Darkfall in Australia?

[sucram]

Does anyone know if it has been confirmed where darkfall will be released and if so will it be released in Australia?

[Nackl of Gilmed]

I think it'll be available for download purchase anywhere

[Kheiron]

Does anyone know if it has been confirmed where darkfall will be released and if so will it be released in Australia?

We dont even know how yet. Likely, it'll come with a digital download option, so that'll mean yes. If all else fails, you can order a copy in.

[Gestas]

I am from Sydney, Australia.

If it lags here i will get T3.

need to be on an equal playing field, do not want to be gimped cause of country, lets just hope the netcode optimizations are nothing short of fantastic lol.

[Wufiavelli]

thought i was gonna get some cool comparison of the darkfall map to australia

kinda disapointed

[Valroth]

Lots of Australians here on the DF boards.

All we can do is hope for the best. :)

[Slisk]

I think we'll be gimped until we get the new fibre-optic broadband network Rudd promised. I have the best connection I can get here in Perth and my pings for US and Europe are always 300+ Usually more for europe.

[Bloodgloom]

Rumor has it that the game will be released in Australia but you will have to play it upside down.

They haven't confirmed how many servers there will be at launch or where they will be located, but the seem to intend for at least a semi-global launch, the game is designed in English, but they've mentioned that they have plans for localization.
May, 2005 quote:
MMORPG.com: (Secmanx) What countries are you planning on releasing the game in?

Darkfall Team: The game will be released in N. America and Europe. Right now we don't see a reason to limit its release to specific countries, but there are certain issues to consider in distribution and publishing that we're still working through. There has also been much discussion about localization for certain markets but we don't want that to limit access for any group of players.

There has also been considerable interest in Darkfall by Asian publishers but there is currently no final plan to publish Darkfall in Asia. That said, our goal is to bring Darkfall to the broadest audience possible.

This quote by Ricki is a bit older Dev Quotes #4 (2003) but still may be relevant:
4.10. Localization
Darkfall is being built with localization issues in mind. We have put all the relevant text in separate language classes that can easily be exchanged. At the moment we have only created English files, since we don't feel like translating the pre-alpha. But yes, localization has been thought of, and is designed into the game. Actual text presentation rules (for differing grammar and key-word placement) is being looked at too.

[Ryo]

don't worry it will atleast be awaileble for direct download on the internet, im 99% sure that's a fact :cool:

[Gestas]

upside down aye... looks like ill be making the sky rain fire muahhahahaha

[Slaker]

Good luck Australian peoples!

[End Dream]

digital distro world wide

[Uzik]

Why would they sell it in Australia? I thought you people were only interested in Kangaroos and Vegemite.

[Deja vu]

I understand. I know that there was a debate on who would get the servers. The major choises where east coast USA and Various places in Europe.

[sucram]

Why would they sell it in Australia? I thought you people were only interested in Kangaroos and Vegemite.

Hes on to us

[Carl Ragadamn]

Why would they sell it in Australia? I thought you people were only interested in Kangaroos and Vegemite.

Hes on to us

Its not that big of a leap, since everyone knows thats all there is in Australia.

[Tanitha]

Its available for digital downloads so its released everywhere.
Just means I will get release 1-2 days later (After i download it) compared to the Americans. :P

And yes, I'm used to being gimped in PvP with high pings. nothing new.
Especially being in a small 800 pop country-town with 512k down 128k up, adsl.

But about Australian servers. Please don't give us one.
Insomniax clan is currently about 60% Australian members, and even if there was a Australian server we wouldn't play on it.

Australian servers always end up under populated, with the game population only being online in the peak after work period.

Games like this need a 24 hour time zone coverage. And with us being 60% Australian atm, the majority of players we recruit after release will be American, so we will end up with a nice 24 hour player spread.

We are looking forward to burning the American clan's cities every night.

[Howler]

Does anyone know if it has been confirmed where darkfall will be released and if so will it be released in Australia?

