Treasure Hunting (Expansion Feature)

[Laenih]

Ever dreamt of following in the footsteps of legendary treasure-hunters to uncover valuable hidden artifacts? This is for all you explorers and adventurers out there who love to find special treasures! Hunting monsters for their loot now has the added opportunity of discovering Darkfall's new treasure maps.

In order to get down to business, you'll need to speak with your resident NPCs who will teach you the necessary skills to read maps. They'll also teach you how to make your own shovel in order to dig up the buried objects.

Darkfall's treasure maps come in different varieties and some could be much more valuable than others. If you don't want to do the dirty work yourself, you can become a map trader and deal in these precious objects instead. Treasure maps can be traded, sold, and even pried from the cold hands of your victims.

After a treasure map has come into your possession, you can activate it in your backpack or bag and the treasure map details will appear on your screen. Don’t' expect the maps to give away their secret that easily. Unfortunately these maps are quite old and so they might be frayed, withered and torn making it difficult to make out the exact location of the treasure. They will however point you in the right direction and provide plenty of hints for you.

For now, as long as you have one or more Treasure Maps in your backpack, you will be able to dig up the associated items. We are already planning on expanding this system, which means you can expect additional treasure hunt features being added on top of the one we talked about today.

Let the digging begin! (http://www.darkfallonline.com/images/trasure_hunt_01.jpg)

[Acaelus Thorne]

cool :D Pirate rp inc

[Brazlar]

Yey! Supercool! :)

[smackyou]

1st and that sounds cool :D

[Arasa]

=o

[smackyou]

and forogot to mention nice sand fitures and pose xD

(oh and sry wasnt first...too slow and i cant edit) :P

[mulle]

yeahaaa

[Thornir]

Not bad at all :) Looking forward to seeing how this turns out.

[Lord Zeb]

Nice.

Cool feature, nice spotlight, and I hope they will implement a system to make your own maps, burying your own treasures. :cool:

Not what is needed to make the world work, but definitely a cool feature worth working on beside the rest.

[decas]

really nice :) Well job!!!!!

[MikeJT]

I always thought this game needed gay pirates posing with shovels.

...I mean treasure maps.

[GreyEminence]

i hope the shovels are also weapons, nothing beats chasing noobs out of your city with a raised shovel.

[paxprobellum]

Nice, looking forward to this. Hope the rewards are good and widely varying.

[Asnar]

Uber!

Great stuff

Keep up the good work fellas

[peertje]

this seems a amazing feature! keep up these spotlights!

[MikeJT]

Hope the rewards are good and widely varying.

Careful what you wish for.

"Your reward for completing this trade route is 10 nacre!"

[Nalle]

awesome i love shit like that! :D

[Brother Justin]

Great stuff guys :)

[Ivanhoe]

The rewards better not be shit .

[thecool444]

Awesome, very exited for this feature.

[GreyEminence]

The rewards better not be shit .

one major pot of your choice and 128 gold. :D

[doomahx]

As long as the rewards have a chance to be really good, this will be pretty cool.

[Wyndal]

Excellent... now THIS is a sandbox tool! :rolleyes:


good show, good show.

[Ivanhoe]

one major pot of your choice and 128 gold. :D

:(

[prodeForesta]

I like this

[smoke2000]

good feature, hope it's worthwhile and doesnt die out after 5 days like the 2 merchant routes.

[AETORAS-GR]

NO PAINT?all other works we have do !!!

[Captain Kirk]

Nice, Just hope the droprate on maps is good enough so people will be out in the world digging.

[OGuz]

nice feature... more news about the features please

[Nerathas]

Nice feature, but will be never used like this trade routes unless it has really GOOD rewards.

Hopefully they will get it this time around.

[blob]

great new feature AV this kind of stuff game needs.

[AgwangIsAwesome]

i hope my treasure hunting pose is that cool.......

[Laxe]

thanks, first expansion feature that is awesome :D

[GreyEminence]

i hope my treasure hunting pose is that cool.......

i hope that emote makes it into the game together with burping and farting.

nothing beats farting at the corpse of your enemy.

[Darkwood]

cool feature, nice spotlight, and i hope they will implement a system to make your own maps, burying your own treasures. :cool:+1

yay! :)

[Temko Firewing]

okay, okay...

...who took the devs hostege and force 'm to give us info?

[Falesh]

Sounds good! Hopefully this will get people roaming around too for more random open world PvP action! Keep the info coming. :D

[GRCPan]

Now that's a great feature, let's just hope that it plays as good as it sounds.

[GreyEminence]

Sounds good! Hopefully this will get people roaming around too for more random open world PvP action! Keep the info coming. :D

best fix for that is still raising skill gains from other players...

[DeadlyHit]

I can't believe theres something good in this expac :ohno:

[DAA KAPUTTMACHA]

Thank you for that cool feature and thank you for the spotlight about it! :)


PLS keep the spotlights coming during the following days and weeks; it makes the waiting for the expansion much more bearable.

[blob]

Nice feature, but will be never used like this trade routes unless it has really GOOD rewards.

Hopefully they will get it this time around.

trade routes are good idea but its just not worth to travel for 40 min risking 5000g to get 4500g and some random low lvl stuff. they can fix that too

it would be cool for tresure maps that best maps haev more parts so you have to get them trading other players that have found map whit same mark as yours. for geting 4 parts of best map whit same mark reward shold be super cool.

