Podcast

[Resfelm]

SUN's Frank Sinatra took the time to participate in a podcast at mmoSmacktalk.com. Find out all about it here (http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=305824).

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Can someone from AV took the time to do a podcast ?

[Nat daprat]

Can someone from AV took the time to do a podcast ?

This!

[Belteyn]

A point that Frank made that is probably true is that AV have nothing to say as they want to say it all as part of a grand DF2 release. HOWEVER, at the same time this complete lack of information may work for AV, all it does is build up anger and frustration from an existing loyal playerbase that feels cheated.

I wish they would just be upfront with their future plans, a rough timescale, and exactly what their plans are for DF1. Yes there is a danger of them loosing remaining subscriptions on DF1 if bother servers will be killed, BUT there is also a danger of them loosing just as many subscriptions if they say nothing! Tell us DF1 had 12 months tops after which new game will be launched, and then maybe encourage people to stay on DF1 servers until then with some regular events, perhaps a reduced subscription cost, faster xp gain, and finally a guarantee that subs from DF1 to DF2 will cost less, or that some sort of bonus will exist in DF2 for those that were subbed in DF1 before DF2 came out. i.e. give some further incentives for players to remain subbed on DF1 or even invite some temporary new subs, all t help keep AV's coffers topped up just enough to ensure we actually get a DF2.

[Mad Dog]

My self I've just stopped playing completely because I have no clue what's going on with DF1 or DF2. Its left me feeling cheated tbh.

As soon as my sub runs out it wont get renewed till I have all the information on wtf AV is up to. And even then if they give me all the information i need to make a decision if I'll resub.

I'll probably just wait and see if there bullshitting me again

[Tedium]

AV have placed such a strict NDA on them selves that any pod cast would be very short. Its not like anyone else is forcing them to keep their mouth shut.
AV just tell us what is going on!

[ZtyX]

Seriously?

SERIOUSLY?

You post about Frank Sinatra's podcast?

I COULD CARE LESS!! WHERE IS THE INFORMATION ABOUT PLAYER EVENTS?
WHERE ARE MORE GM LIVE EVENTS?
WHERE IS AV'S COMMUNICATION!???!?!

Can someone from AV took the time to do a podcast ?

EXACTLY!

Cause Tasos and rest of Av are cowards. They don't have the courage to face their community! They never had!

[Brother Justin]

Seriously?

SERIOUSLY?

You post about Frank Sinatra's podcast?

I COULD CARE LESS!! WHERE IS THE INFORMATION ABOUT PLAYER EVENTS?
WHERE ARE MORE GM LIVE EVENTS?
WHERE IS AV'S COMMUNICATION!???!?!



EXACTLY!

Cause Tasos and rest of Av are cowards. They don't have the courage to face their community! They never had!

I suggested they post the cast so people could see it.

This is a pretty good interview and the more that see it the better.

This section is for spotlighting stuff just like this. Stuff from the community.

Calm down.

[Makgyver]

Can someone from AV took the time to do a podcast ?

This

[yesus]

Seriously?

SERIOUSLY?

You post about Frank Sinatra's podcast?

I COULD CARE LESS!! WHERE IS THE INFORMATION ABOUT PLAYER EVENTS?
WHERE ARE MORE GM LIVE EVENTS?
WHERE IS AV'S COMMUNICATION!???!?!



EXACTLY!

Cause Tasos and rest of Av are cowards. They don't have the courage to face their community! They never had!

If by community they see people like u i cant blame they dont want to face it.

[Virtual Fear]

Great podcast Frank.

[Frank sinatra[SUN]]

Its quite amazing that people use a spotlight to complain about the lack of spotlights :)

Its december and at the rate you are throwing hate left and right, odds are that santa wont drop by with presents this year.

[foggen]

I suggested they post the cast so people could see it.

This is a pretty good interview and the more that see it the better.

This section is for spotlighting stuff just like this. Stuff from the community.

Calm down.

hey bro-yo.

calm down.

[Fly Man]

hey bro-yo.

calm down.

bro-yo is good.

bronado and broyster are better.

[kozzmozz]

;5246714']Its quite amazing that people use a spotlight to complain about the lack of spotlights :)

Its december and at the rate you are throwing hate left and right, odds are that santa wont drop by with presents this year.

Hey Frank, I listened to it completely, its a nice listen, BUT!

At a couple of points you hit the ball wrong!

for example you state :

having the freedom to craft everything doesnt inflict the economy.

WRONG!

Why ? Just compare it to real life!
Imagine, I have a breadmaking machine. I dont need to buy bread anymore at the bakery.
Imagine im good with fixing the bike from my kid, so I dont need to go to the bikestore anymore!
Imagine .... .

Basically those stores wont get money from me since I can do it myself, wich will cost me less money then I buy it a shop. Horay for me, Less horay for the person in the shop.
Imagine that not only me, but like 70% in our town does the same. I guarantee you , in 1 year that shop will go bankrupt since they have no business or not enough to get enough cash in.
This is the only reason why economy is failing. Doubling the items as you proposed wont do anything since it only encourage people more to do it themselves since they get easier materials. (remember the rare ore drops from regular mines)

You stated aswell that you are against real hacking with 3th party programs But in a competitive game as Darkfall the player should be allowed to do exploits IF they find exploits.
To me thats like saying : Hey shit I want that expensive TV flatscreen from this store, but there is a window between me and that TV. But hey! If i take this hard rock and smash it towards the window, the window breaks and I can just take the TV! The shopowner should of had better glas since I found an exploit to get it from him!
Oke, this is a game you will say, its not real life!
But on the other hand you also state that these mmorpg's go along with real life feelings & emotions, that people dont want their items & gold & skills be taken away since it will upset them, feeling cheated by the game, etc... just like it happens in real life... wont you think?

Im afraid to say that you & others have doomed darkfall from the start. YES the developers should of taken action as soon as possible wich they didnt, but you chose to participate in this & your entire clan. You could of set an example of getting more honour in your guild & alliance by NOT doing all these things. Making guys who macro'd, exploited, gain unfair advantage be the 1% in darkfall rather then the 90% it was.
Its just how you chose to play/live a game or how you think or stand in real life.

I play hardcore BF3 atm. Well I unlocked the Nightvision scope wich game me clearly such an advantage over the rest that I chose NOT to use it since I thought it was lame. Luckily they nerfed it hard with yesterday's patch so all the "pro's" dont have their unfair advantage anymore.

Its long to read but I hope you do read it all and that you think how you and others will act & react in DF2, otherwise the game is doomed again!

thanks for reading.

[Nalle]

lots of words

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b7qaSxuZUg

[kozzmozz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b7qaSxuZUg

Imagine reading a book focussed, I agree, it takes a brain to do so.

[ZtyX]

Kozzion Mozz. Respect.

Well written post that has some good points and sticks it to Frank Sinatra - that double-standard cheating no-good-for-nuttin' sob!

[Captain Kirk]

Devs are ninja removing posts here i see

[Makgyver]

good podcast btw

[kozzmozz]

Kozzion Mozz. Respect.

Well written post that has some good points and sticks it to Frank Sinatra - that double-standard cheating no-good-for-nuttin' sob!

hehe, thanks Celiah! Someday on the new DF I will be back with YR!
And I hope AV & especially the community have learned its lesson on how to make this game great for all players instead of some choosing for their own benefits whilst dragging the whole lot down aswell.
I like to compare this game to real life since it has so much in common. I even understand that weakminded people follow the blacksheeps in terms of "ow if i dont macro like the rest, i cant keep up, so i better do it too!"
Unfortunately they dont see further in the future how their behaviour could cause this game harm & eventually harm themselves aswell.

[Niburu]

if you have to macro/exploit to keep up and stay competitive in a PVP/Full Loot game it is a desing flaw within the game, so the Dev's are to blame. Also nice to read your double standard since celiah also use some game design flaws....

[kozzmozz]

if you have to macro/exploit to keep up and stay competitive in a PVP/Full Loot game it is a desing flaw within the game, so the Dev's are to blame. Also nice to read your double standard since celiah also use some game design flaws....

you didnt have to macro / exploit cause it was not a problem some people were a bit higher then others since it had such a slow skillgain!!
there is no difference that everyone has a fireball that does 15 dmg or that everyone has a fireball that does 50 dmg!

But since everyone wanted to have max this & max that rather instead of playing the game, this caused a "cold war" between everyone.
Ah you need 75 this! ah you need 25 mastery that! Ah you cant do shit cause you dont got Wiches brew, and so on & on.

Some players / clans wanted to kill asap the majority of the server with high dmg skills rather then thrust on their own skill of playing an fps. Thinking you are good & pro since you can kill a person in 4 hits is just a noobstatement. The "noob" need to hit more correctly since he only does 20 dmg and thus he needs to hit that person 10 times, while the other one only has to hit him for 4 times.

Slow skillgain like at start would of created much more diversity between players. And it would of created a more variety of levels between players.
history of DF tells me you only had the very high skiled who didnt played the first 6 months beside macro'ing / bloodwalling causing the world feeling empty from the start since they were safe inside with 100 persons hugging eachother to gain skill in a safe environment.

So flaw in gamedesign? No! Flaw in human behaviour ? YES!

