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Laenih
05-12-2010, 10:18
Hi everyone,

We know that many of you have been eagerly waiting to see the updated Alfar model (http://www.darkfallonline.com/images/alfar_male.jpg) and today we deliver!

It certainly belongs to the models that received a wider range of changes while still being true to the background and lore of the race.

The art team also wanted us to mention that the models are work in progress and might still be subject to changes and tweaks.

We hope you enjoy!

xerian
05-12-2010, 10:19
nice

gorgor
05-12-2010, 10:21
yeah!

Wyverex
05-12-2010, 10:21
Not yet 100% that I like the new design, but it does have a certain evil look I approve of :)

Makgyver
05-12-2010, 10:22
lol

Jedicake
05-12-2010, 10:22
I like it

bobii
05-12-2010, 10:24
yay zombies

The Dragonbane
05-12-2010, 10:27
I'm going to shit my pants when those guys stare at me.

muddymess
05-12-2010, 10:28
Good lord it looks like a goblin pumped on steroids while maintaining a crack addiction.

incognit0
05-12-2010, 10:28
don't know if like...

Stormtrooper
05-12-2010, 10:29
Thanks for the update :rolleyes: !

adre84
05-12-2010, 10:42
cool!

squrrilslayer
05-12-2010, 10:45
oh wow! thats the stuff nightmares are made of!

freakd
05-12-2010, 10:46
ferengies! lol nice!

Prometheus
05-12-2010, 10:47
Aliens inDaHouZe evil look.. good

Leg enD
05-12-2010, 10:53
99% sure im stayng alfar now ;)

ty

Arkh
05-12-2010, 10:57
Not emo enough. I'll miss my emo-looking cave alien.

DALYDHXRAWR
05-12-2010, 10:57
dont make the female alfar look too evil/ugly

0wNag3
05-12-2010, 10:59
Hey nice model! Although I am Orc myself it will definitely be fun to fight this ugly (even more ugly now) little creatures :) Bwahhahahahaha.

Jensken
05-12-2010, 11:04
now finish it below the belt aswell :D
looks nice

Machinistlol
05-12-2010, 11:07
looks evil im happy if it doesnt have a mohawk and extremely cool facepaint ill be pissed off AV!!!!!

SnoBBin
05-12-2010, 11:09
nice tuch

Temko Firewing
05-12-2010, 11:09
Good lord it looks like a goblin pumped on steroids while maintaining a crack addiction.

ha! i did always say they were overgrown goblins.

Shioni
05-12-2010, 11:14
I bet they are still playing with the breast size on the female alfar, and elf for that matter

thecool444
05-12-2010, 11:20
Good work!

Ayn Sheron
05-12-2010, 11:25
boorn from a vampir male and gobelin female

Zushakon
05-12-2010, 11:32
Feels like something is off about the chest.. and the face looks rather horrid. But other than that, nice!

malebogia
05-12-2010, 11:32
I like it too...look more badass...

dracoz
05-12-2010, 11:33
love the face! very good... while on orks face is fail on alfars new models is win!

Machinistlol
05-12-2010, 11:35
id like it to be thinner though in body weight and have more of a angry face.

smackyou
05-12-2010, 11:35
nice :D

Ezar
05-12-2010, 11:39
Very nice,

Just waiting for human male now.. :)

manu80
05-12-2010, 11:41
vampire?
suck my blood, blue one

Dirkdiggler
05-12-2010, 11:41
Quark?

Bainwalker
05-12-2010, 11:42
They look better, but I think they could have been made to look a tad more evil.... the face just isn't twisted enough. Needs a sinister twist, I'm curious as to how their armour will look now.

Still, come race re-roll I'm strongly thinking about going Alfar.

Thry
05-12-2010, 11:47
My favorite of the new models probably because its such a huge improvement.

Good work.

IcyFlame
05-12-2010, 11:53
thats some sick looking new char.

kinda looks like someone took some membrane and moulded it into... well.... that.

chokke
05-12-2010, 11:53
How come the mahirim, ork and alfar have the same eyebrow-thingy?
I mean, it's ok that they should look fierce and fearless, but god, learn a new way to approach it. Or heck, I'd like to see some differences when it comes to expressions.


I mean: AV LOOOL I LOVE U U R TEH BEST!

Knievel
05-12-2010, 11:54
Nice it looks god damn evil :D

Mortimer
05-12-2010, 11:56
looks kinda funny for me :rolleyes:

Darkfiend#billy
05-12-2010, 12:03
Reminds me of Dunmer from Morrowind.

Nice.


BUCKETS.
+1

starmanofvenus
05-12-2010, 12:04
stick some pins in his head and he will the hellraizor :)

Virindii
05-12-2010, 12:04
evil Alfar thx AV! i like it :D

starmanofvenus
05-12-2010, 12:04
Stick some pins in his head and he will look like the hellraizor :)

rbeck
05-12-2010, 12:05
Will take some adjustment, but very nice :)

w0rm
05-12-2010, 12:16
Not bad, now hopefully mirdains are next.

smoke2000
05-12-2010, 12:20
kinda looks a bit like a character out of a star trek movie.

raapnaap
05-12-2010, 12:21
Looks very different from now but it's nice.

To people commenting about the face; keep in mind you get to select between several face textures in character creation.

But, question: Judging from the model scale, will it alter the current hitbox of the Alfar? Will it be more in line with the other races? Currently the Alfar hitbox size is their main advantage (they got a useless acid-resist racial skill to 'compensate' for this though), so knowing about such change in advance would be good.

Zushakon
05-12-2010, 12:25
Looks very different from now but it's nice.

To people commenting about the face; keep in mind you get to select between several face textures in character creation.

But, question: Judging from the model scale, will it alter the current hitbox of the Alfar? Will it be more in line with the other races? Currently the Alfar hitbox size is their main advantage (they got a useless acid-resist racial skill to 'compensate' for this though), so knowing about such change in advance would be good.

Well on the other hand their shorter melee range is really crippling. But melee is pretty much useless anyway so meh..

/sad

Veeshan_
05-12-2010, 12:26
to musscly in my option.

Mossarrow
05-12-2010, 12:29
respect art team! Looks cool! (for sure its male? :sly: -fix it)

The old Alfar faces looked gay like hell.... now its much better!

