the DFO environment is a perfect place for a Roleplaying guild like any of the Blood Clan Orcs can thrive.

If some one comes up to you talking 1137 just treat them like they have gone mad and do what any good ork would do and put them out of there misery

[Jonkar]

I played with the Shadow Clan Orcs on the SP shard of UO for about 1.5 years and I had alot of fun.

I question the need for an actual official Role Playing server how ever. I think that the DFO environment is a perfect place for a Roleplaying guild like any of the Blood Clan Orcs can thrive.

If some one comes up to you talking 1137 just treat them like they have gone mad and do what any good ork would do and put them out of there misery

QFT.

Personally, if someone talks OOCly or in 1337sp34k to me, I'll just act is if he talked normal and respond In Character.

[Nehemia]

Why couldn't you answer normally to leetspeak text?

I don't see a point in this;

"OMFGZ HEAL ME PLX"

"Huh, excuse me, master dwarf, but could you repeat thou' honorable sentence?"


But I see point in this:

"OMFGZ HEAL ME PLX"

"Fuck off, will ya?"

[Jonkar]

Why couldn't you answer normally to leetspeak text?

I don't see a point in this;

"OMFGZ HEAL ME PLX"

"Huh, excuse me, master dwarf, but could you repeat thou' honorable sentence?"


But I see point in this:

"OMFGZ HEAL ME PLX"

"Fuck off, will ya?"


For the record, that's what I meant..

[Aragoni]

Dude, do you know the Shining Strand?

Yes. What about them?

[Marrik]

We don't know. Not that it matters, RP servers don't work anyway.

its true, 90% of people will never rp, even on rp servers.


but if theres rp servers, everybody who DOES will be there, so itd be better imo.

[Marrik]

pff, i for one would create a char on the "RP server" just to fuck around if they added a crapy rp server...

just keep all servers Normal, why shouldent anyone be able to RP on a server with pvpers?

also what would the diffirence be? should they remove the free pvp aswell?

RP server is THE worst idea sofar....

the only difference between rp and regular is that rp is designated 'rp' in the name of the server, genious.

every MMO isnt World of Warcraft.

[Aragoni]

the only difference between rp and regular is that rp is designated 'rp' in the name of the server, genious.

every MMO isnt World of Warcraft.

Stricter naming policies and such. You won't see characters named "Leetspeek" running around in an RP server.

[Jonkar]

Yes. What about them?

Quite some of my clan members (including me) have been in that guild. A handfull are still playing with those guys.

However it turned to shit nowadays.

[-Lolth-]

Why couldn't you answer normally to leetspeak text?

I don't see a point in this;

"OMFGZ HEAL ME PLX"

"Huh, excuse me, master dwarf, but could you repeat thou' honorable sentence?"


But I see point in this:

"OMFGZ HEAL ME PLX"

"Fuck off, will ya?"

Exactly.

[Tharkon Fargor]

As I see it a naming a RP server "RP server" is enough to help the community enormously by attracting roleplayers to that server and if some idiot comes and messes with us we'll just waste his ass. ( I do not need to mention RP-PvP as I expect no "light" versions of Darkfall).

At the same time Darkfall will be built like Eve and you can't have 2 freakin Eve servers...that's expensive. It's a cluster isn't it?

So I doubt there will be more than 1 server except the test server but we can sure hope.

[Barbarossa]

All of you should know by now, judging from the games you've all played that if you tag a server with an RP label, it's doomed to be be inhabited by a high percentage of non-RP types.

I played on UO Catskills for 5 years. It had no RP server tag, yet RP was alive, well and thriving even though there were a great deal of morons and cretins playing on that shard as well .

No matter what you deem a server to be, you will get assholes who go out of their way to ruin RP.

It's inevitable.

We always handled it this way. If someone RP's with you, you reciprocate and vice versa. If they are obvious k3wld00ds, griefers and PK's, handle them as they would you, i.e. kill them quick, loot them dry.

Don't waste good RP on these sorts. :sly:

`nuff said.

[Aragoni]

Quite some of my clan members (including me) have been in that guild. A handfull are still playing with those guys.

However it turned to shit nowadays.

