8/14/06, RPG Vault Media Update #3 - Combat screenshots

[Osirus]

http://rpgvault.ign.com/articles/725/725402p1.html

[Preston]

Thanks Osirus! Moved to News.

[Atnas]

The dragon armor again, geesh.

Edit: Well, I like the blood on his bald head.

[Fedamin[SUN]]

new shots? o yea the date is right :D

[doma]

Pretty uninteresting I must say.
I feel like I've seen it a thousand times before.
Even so screens are better then no screens.

Cheers

[gtechie]

This is the first minimap I have seen in a long time. It even comes with coordinates too!

-that is me, trying to find something in these shots to be happy about.

[Gunther TheBlack]

Last pic is like a Bunny hop fatality!!!

[doma]

Double post ftw! please delete

[Viranth]

VERY cool stuff =)

[Stormsblade]

Im not exactly sure what that is, but the blood looks pretty bad on the armor.

Not that I am hating, I would rather have a great combat system then good graphics, and the graphics aint that bad, but some things could use some improvement.

[Geminireaper]

can anyone post direct links to the screenies. I can never view the article because my companys ISA server blocks IGN but for some reason not the exact pictures.

[Marrock]

Good find thanks.

[Slag]

These shots look pretty damn good. The detail looks extensive especially in things like bloodsplatter. The bald dude with the blood on the head and the terriain. Cant wait to see it first hand by splattering some blood myself.:sly:

[Airius Droc]

Last pic is like a Bunny hop fatality!!!

It is, isn't it. (I hope that's a special move and I'm not going to see every one jumping up and down to max out damage or something equally lame)

My question about the pics would concern the positioning of the combatants. They seem to have a lot of space between them from picture to picture. I realize that the players aren't going to just stand next to each other hacking away, but these guys are in full plate! I would think that from one picture to another, the space between characters would be relatively minimal. This suggests to me that there's going to be non-stop strafing in this game, and I think that's a mistake, especially if that armor affords great protection.

The other thing I wanted to point out was that it seems like two people are attacking one, and the one guy is holding them off fairly well. It would really be nice to see a movie showing more combat, even if that movie is just 15 seconds long.

[Osirus]

yeah, a video of this particular encounter would be nice

[boby]

nice :)
Need some more ^^

[Airius Droc]

I'm slow. I just noticed the blood on the grass. I wonder how long that stays there? What a cool feature it would be if you could track someone like that! I know, probably not.

Also, concerning the mini-map, the transparency level seems poor to me. The leaves are blocking at least 50% of the mini-maps functionality. Perhaps players can adjust transparency? Just a thought.

[Irodim]

As I don't get to excited over screenshots I am excited that they have given us SOMETHING every 2-4 days for the last couple of weeks. And from my stand point that makes me happy. For me quality > quantity, but I don't mind quantity.

[kehmesis]

Thanks.

[Airius Droc]

As I don't get to excited over screenshots I am excited that they have given us SOMETHING every 2-4 days for the last couple of weeks. And from my stand point that makes me happy. For me quality > quantity, but I don't mind quantity.

I agree.

[Zangetsu]

The blood idea is nice and all, but it really needs some improvements the way its been displayed in past screenshots, assuming its the red stuff on the characters

[Sarusan]

You know what, i thought dev's will get out of upcomming shyt and complains about what they release, but it looks they like it :ninja: come on, in time where we all wait for beta, and you told us that it will be this year, that kind of update is a shyt :( not even talkin about Dragon Armor again...

Edit: Really, blood on armor looks bad...on grass or in the air perfect but on armor .... it makes it look like some rectangle made in Paint.

[Havoc208]

What happened to "No Minimap" ?

[Niccoli]

can anyone post direct links to the screenies. I can never view the article because my companys ISA server blocks IGN but for some reason not the exact pictures.