[Mr.Duck]

Awesome.

[Shogunate Royal]

Yes digging skill!!!!

[linki]

best fix for that is still raising skill gains from other players...

that would just bring back the old blood walls :bang:

excellent spotlight looking forward to this :D

[Taneos]

Great Feature ! This for once really brings People out and in to the world !
Now PLEASE make them have treasures that are worth going for them instead of just selling them like Veilron keys, AND the most important, don't make it another SUPER RARE drop like Deeds and Addons !

[Solvito]

good guys...

u have drawn my hand closer to the resub button...too bad u push it away a LOT. keep the spotlights coming and ffs dont miss the new eta. i was going to play df´s expansion after my june exams, and now its going to be after i finish my degree -_-....

[EKS]

Nice this could be cool.

[Blackdrag0n]

sounds interesting, but perhaps a more critical spotlight.

[GreyEminence]

that would just bring back the old blood walls :bang:


it wouldn't because I kinda implied that you cant get skills of greens anymore, like you dont get alignment from them. i mean who on earth is so retarded and actually implements alignmentgains from greens. HOHOHO UNTHINKABLE....seriosuly some people will never learn.

[Ararik]

Awesome feature! :cool:

[Laenih]

okay, okay...

...who took the devs hostege and force 'm to give us info?

We threatened to unplug the fridge..

[Liquid20]

Looks interesting, something i'll definitely try. Thanks for the update, can't wait for more info on the xpack!

[BlueOreo]

THANK YOU.

This is the kind of content your playerbase wants.

It doesn't completely shatter the immersion.

It puts players out into the world.

It provides an activity for the community to get into.

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Looks awesome. ;)

[Ezar]

Nice,

So now we have chests with fish, too!

[Ezar]

(That was a hint indicating that these rewards should not be pointless or so will this system be.)

[raapnaap]

The big question is...

Can we kill and gank people with the shovel?

[GreyEminence]

We threatened to unplug the fridge..

i always knew that AV was just some giant greece booze center.

[GreyEminence]

The big question is...

Can we kill and gank people with the shovel?

this because I already asked the same and NO ANSWEAR!!11

[Sarphus]

Awesome!

[Wizmac]

I like treasyre , but you gotta go out with more than studded pants , you gotta be fkn strapped .

[Ktorr]

coming 2013?

A bit optimistic I think.

[SEOINAGE]

This could be cool, but why not allow us to place our own treasures that people could find.

[Ginger Magician]

I believe SWG had something similar.

Nice bit of fluff and I hope the rewards will be worthwhile.

Get rid of the useless broken chests and low value treasure chests in the world and replace them with a decent loot reward.

[blob]

This could be cool, but why not allow us to place our own treasures that people could find.

player made tresure map is cool idea too and can be used for events.

[Dolmar]

In ultima online Tmap hunters made great cash and you could get the maps from fishing and mob drops.
The treasure from maps was lvl of map dependent very cool feature they are adding and will add alot of content and something to do besides pvp pve.
Its importent if your going to bring in more peepz. Great addition to the sandbox!

[nohuko]

Thank you AV this looks wonderful. Although if you cruised around in just those pants you'd be asking for an ass whippin, just sayin.

[zimike]

Ever dreamt of following in the footsteps of legendary treasure-hunters to uncover valuable hidden artifacts? This is for all you explorers and adventurers out there who love to find special treasures! Hunting monsters for their loot now has the added opportunity of discovering Darkfall's new treasure maps.

In order to get down to business, you'll need to speak with your resident NPCs who will teach you the necessary skills to read maps. They'll also teach you how to make your own shovel in order to dig up the buried objects.

Darkfall's treasure maps come in different varieties and some could be much more valuable than others. If you don't want to do the dirty work yourself, you can become a map trader and deal in these precious objects instead. Treasure maps can be traded, sold, and even pried from the cold hands of your victims.

After a treasure map has come into your possession, you can activate it in your backpack or bag and the treasure map details will appear on your screen. Don’t' expect the maps to give away their secret that easily. Unfortunately these maps are quite old and so they might be frayed, withered and torn making it difficult to make out the exact location of the treasure. They will however point you in the right direction and provide plenty of hints for you.

For now, as long as you have one or more Treasure Maps in your backpack, you will be able to dig up the associated items. We are already planning on expanding this system, which means you can expect additional treasure hunt features being added on top of the one we talked about today.

Let the digging begin! (http://www.darkfallonline.com/images/trasure_hunt_01.jpg)

woot!.. This was my idea a while back and I am sure others have suggested it as well :) I can't wait!!

[L0FT]

Nice! :)

[Ragnarok Delrhe]

I can't believe theres something good in this expac :ohno:

you didnt hear about dungeons yet.

[Stone Dog]

We threatened to unplug the fridge..

rofl

[DramaQueen]

super!!!!

[Dingbat]

Really cool, feature worth waiting for indeed.

(no sarcasm)

[Realbigdeal22]

Wow, great. Anything that promote exploring is a welcome feature to a sandbox mmorpg. I hope there will be treasure place under water or on small land to promote Pirate Treasure hunter.

[Junkaboy]

Hmmm, soudns cool at first, but reminds me of the "promisse" of the chaos chests...

lets hope we wont be running around digging for potatoes or 78g...