Who afraid of the face, I'm sure not all new Alfar faces will look like http://www.google.hu/imgres?imgurl=http://blog.blogosfere.it/blogs/racing/images/lauda76.jpg&imgrefurl=http://connect.in.com/niki-lauda/photos-1276-4430333.html&usg=__V4q2Zrpincy5-aTasMkB_-ABYiY=&h=411&w=700&sz=79&hl=hu&start=18&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=fAMB8ZZWXJS2MM:&tbnh=82&tbnw=140&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dniky%2Blauda%26um%3D1%26hl% 3Dhu%26client%3Dopera%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dh u%26ndsp%3D21%26tbs%3Disch:1

abrigaito
05-12-2010, 12:29
that looks like a cheap copy of the monster from the movie The Descent

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/5791/thedescentgalscary.jpg (http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/5791/thedescentgalscary.jpg)

RealFroZeN
05-12-2010, 12:30
Upg the elf ffs plz :P?

Machinistlol
05-12-2010, 12:31
Well on the other hand their shorter melee range is really crippling. But melee is pretty much useless anyway so meh..

/sad

melee isnt useless, its retarded if you try to do it in every single situation and do nothing else but melee.

sharpkris
05-12-2010, 12:32
Good lord it looks like a goblin pumped on steroids while maintaining a crack addiction.

i think it looks like santa little helpers :lmao:

sharpkris
05-12-2010, 12:34
great job design team!
the design workers are the only admins who do their job correctly :ninja:

DALYDHXRAWR
05-12-2010, 12:37
i just noticed the eyes...

please give them the old alfar eyes back. The eyes we have now are win and they stand out

Dakyn
05-12-2010, 12:39
Looks nice.

But i guess as a species, Alfar males don't have nipples. Maybe AV will add those to thier armour, kinda like in that Batman movie.

:lmao::lmao:

Zushakon
05-12-2010, 12:40
melee isnt useless, its retarded if you try to do it in every single situation and do nothing else but melee.

Well of course, just saying the use of melee is very limited most of the time.

Virindii
05-12-2010, 12:42
Looks nice.

But i guess as a species, Alfar males don't have nipples. Maybe AV will add those to thier armour, kinda like in that Batman movie.

:lmao::lmao:

we dont need nippels just a big dick :D

AmonDominus
05-12-2010, 12:47
we dont need nippels just a big dick :D
You sure about that? Those shorts are awfully tight.

Daggermaniac
05-12-2010, 12:48
Looks very different from now but it's nice.

To people commenting about the face; keep in mind you get to select between several face textures in character creation.

But, question: Judging from the model scale, will it alter the current hitbox of the Alfar? Will it be more in line with the other races? Currently the Alfar hitbox size is their main advantage (they got a useless acid-resist racial skill to 'compensate' for this though), so knowing about such change in advance would be good.
Alfar, Mahirim, and Dwarf have the same hit box in terms of WIDTH. Put 2 mounts next to eachother, and make them as tight as you can, making sort of a T with a friend of yours. Just stand next to one mount that faces forward, and have a friend run a mount into your side until its tight as can be, but not too far on one side. Then, run yourself (alfar) between the mounts, a dwarf between the mounts, and a mahirim. They all fit. Same hitbox. Get over it. The ONLY reason Alfar look smaller is cause they ARE smaller, not their hitbox. Also we LOOK like we move very fast, however it is true we do run faster than mahirim, but that is because our legs are shorter so we move them faster so our bodies move very fast in relation to our size.

chokke
05-12-2010, 12:50
You sure about that? Those shorts are awfully tight.

The best thing about alfars, the entire body becomes erect.
Either that, or someone in art department screwed up about male/female.

bmfof
05-12-2010, 12:58
Well, they do look a bit less emo.

peertje
05-12-2010, 13:03
OK. I'm rerolling.

Battle Smurf
05-12-2010, 13:08
This is my least favorite looking model of all the ones posted so far. All the others were great, but meh I might race change to maharim.

Arquiteto
05-12-2010, 13:21
It looks like the Infected people from I AM LEGEND.

Well done.

empa
05-12-2010, 13:28
dont like it at all

Kogiot
05-12-2010, 13:32
They look like aliens

Kelroth
05-12-2010, 13:52
Stick some pins in his head and he will look like the Hellraiser :)

I was thinking the same thing.

Paragus
05-12-2010, 13:57
Give the art department a raise ;)

Hekkr
05-12-2010, 14:06
Disgusting, thank god im racechanging when that feature comes.

Agris
05-12-2010, 14:12
i like it, will be nice to slaughter them :ninja:

Keno
05-12-2010, 14:19
Hi everyone,

We know that many of you have been eagerly waiting to see the updated Alfar model (http://www.darkfallonline.com/images/alfar_male.jpg) and today we deliver!

It certainly belongs to the models that received a wider range of changes while still being true to the background and lore of the race.

The art team also wanted us to mention that the models are work in progress and might still be subject to changes and tweaks.

We hope you enjoy!

Good work by the art team as usual.

Thulliel
05-12-2010, 14:24
Amazing! now i'm gonna look like a Vampire, finally.:D

nohuko
05-12-2010, 14:25
Amazing! now i'm gonna look like a Vampire, finally.:D

Actually they look a little more simian. Well, someone did refer to Alfar as being the "cave monkeys" of Darkfall once, now it fits.

Sinfall
05-12-2010, 14:27
i guess im the only person that thinks it looks like shit? Oh well, Another mahirim or human inc

Trammie
05-12-2010, 14:34
why did av make alfars look like fish people? give alfars underwater breathing if we gotta look this stupid

Torc
05-12-2010, 14:35
I'm not sure I like it, but it might grow on me.

World Dominator
05-12-2010, 14:41
My first impression was hmmm and after that I was like ya this actually looks pretty fucking badass. I just need my own hair / face to see how it really looks though. But they seriously look like crazy serial killers now, that's for sure.

psychosiszz
05-12-2010, 14:41
Hmm not a fan tbh, If they make the Alfar armour look better I will be happy. Sucks that only full-plate is the best looking armour for ze Alfar.