If they have it in Greece, America, Netherlands, etc, you can expect it in Australia.

[Spart]

I am from Sydney, Australia.

If it lags here i will get T3.

need to be on an equal playing field, do not want to be gimped cause of country, lets just hope the netcode optimizations are nothing short of fantastic lol.

I've got ADSL2+ and sadly it doesn't help as much as you would hope. However, for the most part that probably is just down to our sub-par internet rather than the distance to the server (although that would contribute).

[Valroth]

Its available for digital downloads so its released everywhere.
Just means I will get release 1-2 days later (After i download it) compared to the Americans. :P

And yes, I'm used to being gimped in PvP with high pings. nothing new.
Especially being in a small 800 pop country-town with 512k down 128k up, adsl.

But about Australian servers. Please don't give us one.
Insomniax clan is currently about 60% Australian members, and even if there was a Australian server we wouldn't play on it.

Australian servers always end up under populated, with the game population only being online in the peak after work period.

Games like this need a 24 hour time zone coverage. And with us being 60% Australian atm, the majority of players we recruit after release will be American, so we will end up with a nice 24 hour player spread.

We are looking forward to burning the American clan's cities every night.

You'll be surprised and probably saddened to know that sieges in Darkfall cannot happen on the fly, there will be a period (probably 24 hrs) in which the defending clan chooses the time of the siege. So no burning cities in the wee hours of the morning sorry.

I'll be happy as soon as a new backbone to America is put in place. Currently, Aussie pings to America are way too high for a game like DF in my opinion.

[End Dream]

Hes on to us

this was a true lol moment for me

[dirtknap]

Its not that big of a leap, since everyone knows thats all there is in Australia.

You mean like the only thing there is in the US is fast food chains and fat people? ;-)

Regardless of net code optimisations, aussies (that's pronounced 'Ozzies' for you US folks) are always going to be partially screwed by high latency, regardless of how much bandwidth you have. the best we can hope for is advanced prediction code to lessen the effects of high latency.

[BladeSLicer]

You'll be surprised and probably saddened to know that sieges in Darkfall cannot happen on the fly, there will be a period (probably 24 hrs) in which the defending clan chooses the time of the siege. So no burning cities in the wee hours of the morning sorry.

I'll be happy as soon as a new backbone to America is put in place. Currently, Aussie pings to America are way too high for a game like DF in my opinion.

I'm personally hoping it's a time that is voted on by both guilds, as if it is a set amount of time that passes before the siege, you simply need do a little math (such as attacking at 8 pm if it takes 36 hours, or attacking at 4 am if it takes 24 hours) to still pull a "wee hours of the morning" attack that most people won't attend.

We'll have to wait and see how they deal with it though. :p

[LazyAmy]

I donno, do we even let Austrailia have internet? I thought we just set them up a fake world wide web filled with porn to keep them occupied until we could dig a hole in the middle of their country and sink it into the Pacific.

-LA

[BladeSLicer]

I donno, do we even let Austrailia have internet? I thought we just set them up a fake world wide web filled with porn to keep them occupied until we could dig a hole in the middle of their country and sink it into the Pacific.

-LA

Shh, a few broadband companies betrayed us, don't leak our secret!!

[Tais]

You'll be surprised and probably saddened to know that sieges in Darkfall cannot happen on the fly, there will be a period (probably 24 hrs) in which the defending clan chooses the time of the siege. So no burning cities in the wee hours of the morning sorry.

I'll be happy as soon as a new backbone to America is put in place. Currently, Aussie pings to America are way too high for a game like DF in my opinion.

Yeah but that new pipe to America wont be around for who knows how many years :(

In the meantime we put up with pins of 200-220 to West US and 250-300 to East US, europe is far higher.

[Ammon777]

They have computers in Australia? Well... I'll be flabbergasted.

[Mr.LichTwitch]

Which way does the water spin when you flush the toilet in Australia? Clockwise or counter-clockwise?