[Avefenix]

Nice feature indeed

[HoolCelt]

Great feature, and please make a complicate system for the trade routes and villages and we will have fun for a long time.

[sc0r0wnz]

Orolt's with came treuuuuuu!

[lolox]

Nice :)

:):):):):):)

[sc0r0wnz]

*wish, you can't edit here :(

[forestchild]

Nice, looking forward to this. Hope the rewards are good and widely varying.

Already starting to demand or maybe a posible whine before even implemented?

Seems great featers and addition for exploring AGON, so dont start demand this or whine about that ok :)

[Niburu]

My opinion:
Let's see what the drop rate is and how the reward is----> looking to trade routes and the Stat potions


And also EVERYONE can be a fighter/crafter/treasure hunter.......that annoy
's me the most



Thanks for the Update and really nice writeup

[EliteChris]

lets hope we wont be running around digging for potatoes or 78g...

Digging for a stack of 20 potatoes or something would be awesome, not the 78g though :D

[CattBoy]

VERY COOL!

Lets hope the rewards make these Treasure hunts useful, unlike trade routes

[Alberton]

Very cool, one of my favourite UO features.

Now just bring in champion spawns and I'll subscribe for a year at a time :)

[mxking]

nice!

[Aikar Walmoor]

Good feature , thats the stuff the game needs, keep them coming!!!

[rbeck]

I like it, let´s hope that it gets properly implemented. This might spark off even more awesome player made events.

[Corp-Por]

The Uo Tmap hunt will work well here, I like!

[Mr Miyagi]

i just love this feautre but i already fear that what we'll se will be a 200g treasure chest 99.999% of the time and an house deed 0.0001% of the times :)

[Death's Chill]

See, THIS is a cool, non-direct combat feature. I love it. Keep this kind of stuff up, it really is cool!

[JimmyOmaha]

Sweet, looks like a cool add-on!

Cheers!

[Draugen]

I like the sound of this too.

I did at first think it'll be 150 gold & a herring like most random things in darkfall.. however, when it says some maps are more valuable than others, makes me think these will be scaled, like neithal, theyril chest etc that have worthwhile rewards. These drop of mobs of the appropriate difficulty.

Nice update :cool:

[natedagreat]

epiccccccc! this is exactly the sand i wanted in my sandbox!! its like christmas all over!

[Rigan Pere]

Awesome little feature, now I just hope it's not as stupidly rare like useful spell scrolls and books to get the maps...

[DeManiac]

One thought spring to mind, part of it being nice and shiny specially combined with the last mentioned features, the "event sticks" that allow you to make your own treasure hunts to go along with these.

The thing I is, how many will there be, if you think of these as quests, these are questlines you can get as drops.
It's not like Chaos chests that spawn randomly and then it's done.

If there are 10 "basic" treasure-maps 6 advanced and two superior, will these "quests" be static or dynamic?
Due to the fact there are maps tied to them it sounds pretty static to me.
That the location of these won't be dynamic results in people being able to check these areas same way they check entrances to dungeons.

Once you have completed these maps once, the next time you get one it will be nearly the same.


I'm not saying it's a bad feature, I love it!
However I think there could be some work done to get a dynamic system implemented aswel to go along with it.
A system where you don't get a drawn map, instead a dynamically created location similar to the Chaos Chest spawning randomly, a system where it gives hint such as north of, location, or east of location or close to and similar, like I believe you already have but it's dynamic with the amount of details deciding if it's basic, advanced or superior.

[Varner]

Booyah! It's about damn time you added the "Treasure Trails" feature from runescape.

Go to http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Treasure_trails :D :D oh and a :ninja:

[Helcular]

Rare materials please!

[Xathian]

one of my FAVOURITE! features of Ultima online, treasure hunting

[goodkingjohn]

Now this is awsome!!

As an amature Archaeologist in RL I am looking forward to testing this stuff out in game. Nice one Aventurine

[ChinaCat]

Sweet !!

[Skilla]

Booyah! It's about damn time you added the "Treasure Trails" feature from runescape.

Go to http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Treasure_trails :D :D oh and a :ninja:

lol Yea now they need to add all the other features as well and we will be set.

[Keno]

This could be really sick, awesome job!

[ZeroCool]

This would be a cool feature as long as the dug up treasures are worth a good amount. Not just another chaos chest or regular chest.

[Zarithas]

Great idea, but please make the treasure something better than 412 gold, 3 rubies, and 2 uncooked lobster.

[Aspario]

Awesome! :D Can't wait for the expansion! :)

[Lobos GoreFang]

YARRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!

Fuckin epic idea :)

[Chris Windblade]

indeed

my master would applaud you posthumously!


it looks pirate,it smells pirate yaaaaarrrrrrrr!




ps love the land scape. let the two love birds know they are producing awesome art in this game. well the other ones too hehe

[Kasmos]

Now this is a sandbox feature Aventurine. Extremely excited about this!

But like others have said, make the drops not so rare for the maps, and make the rewards worth going after. You do this and you may have a great system on your hands.

[Mandatory]

Cool

[Stanleyxd]

treasure hunting with a funhulk, now that awesome! :D

[screw loose]

Great idea, but please make the treasure something better than 412 gold, 3 rubies, and 2 uncooked lobster.

lawl

[Ayl]

Awesome!