Dread Rising
05-12-2010, 14:47
we dont need nippels just a big dick :D

Trying to compensate for RL problems? Thought So..
Anyway Good Job AV :)

Prometheus
05-12-2010, 14:47
underworld 4tw

http://www.gutefrage.net/media/fragen/bilder/underworld-evolution-vampirart/1_big.jpg

Weithor
05-12-2010, 14:48
a mage race, have a muscular corpse? ...tbh i dont like it, but good try

Dr.Ogen
05-12-2010, 14:50
ferengies! Lol nice!

lulz

World Dominator
05-12-2010, 14:51
Hmm not a fan tbh, If they make the Alfar armour look better I will be happy. Sucks that only full-plate is the best looking armour for ze Alfar.

Ya it's taste n shit, a never-ending discussion :p
Some people like it some people don't like it.
I just want to see how it looks with my long hair and corpsepaint on it :D

And yes I really hope they change Alfar Armor. I really feel intimidated by gear from other races sometimes. But I personally dislike a lot of Alfar gear.

d20
05-12-2010, 14:51
Get rid of the ab-blasted six-pack...it doesn't suit the character.

They should be skinny and weak, like you'd expect a crack addicted magic elf to be.

World Dominator
05-12-2010, 14:52
a mage race, have a muscular corpse? ...tbh i dont like it, but good try

They have a polerarm as superiour racial weapon as well so ya, mage bonusses and melee racial weapon was a weird combo anyway :p

Skinstripper
05-12-2010, 15:00
It needs more personality! I like the vampiric nature, as they need that, and you kept the weird bat ears, but for god's sake, give the face more personality, and give it some structure.

That's the problem with all the designs so far, the faces don't have any structure, they kind've melt together.

Give it some structure and personality. Not make it look like the following images, but they have personality:

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/9783/photorz.jpg
or
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/5913/photoze.jpg

Banka plixz
05-12-2010, 15:07
rename alfar to alien :lmao:

topets123
05-12-2010, 15:11
Good work

electrofux
05-12-2010, 15:17
Gollum. Liked the old style moar. but its ok.

Punish
05-12-2010, 15:19
The alfar model was the one good character model you had.

Now it looks like shit.

:(

ArmyOkie
05-12-2010, 15:20
The alfar model was the one good character model you had.

Now it looks like shit.

:(

This

psychosiszz
05-12-2010, 15:20
Reminds me of a micheal jackson look-alike
http://www.michaeljacksonfan.com/TheRealDaveDave.jpg

Suncross
05-12-2010, 15:21
While I think it's cool that the races are getting new models, I have to say that this is the only one that I absolutely hate.

They have a 6 pack with a bottom rack and filled out breasts, but you can still see their ribcage like they are anorexic? I can't really follow. The alfar are a pirate like race that go around killing things, not a pumped up grey olsen twin.

Also, one of the main things that made the alfar signature was there eyes. My god did their eyes look cool. That is one of the main features you recognize alfar with is their eyes. Now they have eyes just like all the others.

I realize that they are looking for a color and build scheme, but man they need to rework the eyes on this.

Machinistlol
05-12-2010, 15:27
They look like aliens

and alfars dont look like aliens atm... right...

http://www.gutefrage.net/media/fragen/bilder/underworld-evolution-vampirart/1_big.jpg

copyers ;D

make them more thin and evil in ze face. ty.

Zaffax
05-12-2010, 15:33
Something seems...off.

schlock
05-12-2010, 15:34
"No trace of kindness exists in the world of the alfar, a race whose minds were shattered and then erratically rebuilt by a cruel and insane deity."

Melek would not be pleased. They look relaxed, no tinge of tortured evil in their eyes. Give them an evil expression, and it would be great. I'm glad you mentioned that they are a work in progress.

Currently you look at them in-game and they look like mischievous little jerks. Please try to keep that spirit.

They are awfully muscular for a race that primarily based on magic. But that's no matter as it will be mostly covered by armor.

Keep it up art team! The work is appreciated.

Flux Kimone
05-12-2010, 15:37
hands down, best improvement yet.

Bobtin
05-12-2010, 15:39
Wow and I was going to switch races, I have to say all the new character models look great.

Elriond
05-12-2010, 15:45
Wow..nice. Now alfars actually look badass. Keep up the good work!

Kedar
05-12-2010, 15:46
nice

Holy Cheater
05-12-2010, 15:47
Looks like an orc

Punish
05-12-2010, 15:47
Something seems...off.

it's because alfars are supposed to be devious little guys. They shouldn't look like a midget on roids. The muscles need to go, the eyes need to be evil. They should look like douchebags, not roid ragers.

Ragnarok Delrhe
05-12-2010, 15:48
id like it to be thinner though in body weight and have more of a angry face.

bigger hitboxes? hihihi

Darkfiend#billy
05-12-2010, 15:52
The muscles really aren't that big guys, its more of the fact that they are depicted as having 0% body fat and that their skin sticks to their bones.

I like it.
However, I must say that the facial expression is a little bland and that the glowing eyes are a must!

Ragnarok Delrhe
05-12-2010, 15:56
They look like aliens
they look way more human to you right now?

Wufiavelli
05-12-2010, 16:09
I like the face. Ears are interesting. I do not like the 6 pack though. I kind of like the current alfar with ribs showing. Gives it a nice Nosferatu vibe.

Amishh
05-12-2010, 16:14
first male model that might have a small penis inside those pants.


Face is kinda... hmhh new. it could be much cooler but atleast they look alien elderlys

TainteDBlooD
05-12-2010, 16:18
I like all the others except this. And i rerolled to this race.

Damnit.

MillionAlts
05-12-2010, 16:20
It's way better than generic "dark elf", which i just a regular elf model tinted grey.

+1 for this model.

TainteDBlooD
05-12-2010, 16:20
Cant edit my post for some reason.

Give race change please, want to reroll as mirdain slut

OGuz
05-12-2010, 16:24
next week mirdain presenting
what about implementing?

Liquid20
05-12-2010, 16:27
I'm alfar. I love every new model the art team has made, except this one. Imo the eyes need to be like they are now in-game, ears need to be a bit smaller and the model less muscular. Also, the face doesn't look evil enough. Maybe that can be customized in character creation though.

I hope you listen to feedback as i love being alfar right now and i don't want to be forced into a race change i wouldn't even have considered if the models had stayed the same. Gief back thin, sinister alfar.