[squrrilslayer]

They have computers in Australia? Well... I'll be flabbergasted.

:bang: YES we DO!

Quadcore 2.4Ghz proc intel
2gb ram
1tb hd
512mb nvideo 8800gt gpu
750w psu
780i evga mobo

http://www.speedtest.net/result/246200077.png
http://www.speedtest.net/result/246200660.png

hrmph.... die evil usa idiots who still believe get get around in skippy's pouch!

[sucram]

:bang: YES we DO!



hrmph.... die evil usa idiots who still believe we get around in skippy's pouch!

Yes...how silly...I certainly dont do that...

[Dojo]

They have computers in Australia? Well... I'll be flabbergasted.

/slap

Yep as Tan has said already.. no Oz server needed.. why should DFO break the mould. We are used to a life as MMO'ers playing on US and E servers and expect that this will be no different.

Our lag just makes us better at what we do and more determined.. :)

[Spart]

I donno, do we even let Austrailia have internet? I thought we just set them up a fake world wide web filled with porn to keep them occupied until we could dig a hole in the middle of their country and sink it into the Pacific.

-LA

You don't have to do that, we are quite happily doing it ourselves.

Which way does the water spin when you flush the toilet in Australia? Clockwise or counter-clockwise?

We don't have toilets. That is far too advanced for us.

[Tanitha]

You'll be surprised and probably saddened to know that sieges in Darkfall cannot happen on the fly, there will be a period (probably 24 hrs) in which the defending clan chooses the time of the siege. So no burning cities in the wee hours of the morning sorry.


Thanks for the reply.

And I'm not sure what the system is like really.
I know there is delays on destroying cities, but I dont think there is on taking them over.

Because I remember reading about multiple notification systems, such as Darkfall messaging your mobile. If your attacked.

If the defending clan got to pick the time of the fight, 24 hours later, Darkfall wouldn't need to urgently message peoples mobiles.

So no i don't literally think you can burn cities down overnight, but i do think you can take them over while the owning clan is sleeping.

[sucram]

Yep as Tan has said already.. no Oz server needed.. why should DFO break the mould. We are used to a life as MMO'ers playing on US and E servers and expect that this will be no different.

Our lag just makes us better at what we do and more determined.. :)

If what we do is rage out at our ping and cry then yes it makes us better :)

[Spart]

Thanks for the reply.

And I'm not sure what the system is like really.
I know there is delays on destroying cities, but I dont think there is on taking them over.

Because I remember reading about multiple notification systems, such as Darkfall messaging your mobile. If your attacked.

If the defending clan got to pick the time of the fight, 24 hours later, Darkfall wouldn't need to urgently message peoples mobiles.

So no i don't literally think you can burn cities down overnight, but i do think you can take them over while the owning clan is sleeping.

Actually I think he is right. I believe in one of the updates they said you couldn't just randomly launch an assault, and I think that is where the Gloomer comes in. But I don't know how it works.

Just be assured that it will fuck over Aussies.

[squrrilslayer]

aussie gamers compensate high ping with skill.
on exteel, i easily come 2nd or 3rd (out of 16) in the round despite pings of over 250!

[Tanitha]

Actually I think he is right. I believe in one of the updates they said you couldn't just randomly launch an assault, and I think that is where the Gloomer comes in. But I don't know how it works.

Just be assured that it will fuck over Aussies.

Yes lol but things change. for example, the gloomer, is now out. :P

[Tanitha]

Actually I think he is right. I believe in one of the updates they said you couldn't just randomly launch an assault, and I think that is where the Gloomer comes in. But I don't know how it works.

Just be assured that it will fuck over Aussies.

Some quotes.. all containing not much info ..

25 Jan 2008 Dev Q&A
You can break down the city a building a day or a building section (for fortifications) a day. Of course it's not efficient to do that when you could keep the city you conquered.

12 Spet 2006 IGN Darkfall Peek 29.
"3am Raids" - There is an exciting sequence of events that has to do with laying siege to a town. Besides this being a fun process, rest assured that nobody will be caught unawares.

