Player Siege Fun! [Archive]

Laenih

11-29-2010, 10:39 AM

We witnessed some great fighting over Furghum last night on the EU server. It seemed the forces were very even, manpower wise, and the tactics used turned out to be a real challenge for both sides with ships coming into play as well as some sneaky flanking manoeuvres.

Sieges are always accompanied by PvP Talk before and after and this was no exception when it came to the banter and discussions in the Server related forum (http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=269550) regarding the moments leading up to the siege. However it seems that the aftermath was dominated by congratulations and "Good Game" and "Good Fights" on both sides. Despite the fact that there always has to be a winner and a not so lucky side during a siege everyone seemed to have had a lot of fun.

We were able to snag some screenshots during the siege which you can check out in the official Facebook gallery (http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=27803&id=134645883249871). Go tag yourself!

Also, for future sieges or events: Please feel free to inform any of the Liaisons of interesting events we and the devs might like to attend incognito or ninja style. We are always looking for good opportunities to take screenshots and footage. This goes for both servers. We obviously can't promise to be at every single one but we will make an effort to snag some impressions if we can!

Styrr Chipatama

11-29-2010, 10:48 AM

And inb4 dev are in Sun etc.

What are your DEV gaming pc spec ? How was the siege performance wise ?

VanXo

11-29-2010, 10:52 AM

And inb4 dev are in Sun etc.

What are your DEV gaming pc spec ? How was the siege performance wise ?

where is the cheese?

campino87

11-29-2010, 10:57 AM

nice screenies!! :)

smackyou

11-29-2010, 11:02 AM

DonQuitto

11-29-2010, 11:21 AM

i wish my game looked as good as the screenies :P

Leg enD

11-29-2010, 11:25 AM

woot :D i think thats me on the right in #8 :D

Xarath

11-29-2010, 11:30 AM

Sounds like a great battle - great pics btw :)

MEGAFACE

11-29-2010, 11:52 AM

Was one of great battle's that will go down in history:) alot of players on our side (sl) lost a few 60k+ gear bags, but was more than happy to do so to be apart of that epic battle.

Falesh

11-29-2010, 11:56 AM

This is great for publicity as it shows how epic DF fights can be.

Barf Mawg

11-29-2010, 12:13 PM

are there plans to spotlight every siege now?

DonQuitto

11-29-2010, 12:17 PM

he just said that they will not probably be in every siege :P

Barf Mawg

11-29-2010, 12:18 PM

he just said that they will not probably be in every siege :P

he must've sneakily edited it in!

or it's because i'm working since 4am and text is starting to get blurry. :ninja:

DonQuitto

11-29-2010, 12:22 PM

you got to... GET YOUR GAME ON !!! :D

Niburu

11-29-2010, 12:22 PM

pff we had stormhammers spawned and Kolesh and you do screenshots of poor ships :(

No joke, nice screenies pls more action fotage

Chohag

11-29-2010, 12:24 PM

nice pics wish u had made a vid while there anyhow to =P

dracoz

11-29-2010, 12:26 PM

was fun tho this pics looks epic and my looks bad coz of low settings

droidika

11-29-2010, 12:26 PM

pff we had stormhammers spawned and Kolesh and you do screenshots of poor ships :(

No nice screenies, pls more action fotage

well 1 hour constant fighting between 50 vs 50

vs

stormhammers asset destruction without any action at all?

hard to choose

Wind of Terror

11-29-2010, 12:30 PM

pff we had stormhammers spawned and Kolesh and you do screenshots of poor ships :(

No nice screenies, pls more action fotage

such a negative nancy :p

QQ moar niburu

SUN'S GM'S 4 LYFE.

Trixter-SUN

11-29-2010, 12:31 PM

Hey I can see my grave from here!

lokerrt

11-29-2010, 12:41 PM

Sieges could be even more fun if you removed the stupid wildlife and other performance killers from the game.

Draugen

11-29-2010, 12:56 PM

It was a great siege. Helped enormously by the conditions - carried out in prime time on a sunday evening, between two forces almost even in numbers, and even more importantly its the only siege I have taken part in which hasn't been ruined or influenced heavily by clans it has nothing to do with.