Kimoshu
05-12-2010, 16:30
Amazing! now i'm gonna look like a Vampire, finally.:D

Yeah that was my thought to. :D

I love the face on the new alfar; It seems so devoid of emotion, the eyes have no pupils and there's no feeling at all in them. In the other models for Ork/Mahirim there was a bit of "rage" in their eyes, in the human and dwarves they looked much more friendly.

I like the new model, much better than the cartoony Alfar we are now. Also guys don't forget that we're not ALL going to look exactly like the models they are showing us, there will be many different looks to choose from. Don't write off your race or the race you want to change to till you've seen the different customizations, you may end up liking ones that you currently detest.

-Andrew

ninogan
05-12-2010, 16:33
I don't like it at all :l

They look completely different now and weird. Just my opinion. Please don't mess up mirdains :(

Hekkr
05-12-2010, 16:46
Kinda funny that they made every single model better but they fucked up at the alfars. They shouldn't look like a fuckin vampire. They should be devious like someone else already said.

Captain Kirk
05-12-2010, 17:01
Hehe, looks retarded but still better then the old one :D

Umberto
05-12-2010, 17:03
where's the mirdain screenshots!

GRCPan
05-12-2010, 17:04
The body is nice. The face though look really bad (it looks like a goblin). Hopefully though there will be enough face options to please everyone.

Viare
05-12-2010, 17:11
thas pretty sick looking

Mapi
05-12-2010, 17:23
Bring the facial features closer to the look of the original alfar, and the torso is out of proportion (too small) compared to the rest of the body.

Nalle
05-12-2010, 17:25
lol still blue and i hope my eyes still will have that evil glow...

Kelsen
05-12-2010, 17:25
Awesome, it only needs bigger eyes.

Sinny
05-12-2010, 17:27
I really really like the look of the new alfars, they don't look like cartoons anymore, I always picked the most evil looking race in any MMO I play so definitely switching when they release a race change, stupid human! (that is unless humans look badass).

Holio
05-12-2010, 17:34
I would not want to pass one of those on the streets! someone call for batman!

SEOINAGE
05-12-2010, 17:41
much better than the current alfar! I do think the hips and legs need some slight trimming and more definition, but only slightly, not a lot or it would be too muc, but just barely noticeable change, and put some proper lines on their legs on the front side including the shin, also the calves from left to right are way way off proportion of each other, its normal to be different form left to right, but i think it is a little extreme difference, that doesn't bother me as much as the others. But overall a good looking model, and a great improvement. I don't like the shoulder leather as a sidenote.

kdchan
05-12-2010, 17:44
Seems an alien/zombie. :eek:
Don't like, prefer the old one, but is me. :sly:

Zerbz
05-12-2010, 17:52
So what's the difference with alfars? The other models are "updated" this is "upgraded" so what's the difference? Reach extension?

Signus
05-12-2010, 17:57
Looks like it just crawled out from a cave, perfect!

Balsm
05-12-2010, 18:02
Looks nice! The uglier the evil toons look the better I say, makes hunting and killing them that much more fun.

nagi1
05-12-2010, 18:09
bah...dont like it.

the first new model what isnt good!

Amos
05-12-2010, 18:11
Anyone else feel like the Human Female model is being under developed. Looking at the Ork, Mahimir, Alfar models...the human one looks really really poorly put together

Ezar
05-12-2010, 18:13
Anyone else feel like the Human Female model is being under developed. Looking at the Ork, Mahimir, Alfar models...the human one looks really really poorly put together

Yep,

I want stronger, gladiator like humans. They're not priests.

TainteDBlooD
05-12-2010, 18:22
straight out of the sea on some alien planet lightyears away

Stormtrooper
05-12-2010, 18:31
Bring the facial features closer to the look of the original alfar, and the torso is out of proportion (too small) compared to the rest of the body.

Agreed.

And I hope the Skullface paint will be available as well, and I would be one happy follower of Melek.

Lord Jenicus
05-12-2010, 18:35
anyone else notice their calf muscles look really weird? like it's pointy or something?

Sinny
05-12-2010, 18:44
Bring the facial features closer to the look of the original alfar, and the torso is out of proportion (too small) compared to the rest of the body.

I think the new models look alot better with their beady eye's, but they are going to have eye colour's as well hopefully, but the new models look 10x better!

World Dominator
05-12-2010, 18:46
The alfar's that use melee / archery want to have musculair characters.
The alfar's that use magic want to have skinny / normal characters.

Pretty obvious.

Robin392
05-12-2010, 18:57
Nice, they look like the monsters from The Descent.

Oh, and more package, please.

w0rm
05-12-2010, 18:59
The alfar's that use melee / archery want to have musculair characters.
The alfar's that use magic want to have skinny / normal characters.

Pretty obvious.

nowai

Virindii
05-12-2010, 19:32
i have 110 str my char have to look so

Vogular
05-12-2010, 19:37
Share that str. with me

Darkfiend#billy
05-12-2010, 19:50
anyone else notice their calf muscles look really weird? like it's pointy or something?

Most likely because of an attempt to minimize the geometry and number of polygons. The new models want to look nice, but in order for Darkfall to run efficiently the models still have to be easy to render.

Abaratican
05-12-2010, 19:54
Looks great IMO. Anything's better than the effeminate child-like look of current alfar.

Valroth
05-12-2010, 21:52
a mage race, have a muscular corpse? ...tbh i dont like it, but good try

Agon ain't no place for pansy boys.

Love the new Alfar look. So much detail, its brilliant.

Carpe
05-12-2010, 23:18
looks like something out of star trek or some shit

Chris Windblade
05-12-2010, 23:40
I like it and i hate it at the same time the model is briliant for sure but, it has lost its special look to me. no more dark elves,they look more human with the smaller eyes no more bright orange peeking at you in the mid of night.

I like them do to the detail and textures and that the head is a well done but now they don't look goblinish/elvish. sleek pointing protruding noses lots of white hair remember dark elves in most history are normally cave dwellers so they are small or hunched over to do small caves.they have strong sense of site in dark not so much in lite i know this is all just fluff but i am just giving my points of view/inspiration. there eyes in my opoinion should be like a wince in the day form the lite and wide open in the night.

any ways looks good hopeing for tweaks/ please loose the simi zombie look they have atm

Chris Windblade
05-12-2010, 23:44
there is no edit so ill repost... also after staring at the picts a bit longer whats up with the ears. they look like rats ears ? oh i hope they can be resized and shapened with the new model :/

bladerunner1
05-12-2010, 23:56
Much better.