No Dates FAQ
Quote (Claus): Darkfall is not so much about "play to crush" - "play to have fun" is my favorite Darkfall mantra. We are aware of the problems and pains involved with city siege and capture. We are testing out several setups, trying to make it worthwhile for the attacker, without hurting the defenders so much that they can never get back up on their feet again after loosing a city. We will not limit capture, but we may limit destruction of structures to some degree. Meaning we may allow the attacker to burn down a few structures if they so desire, but not everything. Normally one or more clans that own a city will be quite a few people. And game mechanics will make the takeover of a city a non-trivial thing that takes time. This makes it easier to alert the people that belong to the city, so that they come to the defense.

What if I am not online when someone besieges my city?
Quote (Ricki): Interesting idea, however we think it’ll be better to just use NPC hireling guards to protect your town. You also have the option of choosing a rude awakening available to you since we’re planning several ways through which you can be notified when your city is under attack.....A city will also have some kind of defense, i.e. a city wall /castle, so you can defend it against attackers

The highlighted bits, is what leads me to believe you can take a city overnight while the other clan sleeps.

[Tanitha]

Yes lol but things change. for example, the gloomer, is now out. :P

Heres the quotes for this.
Sorry ,, you cant edit a previous post after about 5 mins.


Curse Q&A. 15 march 2007

1) Is the Gloomer system still in? Do we need it to weaken the clanstone of an enemy city, so we can proceed to destroying enemy walls and structures?

The gloomer isn't in the game in its original form. The concept remains but has been added on and improved. The attackers need to protect their assets and their challenge shard - which isn't stationary anymore but in the hands of a clan leader. While in possession of the challenge shard, the holder is a bleep on the defender's and attacker's maps and global messages are issued. He cannot use magical means of transportation, and his clan has to protect him while the defenders and allies need to kill him within the allotted time in order to break the siege. There are other ways to break the siege, by taking attacker territories, or defending your clan stone.

8) How long does a siege usually take?

A siege can last several hours, depending on how evenly the opponents measure up. There is a time limit when the siege effort fails.

13) What prevents or discourages "Ninja Raiding", aka 3 am raids on your city while everyone is asleep? Will NPC guards play an important role in this aspect of the game?

There is a process which takes a while to be able to begin the siege, it's not instant. Also, universal messages are issued and the attacker's assets all go vulnerable for a certain time. Allies are alerted, enemies are alerted, the 3am raid may not be the optimal time for a clan to try to attack and defend at the same time. There is also out-of-game messaging, so the clan which is being attacked can be alerted. City defenses can be spawned by few defenders, and the guards will also help in fighting back. If all else fails, the defenders always have the option to mount a counter-attack to take back their city.

[AlmostLife]

I hope it comes out there. I love Australia. :)

[Temur]

hrmph.... die evil usa idiots who still believe get get around in skippy's pouch!

haahha so you are saying you used to do that but not anymore? I dont know about you but ive always walked or driven a car.

My ping isnt too bad with ADSL2 to US west servers. 100-150 at the max coming from the heart of Sydney. More then bearable. Remember Darkfalls server system is built specifically for the game with overseas players in mind, maybe we will see much better numbers then in most games. Didnt they say Japan to greece or whatever at <100 ping.

[Voodoo Hoodoo]

A very easy way to pretty much halve your ping is to use a proxy server. If you want more info, please pm me.

I'm in Perth, Western Australia and my ping halved. From 650+ to 300-350 playing WoW. It makes a huge difference in any sort of PvP.

[Dreadknought]

/slap

Yep as Tan has said already.. no Oz server needed.. why should DFO break the mould. We are used to a life as MMO'ers playing on US and E servers and expect that this will be no different.

Our lag just makes us better at what we do and more determined.. :)

Maybe if you Australians started making more babies instead of eating them (ya thats right you overthrew America as the most obese nation) companies would start paying more attention to you guys because then you would have such a huge playerbase!

[Dr Who]

Maybe if you Australians started making more babies instead of eating them (ya thats right you overthrew America as the most obese nation) companies would start paying more attention to you guys because then you would have such a huge playerbase!

wow that is big news...

[Dreadknought]

wow that is big news...

Ya saw it in OT, twas really sad. Us Americans got eat twice the amount of babies now!

[Glue Gun]

wow that is big news...

is the word BIG an innuendo?

[Dreadknought]

is the word BIG an innuendo?

You just blew my vocab out of the water!

[Foxodi]

A server in indonesia would be pretty good actually; could serve asia and oceanic regions. And Psst we need bigger population, we fill 8 wow servers and then some :D

[Spart]

A server in indonesia would be pretty good actually; could serve asia and oceanic regions. And Psst we need bigger population, we fill 8 wow servers and then some :D

Why the fuck would you have it in Indonesia?

[Temur]

Maybe if you Australians started making more babies instead of eating them (ya thats right you overthrew America as the most obese nation) companies would start paying more attention to you guys because then you would have such a huge playerbase!

I got a laugh out of this. Its true, the fat people here have taken over the fat people there.:D

Spart, he said why. Get off your horse.

[BlackVolgan]

Aussie Aussie Aussie!

[Dreadknought]

I got a laugh out of this. Its true, the fat people here have taken over the fat people there.:D

Spart, he said why. Get off your horse.

So uh you wanna link me in ur sig yet? Lol jk.

[Foxodi]

Why the fuck would you have it in Indonesia?

Because its between Australia and Asia? :o Allowing for better pings for a larger playerbase; which is kinda needed since Australia DF fans can't fill a server on their own.

[Temur]

Sorry Dreadnought I dont do the link in sig to quote thing. Too internet geeky for me, Im here to play a game and try to stay away from the inter-geek-culture as much as possible. :)

Dont bother Foxodi, anyone who would snap like that is not going to listen to reason.

[Dreadknought]

Sorry Dreadnought I dont do the link in sig to quote thing. Too internet geeky for me, Im here to play a game and try to stay away from the inter-geek-culture as much as possible. :)

Dont bother Foxodi, anyone who would snap like that is not going to listen to reason.

God damn and I was just about to pull out a 20 year old scotch bottle :(.

[Temur]

God damn and I was just about to pull out a 20 year old scotch bottle :(.

Maybe next time bud. Save the scotch for a real special occasion:).

[Erillian]

God damn and I was just about to pull out a 20 year old scotch bottle :(.

save untill release

[Jayaris]

save untill release

Mmmm 60 year old scotch..

[Erillian]

Mmmm 60 year old scotch..

yes that gets real tasty;)

[Baenor]

I am from Sydney, Australia.

If it lags here i will get T3.

need to be on an equal playing field, do not want to be gimped cause of country, lets just hope the netcode optimizations are nothing short of fantastic lol.

Since when does your internet connection improve your ping?

[Etrurian_Akab]

I think they're speaking with some Asian producers, so may be you will see an asian server; you can play there if you can pass through the problem of the language. I'm sure you can have a not bad ping playing from Australia in a japanese or chinese server.

[Scor]

im from Australia do any of you think lag to US servers will affect our gameplay?

[AlmostLife]

im from Australia do any of you think lag to US servers will affect our gameplay?

Maybe... If your using a US server you can walk up and own em' while there lagged up. If your not lagged up of corse.

[Foxodi]

Considering its fps combat, I think the lag will affect gameplay a fair bit :/

[Temur]

Mmmm 60 year old scotch..

:lmao: Cant believe I missed this. Darkfall, beta release, sometime 2048.

[Sidius]

A server in indonesia would be pretty good actually; could serve asia and oceanic regions. And Psst we need bigger population, we fill 8 wow servers and then some :D

A server deriving from Indoneasia would be amazing, not just for us Aussies, but the general whole oceanic area. Im a fan!