Especially on the last point (roamers), these conditions are rarer than a dragon cuirass from a chaos chest.

Niburu

11-29-2010, 01:05 PM

such a negative nancy :p

QQ moar niburu

SUN'S GM'S 4 LYFE.

had to edit my post the overal message was wrong ^^

well 1 hour constant fighting between 50 vs 50

vs

stormhammers asset destruction without any action at all?

hard to choose

epic warhulk action while epic fail push from pandora

MEGAFACE

11-29-2010, 01:49 PM

Pic 15, is the sexest player in DF :p

AmonDominus

11-29-2010, 02:14 PM

What Computer specs do the liasions have? I think alot of us would like to know.

katahlyn

11-29-2010, 02:31 PM

i wish my game looked as good as the screenies :P

And played at >60 FPS with all the people at the same time. :p

SynCaine

11-29-2010, 03:18 PM

Great screens.

I noticed in your screens the new terrain textures don't 'fade' from you like they do for me. Which setting in the options controls that?

As far as I'm aware I have everything turned on/up, but I can't get the good looking terrain to extend more than 10 feet or so around me, and beyond that it switches to the more 'blurry' stuff.

Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!

bandoril

11-29-2010, 03:19 PM

Nice screen !

iluvlesbians

11-29-2010, 03:31 PM

And played at >60 FPS with all the people at the same time. :p

I don't have a great df pc, but they can be had for alot less money now. The main thing is fast hd and overclocked cpu. You can buy a box well under $1000 to run the game pretty well.

Tsalarian

11-29-2010, 03:32 PM

Nice screens,
an overview footage of this fight would be a very interesting watch I think - lots of going back and forth between the two forces.

Barf Mawg

11-29-2010, 03:32 PM

And played at >60 FPS with all the people at the same time. :p

well, they just needed to take screenshots not actually run it at a playable pace...

LightFall

11-29-2010, 03:49 PM

about roamers ruining sieges...

why not make it so that enlisted attackers and defenders can only get killed by each other and be invulnerable to random roamers during the siege?

Gray Fox

11-29-2010, 04:06 PM

about roamers ruining sieges...

why not make it so that enlisted attackers and defenders can only get killed by each other and be invulnerable to random roamers during the siege?

Are you serious?

wingman92

11-29-2010, 04:16 PM

woho i can see myself :D pitcher nr 3 the mahirim with running away between the mountains

ronjata

11-29-2010, 04:57 PM

didn t knew that DF can look THAT great...i play with shader 1_1, no shadows and everything else at low quality :D

Niburu

11-29-2010, 05:22 PM

didn t knew that DF can look THAT great...i play with shader 1_1, no shadows and everything else at low quality :D

ouch

Virindii

11-29-2010, 05:24 PM

the screenshots are great.

Keno

11-29-2010, 05:30 PM

about roamers ruining sieges...

why not make it so that enlisted attackers and defenders can only get killed by each other and be invulnerable to random roamers during the siege?

Wow. Good one.

Laenih

11-29-2010, 05:45 PM

lolox

11-29-2010, 05:54 PM

SynCaine

11-29-2010, 06:03 PM

We checked on the computer speccs for the machine the screenshots were taken from and here they are:

P5E3 Deluxe
Intel Core 2 Duo CPU 3.00 GHz
Memory: 4096MB RAM
Graphic Card: GeForce 8800 GTX (2148MB)
Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit

That's one step above a toaster, so I'd love to know what calculator watches people who play at low settings are using...

Tsalarian

11-29-2010, 06:13 PM

We checked on the computer speccs for the machine the screenshots were taken from and here they are:

P5E3 Deluxe
Intel Core 2 Duo CPU 3.00 GHz
Memory: 4096MB RAM
Graphic Card: GeForce 8800 GTX (2148MB)
Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit

Wow, thanks for the info. I didn't expect to get this question answered actually :)

These specs aren't that high tbh. We only see screenshots here but they're amazing quality - was it actually playable with computer or was it just enough to take still shots?

KDSAB

11-29-2010, 06:29 PM

Sure, that computer ran the game fine with those settings and that many players there :)

What they're not telling you is that those screenshots are EVERY frame that flicked across it's screen during the 1 hour fight :p

DwellerBelow

11-29-2010, 06:43 PM

And inb4 dev are in Sun etc.