Spade Spirit
05-13-2010, 01:13
so now alfars are going to be ugly mutants? the rest of the races I aproved of though :(

velt
05-13-2010, 01:26
you guys better not screw up my sexy female alfar ness

the Excuseme
05-13-2010, 02:07
Nosferatu anyone?
http://nighthawknews.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/nosferatu.jpg

http://www.nosferatuscoffin.com/portal/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/nosferatularge.jpg

http://media.photobucket.com/image/nosferatu/cafehey/Nosferatu2.jpg

Hehe looks good.

Liquid20
05-13-2010, 02:13
The alfar's that use melee / archery want to have musculair characters.
The alfar's that use magic want to have skinny / normal characters.

Pretty obvious.

No? I only use melee/archery and i like the old model better.

Valaska
05-13-2010, 02:26
Damn they don't look like such pansy bitch's anymore.

Flux Kimone
05-13-2010, 04:16
is it me, or do the newest upgraded character models look even more detailed than the initial female model did?

KoKane
05-13-2010, 04:30
a mage race, have a muscular corpse? ...tbh i dont like it, but good try

Thats the first thing that jumped out at me. I noticed it looked a little buff for a magic focused race.. We will have to see it beside other models though for a real judgement

karlek
05-13-2010, 06:11
Thats the first thing that jumped out at me. I noticed it looked a little buff for a magic focused race.. We will have to see it beside other models though for a real judgement

They are smaller therefore where they lack in vit/str they make up in int. But they are not mage-only characters so there is no reason to look all whimpy.

Ginger Magician
05-13-2010, 06:32
A slimmer version of Neelix.

Nice.

Valaska
05-13-2010, 07:26
Thats the first thing that jumped out at me. I noticed it looked a little buff for a magic focused race.. We will have to see it beside other models though for a real judgement

You don't survive Agon without having a few dozen pounds of muscle =P

Shino-PIC
05-13-2010, 11:20
Wonder if devs really think that all this nice and useless shit is the most important thing for 'better DFO'?
Forum is full of screams about servers awful performance and suggestions about siege and pvp problems/ways of improvement. But they still feed us with this fucking awesome fashion brand new stupid useless models?
What is next? New cute and charming forms of wildlife?
This is fucking pvp game, who cares about nice-looking pixels?

Ohh wait, i'm wrong and really feel sorry. We have so few players in DF because those who quited didnt like their race modes.

FUCK THIS.

And yeah, delete this message so nooe can disturb dev's brilliant approach to what is importand and what is not.

Bans_
05-13-2010, 11:21
O noes! My crazy eye's!

World Dominator
05-13-2010, 11:36
Wonder if devs really think that all this nice and useless shit is the most important thing for 'better DFO'?
Forum is full of screams about servers awful performance and suggestions about siege and pvp problems/ways of improvement. But they still feed us with this fucking awesome fashion brand new stupid useless models?
What is next? New cute and charming forms of wildlife?
This is fucking pvp game, who cares about nice-looking pixels?

Ohh wait, i'm wrong and really feel sorry. We have so few players in DF because those who quited didnt like their race modes.

FUCK THIS.

And yeah, delete this message so nooe can disturb dev's brilliant approach to what is importand and what is not.

Hiya,

I know what you mean yes. This is by far one of the least priority's in Darkfall. However you must understand that designers can't work on siege/pvp fixes like programmers. And you can't just let them do nothing if you pay for them lmao.

chokke
05-13-2010, 11:50
Hiya,

I know what you mean yes. This is by far one of the least priority's in Darkfall. However you must understand that designers can't work on siege/pvp fixes like programmers. And you can't just let them do nothing if you pay for them lmao.

Quite funny that they are unable to do anything more then 'adress some issues' about the current client. That is since the last expansion was released, which is like 6 months from now (3rd of December?).
If they are to impress the player, they better bring something other then tomato soup to the table.

peertje
05-13-2010, 11:50
Wonder if devs really think that all this nice and useless shit is the most important thing for 'better DFO'?
Forum is full of screams about servers awful performance and suggestions about siege and pvp problems/ways of improvement. But they still feed us with this fucking awesome fashion brand new stupid useless models?
What is next? New cute and charming forms of wildlife?
This is fucking pvp game, who cares about nice-looking pixels?

Ohh wait, i'm wrong and really feel sorry. We have so few players in DF because those who quited didnt like their race modes.

FUCK THIS.

And yeah, delete this message so nooe can disturb dev's brilliant approach to what is importand and what is not.

good thing not everyone is like you. there are a lot of people who care for pretty models and artwork and gfx in a game and its not like all the developers are working on this; its a SEPERATE art team. if you dont care at all and just want gameplay, go play a fucking browser game and rage on their forums.

Cpt Obvious
05-13-2010, 11:54
great work! moving away from the cartoonish graphics FTW!

Cpt Obvious
05-13-2010, 11:58
Ohh wait, i'm wrong and really feel sorry. We have so few players in DF because those who quited didnt like their race modes.

those who quit arent here for the genre. there is no ffa pvp, fps, mmo that even gets CLOSE to darkfall. their devs are doing an AWESOME job.

performance i have 30 ping consistant and 200 fps with a shitty computer. sieges i go to 50 fps which is still playable. maybe you need to upgrade your 10 year old PC?

also if you read the spotlight posts (not just look at the pictures) you'll find information about what they are working on.

DAA KAPUTTMACHA
05-13-2010, 12:02
Wonder if devs really think that all this nice and useless shit is the most important thing for 'better DFO'?
Forum is full of screams about servers awful performance and suggestions about siege and pvp problems/ways of improvement. But they still feed us with this fucking awesome fashion brand new stupid useless models?
What is next? New cute and charming forms of wildlife?
This is fucking pvp game, who cares about nice-looking pixels?

Ohh wait, i'm wrong and really feel sorry. We have so few players in DF because those who quited didnt like their race modes.

