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Kuruptix
09-18-2011, 02:22
Hey guys, i am building my brother a computer for gaming, he is mainly looking forward to battlefield 3. So please look at it and tell me what you think

GPU:XFX HD695XZDDC Radeon HD 6950 1GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150527

Case: COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Advanced
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160

MOBO: GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3 AM3+ AMD 990FX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128514

CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition Thuban 3.3GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103913

Ram: G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231460

PSU:Antec High Current Gamer Series HCG-750 750W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371049

HD: Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533

Jimmyhat
09-18-2011, 02:24
Let's see some pics of your abs & pecs first

CuriousGeorge
09-18-2011, 03:34
Wait for the new generation of hardware to come out. The 7000 series of AMD GPUs are coming out this year.

Kuruptix
09-18-2011, 05:12
nvm i went with an Intel build instead

Weeking
09-18-2011, 19:16
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185

Get a few of these instead. Pretty much identical performance and less noisy according to a comprehensive HDD test I read a while back. And cheaper too. I have two I'm happy with, very silent compared to other disks, and way faster than "green" disks. Not bad power consumption either. If you get identical ones, you'll have some hassle identifying them at time. Errors of this kind can be avoided by attaching them with hotswap. If they are identical, they should all make similar types and level of noise so they'll be even less annoying.

screw loose
09-18-2011, 19:43
I went AMD Phenom II and I would suggest you go Intel. Intel seems to run DF better.

Death's Chill
09-18-2011, 19:53
Amd cpu?

HDD?

The rest is good.

Definitely go with Intel though, and also go for an SSD (Sata 3). It's mind boggingly faster than an hdd.

Viluin
09-19-2011, 01:28
Amd cpu?

HDD?

The rest is good.

Definitely go with Intel though, and also go for an SSD (Sata 3). It's mind boggingly faster than an hdd.

Also, add $400 to the price tag for this route. :rolleyes:

Death's Chill
09-19-2011, 01:30
Also, add $400 to the price tag for this route. :rolleyes:

AMD will work, you will still get decent performance, but the optimal build is with Intel.

It's not major, probably 20% increase at most depending on the game, it's up to you.

Viluin
09-19-2011, 01:34
AMD will work, you will still get decent performance, but the optimal build is with Intel.

It's not major, probably 20% increase at most depending on the game, it's up to you.

Actually a 0-5% increase in most games unless you have a $600 GPU setup.

$150 is good for a kickass top-of-the-line AMD motherboard. All you got for that price was ASRock. :lmao:

Ragnarok Delrhe
09-19-2011, 02:25
Hey guys, i am building my brother a computer for gaming, he is mainly looking forward to battlefield 3. So please look at it and tell me what you think

GPU:XFX HD695XZDDC Radeon HD 6950 1GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150527

Case: COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Advanced
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160

MOBO: GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3 AM3+ AMD 990FX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128514

CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition Thuban 3.3GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103913

Ram: G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231460

PSU:Antec High Current Gamer Series HCG-750 750W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371049

HD: Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533
AMD, ATI, I'll give it 4.2/10, seriously.


$150 is good for a kickass top-of-the-line AMD motherboard. All you got for that price was ASRock. That's because AMD'S top of the line is below Intel's knees.

Death's Chill
09-19-2011, 02:41
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUkvhOhrDVk

20% average. Some games get 30-40% more performance.

Kuruptix
09-19-2011, 04:10
New Build Update

mobo: ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271

cpu:Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

Case: Antec DF-85 Black ATX Full Tower Computer Case

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129087

GPU: EVGA 012-P3-1571-AR GeForce GTX 570 HD

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130621

HD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185

RAM : G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231416


Monitor: ASUS VS Series VS247H-P Black 23.6"
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236174

Heatsink: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

total = $1,335.87 ( not shown keyboard, 2x razer mousepad and dvd drive )


btw dont feel sad guys, im running a sub par amd build, budget that consisted for 400 dollars

this is just my brothers that i built for him because hes fresh out of college and got a job and wants to build some credit.

pZombie
09-19-2011, 05:37
New Build Update

mobo: ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271

cpu:Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

Case: Antec DF-85 Black ATX Full Tower Computer Case

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129087

GPU: EVGA 012-P3-1571-AR GeForce GTX 570 HD

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130621

HD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185

RAM : G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231416


Monitor: ASUS VS Series VS247H-P Black 23.6"
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236174

Heatsink: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

total = $1,335.87 ( not shown keyboard, 2x razer mousepad and dvd drive )


btw dont feel sad guys, im running a sub par amd build, budget that consisted for 400 dollars

this is just my brothers that i built for him because hes fresh out of college and got a job and wants to build some credit.

This is a good build. Gen3 motherboard, good decision. With that and a ivy bridge coming out in the future, you are pretty much set for the next 4-5 years

EDIT: I don't like side windows

Viluin
09-19-2011, 06:32
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUkvhOhrDVk

20% average. Some games get 30-40% more performance.

Quad SLI, moron. If you used that as a reference to build your own system, then lol. I don't understand why you'd even link that after what I said.




mobo: ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard


Doh, ASRock.

You know you added $300 to the price for no difference, right? You actually made it worse with the ASRock. :bang:



AMD, ATI, I'll give it 4.2/10, seriously.

That's because AMD'S top of the line is below Intel's knees.

AMD chipsets are far superior to Intel chipsets, but whatever floats your boat. Come see me in 2 years when your Intel board is obsolete and my AMD board from 2007 is still upgradeable (not to mention running, which an ASRock board most likely wouldn't be).

Death's Chill
09-19-2011, 14:30
Quad SLI, moron. If you used that as a reference to build your own system, then lol. I don't understand why you'd even link that after what I said.


?

Quad sli with the most powerful gpus on the planet = no gpu bottleneck. Any difference is on the cpu, and amd got owned.


Doh, ASRock.

You know you added $300 to the price for no difference, right? You actually made it worse with the ASRock. :bang:

Your vendetta against ASrock is rather hilarious. They made a quality budget board with support for the next-gen gpus and cpus. Maybe they made crap in the past but my experience so far is fantastic. Even their bios is great. Boot times are good without excessively long POST, and overclocking is a breeze. Lots of utilities and shit too.



AMD chipsets are far superior to Intel chipsets, but whatever floats your boat. Come see me in 2 years when your Intel board is obsolete and my AMD board from 2007 is still upgradeable (not to mention running, which an ASRock board most likely wouldn't be).

My board will be upgradeable for a while too, because ASrock strikingly enough, rocks. Intel CPUs have consistently been proven to be better. To say otherwise is ridiculous.

You can argue that it's not worth the price increase for the performance gain, but saying they are worse? That's like saying Adam Richman is healthy.


New Build Update

mobo: ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271

cpu:Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

Case: Antec DF-85 Black ATX Full Tower Computer Case

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129087

GPU: EVGA 012-P3-1571-AR GeForce GTX 570 HD

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130621

HD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185

RAM : G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231416


Monitor: ASUS VS Series VS247H-P Black 23.6"
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236174

Heatsink: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

total = $1,335.87 ( not shown keyboard, 2x razer mousepad and dvd drive )


btw dont feel sad guys, im running a sub par amd build, budget that consisted for 400 dollars

this is just my brothers that i built for him because hes fresh out of college and got a job and wants to build some credit.

Excellent choices, yes.

Personally I would go with 16 GB of RAM now, although you can always get that later if you want. It's cool to have that much RAM, and future proof. You won't really need it now but it's visually satisfying to have all the DIM slots on your motherboard occupied. It feels complete. ;)

Also, make a serious consideration to get an SSD. It really does boost performance across the board in absolutely every aspect of your computer. I simply cannot ever go back to HDD. Not even for movie storage. Fuck HDDs.

Later on, get another gtx 570 and sli that bitch. You will dominate everything, and I do mean everything.

Viluin
09-19-2011, 14:44
?

Quad sli with the most powerful gpus on the planet = no gpu bottleneck. Any difference is on the cpu, and amd got owned.

Yeah, but you're not running quad SLI, are you? Way to fall for that marketing trick. If someone switched out your Intel CPU for an AMD CPU you wouldn't notice.


My board will be upgradeable for a while too, because ASrock strikingly enough, rocks.

That's what every Intel owner thinks, but 9/10 times they end up having to buy a new motherboard when they want to upgrade to the latest CPU. Or they buy an old CPU.



Your vendetta against ASrock is rather hilarious. They made a quality budget board with support for the next-gen gpus and cpus. Maybe they made crap in the past but my experience so far is fantastic. Even their bios is great. Boot times are good without excessively long POST, and overclocking is a breeze. Lots of utilities and shit too.

Yeah, until it explodes or catches fire. Or both. I don't have a personal vendetta against ASRock, they're just known to be the worst motherboard maker there is. It doesn't get any worse than ASRock, that's the bottom of the barrel.



You can argue that it's not worth the price increase for the performance gain, but saying they are worse? That's like saying Adam Richman is healthy.

What performance increase? I don't see quad SLI in either of your setups, so there will be a GPU bottleneck anyway. You paid way more money for basically the same thing and you're trying to rationalize it. Next you're going to claim you will use the extra CPU power outside games somehow. :rolleyes:

Death's Chill
09-19-2011, 14:48
Yeah, but you're not running quad SLI, are you? Way to fall for that marketing trick. If someone switched out your Intel CPU for an AMD CPU you wouldn't notice.


It's not a marketing trick, the guy isn't sponsored by anyone. CPUs come into play even if the gpu is bottlenecked, because they don't process the same things. The cpu and gpu compliment each other.

Although I still stand by what I've said before, cpus for gaming are not that big a deal. The difference is there but marginal. I simply feel Intel is more reliable, and superior in matters non-related to gaming. I don't partake in those now but I might in the future, and I just like having that option.


Yeah, until it explodes or catches fire. Or both. I don't have a personal vendetta against ASRock, they're just known to be the worst motherboard maker there is. It doesn't get any worse than ASRock, that's the bottom of the barrel.

Several hundred newegg reviews, and myself, disagree. I guess it doesn't matter now, because it's performing great and that's the bottom line. I'll condede to you if it does blow up, but I highly doubt it will.


What performance increase? I don't see quad SLI, so there will be a GPU bottleneck anyway.

If you have a better cpu, than even with a bottleneck you should see a more stable framerate, because the cpu is still handling its business even if the gpu is lagging. It's not just about max fps.

Viluin
09-19-2011, 14:54
I simply feel Intel is more reliable, and superior in matters non-related to gaming. I don't partake in those now but I might in the future, and I just like having that option.

Derp, there it is. Rationalizing the extra hundreds of spent dollars.



If you have a better cpu, than even with a bottleneck you should see a more stable framerate, because the cpu is still handling its business even if the gpu is lagging. It's not just about max fps.

I don't think you know how it works. What you're talking about is getting 100 FPS on an AMD CPU and 105 FPS on an Intel CPU. Big woop. That sure is worth $400! Average and minimum framerates are almost entirely dependent on the GPU, unless you have a monster GPU setup which you don't. If you have unstable framerates it's almost always the GPU, in fact a CPU bottleneck often provides extremely stable framerates, like a constant 200FPS that doesn't fluctuate.