Try this for a link to the media page. (http://mediaviewer.ign.com/ignMediaPage.jsp?object_id=16821&channel_id=227&page_title=Darkfall+Media+%233&adString=network%3Dign%26site%3Drpgvault %26pagetype%3Dmedialist&return_url=http%3A%2F%2Frpgvault.ign.com %2Fobjects%2F016%2F016821.html)

Or if you need each one:

Pic 1 (http://mediaviewer.ign.com/ignMediaPage.jsp?media_id=3836611&object_id=16821&channel_id=227&page_title=Darkfall+Media+%233&adtag=network%3Dign%26size%3D468x60%26ch annel%3Drpgvault%26site%3Drpgvault_hub%2 6channel%3Dfeatures%26type%3Dpartner)
Pic 2 (http://mediaviewer.ign.com/ignMediaPage.jsp?media_id=3836610&object_id=16821&channel_id=227&page_title=Darkfall+Media+%233&adtag=network%3Dign%26size%3D468x60%26ch annel%3Drpgvault%26site%3Drpgvault_hub%2 6channel%3Dfeatures%26type%3Dpartner)
Pic 3 (http://mediaviewer.ign.com/ignMediaPage.jsp?media_id=3836603&object_id=16821&channel_id=227&page_title=Darkfall+Media+%233&adtag=network%3Dign%26size%3D468x60%26ch annel%3Drpgvault%26site%3Drpgvault_hub%2 6channel%3Dfeatures%26type%3Dpartner)
Pic 4 (http://mediaviewer.ign.com/ignMediaPage.jsp?media_id=3836604&object_id=16821&channel_id=227&page_title=Darkfall+Media+%233&adtag=network%3Dign%26size%3D468x60%26ch annel%3Drpgvault%26site%3Drpgvault_hub%2 6channel%3Dfeatures%26type%3Dpartner)

[Niccoli]

What happened to "No Minimap" ?

It was 'no radar' not minimap.

[Sarusan]

Means that you cant see enemies on your minimap.

[Irodim]

It was 'no radar' not minimap.
I didn't even notice that there was something in the upper right corner! But I am glad they have the map in and a lat/lon system in place as well as showing where you are in the world.

[Skvate]

the blood on the armor seems a bit off compared to the blood on the head. Both in colour and "shapes".

[Asmodeus]

I'm slow. I just noticed the blood on the grass. I wonder how long that stays there? What a cool feature it would be if you could track someone like that! I know, probably not.

Also, concerning the mini-map, the transparency level seems poor to me. The leaves are blocking at least 50% of the mini-maps functionality. Perhaps players can adjust transparency? Just a thought.
they said you could track down injured enemies by using the fresh blood trails on the ground already....

but yeah, nothing new... looks like its from the same batch taken a couple weeks back thier just trying to spread them thin... And the blood looks horrible.

[Agge]

meh... Already seen this... or almoast the same at least. Still better then nothing.

[Afgar]

Best part is the blood on the grass. Screenshots really don't say much at this point anymore, especially if they keep taking them without any trace of the user interface, new models, etc.

[Crovax]

They should instead of having blood come out in lines have it come out in spurts, like the paint can in that artpad website, that and make it a little darker, though I bet if we saw a video of this we would be pissing ourselves over it since it would all just blend in.

[Shadow Walker2020]

I dont know what everyone is complaining about, these shots look great.

I like how they have the trees cast shadows. The blood splatter on the ground is a nice touch too.

I really hope they let players manually toggle their view mode, I would definetly go third person all the way, especially after seeing these screen shots. I could aim my spells and arrow shots in that view, no problem.

[Porthios]

The thing about blood is that I think it is actually moving, and not static like it is in nearly all games. So what we're actually looking at is very likely to be little streams of blood that is draining off of armor. Yeah, I know. It isn't the most realistic thing ever, but it's interesting.

[Unknewn]

THe shadows seem little bit weird... But hey who cares... it's all about PvPing :)

[Sarusan]

I dont know what everyone is complaining about, these shots look great.

I like how they have the trees cast shadows. The blood splatter on the ground is a nice touch too.

I really hope they let players manually toggle their view mode, I would definetly go third person all the way, especially after seeing these screen shots. I could aim my spells and arrow shots in that view, no problem.

About the blood on armors, shitty update, beta not comming and everything else you can and cant imagine.

[Slypieguy]

"...it seems on track to launch later this year."

Best part of that update IMO.