FUCK THIS.

And yeah, delete this message so nooe can disturb dev's brilliant approach to what is importand and what is not.

No, your msg wont get deleted, so everyone can see what a moron you are.

Dr Fuenke
05-13-2010, 14:36
It looks shit IMO, looks old and fat. Will roll elf as soon as I can.

Arkh
05-13-2010, 14:50
Wonder if devs really think that all this nice and useless shit is the most important thing for 'better DFO'?
Forum is full of screams about servers awful performance and suggestions about siege and pvp problems/ways of improvement. But they still feed us with this fucking awesome fashion brand new stupid useless models?
What is next? New cute and charming forms of wildlife?
This is fucking pvp game, who cares about nice-looking pixels?

Ohh wait, i'm wrong and really feel sorry. We have so few players in DF because those who quited didnt like their race modes.

FUCK THIS.

And yeah, delete this message so nooe can disturb dev's brilliant approach to what is importand and what is not.
You don't want 3D designers working on server code. Really.

amah
05-13-2010, 14:55
It certainly belongs to the models that received a wider range of changes


it means that the ork female might be similar to what it looks like now ? i will kill myself if this is the case

w0rm
05-13-2010, 17:21
Wonder if devs really think that all this nice and useless shit is the most important thing for 'better DFO'?
Forum is full of screams about servers awful performance and suggestions about siege and pvp problems/ways of improvement. But they still feed us with this fucking awesome fashion brand new stupid useless models?
What is next? New cute and charming forms of wildlife?
This is fucking pvp game, who cares about nice-looking pixels?

Ohh wait, i'm wrong and really feel sorry. We have so few players in DF because those who quited didnt like their race modes.

FUCK THIS.

And yeah, delete this message so nooe can disturb dev's brilliant approach to what is importand and what is not.

Hey smartass, devs don't do animations/design FYI.

stingerII
05-13-2010, 17:22
i wud give them larger eyes ... goes with the "been loving underground" theme

[y3]
05-13-2010, 21:23
i love it

telanerv
05-13-2010, 21:53
meh

darkbringer
05-13-2010, 23:15
I am really likeing these new models and changes being made to DF. I will definatly re-sub. I think and hope it will make the game played how AV designed it to be.
About the changes, especially the models, do they now when they are coming? and if does everyone get to redo the look of there characters?

Zushakon
05-13-2010, 23:26
It looks shit IMO, looks old and fat. Will roll elf as soon as I can.

What's all this talk about re-rolls? Have I missed something or...

Neilk
05-13-2010, 23:35
What's all this talk about re-rolls? Have I missed something or...

They said in an interview that they were considering one time race changes in the future

Zushakon
05-13-2010, 23:39
They said in an interview that they were considering one time race changes in the future

Oh.. ty Neilk.

Zaffax
05-13-2010, 23:43
They said in an interview that they were considering one time race changes in the future

Yes but AV considers a lot of things. Last time I checked they were still considering an upgraded alliance system and local banking, both of which are not ingame yet. :(

Zushakon
05-13-2010, 23:48
Yes but AV considers a lot of things. Last time I checked they were still considering an upgraded alliance system and local banking, both of which are not ingame yet. :(

Don't lose hope! We're like babies crying to our parents that we want candy while in the store, sooner or later they'll cave in :p

lightningbolt
05-14-2010, 00:04
lol at ugly blue goblin

AkashaRET
05-14-2010, 02:49
Meh i don't like it. I like the alfars now better. I thought alfars were supposed to be evil elves. It doesn't look similar to an elf at all.

Canra
05-14-2010, 03:31
Meh i don't like it. I like the alfars now better. I thought alfars were supposed to be evil elves. It doesn't look similar to an elf at all.

Dark Elves amirite? :rolleyes:

Dr Fuenke
05-14-2010, 03:53
Dark Elves amirite? :rolleyes: (go back to wow carebear)

Which is exactly what an alfar is. But you are so cool that you have to comment on anything that darkfall shares with wow and debunk it. Let me touch you please.

FrostByte
05-14-2010, 05:02
Which is exactly what an alfar is. But you are so cool that you have to comment on anything that darkfall shares with wow and debunk it. Let me touch you please.

Last time i checked wow had some shitty night elfs, and some blood elfs, but no dark elfs as far as i know ( you know, the dungeon dwelling, darkskinned and evil elfs), so he´s actualy just trolling around i suppose...

lightningbolt
05-14-2010, 07:28
Last time i checked wow had some shitty night elfs, and some blood elfs, but no dark elfs as far as i know ( you know, the dungeon dwelling, darkskinned and evil elfs), so he´s actualy just trolling around i suppose...

dont really care what wow has, I care about what AV Devs are making for DF.

and that alfar model looks like a damn goblin, think im gonna have to roll a green alfar and get a name like "Goblin Warrior" and roll around with a goblin axe/shield naked, with a short bow.

people will question why there is a wandering goblin spawn.

Tanztanz
05-14-2010, 08:37
Wow a terrible face!

Mossarrow
05-14-2010, 08:46
What high he will be?

Yoda
05-14-2010, 09:23
i prefer the current look

Bans_
05-14-2010, 10:06
Hiya,

I know what you mean yes. This is by far one of the least priority's in Darkfall. However you must understand that designers can't work on siege/pvp fixes like programmers. And you can't just let them do nothing if you pay for them lmao.

Most correct reply ever.

Thank you for not being retarded.

smoke2000
05-14-2010, 11:57
Most graphic designers that end up in the gaming industry can code quite a bit, but it's never a good idea to just throw extra programmers at pieces of code other programmers are used to.

Corpsepoker
05-14-2010, 11:58
Dark Elves amirite? :rolleyes:

That is what they are supposed to be...

Mimodance
05-14-2010, 11:59
Gief male elf model already.

HmmMaybe
05-14-2010, 13:49
Prefer the older faces tbh.

psychosiszz
05-14-2010, 14:23
Prefer the older faces tbh.

What!? you dont like burn victims? thats just harsh

DAA KAPUTTMACHA
05-14-2010, 15:27
Prefer the older faces tbh.

Huh!? You prefer dumb looking "special" people with gigantic foreheads who are cross-eyed!? (http://www.darkfallwiki.de/images/7/73/Alfar_Rasse.jpg)

I like the new model/face approach much more than the current ones.