As an improvement, could be nice to also have players being able to hide their treasures and making maps for them. I'm thinking about quest for youg players : hide a small chest in the middle of a spawn. They need to find it, kill the mobs and then dig for the treasure!

[Ayl]

thanks, first expansion feature that is awesome :D

I'd say second. The roaming mobs was the first one, if memory does not fail me and its part of that XPack.

[Demon.Cleaner]

It will be all the neglected chaos chests: 120 gold reward incoming.

[Mobed]

Very nice.

P.S. more of this, less silence, Kay!

[kilrain]

Nice.

Cool feature, nice spotlight, and I hope they will implement a system to make your own maps, burying your own treasures. :cool:

Not what is needed to make the world work, but definitely a cool feature worth working on beside the rest.

Actually, this type of thing is what is needed to make the world work (along with actually making it function correctly)

awesome feature!

[Biytor]

1st and that sounds cool :D

You were 3rd, but yeah it still sounds cool

[Keno]

Great idea, but please make the treasure something better than 412 gold, 3 rubies, and 2 uncooked lobster.

This, if the stuff you get outa it is useless, than the entire system will be useless, please make the rewards actually good and worth while!

[AmonDominus]

Fantastic idea. Cant wait!

[Kimoshu]

Very cool, this is the kind of fluff stuff I like to see :D

2 thumbs up from this Alfar!

-Andrew

[lkx]

Very, very nice. At leat on the paper.
Lets see how it's implemented however, these could be either awesome or useless.
The best thing would be various type of maps: some with low rewards, but not so rare, and some with great reward but harder to drop.

Anyway, this is the way, and thank you for the unexpected saturday spotlight! :)

[foggen]

ok since my last post got deleted by mods for using too much space.

A cool feature of darkfall online would be; players.

[kilrain]

ok since my last post got deleted by mods for using too much space.

A cool feature of darkfall online would be; players.

Treasure map features along with as many other features you can add WILL AID IN BRINGING IN AND KEEPING PLAYERS, get a fucking clue bro.

[Greefer]

Something new ill give you that.

At least Adventurine thinks outside the box and doesnt just copy everyone else.

[Mr Miyagi]

please make the rewards actually good and worth while!

[Mister T]

Guess everyone here hopes for the lower tier maps (that drop from noob mobs) to drop a few k, and the decent maps to drop alot of niceness :D + alot of stuff in the middle.

GREAT ADDITION :D just make sure its a substaintial reward (and a commom drop) and everyone will be happy :)

[Alderdale]

it wouldn't because I kinda implied that you cant get skills of greens anymore, like you dont get alignment from them. i mean who on earth is so retarded and actually implements alignmentgains from greens. HOHOHO UNTHINKABLE....seriosuly some people will never learn.

Cause people wouldnt just have two accounts farming stats off factions, or their red buddy holed up somewhere macroing, nah that would never happen.

[GreyEminence]

Cause people wouldnt just have two accounts farming stats off factions, or their red buddy holed up somewhere macroing, nah that would never happen.

well then AV should do the same they should do to prevent alt alignment farming: locking a players worth of alignment/skillgains after x damage done to him or x times killed.

[Troy McShall]

I already love it.

[Santharix]

Awesome work av.

Thank you for communicating... and thanks for adding a great idea.

[Tzacharu]

Reminds me of RuneScape treasure maps.

Only those were almost useless unless you found the very rare items. Hopefully most treasure maps will not be useless, but this does sound like an interesting addition if it works.

[Ktorr]

Something new ill give you that.

At least Adventurine thinks outside the box and doesnt just copy everyone else.

Might not be that "NEW", depends on how they do it.

UO has Treasure Maps, Level 1 - 6.

Level 1 : 1k gold, regs, and several low end magic items.
Level 2 : 2k gold, more regs and more low end magic items.
Level 3 : 3k, regs and more med level magic items.
Level 4 : 4k, regs, stuff.
Level 5 : 5k, regs, more stuff.
Level 6 : 6k, regs even more stuff, and 1 special item

All level maps were soloable.

[griM']

This is where these roaming mobs and special mobs come into play, you try digging and that shit pops up. Sounds awsome.

[shamer gamer]

All good things in time. Thank you AV <3

Many of us realize you are a small company and not a multi-billion dollar miracle worker corp like some seem to expect.

[frizzles]

so do we dig the map up instantly? do random *HARD* mobs spawn to make it more interesting and to make more opportune times for a random to attack a group.

[neon sheild]

w00t! w00t!
This is what we like to hear!:)
keep up the good work AV! this is an awesome feature, and I'm sure as long as you keep posting updates like this, people will stay happy!:):):)

[Orolt Lifebring]

As i thought it would be when you mentionned treasure maps.

I have 2 concerns though:

-Loot better be good :D

-Since it says that maps aren't as simple as giving you the loc and etc... i am really fearing that there's only a bunch of 50 set places where a treasure can be and each time you get a map it points out to one of those locations.

Why?? Because after a month everyone will know all the locations and there will be no more fun deciphering the map, just saying "oh this is a map for X location".

It HAS to be random, the maps have to be somewhat randomly generated and unique each time, and further on... It is essential if you don't want this to go into oblivion after a month.

[JCatano]

For now, as long as you have one or more Treasure Maps in your backpack, you will be able to dig up the associated items. We are already planning on expanding this system, which means you can expect additional treasure hunt features being added on top of the one we talked about today.

Sounds very cool. My concern is the implementation, though. I don't know why the team doesn't feel the need to code in a complete feature.

Trade routes and villages are being implemented in stages, and you see where that's gone (boredom).

[Keno]

Trade routes and villages are being implemented in stages, and you see where that's gone (boredom).

Qft

[Vhaeraun]

sweet a new feature that was in another game over a decade ago. keep innovating the MMO world, Av!

[frogg]

This is the kind of thing people have in mind when they ask for more sandbox features.

Nice work.

[Leg enD]

lets hope theyre not set locations :( (unless there's 1000's anyway)

i wanna be sneaking into enemy cities digging up my 'pro-scroll' at 1am

[Zalasahr]

yea love this feature ..( its not a main feature) very nice...Ultimo Online feeling INC .) :sly:

[Suncross]

Wow. So the humans get to keep their "metro sexual" bandana around their neck.... nice....

[Yinn]

I like this but my question is.... Is there going to be items exclusive to treasure hunting. Like you can only find them in treasure hunting. DF needs more rare items like what I'm talking about.

[blob]

you should make a tool in game or out of game does not metter for players so they can made treasure maps and send you so you can pick good maps and put them in map database. after you find treasure map revels the mapmaker. rewards for player made maps can be set by AV or you can choese small, med, big reward when you make map.

[ghostinthedark]

This is the kinda stuff darkfall needs !

[Grandpa Skaldir]

All stuff like this is awsome, IMO and gets loud cheers from me.

*Cheers loudly*

:) Nice one, AV!

[Aikar Walmoor]

As i thought it would be when you mentionned treasure maps.

I have 2 concerns though:

-Loot better be good :D

-Since it says that maps aren't as simple as giving you the loc and etc... i am really fearing that there's only a bunch of 50 set places where a treasure can be and each time you get a map it points out to one of those locations.

Why?? Because after a month everyone will know all the locations and there will be no more fun deciphering the map, just saying "oh this is a map for X location".

It HAS to be random, the maps have to be somewhat randomly generated and unique each time, and further on... It is essential if you don't want this to go into oblivion after a month.

Yeah but i get the feeling it will be randomly generated.

[Rahkim]

One thought spring to mind, part of it being nice and shiny specially combined with the last mentioned features, the "event sticks" that allow you to make your own treasure hunts to go along with these.

The thing I is, how many will there be, if you think of these as quests, these are questlines you can get as drops.
It's not like Chaos chests that spawn randomly and then it's done.

If there are 10 "basic" treasure-maps 6 advanced and two superior, will these "quests" be static or dynamic?
Due to the fact there are maps tied to them it sounds pretty static to me.
That the location of these won't be dynamic results in people being able to check these areas same way they check entrances to dungeons.

Once you have completed these maps once, the next time you get one it will be nearly the same.


I'm not saying it's a bad feature, I love it!
However I think there could be some work done to get a dynamic system implemented aswel to go along with it.
A system where you don't get a drawn map, instead a dynamically created location similar to the Chaos Chest spawning randomly, a system where it gives hint such as north of, location, or east of location or close to and similar, like I believe you already have but it's dynamic with the amount of details deciding if it's basic, advanced or superior.

Its pretty awesome that you know how this feature will be implemented. Really. Thanks for enlightening us all with your abundance of knowledge on the matter.

At OP:
Sounds interesting, hope they're worthwhile and that it's fun to track down the maps and treasures.

[Wizard of Yndor]

The Uo Tmap hunt will work well here, I like!


On paper, sure the idea is swell. But DFO does not have instant travel like UO did. Not everyone here has the same access to ease of travel all over the map.

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10 pages of posts all saying "good! great! wonderful!" But I see one thing I don't like about this, and I'm going to have to be the devils advocate here.

All I see of the outcome of this feature is that zerg clans with 20+ holdings scattered all over the map are going to be the only ones who get to really enjoy this feature.

Portal hop city to city get close to the treasure, loot up, portal to next city close to the next treasure spot... rinse and repeat...

Clans without holdings are going to be shit out of luck to enjoy this. All they will be able to do is hope to sell the maps at a decent price.


This feature does more to reward those who already have everything in their favor, and does little to nothing for everyone else.

So hurry up zerglings, go take some extra holdings to maximize your treasure hunt loot per hour gains. Get those portals ready to do some serious map hopping, and reap the rewards of portal power at it's finest.

Anyone wanna take bets if AV considered this angle?

[Orolt Lifebring]

On paper, sure the idea is swell. But DFO does not have instant travel like UO did. Not everyone here has the same access to ease of travel all over the map.

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10 pages of posts all saying "good! great! wonderful!" But I see one thing I don't like about this, and I'm going to have to be the devils advocate here.

All I see of the outcome of this feature is that zerg clans with 20+ holdings scattered all over the map are going to be the only ones who get to really enjoy this feature.

Portal hop city to city get close to the treasure, loot up, portal to next city close to the next treasure spot... rinse and repeat...

Clans without holdings are going to be shit out of luck to enjoy this. All they will be able to do is hope to sell the maps at a decent price.


This feature does more to reward those who already have everything in their favor, and does little to nothing for everyone else.