[Maglubiyet]

imo wake me up when a good update comes out

[Suitepee]

Wow,the blood in these screenshots is REALLY confusing me.
Such awesome scratches (especially head detail,awesome!) and blood marks,then suddenly there's the line-blood marks. This confuses me more than anything; if they had just line-based blood scratches/drops it'd be settled,but then I see before me decent looking blood.
But meh,it looks good. For blood. (I can rap!) :D

The armors like good,and I like the way the blood 'wraps' around the shape and texture of it. And the spikes on the armor.

In 4th screenshot; is that a wild jump swing I see? Impressive.

It'd have been nice to see a little video of this skirmish,especially with the whole 'blood' confusion I'm having.

Blood on the grass looks nice too.

Good update. :D

"...and has advanced it to the stage where it seems on track to launch later this year." If they are talking about the beta,then this is interesting speculation.

[Dozier]

eastern amurranyr, thats a mouthfull

[Sarmatian]

"...it seems on track to launch later this year."

Best part of that update IMO.

Unless you are playing beta, don't take ANYONE'S word on when beta will release anymore.

[Doffeh]

Sometimes the blood look a bit lame and, unlogical.
But at times quite fancy.
However, that last pic? First I had a rune flashback.
but he is actually holding his sword infront of him.. =(
To me the blood in the first screen, which is on the sheild just looks weird.
And in most screens, well, I think the devs need to emo them selves and study the color. Its a bit too pink. Though at times its good too.
screen 3, in his face, thats propper blood.. I don't think blood looks more pink on a shiny metal plate..

Also, Im getting the impression of it being fall. In teh agon world.
Will there be snow in df? =O

[Metal Wolf]

I love how bloody the combat looks to be.

[Chronos]

The blood needs to be darker I think. The color of the blood spraying into the air, that should be the color of the blood when it lands on armor and such. Or darker.

Otherwise, nice to have even more screens, even practically seen them already.

Btw, does this count as Tuesday's update? :)

[Rhynn]

Heh, good thing I planned on having red armor anyway. *whew*

[Strohwind]

Just me reacting to the hand sticking through the shield, or are my eyes decieving me?

[Draugh]

Blood needs to be darker, and respond more "liquid-like" to physical objects. Flat splashs and lines aren't realistic.

Anyone know whether these were low-res screens?

Edit: these* not there.

[Trazodone]

They should instead of having blood come out in lines have it come out in spurts, like the paint can in that artpad website, that and make it a little darker, though I bet if we saw a video of this we would be pissing ourselves over it since it would all just blend in.

there are vids with alittle combat in them, and the blood does spurt out. more like sprays. like porthios said, i dont think most of the blood in the shot is static. might even be from a lower end vid card

[Killuminati]

Lets see some ALFAR!!!

[Icix]

I really like what im seeing. The blood effects look realistic, except that its light pink, not blood red, and what from im seeing the animations look realistic and fairly lifelike. Bravo!

[FunWithDrugs]

Dig the blood on the grass. Agree that blood should be a darker shade.

Agree that a short video would be sweet.

Hopefully they give us something good after this screenshot mania.

[Figrix Voidstar]

Good to see some nice and bloody combat. I'm liking that axe in screen 4 too, more axes plx!

[Adapt]

blood on the grass :D

[JunWF]

I'm all for the completely unrealistic Quentin Tarrentino style blood. Buckets of it. Cutting of somebodies head and spraying his buddies with a 3 minute long geyser of flourescent blood gushing from his neck? Hell yes.

[Rhime]

Will all the armor be blue colored?

[Nalira]

the blood on the bald guy's head looks a lot better and a lot more realistic than the blood on the dragon armor in the fourth ss (the jumping dude)... the colour seems off, its not dark enough.

but the blood effect is better than no blood effect, thats for sure... considering there are no visible health bars to opposing threats.

[nazual]

yeah, a video of this particular encounter would be nice

I agree :)

[Exodeus]

bloody :D

[HoE-Drenath]

Just me reacting to the hand sticking through the shield, or are my eyes decieving me?
First thing I noticed was his gauntlet sticking through his shield. You're not imagining it.

[Irodim]

First thing I noticed was his gauntlet sticking through his shield. You're not imagining it.
It's not even in beta yet...

I don't think it is that big of a deal.

[Shadow Walker2020]

Will all the armor be blue colored?


Nah, thats probably the default color of the armor because its probably made with iron ingots or something. My best guess is if you craft it with different colored ingots you'll get different colored armor. Like if you colored it with rustal, youd get red dragon armor. Now that would look cool. :cool:

[The-Nit]

Havent we seen this fight a few times by now?

Whats with the red paint.. blood spatter?

[JimLad]

Seeeeeeen ittttt
The words 'stretched' and 'wafer thin' come to mind...

and the blood still needs fixing.
That zombie update actually looks pretty good right about now...

[Raekwon]

Blah,
Maybe it'll look smoother/better in motion. And when I say "it" I mean every sub par aspect in these and all previous screen shots from years past, from the trees to the blood to the sky.

*Goes back to waiting for a short video release i.e. an update that is worth a crap.*

[rekker]

Impressive screenshots... but didnt we see these a few weeks ago?

[Ceksu]

Blood looks like its waterpainted or something. Not cool.
And why isn't armor damaged if there's blood?

[Shamoke]

I think they were having a red marker fight.

[Salazar[SG]]

Yay! Four more old screenies from different angles! Yay!

[Villa]

VERY cool stuff =)
Umm... you clearly need more imagination if you think three generic screenies are 'VERY cool stuff'

Another waste of time piece of shit update again.

[pureshok]

Well its nice that we now have a idea of the mini map etc, but seriously if the game is soooooooo close to beta we can get better updates then this? Show us different races in armor, or just standing around, show us a dragon in game, or tease us with describtions of 4 basic skills but do something "new".

[Wisperer]

What happened to "No Minimap" ?

I think it was no radar. mini-map is needed to find your way around the lands.


Just me reacting to the hand sticking through the shield, or are my eyes decieving me?

Thats a hand all right. like the first picture with the shield in deep in the leg. To counter those errors thier gonna have to move the shields attachment points and resize them.


Will all the armor be blue colored?

No. Theres also the bleached browninsh colored armor...so far.


The armors all look simulair but isn't one plate, another partial plate with chain and the third a scale mail?

And on the blood on the armor and shield...is the blood comming from the guy wearing it or from the one that he is fighting?

[Elix]

Nice screenies. The blood looks interesting. :)

[Meatwhistle]

yeah, a video of this particular encounter would be nice

QFT I would love to see some more gameplay vids.

[Dronjak]

Nice

[Ultimo]

i like it, the more news the better, i may not be incredibly old to the forums, but even the beginning of '06 was dry compaired to the last few months since e3

[Delroy]

as you can see i dont post much so excuse me if im wrong on this.

1st i agree about the blood it looks great on the bald guys head but not very cool on the armour.

2nd im so bored of seeing the same armour for the 40000000000000th time

3rd it would be great to see a combat video. it doesnt have to be the most polished gameplay trailer ever just fraps it or sumthin. at least we would be able to see how the game is REALLY coming along. i understand that the dev team have taken on a massive task with darkfall and its obviously gonna take time but 6 years and were getting happy about 4 screenshots of the same thing we saw a few months ago. thats just not cricket =[

in regards to the screenies though i do remember a friend of mine telling me that all the screenshots were taken using a really low gfx setting so that we could see what the game would look like realistically on a normal pc not some

[EnolaGay]

I don

[Asmodeus]

[QUOTE=EnolaGay]Maybe in the next update they will do something really crazy like show us something we haven

[V1RUS]

Well, at least we get to see the mini-map :P

As for the blood, it looks great on the guys head, great on the grass, cool to see it on the weapons (considering it to be the enemy's blood and not his own), but the blood on the armor is just...well, pathetic. Even if it is moving, it should not look so flat and transparent. I mean it just looks like the color of the armor magically changed in a few specific spots to indicate the "blood".

[Darkmatter]

Alfar or Mirdains, siege weaponry, various videos, castle/city building, etc etc etc theres lots to show us - just mark it clearly "subject to change" and it'll be allright. Its mainly to give us an indication on how the current game is.

[Baldr]

Alright screenies. Same ol' same ol'.

[Elro]

I'd like to say I was really impressed by the screenshots... I'd "like" to say that. These were not up to the usual standards, plus it's difficult to show an action sequence in a series of stills.

[elric]

A video of combat would be worth a million screenshots.

[TheAntilionX]

Hell seems like they worked a little on the blood but stills looks crapy make it a little darker and no so square like and ad shadows effect on the blood


and please!! release something new and fresh alfar screenshots and more places like caves or volcanos and crap give us something we haven't seen please more towns more monsters

jezz

[Bensidhe]

I logged in to get a look at these shots and ummm...its nothing new. I know its nothing that hasn't been said before, but I agree with many here that we need to see some actual footage of gameplay.
Maybe games with Dark in their titles are doomed. Please do not tell me that Aventurine does not have the means to create gameplay movies. Its time to really step it up folks and blow us out of the water. After nearly 6 years In developement shit or get off the pot. I have some experience with the industry and know that its not hard to do, nor does it take as long as this.
Again, step up or step off. Show the new fans and the old timers what ya got or go home.

[Old-Root]

I like the shots a lot thanks!

[Leftxxfor deadx]

w00t

[Shadow Walker2020]

Everyone should be thankful that the devs are releasing screen shots of the game at all. For years, there were no updates or info or anything thing. It was dead silence from the devs. And now they are releasing screen shots to show players what they have accomplished so far and its not good enough. Everyone is whining and complaining. Yeah, they are showing the dragon armor again. Did anyone stop to consider that maybe the dragon armor and those shots of combat are the devs favorites and the ones they are particularly proud of?

[Sarmatian]

I don't think its not appreciating the screenshots as much as it is we don't like seeing the same ol screenshots every couple days. I mean who really cares what an elf city looks like when you don't even show us an elf?

I know I would prefer one good update (like the sensory one) once every 2-3 weeks as opposed to "new" screenshots acouple times every week.

[siegfried.it]

i think the screenshots totally suck
looks to me like there are no or to less character shadows
the characters look like they were shining and glowing
nearly everything looks overbright
and of course noone is bothered by it expect me

edit: oh btw the skin and the blood on the skin looks very good
but the blood on the armor looks like pink watercolor

[Yoshun]

I think someone was joking about being happy to see the mini-map, but I did enjoy that, hehe.

As for seeing the same old thing, all I can say is this. The devs want us to be active and give opinions about what we'd like to see in game. We can only do that if we see how things are. I know I would love to see a game play video, but if they don't think that's the right thing to do at the moment who am I to complain?

At the end this post comes up to this: liked seeing the mini-map. Liked the blood on the bald guy and the grass. Didn't like it on the armor but I think it's probably because it's a screenshot instead of a video and as they told us the engine used to make these are lower than what we'll get in the release of the game.

I wait hopeful until next week. Maybe we get something to talk about this time around.

[Ankh]

I know I would love to see a game play video, but if they don't think that's the right thing to do at the moment who am I to complain?

You are the end-user of this game (which you'll be paying a load of cash for) and as such, it is not only your right, but also your duty to complain.

[Suitepee]

You are the end-user of this game (which you'll be paying a load of cash for) and as such, it is not only your right, but also your duty to complain.

Secretly,the complainers are glad they have SOMETHING to complain about. :D

[Leftxxfor deadx]

Secretly,the complainers are glad they have SOMETHING to complain about. :D

true that ^_^

even though im not a complainer

i just care for gameplay =p

[mrLeet]

omg the sky is blue!

[Strohwind]

Thats a hand all right. like the first picture with the shield in deep in the leg. To counter those errors thier gonna have to move the shields attachment points and resize them.


Yeah, I've had my fair share of clipping issues as well, it's just a matter of hiding them as much as you possibly can.

Trouble starts when you've gotta re-export some (arbitrary) 300 animation cycles built on the one with clipping *horror*

[Slag]

I totally agree. How about it dev's. Think you could be kind enough to post a small combat clip to appease the masses? :bang:

[rilleh]

makes me wanna play even more and I agree with the others .. i'd love a video of it.

[Wisperer]

Yeah, I've had my fair share of clipping issues as well, it's just a matter of hiding them as much as you possibly can.

Trouble starts when you've gotta re-export some (arbitrary) 300 animation cycles built on the one with clipping *horror*

Ta tell ya the truth, i don't mind certain clipping issues like the shield diameter thats in the leg a little to much. But the hand through the shield, and when in first person view when my "eyes" are blocked by armor (chest and shoulder) because they clip into the face area, those i cannot stand.

I don't care if leaves on a tree are flat its when the tree its self is like EQ1, When something is suposed to be curves or round then make it so.

The grass looks like colored prairie grass in all the screen shots but at least its not flat sheets.

The sky color does not matter to me that much (blue, violet, or combination of them is fine with me) its the clouds and weather effects that i am interested in. A painted sky like in DDO sucks!

Items on a table should be 3D not 1D (i hate 2D stuff that i regulate it down one D :p )

Texture skins on a building that missmatch and look 2D are also out. Yes i seen that in the screenshots also. Well i see in some games where it works like some steps in the NE area of Jangan, Silk Road. Theres no lag there for me btw and the servers are almost always full.

And of course the biggie for me here is the coloration/brightness of most of the armor screenshots. How they look bleached out.


Thats all my visual complaints in a nutshell. They fix those and put in some great combat finishing moves, like in JK2 where i can make the saber do a leg sweep and in a spin finish the move with the saber stabbing down into the chest of the fallen guy...killing him, I'll be one verry happy player.


Thinking about the shield and hand thing...are they attaching the shield to the hand with out gauntlets so when they have the gauntlets on it pushes though the shield?

[Leftxxfor deadx]

yeah
i can see what you guys are saying with clipping, etc. the brightness on the armor does need to be toned down, and the 2d stuff is kinda lame =p

but, all in all, it is pre-beta still, and i'm sure it will be fixed in time.

as far as im concerned, as long as the character textures look good enough(which they do, for me), and there's not too much crappy 2d stuff, then i'll be fine with the game.

i just am sick of the whole "cartoon-like" feel that WoW's graphics give off. Very bothersome to me, makes me feel like im playing a children's game.

But yeah, just give me a good twitch-combat system, full loot, and balanced PK'ing(i.e. not ganking n00bs too hard.), with item crafting, and some good quests, and im good to go!!

=]

[LanMandragon]

I like the screenies, but yeah its been done before.

At this point I would volunteer to make the damn video for them. I have all the neccessary equipment and editing tools.

[mantoe]

har har! that looks like some exciting combat!! the blood running down the armor and covering the nearby flora is excellent. makes it look real epic, like heros clashing, all covered in thick red croovy. :bang: rarrr!!

[KuldrasBlueDrif]

Bloody grass, i like it

[Finrod]

I don't know what everyone is complaining about to me these screenies look great, and there is probably another side of the story concerning the blood on the armour..imo Nice Screenies !! :D

[Matriel]

yeah, a video of this particular encounter would be nice

Yeah pretty much, like to see if it looks fluid or plays fluid. Or anything concrete in any way, shape, or form.

[Xinnro]

The blood looks like it was done in MS paint...

Besides that... it's pretty much the same thing we've been seeing past 20 Screenshots updates..


That being said...

The Map and Coordinates does make me happy to see..

overall not entirley impressed with these screenshots..but better than nothing i suppose.

[stalwart]

my karma ran over your dogma


that's from "Sneaky Pete"

his real name is Peter Rizzo, and he's a biology professer here at A&M. crazy dude... in his late 60s, i think, and does concerts at hastings.

[Osirus]

that's from "Sneaky Pete"

his real name is Peter Rizzo, and he's a biology professer here at A&M. crazy dude... in his late 60s, i think, and does concerts at hastings.

right on, thanks.

[Unknewn]

I don't know what everyone is complaining about to me these screenies look great, and there is probably another side of the story concerning the blood on the armour..imo Nice Screenies !! :D

Agreed, well just have to see how it is in game/screen moving then just a SS. You can almost never judge a games graphics by SS when the game hasnt even reached Beta stage.

[Nasty]

^ agree

game looks awesome, those who complain can go craimore and go fuck themselves imo

love the minimap/coords