Lictor
05-14-2010, 16:48
Get rid of the ab-blasted six-pack...it doesn't suit the character.

They should be skinny and weak, like you'd expect a crack addicted magic elf to be.


This. AV, the face looks good (i mean evil :) ), BUT MAKE THE MODEL LESS

Lictor
05-14-2010, 16:49
this. Av, the face looks good (i mean evil :) ), but make the model less

... Athletic and more slim. I would hate a primary magic-user race to be looking like that. Please! :(

Lictor
05-14-2010, 16:52
...and larger eyes!

Zushakon
05-14-2010, 16:57
Fuckin ou' man... learn to edit your damn posts =/

You don't say..

lightningbolt
05-14-2010, 17:14
What!? you dont like burn victims? thats just harsh

Poor alfars...burned again by AV

Lesrach
05-14-2010, 17:43
Face is ok, a bit burned and stretch but ok... ... now about the body...

...Want to be able to look skinny and sick.

Dont mind if someone likes the 24/7 steroid gymmed model ie for melee Alfars but the option for weak-dark-magician-look should be open!

Kimoshu
05-14-2010, 18:40
I am really likeing these new models and changes being made to DF. I will definatly re-sub. I think and hope it will make the game played how AV designed it to be.
About the changes, especially the models, do they now when they are coming? and if does everyone get to redo the look of there characters?

No timeline has been given yet for the new models but the general feel is that they will be in the summer expansion planned for June. All merchant NPCs in the 6 capital cities have a "barber" tab on them in which you can change the appearance of your character for a price; You have the same options as the original character creator I believe.

-Andrew

gorfhag
05-15-2010, 17:04
Terrible!!! I hope I will have a chance to change my race, because I dont want to play with zombie character. Ugliest character ever...

smoke2000
05-15-2010, 17:11
I'm just a bit worried if higher resolution models will go well with some of the lower resolution environment.

Kelsen
05-15-2010, 17:45
I'm just a bit worried if higher resolution models will go well with some of the lower resolution environment.

These are pre-rendered models this isn't what you will see in the game engine. Although the models most likely have more polys than the originals. However with the advancement to Dx11 and the way it handles textures and mapping (maybe we will see bump maps in DF!) I'm fairly certain the entire world is going to look a lot better.

Kneph
05-15-2010, 17:48
I like, particularly because I almost didn't role an alfar in the first place solely because of their looks

Oseven
05-15-2010, 17:59
S*** more uglyer than never, but i like the new natural camouflage =p

Zaffax
05-15-2010, 21:28
Decent but lose the abs.

KORVOSX666XXXX
05-15-2010, 21:31
Decent but lose the abs.

lol seriously whats up with the new 300 style look for DF everyone is ripped as hell "THIS IS SPARTA!!!"

smoke2000
05-15-2010, 21:37
except there's no 300 players to do a remake.

Slaker
05-15-2010, 21:54
Good job on the new model!

KORVOSX666XXXX
05-15-2010, 21:56
except there's no 300 players to do a remake.

:ohno::ninja::lmao::D so true :p:cool:

Gor Warscream
05-15-2010, 22:40
ewwwwwwwwwwww
NOOOOO DO NOT DO THIS
NEW ALFAR LOOKS LIKE SHITTTT

Lictor
05-15-2010, 22:52
Fuckin ou' man... learn to edit your damn posts =/

unfortunately impossible in this thread, noobie.

Zushakon
05-15-2010, 23:14
Fuckin ou' man... learn to edit your damn posts =/

You don't say..

.

Valaska
05-16-2010, 00:05
Alfar will always suck though.

ThunderThighs
05-16-2010, 00:09
eta?

Dr Fuenke
05-16-2010, 12:21
These are pre-rendered models this isn't what you will see in the game engine. Although the models most likely have more polys than the originals. However with the advancement to Dx11 and the way it handles textures and mapping (maybe we will see bump maps in DF!) I'm fairly certain the entire world is going to look a lot better.

You do realize that darkfall hardly utilizes Dx9? Its funny how people think darkfall is going to convert to unreal 4 engine. They have to make the whole game over pretty much to fix their horrid engine. Just look at the trees, they look worse than Morrowind. The game doesn't even have anti-aliasing or bloom for crying out loud!

Neg Malwich
05-17-2010, 16:32
*dislike*

Lollipop
05-17-2010, 17:50
Judging by the number of builds that DarkFall went through during it's creation, I would say that the game could very likely get a new engine in the future. They have to have gone through a few already.

The trees are fine, and easy to improve. The deal with them is that the more trouble that you apply to them, the more that your fps is going to suffer. You have to compromise somewhere. As far as improving them goes, that's a couple of days project for an artist, and a simple switch for a programmer. Mod a game and see...it's easy.

The characters are where you want your polygons going. The problem is the uncanny valley phenomenon. Basically, humans are designed to see our own kind, and even small distortions are easily noticed. A large distortion is actually often accepted better than getting it almost right and missing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley

The new models look much improved. The alfar looks a little beefier than I'd expect, but I notice that the art direction is moving that way in general. The face is appropriately ugly, in about the right way.

I hope the new animations are as good. Seeing where the game's gone in the last year, I'm sure they will be.

Glabro
05-17-2010, 19:08
.

Edit is edit, not that you quote yourself, noobie. :sly:

ajpieri
05-17-2010, 23:09
Why not work on making a better character create experience? Allow us to make them skinnier, taller, shorter, more muscular, etc. Give more options for hair style and color, change eye, nose and mouth shape, etc...

There are tons of games out there that have very good character creation tools. I am sure you could just buy the software from them.

Anyways, the point is that we only get to make one character per account. It would be nice to be able to to customize your guy as much as possible. It would add a lot to the game too because it wouldn't look like someone came in with a cookie cutter and made all the characters. Just my opinion. :ohno:

Lollipop
05-18-2010, 00:50
They don't let you change the body in character creator because that would take a lot of internet bandwidth. Every change to your character has to be sent to the other person's computer as a binary number. The more options there are, the longer the number is.

The other thing they could do would be to allow customization but to use a default body in the case of a bandwidth issue.