What are your DEV gaming pc spec ? How was the siege performance wise ?

The DEVs obviously have Gaming PC Spec Mastery 100.

Yakamoz

11-29-2010, 07:06 PM

We checked on the computer speccs for the machine the screenshots were taken from and here they are:

P5E3 Deluxe
Intel Core 2 Duo CPU 3.00 GHz
Memory: 4096MB RAM
Graphic Card: GeForce 8800 GTX (2148MB)
Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit
Say what ? It can't be.

I support a request for Darkfall's video settings of that machine and a honest answer to the question: have you enhanced the screen-shots by any means OUTSIDE the game ?

Aros

11-29-2010, 07:33 PM

I had no FPS problems or lagg during the whole siege.

I got pretty much the same computer as the one who took these screens.

A computer I bought 2 years back for 800 euro, I have not re-installed it since then.

800 euro for a computer that handle DF good and will last for another 2 years is silly cheap.

I think people should upgrade their gear.

Laenih

11-29-2010, 07:50 PM

The screenshots are slightly sharpened and brightened. No other enhancement or changes have been done to them.

Video Options:
No changes to the default settings
All shadow types enabled
Shadow Quality High
Shadowsmoothing Medium
PS 3_0
Texture Anisotropy Level High

Arkh

11-29-2010, 08:00 PM

What kind of FPS do you get during the battle when there are a lot of spells flying and players around ?

Canra

11-29-2010, 08:39 PM

looks nice :D

Barf Mawg

11-29-2010, 08:41 PM

a much more interesting question, what are the specs of the rig you captured the tournament on?

Laenih

11-29-2010, 09:31 PM

The player tournament on EU organized by Ninogan Swiftstep was captured on the exact same machine.

Barf Mawg

11-29-2010, 10:01 PM

The player tournament on EU organized by Ninogan Swiftstep was captured on the exact same machine.

http://207.199.174.56/img/CoczEBQxEn_i-luz-omg-no-wai.jpg

daveyman123

11-29-2010, 10:59 PM

screenshots look amazing

Bear68

11-30-2010, 12:17 AM

We checked on the computer speccs for the machine the screenshots were taken from and here they are:

P5E3 Deluxe
Intel Core 2 Duo CPU 3.00 GHz
Memory: 4096MB RAM
Graphic Card: GeForce 8800 GTX (2148MB)
Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit

The screenshots are slightly sharpened and brightened. No other enhancement or changes have been done to them.

Video Options:
No changes to the default settings
All shadow types enabled
Shadow Quality High
Shadowsmoothing Medium
PS 3_0
Texture Anisotropy Level High

I call BS

Liquid20

11-30-2010, 01:12 AM

We checked on the computer speccs for the machine the screenshots were taken from and here they are:

P5E3 Deluxe
Intel Core 2 Duo CPU 3.00 GHz
Memory: 4096MB RAM
Graphic Card: GeForce 8800 GTX (2148MB)
Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit

That's almost the exact same setup i had last year and i could barely pvp in a siege with a lot of people with settings on low-med and (ofc i had shadows off and shader 1_1). I remember having to look away from the bank when pvping in cities to get better fps and prevent my aim from getting messed up. Unless they show a video of them looking at dxdiag or w/e and then launching the game with playable fps and everythin maxed in a siege with THIS build, i'm not buying a word they say :)

Umki Bloodsoul

11-30-2010, 05:29 AM

pff we had stormhammers spawned and Kolesh and you do screenshots of poor ships :(
Yea, but you got no fight at all.

starsaul

11-30-2010, 06:20 AM

Chohag

11-30-2010, 07:43 AM

tbh that comp is better than mine and I ran the siege with like 20-30fp =P

so dont see why not

moocat

11-30-2010, 07:53 AM

The problem with siege performance is still the leaks, as when you restart your computer and log into the full battle you go from 1 fps to 100. Then it slowly starts deteriorating again.
At least thats my experience.

Dingbat

11-30-2010, 10:47 AM

Wow some of you people are unbelievable. Why would they purposely lie to you about their PC specs? -_o

Sacra Luna

11-30-2010, 11:14 AM

are there plans to spotlight every siege now?

