View Full Version : Gold Farmers sued in class action lawsuit
Ammon777
06-02-2007, 09:51 AM
Gold farmers IGE and Peons for Hire get sued by Blizzard and by some individual.
Note that IGE has two offices in United States.
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=14169
It would be so much cooler if the lawsuits wouldn't be solved by lawyers and judges but by private armies.
I wonder which mistake they found by those companies that lets them sue them, you'd think that IGE was careful not to do anything that might get someone to sue them.
Ammon777
06-02-2007, 09:55 AM
They are suing them for gold farming in violation of terms of use clause. It is also unlawful business practices, according to the lawsuit.
Idura
06-02-2007, 09:56 AM
:search::search:
Theres a thread about this that was posted yesterday.
Ammon777
06-02-2007, 09:57 AM
:search::search:
Theres a thread about this that was posted yesterday.
Really? Oh, my apologies.
Must have been posted while I was asleep, but its already 2nd paged? That thread must have sucked.
Idura
06-02-2007, 10:01 AM
Really? Oh, my apologies.
No no, my apologies good sir, fourth page in forumfall is as good as deleted.
Heres the thread btw
http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=36011
PainlessDeath
06-02-2007, 11:16 AM
It would be so much cooler if the lawsuits wouldn't be solved by lawyers and judges but by private armies.
I wonder which mistake they found by those companies that lets them sue them, you'd think that IGE was careful not to do anything that might get someone to sue them.
Careful?? They flagrantly violate the ToS. The ability to sue has always been there. The only question is why wouldnt a company "like" Blizzard file themselves. (IMO) They dont want players to have any ownership rights to their characters beyond the subscription fee.
It doesnt appear, by the complaint, that is the intent of the complainant, but anything is possible when the judge starts talking.
Razel
06-02-2007, 11:27 AM
Gold farmers IGE and Peons for Hire get sued by Blizzard and by some individual.
Note that IGE has two offices in United States.
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=14169
while thats good to see and might set a precedence its wows own fault for making it so carebear
Ammon777
06-02-2007, 12:14 PM
while thats good to see and might set a precedence its wows own fault for making it so carebear
Yup.
Razel
06-02-2007, 12:18 PM
You guys sure have a lot of fucking meanings and uses for the word "carebear."
Kind of like my favorite word: fuck. You can fucken use "fuck" in any fucken way you fucken want, god fucken damnit. Fuck. I mean, for fuck's sake.
ok hows this, if the players could control the farmers there wouldnt be a problem, e.g. ffa servers, or risk reward on the pve servers. I always try to put blame where it belongs and this one is clearly the devs and wows fault. Unfortunately until we get rid of the 'fat loot' attitude games will not change for the better.
Ammon777
06-02-2007, 12:19 PM
Yeah, they should get out of the MUD-mentality and get making games more like DFO.
Barbarossa
06-02-2007, 02:30 PM
Yeah, they should get out of the MUD-mentality and get making games more like DFO.
I agree.
A 10-20 year dry spell of no MMO's would fix those dirty gold farmers real good. Why they'd have to close up shop and go back to killing stray cats and dogs in alleys for chinese buffets again. The General Tsao Fluffy and Fido meal hasn't been quite as tasty since the gold farmers proliferated, they've been using chicken in it.
10-20 years provided all MMO's moved along as slowly as DFO has...
ok i'll ask a dumb question, but there are no dumb questions , only dumb answers, right?
whats the problem with gold farmers?
one reason i could think of, they increase the cost of items bought from other players, because it's in their interest to make them more expensive.
tbh i was considering to hire a few chinese or indian people (well anyone who will work for 2$ / week)
epicor
08-25-2008, 06:54 PM
I, for one, hope, this type of crap doesnt happen in DFO. Economics is gonna be important, but with the ungrindyness we should get i dont think it will be too much of an issue.
necro
Weeking
08-25-2008, 07:03 PM
As old as dirty diapers:"June 1, 2007"
I wish China cut all internet by removing the infrastructure instead of trying to censor it. But with gold farming already being a huge industry there, it's not very likely to say the least.
epicor
08-25-2008, 07:06 PM
As old as dirty diapers:"June 1, 2007"
I wish China cut all internet by removing the infrastructure instead of trying to censor it. But with gold farming already being a huge industry there, it's not very likely to say the least.
damnit, first reponse caught the necro. was hoping for atleast 2 or 3
Tharkon Fargor
08-25-2008, 07:08 PM
Wow...there's actually fucking offices for this? <Sigh>
grateful_dead
08-25-2008, 07:10 PM
posting about blizzard? i wonder if i should care to read the first post.
Marrik
08-25-2008, 07:27 PM
I, for one, hope, this type of crap doesnt happen in DFO. Economics is gonna be important, but with the ungrindyness we should get i dont think it will be too much of an issue.
necro
why would goldfarmers come to a niche game where everybody can kill them?
there wouldnt be many customers compared to other MMO's, and a large percentage of the players that ARE here would kill them every chance they get, even if they dont realize that they are goldfarmers.
Tharkon Fargor
08-25-2008, 07:28 PM
ya lol. Don't worry. It can't happen in DF. You can just make a couple of noob chars, come and kill em. Even if they've payed mercenaries to protect them.
holychicken
08-25-2008, 07:39 PM
ok hows this, if the players could control the farmers there wouldnt be a problem, e.g. ffa servers, or risk reward on the pve servers. I always try to put blame where it belongs and this one is clearly the devs and wows fault. Unfortunately until we get rid of the 'fat loot' attitude games will not change for the better.
Eve has a problem with farmers and that's pretty much FFA.
To think that a FFA system would stop gold farming is just not based in reality, it is just based in a irrational hatred of all things WoW.
holychicken
08-25-2008, 07:40 PM
I, for one, hope, this type of crap doesnt happen in DFO. Economics is gonna be important, but with the ungrindyness we should get i dont think it will be too much of an issue.
If you can buy things with gold, it WILL be an issue.
Forgin
08-25-2008, 07:42 PM
ok i'll ask a dumb question, but there are no dumb questions , only dumb answers, right?
whats the problem with gold farmers?
one reason i could think of, they increase the cost of items bought from other players, because it's in their interest to make them more expensive.
tbh i was considering to hire a few chinese or indian people (well anyone who will work for 2$ / week)
It fucks up the economy, but also and probably more important to most:
I'd gives gold buyers an advantage over others (in gear based games) because they can buy the best gear without putting any effort in them, this way, the people with much money IRL have an adventage while the whole point of a MMO is to provide a second live, undependent of RL.
I would be pissed off too if some noob who has playing a game for 1 hour has a max lvl char with uber gear while I haven't after playing for years.
Forgin
08-25-2008, 07:43 PM
The best way to counter goldfarmers is to do what Turbine/CM did with LotrO. Don't allow ANY asian IP to play the game, it worked really well. I only encountered 1 goldfarmer in the 1.5 years I played.
Corpse
08-25-2008, 07:44 PM
The best way to counter goldfarmers is to do what Turbine/CM did with LotrO. Don't allow ANY asian IP to play the game, it worked really well. I only encountered 1 goldfarmer in the 1.5 years I played.
yeah, but who would want to farm/sell gold on that shitty game anyway? lulz.
holychicken
08-25-2008, 07:46 PM
The best way to counter goldfarmers is to do what Turbine/CM did with LotrO. Don't allow ANY asian IP to play the game, it worked really well. I only encountered 1 goldfarmer in the 1.5 years I played.
Uh, doesn't look all that hard to buy gold for that game:
http://www.google.com/search?q=buy+gold+LOTRO&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
Sigler
08-25-2008, 07:58 PM
ohhh that's gonna suck haha
Lethn
08-25-2008, 07:59 PM
Frankly I hope that the gold farmers go ahead and destroy those shitty games so gamers will remember that grinding isn't fucking fun.
Dwhap
08-25-2008, 08:13 PM
while thats good to see and might set a precedence its wows own fault for making it so carebear
Exactly!! Gold farming in DF will be very difficult since they will be nothing more then prey for the rest of us.
kordoyn
08-25-2008, 08:15 PM
Find gold farmer
Follow farmer around
Kill farmer
??
Profit?
holychicken
08-25-2008, 08:47 PM
Exactly!! Gold farming in DF will be very difficult since they will be nothing more then prey for the rest of us.
If there is money to be made and gold is something useful in DFO, the farmers will find away. Your desire to play the game is never going to compete with their desire to make money.
If anything, it will just make gold more expensive to buy. It has nothing to do with how carebear or hardcore the game is.
This is old news.
I doubt anything will come of it though.
Ghostpaw
08-25-2008, 10:08 PM
The best way to counter goldfarmers is to do what Turbine/CM did with LotrO. Don't allow ANY asian IP to play the game, it worked really well. I only encountered 1 goldfarmer in the 1.5 years I played.
What about legitimate asian players?
pyrow
08-25-2008, 10:13 PM
Haha nice, IGE blows. I saw this thing somewhere about it, and the gold farmers in china said they know IGE is one of the major people who buy their gold. And then some spokesperson for IGE said "no we dont"
lulz
epicor
08-25-2008, 10:22 PM
you guys know this was a necro right?