Games that allow you to have all of those options don't rely on the fast changing combat or map type that DarkFall does. Most of them push characters onto your client as bandwidth is freed up. Aion does it this way...people pop up in cities in a way that would never work for DarkFall.

To be clear, it's not an issue with your computer, but with the amount of data that must be sent via internet. The problem is neither client or server side, but with the intermediary. They can use what they have for hit detection or for character differentiation, but finally, bandwidth is limited.

One model that's really good, though, or even 3 or 10 you could choose from sounds reasonable, though. But, the more you add, you will eventually get to where the client is going to have rendering problems. Less variation should dramatically increase performance, depending on the engine. Notice that in FPS games the characters all share the same body and often the same textures?

I don't think they are lazy about producing the art, but the game has to be optimized somewhere. And the engine is remarkable, especially because only one game uses it...that's a lot of work for only one game.

Mandariini
05-20-2010, 12:16
Nosferatu! :lmao: don't know if i approve of the massive bat ears..

Prometheus
05-20-2010, 13:31
I hope we alfar can change the skin and some other to


http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/6683/alfarcompforum2.jpg

Trammie
05-20-2010, 15:26
I hope we alfar can change the skin and some other to


http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/6683/alfarcompforum2.jpg

where the nipples?

MCPeePants
05-20-2010, 15:37
why do all the models have that collar that wraps down the arms, and the knee pads. why no do a shirtless model cause that dickie turtleneck thing going on looks silly

Kelsen
05-20-2010, 16:03
why do all the models have that collar that wraps down the arms, and the knee pads. why no do a shirtless model cause that dickie turtleneck thing going on looks silly

Most likely a little trick to cover up seam lines at joints which could be ugly during animation. And the part around the neck is to cover up the decapitation line.

MD-Teza
05-20-2010, 16:11
I hope we alfar can change the skin and some other to


http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/6683/alfarcompforum2.jpg

siiiiick! I want thattttt

Anarchaos
06-11-2010, 10:44
siiiiick! I want thattttt

don't worry, i happened to be a wiz at photoshop. made us a female version without any of AV's help!

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/3378/alfarcompforum8.jpg

Lictor
06-11-2010, 10:53
The art team also wanted us to mention that the models are work in progress and might still be subject to changes and tweaks.

So what's new? Did the art team listen to us and made this model more skinny, with larger eyes and a bit more elf-like ears instead of batlike ones?

Patriota
06-11-2010, 11:09
So what's new? Did the art team listen to us and made this model more skinny, with larger eyes and a bit more elf-like ears instead of batlike ones?

They said nothing.
Don't forget the red eyes alfars current have that are amazing =)

gorfhag
06-11-2010, 12:36
I only hope that they will alow us to change the race and possibly also the gender. If they won't than I'm definately quiting this game. Look is quite important for me and I couldn't look on my character which looks like some zombie of 98 years old ex-culturist.

Ya, I will quit the game if I will be forced to play with this shitty character. I love current alfar look.

And yes, I'm serious!

Anarchaos
06-11-2010, 12:44
I only hope that they will alow us to change the race and possibly also the gender. If they won't than I'm definately quiting this game. Look is quite important for me and I couldn't look on my character which looks like some zombie of 98 years old ex-culturist.

Ya, I will quit the game if I will be forced to play with this shitty character. I love current alfar look.

And yes, I'm serious!

Lol, half the time you don't even see anything but armor, let alone maybe the face if anything. As long as they keep facial expressions to a few good looks, I'm ok with the new models.. I just hope they don't F up the female Alfars. :ohno::ohno::ohno:

Lictor
06-11-2010, 12:51
Lol, half the time you don't even see anything but armor, let alone maybe the face if anything. As long as they keep facial expressions to a few good looks, I'm ok with the new models.. I just hope they don't F up the female Alfars. :ohno::ohno::ohno:

Expect something along the male models ergo ugly as fuck, zombielike and muscular, lol. :sly:

gorfhag
06-11-2010, 12:53
No, I will never be fine with something like this. change the race or quit, there are definately no other options for me. I like watching my alfar resting looking into his face with glowing eyes.

Lictor
06-11-2010, 13:04
No, I will never be fine with something like this. change the race or quit, there are definately no other options for me. I like watching my alfar resting looking into his face with glowing eyes.

I admit, I like the alfars now too. If they only added some better textures/some details, it would be perfectly fine. Problem is, that art dept. has to be busy with something (while not doing anything else atm) and this is the effect... :(

karlek
06-11-2010, 13:31
gorfhad I hope not to see you again you troll -.-

Anarchaos
06-11-2010, 13:47
No, I will never be fine with something like this. change the race or quit, there are definately no other options for me. I like watching my alfar resting looking into his face with glowing eyes.

Uhh.. are you ok?

gorfhag
06-11-2010, 13:52
gorfhad I hope not to see you again you troll -.-What? Sorry, but how am I trolling whan I say that I absolutely dislike new alfar model? It is quite important for me. Unfortunately for you, they will most propably alow us to change race and I won't be forced to quit.

Awesomefusion
06-11-2010, 15:11
i hate it to :p

gorfhag
06-11-2010, 16:13
i hate it to :pOfcourse you do! ;)

Patriota
06-11-2010, 21:13
I admit, I like the alfars now too. If they only added some better textures/some details, it would be perfectly fine. Problem is, that art dept. has to be busy with something (while not doing anything else atm) and this is the effect... :(

This for sure. I love how alfars are right now.

Abaratican
06-11-2010, 22:20
I think it's awesome.

I find it interesting that you'd rather look like albino Ethiopian children than the beast they designed.

Hekkr
06-11-2010, 22:45
I think it's awesome.

I find it interesting that you'd rather look like albino Ethiopian children than the beast they designed.

these look like juiced up dracula's xD

Vap0rware
06-12-2010, 01:13
I think the new alfar model looks WAAAAAAAAAAY better than the old one. Hell all of the models so far look much better. Kudos on the art dept. The old art was a little too cartoony for my taste, these are much more realistic and "dark".

Lictor
06-12-2010, 01:38
I think the new alfar model looks WAAAAAAAAAAY better than the old one. Hell all of the models so far look much better. Kudos on the art dept. The old art was a little too cartoony for my taste, these are much more realistic and "dark".

k, but why so muscular? :confused: