GM Mana Efficiency

[Raghnar]

What is the best;/fast way to raise that to 75? I heard heal other/rend/lend mana with a partner. But i am not sure if the mana eff gains is higher hitting mobs. Any clues?

[Wyverex]

Cheapest way is definitely rotating Rend, Venom and Missile Fury on mobs. Fastest *could* be what you said as you have no downtime

[Karac]

Fastest, but not cheapest, is to use damaging spells (Rend, Venom, Shrapnel, Missile Fury, Begone) on mobs, providing that you land all the spells.

[w0rm]

Gains are better on mobs. Needed ~8k casts 60-75 GM Mana eff.

[stony23]

worst skill ever :( im at like 70 doesnt move much

[Raghnar]

Thanks for the answer. Ill try to hit mobs with it.

[Liano]

worst skill ever :( im at like 70 doesnt move much

no way, the worst is defense !

[Master Isaac]

Heal other is a good way. It needs 150 casts per 0.1 gain (on average) starting at 62. Throw in some food and cast a health to mana from time to time. A helm of mysticism helps too.

But the grind is still horrible

[Yakamoz]

Heal other is a good way. It needs 150 casts per 0.1 gain (on average) starting at 62. Throw in some food and cast a health to mana from time to time. A helm of mysticism helps too.

But the grind is still horrible
:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:

Oh boy...
There is no grind...indeed.

[Funkadoodle]

:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:

Oh boy...
There is no grind...indeed.

Right, also, casting Adept somewhere near 20,000 times to get Spell Chanting is absolutely reasonable. That was sarcasm.

[bongloads]

no way, the worst is defense !

defense is easy, you can get it while you're at work and pay nothing, with no risk of macro-ban. in fact, my alt's rigor raised slower than his defense

orkish brutality's my hardest to raise skill (3-4x harder than mastery).

[Wyverex]

:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:

Oh boy...
There is no grind...indeed.You do not have to have GM Mana Eff 75 to play :bang:
If you want that shit, then work for it, but it is no necessary by any means...

[Raghnar]

You do not have to have GM Mana Eff 75 to play :bang:
If you want that shit, then work for it, but it is no necessary by any means...

Until you realize that your enemy never runs out of mana and you have to cast health to mana all the time. Oh yeah, you dont need it!

[Sarphus]

Until you realize that your enemy never runs out of mana and you have to cast health to mana all the time. Oh yeah, you dont need it!

It's not very hard to get. I don't understand what you're complaining about.

I'm pretty sure you could get it in 1-2 weeks if you're properly motivated. If you think you need it to compete then go get it. It's not hard.

I decided long ago that I wanted to have 75 GM ME so I had global ME. Wanna know what I did? I ground GM for about a week. It was easy and it didn't cost much at all.

[TheDna]

Right, also, casting Adept somewhere near 20,000 times to get Spell Chanting is absolutely reasonable. That was sarcasm.

Spell Chanting is really easy to get to 75... You just sholdnt use adept.
Gm efficiency is a pita. I dont know if i ll ever reach it.
Btw i consider semiafking 20k heal other much easier then casting 8k nukes on mobs. 8k nukes on mobs are also such a waste of time imo :/

[ZZ Top]

Btw i consider semiafking 20k heal other much easier then casting 8k nukes on mobs. 8k nukes on mobs are also such a waste of time imo :/

This.
It took me around 15 hours of more or less constantly healing others from 70 GM Efficiency to 75. My Heal other Spell went from 63,7 to 92,6.

[sc0r0wnz]

heal other is a good way. It needs 150 casts per 0.1 gain (on average) starting at 62. Throw in some food and cast a health to mana from time to time. A helm of mysticism helps too.

But the grind is still horrible

over 9000!!!!

[Raghnar]

I got 7 points last night and finally reached 75. The best way is having a buddy, hes gonna be your best buddy for the rest of your DF journey for doing that, that shoots you lend mana every 10 seconds. He wont run out of mana or stamina neither you. While hes doing that you shoot him with frailty/heal other nonstop. Thats by far the faster i found but its expensive.

[Wyverex]

Raghnar, how many casts was it for those 7 points?

[Raghnar]

It was around 6-7k well worth.

[type]

I got 7 points last night and finally reached 75. The best way is having a buddy, hes gonna be your best buddy for the rest of your DF journey for doing that, that shoots you lend mana every 10 seconds. He wont run out of mana or stamina neither you. While hes doing that you shoot him with frailty/heal other nonstop. Thats by far the faster i found but its expensive.

WTB Buddy

[TheDna]

Just did it as well about 25-30k casts with 58 mana efficiency to begin with.
I had fun doing it as well :P
75 int next, that will take me 1-2 month tho.

[peertje]

I dont understand why people ever grind these sub skills

[Niburu]

I dont understand why people ever grind these sub skills

http://darkfallsage.com/skills/mana-conservation

Very useful if you use spell's, you don't think so ?

[Walking Target]

Just did it as well about 25-30k casts with 58 mana efficiency to begin with.
I had fun doing it as well :P
75 int next, that will take me 1-2 month tho.

Was that on mobs or another player? How much int did you gain during?

[ZZ Top]

throughout the whole grind, starting at around 60 GM Efficiency you will need around 120 - 150 casts on PLAYERS for 0.1 skillgain.

[peertje]

http://darkfallsage.com/skills/mana-conservation

Very useful if you use spell's, you don't think so ?

probably pretty useful but we're talking ONE school of magic here, and many hours of grinding if I read this, for probably a very very minor decrease in mana cost per spell.. depends on how deep you want to go for a game I guess

[Walking Target]

probably pretty useful but we're talking ONE school of magic here, and many hours of grinding if I read this, for probably a very very minor decrease in mana cost per spell.. depends on how deep you want to go for a game I guess

Grinding greater magic mana efficiency to 75 is just to get the prerequisite to purchase the mana conservation skill, which applies to all schools of magic.

Global mana efficiency is pretty useful for a career mage IMO.

[peertje]

Grinding greater magic mana efficiency to 75 is just to get the prerequisite to purchase the mana conservation skill, which applies to all schools of magic.

Global mana efficiency is pretty useful for a career mage IMO.

ah, I missed something then.. yeah, that sheds a different light on it.

[chokke]

Grinding greater magic mana efficiency to 75 is just to get the prerequisite to purchase the mana conservation skill, which applies to all schools of magic.

Global mana efficiency is pretty useful for a career mage IMO.

I am curious of how often high tier mages (80-90+ int) run out of mana. I am aware that the skill is just a bonus, but how useful is it for fulltimemages?