Hehe, ok. Never managed to get a WoW character past 33 so I haven't been that active in the Defias Brotherhood RP community. :)

[Thardon]

I'd really like to see an RP server where all the policies are actively enforced, unlike WoW's sucky servers. But with DF's unique engine I doubt that it'd be needed to be honest, since we can just waste any 1337 kid who approaches us ( like Tharkon mentioned ). And I have to agree with Barbarossa aswell, everything with the "RP" tag seems to gain the attention of cretins and morons ( my WoW server is a great example of that )

[Tharkon Fargor]

We do not discuss WoW in polite company.

[Tenshaku]

Exactly. It doesn't work anyway. RP servers would be meaningless. Protect YOURSELF don't expect the game to put in systems for you for things your supposed to do yourself. Roleplay treating nonRP'ers like homicidal maniacs and obliterate them with your clan of likeminded people.

And yes I am a roleplayer. But not in the retarded stereotypical sense that annoys the crap out of me. More freeform practical roleplay.

[pyrow]

RP specific servers in my opinion always fail, there arent that many sole-RPers that play to have servers dedicated to roleplaying...

And by roleplaying I dont mean just walking around acting like you're a knight or wizard, I mean going into towns just to sit and roleplaying with your buddies... how is that fun? Dungeons and Dragons... *shivers*

I do roleplay but I dont play games JUST to roleplay, yes I -hate- people using leet speak and stuff, but hey, you can kill them and steal their gear and make them aggravated if it really bothers you that much.

[Tharkon Fargor]

Exactly. It doesn't work anyway. RP servers would be meaningless. Protect YOURSELF don't expect the game to put in systems for you for things your supposed to do yourself. Roleplay treating nonRP'ers like homicidal maniacs and obliterate them with your clan of likeminded people.

And yes I am a roleplayer. But not in the retarded stereotypical sense that annoys the crap out of me. More freeform practical roleplay.

I disagree.
RP Server work simply because the name "RP" will attract roleplayers even if nothing ellse is different. Roleplayers then need to be ready to hunt 1337 kiddoes out of their server if they disrespect the rules of conduct.

This is impossible in *** and that is why it ain't working.

[Serores]

When I tried wow, I was attracted to an RP tagged server for the purpose of RP... so obviously it worked with me... if you think the leet people are there to annoy rpers, then you are kinda right, but EVERY server WILL have a nice share of leet players.

[Tenshaku]

I hope not. There is no reason both cannot coexist. Just treat the nonRP'ers as people roleplaying as crazed lunatics =P

[Tharkon Fargor]

I hope not. There is no reason both cannot coexist. Just treat the nonRP'ers as people roleplaying as crazed lunatics =P

Yeah but a RP server would be quite nice because roleplayers often try to create a somewhat real society. With bad, good and neutral people but all with a sort of purpous. I think this is quite crucial in a sandbox game like Darkfall for it not to just become a massive FPS. And not a FPS MMORPG.

[Devant]

I am one of those guys that tasted pen and paper RPGs before digital ones. As of now, I carry ten years of roleplaying experiences, having passed more time arround the table than in front of the pc (considering my job, this means a lot).

A digital enviroment just is not the same. Surely, it can offer the tools for a great RP experience, and whether it was UO or WOW, it was fine. But it is vastly different.

Around a table, with a select few people, all immersed, the voice of the Master doing what graphics and sound cannot, it's just different (Having made people cry, puke or laugh heartily with just a bunch of dice and a sheet of paper, seems to prove that in effect.)

Having said that, roleplaying in a pc game is fine. There are other advantages, like massiveness (ok, I tried organizing an 8 hour long session with 15 or so persons but it went...bleh.), and graphics nowdays can help much more than they did ages past.

Having a dedicated server, in theory, serves as well as it sounds, but in practice, the majority of an RP server will be "half roleplaying", which barely is as good as it sounds. The only time I felt that spark with a pc game was in a private UO shard, with less than 50 characters, that logged in specific hours. (Unfortunately the administrator did not have even a minimal idea about his duties.) In WoW, surpsingly, even thought I tried two RP servers (one was PVP-RP), the only actual good experiences where with my main, in a pure PVP server.