3 out of the last 4 SL sieges have been in spotlight. Muahaha

Sacra Luna

11-30-2010, 11:17 AM

tbh that comp is better than mine and I ran the siege with like 20-30fp =P

so dont see why not

I would've had 100+ then :o.

Funny shit.

Bear68

11-30-2010, 12:57 PM

Wow some of you people are unbelievable. Why would they purposely lie to you about their PC specs? -_o
OK look at the technical forums and at the crap fps people are getting on low settings with much better rigs and then explain to me how they can play a siege with high settings and shadows with an old computer. Performance has gotten much worse since the beginning of EU. There have been patches including Hellfreeze that have continually made the performance worse. If these changes entail using different settings or a shittier computer alot of us would like to know what the deal is.

Chohag

11-30-2010, 01:09 PM

OK look at the technical forums and at the crap fps people are getting on low settings with much better rigs and then explain to me how they can play a siege with high settings and shadows with an old computer. Performance has gotten much worse since the beginning of EU. There have been patches including Hellfreeze that have continually made the performance worse. If these changes entail using different settings or a shittier computer alot of us would like to know what the deal is.

I have actually found that I get better fps by using the default setting instead of the ps1_1 that I believe most ppl are using...

Sacra Luna

11-30-2010, 01:17 PM

I have actually found that I get better fps by using the default setting instead of the ps1_1 that I believe most ppl are using...

I found this out aswell, just annoying that you need to switch this when you have water combat :(

Bear68

11-30-2010, 01:21 PM

I have actually found that I get better fps by using the default setting instead of the ps1_1 that I believe most ppl are using...
I agree the only thing PS1_1 is good for is seeing underwater. I think it looks like crap though. But still what about shadows and sounds and particle effects etc. that people are turning down or off just so they can play the game? How can the comp spec'd in this thread run a siege on the settings specified. What hard drive does it have? Is it that it is running 32bit and not 64? It doesn't seem to have much memory is it the type? I don'y know I was suggesting that they were lying about the computer spec; was just asking them maybe to explain how their game works and how we can get it to run right on our own computers again.

Sacra Luna

11-30-2010, 01:29 PM

I agree the only thing PS1_1 is good for is seeing underwater. I think it looks like crap though. But still what about shadows and sounds and particle effects etc. that people are turning down or off just so they can play the game? How can the comp spec'd in this thread run a siege on the settings specified. What hard drive does it have? Is it that it is running 32bit and not 64? It doesn't seem to have much memory is it the type? I don'y know I was suggesting that they were lying about the computer spec; was just asking them maybe to explain how their game works and how we can get it to run right on our own computers again.

Processor > anything else. 3,0Ghz is quite decent. I had a 2,6Ghz on my old comp (no OC) and still managed to run sieged fairly okay(~20-40fps :p).

Now basically I upgraded my ram (4gb ddr2 to ddr3 4gb, had to change mobo and it didn't support ddr2). New processor (had dual core, now i5-760(quad core@2,8Ghz overclocked to 3,6Ghz). Seems the processor really makes the difference in Darkfall. Still using my same 3years old GFX Card (8800GT)

Balsm

11-30-2010, 04:49 PM

Processor > anything else. 3,0Ghz is quite decent. I had a 2,6Ghz on my old comp (no OC) and still managed to run sieged fairly okay(~20-40fps :p).

Now basically I upgraded my ram (4gb ddr2 to ddr3 4gb, had to change mobo and it didn't support ddr2). New processor (had dual core, now i5-760(quad core@2,8Ghz overclocked to 3,6Ghz). Seems the processor really makes the difference in Darkfall. Still using my same 3years old GFX Card (8800GT)

CPU makes a HUGE difference. Recently I upgraded the cpu on my 4-5 year old pc from a 2.5GHz to a 3.1GHz. I got a good 30-40fps boost with just that upgrade alone. I'm sure once I upgrade to ddr3, windows 7 64bit, and overclock my cpu to 3.5-4.0GHz in the year I'll be rocking DFO without any fps issues in or out of sieges.

The total cost overall to upgrade my pc to something able to run DFO well, should fall around the $300 range. Not to bad at all :)

Canra

11-30-2010, 05:11 PM

why are people talking about them playing a siege? they took some pictures.

