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Shrang
08-17-2011, 18:06
So it seems that my older than hell desktop pc is on its last legs and it is time for me to work on a replacement.

Has anyone found full PC vendors yet that do not charge you far beyond the parts cost while using the cheapest parts they can get hold of?

I really am not a big graphics whore when it comes to games, but I hate any sort of hardware-based lag. I'd like my next computer to be able to run average games for the next 3-5 years(I'd be pretty unhappy if it couldn't handle modern things like SC II, Portal 2 and Skyrim at least). My price range would probably be 1-1.5k and while I can't claim to have fully built a pc before, I have worked inside of them and am willing to work from parts IF there is no reasonable place to buy a full one.

Any suggestions?

Jedicake
08-17-2011, 18:09
Here's a really helpful video on finding the right parts, and specifically putting together the right PC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B03blHIbGA

Shrang
08-17-2011, 18:20
Here's a really helpful video on finding the right parts, and specifically putting together the right PC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B03blHIbGA

Thats a lot of unopened boxes to fit in one case.

Arkh
08-17-2011, 18:52
Build your own PC and don't forget to put an SSD as your OS disk if you don't like slowdowns.

If you are ready to spend some hours building it, you could even go for a mini-ITX build like that: http://tof.canardpc.com/view/c0b48cb8-6fb4-4428-a98a-5aa70ec502a9.jpg add a dvd reader and a Samuel17 heatsink and you're done.

Shrang
08-17-2011, 20:27
Build your own PC and don't forget to put an SSD as your OS disk if you don't like slowdowns.

If you are ready to spend some hours building it, you could even go for a mini-ITX build like that: http://tof.canardpc.com/view/c0b48cb8-6fb4-4428-a98a-5aa70ec502a9.jpg add a dvd reader and a Samuel17 heatsink and you're done.

I don't really need a mini-ITX (the hassle putting together and maintaining, size isn't an issue for me, id except more heat issues and there is less room for ports which can be useful). I had been considering an SSD for my OS because of boot time and performance boost.

Where are the best places to look for pc parts these days.. newegg still worthwhile?

Weeking
08-17-2011, 22:16
SC2 doesn't have high requirements. Doubt you can get a new desktop computer not able to run it nowadays, unless of course it has no GPU or only a crappy one made for office environments. Basically last generations cheapest gaming models (GTX 460) are overkill.

It's very easy to put together a computer yourself though, and also easy to buy if you buy ready sets (no cabinet) or barebone (mobo and cabinet)

Belight
08-17-2011, 23:24
Honestly... cyberpowerpc.com has some pretty fair prices.

I normally build my own rigs but for what I want, it's only a few hundred bucks more to go with a pre-built from cyberpower. It's already put together and overclocked.

If you want to build it yourself, make a custom rig from their site, copy the part list and go to newegg.com or something. That way you know everything is compatible and such.

For what you want, I'd suggest an i5 CPU and Nvidia 550+ for the GPU.
SSD is good for your OS too.

pZombie
08-18-2011, 02:53
http://i51.tinypic.com/1089pnm.png

add a 212+ heatsink, which is perfectly good for 4.5ghz overclocks and even higher this motherboard supports.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065


or alternatively, get this

http://i54.tinypic.com/r08ae0.png

Looks the same, but there is a little detail here. This MSI board labeled G3 instead of B3 supports the pcie 3.0 functionality of the soon to come ivy bridge CPUs. The former B3 board will also support ivy bridge, but it will be pcie 2.0 only.

I cannot really tell you if it is worth it. pcie 3.0 means more bandwidth, but even half of the pcie 2.0 bandwidth is usually enough for even the fastest current GPUs out there.



Finally, both the motherboard and this PSU were picked to support two GTX 560 ti in SLI.
So anytime you want, you can add another gtx 560 ti hawk, and get around +80% performance. Also, you would then be able to connect 3 monitors and run games with 3d vision surround.

A reasonable upgrade would also be a 120gb SSD. Either go with a reliable intel,

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167050
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167042

a super fast corsair

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233191

crucial also has some good SSDs. Even their old models are among the top still and have turned out to be quite reliable.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148448

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148348

this might be older, but have already been tested and turned out to be fast and reliable

There are some saying that the older 34nm drives are destined to last longer than the newer less nm drives. Hard to research if that is true. The manufacturers seem to suggest the same same MTBF for both (Mean Time Between Failures)

Death's Chill
08-18-2011, 04:40
You really think a 750 watt PSU is enough for two GTX 560s?

Arkh
08-18-2011, 07:32
You really think a 750 watt PSU is enough for two GTX 560s?

A good 750 is enough for 2 GTX570 so 2 GTX560 should be easy. But yeah, if you're used to subpar PSU you need ones which announce a lot more.

pZombie
08-18-2011, 14:59
You really think a 750 watt PSU is enough for two GTX 560s?

This is not your average 750w PSU. This is the best 750w PSU out there on the market, along with the seasonic x750 which is exactly the same unit.


So yes, this unit can even run two gtx 570 if necessary, even though i would recommend the 850 ax in that case to leave some space for overclocking.

doomahx
08-18-2011, 15:15
This is not your average 750w PSU. This is the best 750w PSU out there on the market, along with the seasonic x750 which is exactly the same unit.



I have that corsair PSU and I love it. Runs very cool and the fan is barely noticeable, awesome bonuses.

Death's Chill
08-18-2011, 15:21
Very interesting indeed. I'm trying to reduce my build cost down to 1,100$ with taxes and shipping so I can buy the computer on my next pay.

http://secure.newegg.ca/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=116 82669

That's what I got so far.