So hurry up zerglings, go take some extra holdings to maximize your treasure hunt loot per hour gains. Get those portals ready to do some serious map hopping, and reap the rewards of portal power at it's finest.

Anyone wanna take bets if AV considered this angle?

No. Everyone can travel, you don't need portals to get to a treasure. Portals are bad when it comes to short times, when it comes to getting to a specific place with plenty of time, portals aren't that big of an advantage to the clan owning.

[Wizard of Yndor]

No. Everyone can travel, you don't need portals to get to a treasure. Portals are bad when it comes to short times, when it comes to getting to a specific place with plenty of time, portals aren't that big of an advantage to the clan owning.

Orolt, it's fairly obvious that players don't need portals to travel to the locations. The point is that those with more portals spread across the land will have a much greater advantage over those who have no portals.

[incognit0]

Orolt, it's fairly obvious that players don't need portals to travel to the locations. The point is that those with more portals spread across the land will have a much greater advantage over those who have no portals.

if you think it's really that big of a deal you could y'know sneak through an enemy's portal. if you're too much of a baddie to do that, you can always ask to use it.

[fCo_Pancho]

Very cool, one of my favourite UO features.

Now just bring in champion spawns and I'll subscribe for a year at a time :)DF isn't short on empty wilderness altars.

[Necron Wraith]

if you think it's really that big of a deal you could y'know sneak through an enemy's portal. if you're too much of a baddie to do that, you can always ask to use it.

Yes, it's really not very hard to launch in to somebody's city and use the portal quickily. 9 times out of 10, you'll have no resistance, atleast on EU-1. Hopefully that number changes when the expansion comes out.

This. It's really easy, at least on EU-1. 9 times out of 10, you'll have little trouble launching in to an enemy holding, and using their portal entrance.. but it depends on the city. Sure, it's 1 extra shard, but they're easy enough to get.

[Necron Wraith]

Oops, thought I deleted the similar paragraph. Damn the no editing.

[Synik]

Good job av!
So glad to hear about this, first crafty type skill I'll grind.

[Nancy Spungen]

I think this will be an awesome new option for the gaming community. I've herd some concerns voiced about not being able to get to the multitude of locations treasure may be hidden at. It shouldn't need to be a problem unless there are time limits on using the maps. I would just stock pile them in my bank until I was taking a trip cross continent. I do not belong to a big clan with multiple holdings and I have still managed to see most of the world. My only concern is hoping that when they first come out maps drop frequently so we can get comfortable with how to use them.

[Nothung]

On paper, sure the idea is swell. But DFO does not have instant travel like UO did. Not everyone here has the same access to ease of travel all over the map.

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10 pages of posts all saying "good! great! wonderful!" But I see one thing I don't like about this, and I'm going to have to be the devils advocate here.

All I see of the outcome of this feature is that zerg clans with 20+ holdings scattered all over the map are going to be the only ones who get to really enjoy this feature.

Portal hop city to city get close to the treasure, loot up, portal to next city close to the next treasure spot... rinse and repeat...

Clans without holdings are going to be shit out of luck to enjoy this. All they will be able to do is hope to sell the maps at a decent price.


This feature does more to reward those who already have everything in their favor, and does little to nothing for everyone else.

So hurry up zerglings, go take some extra holdings to maximize your treasure hunt loot per hour gains. Get those portals ready to do some serious map hopping, and reap the rewards of portal power at it's finest.

Anyone wanna take bets if AV considered this angle?

i see were your coming from, make it so if you were kill a mob on ruby the treasure map should be for ruby or a small island near ruby, harder mobs like a dragon would maybe have high level treasure maps that would lead you around the world. it would be lame if u killed mob on niff and had to go to carin, only clans or zergs with access to binds on each continent would benefit from this

[Solvito]

All good things in time. Thank you AV <3

Many of us realize you are a small company and not a multi-billion dollar miracle worker corp like some seem to expect.

stfu man, u will end up like xipher, unsubscribed.

most of the ppl that complain still hang around, u will unsub like a lot of fanboys have before...

[smeagollum]

Nice!

[L0FT]

We threatened to unplug the fridge..

Please, do that again! :ninja:

[Epelein]

celiah ailey should come back to play now !

[-morph-]

Great news. Can't wait to go treasure hunting in my FUN HULK with a party hat on.

Should keep me busy for at least six months.

[Drake Aran]

So... is this feature already working or do we have to wait for the next expansion?

[bakken]

omfg thats so awesome

[Mifun]

I love this thing <3

[Aikar Walmoor]

I love this thing <3

and i love mifun <3

[Sauce XVI]

i hope the shovels are also weapons, nothing beats chasing noobs out of your city with a raised shovel.

Please

[ISVRaDa]

Sounds really good the new treasure hunting system but we need wait and test it ourselves to see how works and his possibilities.

[arustyrobot]

great addition! Really glad to see a spotlight so soon:D

[Sinny]

One thing I can do in Darkfall I can't do in other MMO's is every once in a while I'll go out exploring, this will make it even better.

thanks for the update!

[ninogan]

Fun :)

[Methows]

They could facilitate the creation of small boats.

The treasures could be found at sea too.

They have to raise the loot and the FireDragon kraken.

[Methows]

They could facilitate the creation of small boats.

The treasures could be found at sea too.

They have to raise the loot and the FireDragon kraken.

It's time to remove the chaos chests ...

[Supercedde]

No, it is time to give chaos chest negative outcomes! it is chaos afterall! maybe a mob will spawn, or you will get hit by a surging debuff.

[Methows]

No, it is time to give chaos chest negative outcomes! it is chaos afterall! maybe a mob will spawn, or you will get hit by a surging debuff.

i prefer chance to drop houses and rare itens inside maps q5.

[Supercedde]

i prefer chance to drop houses and rare itens inside maps q5.

You just want things given to you? how about AV fills your bank with the brim with gold rare ore, rare items rare enchanting materials?

There should be a possebility of a bonecrew mob to appear when you dig for the treasure.

[Thes]

Great feature !

tho i have a question, can the "treasure" be found by someone else then the map owner ?

I mean, let's say i'm the most lucky bastard and *PAF /clan lolololol i just found a treasure !!! what happen if an other guy own the map of this treasure ? will it be deleted ? empty when he find the treasure ?

Thank you

[Kaylyn]

Very nice feature!

[Booka]

like it

[Rayrox222]

I believe SWG had something similar.

Nice bit of fluff and I hope the rewards will be worthwhile.

Get rid of the useless broken chests and low value treasure chests in the world and replace them with a decent loot reward.

I was thinking UO and yes that game definitely had something similar. I know because I still play it from time to time and do treasure hunts :)

First their system had set locations a treasure could be found at; maybe around 50 in total so people would make an archive of all possible treasure spots so it was too easy to find the treasure. Lately they've randomized it to make treasures found possibly in any part of the world so long as it can be reached so you can dig there. Maps I'd say have somewhere between a 1-5% chance I'd say of dropping off of a mob in UO and I think that's a decent chance.

Additionally in UO, the value of the treasure to be found is based on the difficulty of the mob that dropped it, and I think that would carry over well in Darkfall. A goblin's treasure map would not yield a particularly great reward but a menhir sentinel's would be quite good. Actually in UO they sorted it out in something like 5 or 6 different "levels" of treasure maps based on general mob difficulty that dropped said map. What clearly happened in UO which does not look like it will happen in Darkfall treasure hunts is once you dig up the treasure, mobs would spawn with the chest to defend the treasure so you would need to defeat them first before being able to get to the chest.

In addition, UO had the feature of lockpicking and trap removal skills as treasure chests would always be locked and trapped so you'd have to take care of that before getting to the loot. You need cartography skill to decipher the treasure map (be able to double click it to view it and see the actual map to ascertain the treasure's location). Lower level maps dropped by easier mobs took little cartography skill to decipher, and higher level ones took higher skills of cartagraphy; skill cap of 100 much like Darkfall's skill system. Hell you even needed mining skill to use a shovel and higher mining skill meant you could be a little further from the dig site and still uncover the treasure when choosing to dig there. However in Darkfall it looks like it's been simplified much like NPCs teaching you how to read scrolls to learn spells/skills; you buy that once and it doesn't skill up; you're good to go for all treasure hunts. I prefer that they remove more skills to grind in Darkfall and just let you get on with the treasure hunt because that's really the fun part of it all.

I'm fine with just the fun of figuring out where the treasure is and digging it up. The only fights would be mobs that might just happen to spawn near where the treasure is or players that happen to be in that area, and that sounds like what Darkfall's system will be like.

In sum I think this sounds GREAT so long as 1) drop rate of maps is decent. I think they should be AT LEAST as frequent as skill/spell scrolls dropping though I think that's on the low end and probably should drop a bit more often; 2) reward is worth the trouble of the hunt; 3) possible treasure locations are randomized and reachable anywhere in Agon where digging is possible and not set locations like the way it used to be in UO, or else treasure hunting becomes too easy once people have written all the coordinates for possible treasure spawns.

This is great stuff AV and I too am excited about it, hoping it is well implemented :)

Thank you for the spotlight!!

[Coca]

So you could craft a shovel but not any of the other tools in agon... lame...

You should be able to craft ALL tools in the game.



If your Lumber jack skills is 100 and your mastery is 100 it should boost your ability to fight with an axe. Same thing with a blacksmiths using hammers.
Skinning and knife skill.

So on and so on..bleh

UO RULESET 4TW...

Treasure chests better have some fuggin treasure in them instead of being like a selintine key that I don't even bother to loot anymore..or worse chaos chest loot.... really ??!!??


What about fishing up a message in a bottle...
that would give people a reward that were grinding the most boreing skill in the game.
Or just fishing up a treasure in general.

[Herbalist]

Epic feature! I'm glad that the game goes to direction like this :cool:

[Rayrox222]

So you could craft a shovel but not any of the other tools in agon... lame...

You should be able to craft ALL tools in the game.


not a big deal imo 20 gp tools and probably all it would do to have that in is people would macro produce inexpensive tools to gain smith skill


If your Lumber jack skills is 100 and your mastery is 100 it should boost your ability to fight with an axe. Same thing with a blacksmiths using hammers.
Skinning and knife skill.

So on and so on..bleh

UO RULESET 4TW...

Nah it would effectively force harvesting skills on players who don't want to tediously harvest to be viable since their combat wouldn't be as effectively hard hitting as those with the harvesting skills. lol you could add 100 herb gathering giving a bonus to sithra damage since they're like sickles but it's all just silly when you think about it. Does nothing but adds another skill set to grind to 100 and then there's "mastery" for that harvesting skill and players desire LESS of a grind in Darkfall not MORE it's just a bad idea given the great many players who despise grinding skills up in Darkfall don't give them more to worry about grinding than they already have. Now I could be selfish and say yay to this since I harvest my ass off and already have surging skills of every mastery except for fishing but imo it's just plain a bad idea to force harvesting on every warrior who doesn't want to do it just so he can do a little more damage.

Only reason I brought up UO (staying in subject with the spotlight) is because they have a working treasure hunting system which Darkfall should consider as they design their own so it ends up being a huge success for their players.

[Mikethk]

Totally seen this in SWG. As bounty hunter. And its a cool ingame feature. In SWG the bounty hunter tracked not treasures but players (as jedis), to kill and earn money.

I see foward to this.

[Avefenix]

Totally seen this in SWG. As bounty hunter. And its a cool ingame feature. In SWG the bounty hunter tracked not treasures but players (as jedis), to kill and earn money.

I see foward to this.

Swg pre cu had awesome features ( i didnt play it) but some mates of me along the years, remember that mmo with passion and some very nostalgic moments.

I imagine like mirdain to have a track for kill alfars would be awesome , like mirdain has some skills with hunter requeriments, to watch players far away than rest of races

[Edd]

THANK YOU.

This is the kind of content your playerbase wants.

It doesn't completely shatter the immersion.

It puts players out into the world.

It provides an activity for the community to get into.

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Looks awesome. ;)

x2

THANK YOU DEVS

[Ragnarok Delrhe]

So you could craft a shovel but not any of the other tools in agon... lame...

You should be able to craft ALL tools in the game.



he's talking of a skill to craft shovels. It doesnt mean they're not going to have that skill craft pickaxes and other tools.

[Coca]

Who doesn't have harvesting mastery to 100 yet?

Anyway,
Player crafted tools would be more duarable
and count towards true forge. Instead of making useless armour peices and rank 0 weapons for the skill gain you could make tools that are actually usefull to your whole clan.



Let me fish up a treasure chest or something random.

I just don't want treasure chest to be dug up and 48 gold goes into your back pack. It has to be BOTH fun and entertaining to do them and the loot must be worth the effort put into it.

[Chidar]

If your copying UO then please make the chests usable as bank and house containers for real items, various quantity limits ofc.
Best to copy another game as accurate as possible dont you think?
A good addition nevertheless.

[Wyndal]

UO really did get these right - aside from the fixed locations, which actually I think are now random.

more thoughts - some repeated...

- maps should be more/less difficult to decipher depending on the difficulty of the mob it dropped from

- maps should spawn mobs when popping the chest, mobs should be of a difficulty equal to that of the chest/map

- should have cartography and lock-picking skills... c'mon it's more crap to grind but so what, these are actually immersion skills and depending on how prestige classes impact magic schools, etc. there may be more room in the future for more skills

- should be able to craft the shovel, but also all other tools

- maps should not spawn treasure in unobtainable places... (i.e. dig "here" on the ocean floor)

// similar use of mechanic , but still different ... yes, copy UO more...

- fishing should have a rare chance to yield message in a bottle (MiB) which has the same t-map map functionality but with more nautically themed treasure/items, deeper sea and/or deep sea mobs should have chance to drop higher quality MiB

[Wyndal]

I just don't want treasure chest to be dug up and 48 gold goes into your back pack. It has to be BOTH fun and entertaining to do them and the loot must be worth the effort put into it.

^^ This, x 100.

I would rather wait for some new applications of existing mechanics to be developed into the game rather than regurgitating the same old stuff (read: introduction of "large clams" and "broken chests" that followed the "chaos chests").

[Wyndal]

- should have cartography and lock-picking skills... c'mon it's more crap to grind but so what, these are actually immersion skills and depending on how prestige classes impact magic schools, etc. there may be more room in the future for more skills

Not to quote myself, BUT...



This mechanic (lock-picking and/or remove-trap) could also be introduced into the dungeons to make those more interesting.

It is also pretty easy to think of neat applications for cities, hamlets, etc...

[paxprobellum]

Not to quote myself, BUT...



This mechanic (lock-picking and/or remove-trap) could also be introduced into the dungeons to make those more interesting.

It is also pretty easy to think of neat applications for cities, hamlets, etc...

All AV needs to do is copy this:

http://www.uoguide.com/Treasure_Map

[Settra]

This is fucking awesome. I have missed this part from old days in UO... this is bound to be a succes.... I just hope they make treasure chests pop monsters so it wont be too easy to get the phat loot.

[Laxe]

ehh very primitive system...

well better than nothing and i hope they will advance it since atm it looks like 5min job

[AmonDominus]

I'm going to be digging around the shores of Agon like a fat kid on skittles. Screw maps, who needs em' :D

[Trixxi]

I'm going to bury my own poos for other players to find! Enjoy!

[ExcursionRob]

Sounds liek they kinda copied SWG's forage system....

[Arquiteto]

Sounds liek they kinda copied SWG's forage system....

You say that like its a bad thing. Games replicate features from other games all the time.


Now if you don't like it move your ass over because that looks like an "X" your standing on.

[ghostinthedark]

there were many games with alot better treasure hunting features that came out before SWG...

[riffordy]

this is cool?