$id Viciou$

11-30-2010, 08:44 PM

Excellent idea :)

That would be awesome to see a siege (something like ants running around on the ground) from far far above. Or seeing a city from above from angles that the players cannot see while people are pushing for the entrance or something during a siege.

Wizard of Yndor

12-01-2010, 06:19 AM

Processor > anything else. 3,0Ghz is quite decent. I had a 2,6Ghz on my old comp (no OC) and still managed to run sieged fairly okay(~20-40fps :p)...
... Seems the processor really makes the difference in Darkfall. Still using my same 3years old GFX Card (8800GT)

Yes, CPU > other hardware for DFO. I think that is one of the only things everyone here on forumfall actually agrees on. :)

One thing to note about the CPU listed is that it is an Intel Core2 Duo model, which is not to be confused with the Intel Dual Core model. Those CPU's use different architectures, and have other features which could explain a lot. There's more to it than simply Ghz, or # of cores at work.

Last I checked a Core2 Duo CPU sells for roughly 3 times the price of what a Dual Core CPU with equal Ghz sells for, and is a fairly mid-high end chip for DFO requirements.

Kiad

12-01-2010, 06:52 AM

why are people talking about them playing a siege? they took some pictures.

This. And who says that the client they use to fly around and go invis has the same lag issues that the regular client has? Their dev hax client could be completely different. They might be able to turn 3d sounds to 0 or something.

Wepdesign

12-01-2010, 03:05 PM

rly nice pictures.

Kiriath

12-01-2010, 08:15 PM

I got the exact spec as postet by OP, only diff being ive overclocked mine to 3.6ghz.

I can get graphics like in the screenshots too, with 1-3fps.

Its pretty obvious he was just running around in a slideshow taking screengrabs. No need to call him a liar or anything like that.

Ardwell

12-01-2010, 09:13 PM

Yes, CPU > other hardware for DFO. I think that is one of the only things everyone here on forumfall actually agrees on. :)

One thing to note about the CPU listed is that it is an Intel Core2 Duo model, which is not to be confused with the Intel Dual Core model. Those CPU's use different architectures, and have other features which could explain a lot. There's more to it than simply Ghz, or # of cores at work.

Last I checked a Core2 Duo CPU sells for roughly 3 times the price of what a Dual Core CPU with equal Ghz sells for, and is a fairly mid-high end chip for DFO requirements.

You do realize an Intel Core2 Duo at 3GHZ stock clock can be bought for around 80 to 100 bucks and is a couple of years old? They're not even sold regulary anymore and are by no means anything special but the major CPU type through 2006 to 2008/2009.

I really wonder what the "Intel Dual Core" CPU is supposed to be you mentioned.

tl;dr: Core 2 Duo is cheap & old.

Agris

12-10-2010, 09:28 AM

if they are not lying, they could post some small movie from the next siege

Bear68

12-10-2010, 01:38 PM

Don't worry they are fixing performanc issues in the patch :rolleyes:

Sosicko

12-10-2010, 02:10 PM

Say what ? It can't be.

I support a request for Darkfall's video settings of that machine and a honest answer to the question: have you enhanced the screen-shots by any means OUTSIDE the game ?

Actually it's more than possible to get beautiful graphics from the system specs they posted. My old system had about the same specs with half the video and it was beautiful, not as nice as these but still pretty damn nice. Besides, why lie about something like that? That's just petty.

Bear68

12-10-2010, 02:41 PM

Don't worry they are fixing performance issues in the patch :rolleyes: Ok maybe not this patch, but we got /roll

SEANMCAD

12-10-2010, 08:43 PM

Ok maybe not this patch, but we got /roll

actually, unlike funhulks, I actually plan on using this feature for a few specific reasons

Aikar Walmoor

12-28-2010, 06:42 AM

I like to play and games online. i am really happy by looking the dark fall game which one is new for me. it is really strategy game with fun. its provide excellent comedy to the players. i am so attract and excite by this game which gives extra ordinary entertainment and refreshment to the players.

cant help but lol with this shit :lmao:

Frosth

12-28-2010, 09:34 AM