Seeing that there will be only a single type of server, I think that a couple or more guilds will gather the majority of hardcore RPers, with the "half-RPs" enjoying the game as anyone, and grasping the oportunity to RP a bit when it arrises.

After all, whoever seeks to roleplay, will use that "search" button in the forums, and find a suitable guild. I tend to believe that if someone can actually speak coherently and play a pc game like DF, will not find it that hard to use the forums.

Now, about RPers in general. We do not suffer from any mental malady (well, most of us :P) except for what would be called "recreative anachronism". Taking a small pause from life and living in the shoes of someone else is not that bad. Most of us, read a book, played a game, or just saw a movie, and would so much love to be in the shoes of one or the other character. Roleplaying permits just that. To be someone you actually are not. This doesn't have to influence real life, and surely it doesn't make someone more "nerd" or "geeky" than he already is by sitting an all nighter in front of the screen killing virtual monster.

I think if a bunch of people kongegrate in a forum about a computer game, that has not yet been released, trying to learn as much about it, planning ahead of time what they will do once it is launched, and contemplating on what type of job would fit their schedule for raiding, partying or whatever, are already geeky enough. There is no meaning in trying to calculate the exact amount of geekiness of each one in here.

Now, let me change my robes of the magi 'cause I threw a slice of pizza on 'em. :P (actual quote from a LARPer friend :P)

[Cranson]

This topic has been well vetted but I figure I'll just say that a single global server is the way to go. I don't know what Aventurine is planning in that respect, but I sure hope its setup so that the server can have additional nodes put on to the cluster so that it scales as population grows. With everyone on the same server, everyone gets their wish.

If you don't like the looks of someone (or their name) or the way that they sound (zomg!), then don't associate with them. Unless you'd rather slay them, of course.

Everybody love everybody!

[Nirklars]

I would enjoy joining an RP server. Its not an enforcement, rather more as an encouraging of people with different interests to group together.

The key is intelligence.

Intelligence is when you know your surroundings and is able to make your choices based on them. Anywhere where people are involved there are no certainty. Roleplaying is no certainty and there will always be extremists on both sides of a public forum or community.

I welcome the idea of RP servers, if only to act as a pointer of people to gather. I don't mind any play style except the one that actually does harass you or in any way infringe your legal rights IN REAL LIFE.

In character, theres no mercy gents. Its a medieval world with the survival of the fittest.

RP-PvE in Darkfall doesn't exist. PvP-RP is more than plausible.

[Niraco]

Hail and well met.
I am curious as to whether things got worked out with regards to RP servers.
Are we going to have servers that are devoted to RP while keeping u17r4 1337 homiez outta teh world? It would certainly be nice to have servers devoted to more mature gameplay.
Any links to how RP will be handled would be appreciated. Thanks! :sly:

if you find someone beeing a 1337 hommie in this world, hit that big bad orc axe in his mouth, repeatedly if you can. And after he dies, kill him again and again and again and again. That will teach the orc ways in darkfall.

OOC make your own RP even in a non specialized RP server, if you are dedicated enough you will be taken seriousely. i have seen it and it works.

[illus10n]

ROLL TO FIND OUT IF U GET AN RP SERVER!!!!!! KEKEKE GIMMIE MORE MOUNTAIN DEW MOM! PLX THAX:bang::bang::bang::bang:

[Ripp]

/signed

I really hope they make one of the servers RP. :cool:

[Conq]

Eh, I'll /sign for an RP server as well.

I don't particularly care if other people roleplay with me or not I just want some form of moderation on player names. I don't want to face palm every time I cursor over someone to see the name "l33titz" or "pwnz3r69" or "McL0v31n" because I'll end up going to the emergency room from head trauma eventually.

ROLL TO FIND OUT IF U GET AN RP SERVER!!!!!! KEKEKE GIMMIE MORE MOUNTAIN DEW MOM! PLX THAX:bang::bang::bang::bang:

The little kid "illus10n" up there kinda makes my point

[Shillelagh]

This thread is tasting more like general discussion than RP.

There was some good posts but time to put the thread to bed