[droidika]

<3 celiahs fire kick

mount farming stuck mobs - you go girl

[lamer2tm]

you didnt have to macro / exploit cause it was not a problem some people were a bit higher then others since it had such a slow skillgain!!
there is no difference that everyone has a fireball that does 15 dmg or that everyone has a fireball that does 50 dmg!

But since everyone wanted to have max this & max that rather instead of playing the game, this caused a "cold war" between everyone.
Ah you need 75 this! ah you need 25 mastery that! Ah you cant do shit cause you dont got Wiches brew, and so on & on.

Some players / clans wanted to kill asap the majority of the server with high dmg skills rather then thrust on their own skill of playing an fps. Thinking you are good & pro since you can kill a person in 4 hits is just a noobstatement. The "noob" need to hit more correctly since he only does 20 dmg and thus he needs to hit that person 10 times, while the other one only has to hit him for 4 times.

Slow skillgain like at start would of created much more diversity between players. And it would of created a more variety of levels between players.
history of DF tells me you only had the very high skiled who didnt played the first 6 months beside macro'ing / bloodwalling causing the world feeling empty from the start since they were safe inside with 100 persons hugging eachother to gain skill in a safe environment.

So flaw in gamedesign? No! Flaw in human behaviour ? YES!

haha i laughed when i read the last line, yes it is a flaw in the game design.

Its as simple as this, if its possible and there is no restrictions and small risk, people will do it.

So for AV to allowing people to do it has shaped the game, how that is not a design flaw is beyond me.

Get a cap and specializations and most of this would probably have run better than most indie mmo's out there.

Looking forward to the wipes..

[kozzmozz]

haha i laughed when i read the last line, yes it is a flaw in the game design.

Its as simple as this, if its possible and there is no restrictions and small risk, people will do it.

You do realise by saying this you agree with me? Read my above post where I clearly state that people have their own choice to participate or not, it doesnt matter if you can at that time or not, you should make it up for your own to do or not do !

[-ZH-]

you didnt have to macro / exploit cause it was not a problem some people were a bit higher then others since it had such a slow skillgain!!
there is no difference that everyone has a fireball that does 15 dmg or that everyone has a fireball that does 50 dmg!

But since everyone wanted to have max this & max that rather instead of playing the game, this caused a "cold war" between everyone.
Ah you need 75 this! ah you need 25 mastery that! Ah you cant do shit cause you dont got Wiches brew, and so on & on.

Some players / clans wanted to kill asap the majority of the server with high dmg skills rather then thrust on their own skill of playing an fps. Thinking you are good & pro since you can kill a person in 4 hits is just a noobstatement. The "noob" need to hit more correctly since he only does 20 dmg and thus he needs to hit that person 10 times, while the other one only has to hit him for 4 times.

Slow skillgain like at start would of created much more diversity between players. And it would of created a more variety of levels between players.
history of DF tells me you only had the very high skiled who didnt played the first 6 months beside macro'ing / bloodwalling causing the world feeling empty from the start since they were safe inside with 100 persons hugging eachother to gain skill in a safe environment.

So flaw in gamedesign? No! Flaw in human behaviour ? YES!

What a load of utter rubbish.

[kozzmozz]

What a load of utter rubbish.

did you use 1 braincell per word you typed?

[Ginger Magician]

Sun scum deafeated or not should not be listened to and just ignored.To give publicity to the leader of a clan that caused so much heartache on the eu-1 server and who caused so many players to quit is not right.

I never read a word he posts and will never listen to a word he speaks either and neither should any other lover of the game.

[ZtyX]

Sun scum deafeated or not should not be listened to and just ignored.To give publicity to the leader of a clan that caused so much heartache on the eu-1 server and who caused so many players to quit is not right.

I never read a word he posts and will never listen to a word he speaks either and neither should any other lover of the game.

Well spoken.

I just want to take an opportunity to support this very true statement.
QFT.

[Holmis]

Well spoken.

I just want to take an opportunity to support this very true statement.
QFT.

Good to know that the biggest loosers of EU-1 agree with eachother, at leas you have that in comon, sucking on SUN's giant dick.

[ZtyX]

Good to know that the biggest loosers of EU-1 agree with eachother, at leas you have that in comon, sucking on SUN's giant dick.

You're the loser, SUN boy. I'm still here and kicking.

[Captain Kirk]

Say what you want about Frank and Sun but he loves the game as much as anyone of us still hanging on these forums hoping AV will pull themselfs together. You might not agree with their tactics but if you look at it Frank is really the kind of person I would like to see as a spokesperson for Darkfall.

Besides Ginger should'nt say shit about making people quit the game. You spent the first years of Darkfall exploiting the war system in startertown griefing noobs naked.

[droidika]

Sun scum deafeated or not should not be listened to and just ignored.To give publicity to the leader of a clan that caused so much heartache on the eu-1 server and who caused so many players to quit is not right.

I never read a word he posts and will never listen to a word he speaks either and neither should any other lover of the game.

<3 the gingerman

peace

[Gray Fox]

Sun scum deafeated or not should not be listened to and just ignored. To give publicity to the leader of a clan that caused so much heartache on the eu-1 server and who caused so many players to quit is not right.

I never read a word he posts and will never listen to a word he speaks either and neither should any other lover of the game.

Hmmm...


Besides Ginger should'nt say shit about making people quit the game. You spent the first years of Darkfall exploiting the war system in startertown griefing noobs naked.

That explains why he doesnt listen to himself.

[Snoepie]

this is some damn long podcast.. LOL

Intresting to listen tho..

But basicly questions and answeres from the past 2 years..

Like always every one is in debat about the game.. and none of AV is responding..

This is one of the main reasons why i ain't subbing anymore..

Frank has done so much effort with posting and shit.. and basicly accomplished nothing with his posting...

WHY IS NONE OF AV RESPONDING TO THERE CUSTOMERS.?

p.s. still like to take a dump in there main office.

[Banka plixz]

How about AV do a podcast rather than spotlighting 1 of the 300 players this game has? Just food for thought, it might raise some interest.
Or not.

[ZeviL]

How about AV do a podcast rather than spotlighting 1 of the 300 players this game has? Just food for thought, it might raise some interest.
Or not.

I vote for a interview with Banka!

[Nalle]

I vote for a interview with Banka!

i vote for inteview with zevil!

[ZeviL]

i vote for inteview with zevil!

I don't know a shit about this game more than logging in and knuse!
I will put my next vote on Nalle1

[HeliosNorlund]

basical noone not even his biggest enemy could disagree with the valid points frank stated in that interview

foggen would have answer with other words but im sure like 99% the same sence

DF is in stasis until DF2

thats it

[Realbigdeal22]

I vote for interview with foggen. that might be entertaining.

[Sack]

I vote for interview with foggen. that might be entertaining.

Sent foggen a forum tell a couple weeks ago... haven't heard back, so I don't think it's going to happen.

[HeliosNorlund]

Sent foggen a forum tell a couple weeks ago... haven't heard back, so I don't think it's going to happen.

he wont come after frank
that his ego forbid

but maybe u can talk sweet and tell him
that the more important fights always come later in boxing too

[Lahmage]

Ill do an interview

im famous and brilliant

[Eldest]

I waited 3 years for Darkfall to come. Darkfall 2.0 shouldn't be a problem.

[Iona Leafblade]

I bet you'll love 2.0 as much as you love 1.0

[Iona Leafblade]

Also, stfu and let ryan do his thang. Dude's too shy as it is. Tell him to get outta dun amshara or whatever tha fuck he's hangin at now and exploooooor a bit. Then when he dies do it again, and once more... if you go to the same spots it doesnt count.

OK after that do another episode with someone else.

[Valroth]

Nice podcast, I like how the host is able to ask questions with multiple layers and maintain a steady train of thought, its a rare skill.

[foggen]

I waited 3 years for Darkfall to come. Darkfall 2.0 shouldn't be a problem.

I waited 7 years, np.

[Glabro]

i waited 7 years, np.

y u no podcast, fogend?

[foggen]

y u no podcast, fogend?

I declined, frank pretty much summed it up anyways in his own angle.

Not to be a party-pooper but this doesnt interest me at all.

Especially not for almost 2 hours.

[Heldy]

I declined, frank pretty much summed it up anyways in his own angle.

Not to be a party-pooper but this doesnt interest me at all.

Especially not for almost 2 hours.

We could send Ellianor .... the moderater asks one question like "Hello, you are playing Darkfall" and the 2 hours are over soonish, without any other question ... :ninja:

*runandhide*

<3 Ellianor

[Raels]

oh boy paddy, job well done ^.^

[Glabro]

I declined, frank pretty much summed it up anyways in his own angle.

Not to be a party-pooper but this doesnt interest me at all.

Especially not for almost 2 hours.

fair enough, puppet master.

[BillyOcean]

foggen didnt get asked for a podcast and apparently (according to his guildies) was raging

[foggen]

Must.. resist.. biting..

[BillyOcean]

Must.. resist.. biting..

jelly belly? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ53ARbkqbA&feature=youtu.be&hd=1&t=24s)

[foggen]

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seems legit :ninja:

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hard to produce that fake

[foggen]

as if I would bother :rolleyes:

[Yroh]

nice interview , at least sun just won their slots in closed beta

[ExcursionRob]

I suggested they post the cast so people could see it.

This is a pretty good interview and the more that see it the better.

This section is for spotlighting stuff just like this. Stuff from the community.

Calm down.

^this^ enough with the QQing all the time...