Corpse
08-25-2008, 10:23 PM
you guys know this was a necro right?
No, Wow fail.
Tharkon Fargor
08-25-2008, 10:24 PM
you guys know this was a necro right?
Necroing r0x
Slypieguy
08-25-2008, 10:28 PM
you guys know this was a necro right?
Infract this man.
epicor
08-25-2008, 10:34 PM
LOL i said it TWICE in my posts.
Corpse
08-25-2008, 10:36 PM
LOL i said it TWICE in my posts.
I didn't read them tbh.
epicor
08-25-2008, 10:38 PM
dude, srsly corpse, i hate your sig. i really really hate it.
hawt v ^nawt
Corpse
08-25-2008, 10:40 PM
dude, srsly corpse, i hate your sig. i really really hate it.
hawt v ^nawt
I knew you were blaming it on your wife.
But really its you!
I love it.I change it for noone!
Why do you hate it? Nightmares?
epicor
08-25-2008, 10:42 PM
no my wife hates it too, but she thinks its gross, i thinks its gross and distracting. im all the time scanning along and them bam! gross im my face /bleh. If i make you a nice corpsalicious one would you consider changing it?
Corpse
08-25-2008, 10:43 PM
no my wife hates it too, but she thinks its gross, i thinks its gross and distracting. im all the time scanning along and them bam! gross im my face /bleh. If i make you a nice corpsalicious one would you consider changing it?
NAYVER.
This was made by the great "Nasty".
I shall cherish it always.
I guess if you really cant stand it, there is the ignore poster option.
Was going to offer this to a certain other person earlier.
epicor
08-25-2008, 10:46 PM
nah, as a poster i dont mind you at all. just the image is a bit shocking when im not expecting it. though i could /report im not gonna, that would be gay. btw wtf reported jangjang for his seal of awsome GTFO whoever you are.
Barbarossa
08-25-2008, 10:46 PM
What about legitimate asian players?
Is there such a thing? I don't think so...
you guys know this was a necro right?
They do but they don't care. It's a +1 and that's all that matters.
Corpse
08-25-2008, 10:48 PM
nah, as a poster i dont mind you at all. just the image is a bit shocking when im not expecting it. though i could /report im not gonna, that would be gay. btw wtf reported jangjang for his seal of awsome GTFO whoever you are.
I dont see how you could report it To be honest, its not a real decaying human body.
Its a zombie from Lucio Fulci's "ZOMBIE".
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i187/siteofthelivingzombie/zombie.jpg
epicor
08-25-2008, 10:48 PM
Is there such a thing? I don't think so...
They do but they don't care. It's a +1 and that's all that matters.
yeah right, i get +5 to necro
Barbarossa
08-25-2008, 10:51 PM
yeah right, i get +5 to necro
Look at the bright side.
At least your boob sig doesn't look like someone's ass cheeks...
epicor
08-25-2008, 10:54 PM
lol somone else pointed that out. i didnt see it at first, but when you focus kinda, through it, it does. i showed my wife and she thought it was funny too. so now imo, its kinda more of a funny sig than a hawt sig.
Barbarossa
08-25-2008, 10:57 PM
lol somone else pointed that out. i didnt see it at first, but when you focus kinda, through it, it does. i showed my wife and she thought it was funny too. so now imo, its kinda more of a funny sig than a hawt sig.
Dude I was being serious.
Black Volgans' sig looks like a big orange A-S-S.
epicor
08-25-2008, 10:58 PM
Dude I was being serious.
Black Volgans' sig looks like a big orange A-S-S.
oh haha, but in volgans you can see nip. kinda look through the monitor and you will see what im talking about on mine. try to focus on the wall behind you screen and the white shirt looks like a wall, and the red bra looks like pants pulled down.
@corpse - i made a sig for axelator that came out ok, you sure i cant convice you to try somthing new?
Corpse
08-25-2008, 11:08 PM
oh haha, but in volgans you can see nip. kinda look through the monitor and you will see what im talking about on mine. try to focus on the wall behind you screen and the white shirt looks like a wall, and the red bra looks like pants pulled down.
@corpse - i made a sig for axelator that came out ok, you sure i cant convice you to try somthing new?
*Shakes Magic 8-Ball*
"My sources say no."
epicor
08-25-2008, 11:20 PM
well your sources smoke entirely too much weed and ima make you a kickass sig anyway. you might not use it, but photoshop is fun.
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