Is Darkfall Free?

[Taborri]

Is Darkfall going to be a web based browser for free, a download for free, or P2P like WoW and D&D online? Or will it be like Runescape with a free version and a P2P version with more upgrades and a larger map?

[[DJ]Hugo]

It's a next gen, fully 3d, mass multiplayer online roleplaying game.
It's not going to be free. $15 a month I'd imagine, and $50 first ofcourse to purchase the game.

[Viranth]

[DJ]Hugo is correct, allthough the final price hasn't been set. In other words, we don't know how much it'll cost to purchase, or how much it'll be a month.

[Flark]

I hope it costs a lot of money

[Arious]

Why do you want a high price for it flark? :ninja:

[tzeenchde]

It is gonna cost money to play, and as someone said above will most likely be 15.00 dollars a month.

[Wedge]

They've always stated that the monthly price will be competitive with other MMORPGs on the market when it releases. According to market trends, this puts it at $15/mo with a discount of a few dollars if you buy 3, 6, or 12 months in advance. I would imagine that's a good estimate right now, though no official announcement will be made on this until we are very close to the box hitting shelves.

[FrozenAcid]

Semi-related to this thread... Will DarkFall(when it's released) have Time Cards such as WoW and EQ? Because, if you didn't have them, it wouldn't affect you majorly, but minorly it would. ;) And that would mean no DF for me. :/

[Wedge]

There is no official word on time cards or alternate payment methods. I can't even speculate on that one, it could really go either way.

[Harvest]

I hope it isn't too expensive... I have no clue what that guy up there is talking about...

[Mahirim Warrior]

I think the monthly payments will be about WoW standards.(Even though this is 100 times better than WoW.):cool:

[Shroud]

Heh...I won't be buying it if there is going to be a monthly fee. I would love to, except my parents wont let me(they don't like me spending all that time on the computer). Plus it is Junior year for me in High School, meaning lots of tests. I probably wont have time for gaming. =(

...But that doesn't stop me from contributing! =)

[Brannoc]

The vast majority of MMOs do have fees I'm afraid.

[Squatch]

The monthly fees can be a bit tough. I had a 2 box a month habit quite a while ago. Now, I just stick to one MMOG and that is a heck of a lot cheaper for me.

[Shroud]

The vast majority of MMOs do have fees I'm afraid.

Couldn't it be like Guild Wars?

Well, I will continue to feedback and suggest during the beta stage, then leave when it goes Gold.

[Squatch]

Couldn't it be like Guild Wars?

Well, I will continue to feedback and suggest during the beta stage, then leave when it goes Gold.

Guild Wars is not an MMORPG.

[Tethron]

high fees has one advantege , it helps keep kiddies away :lmao:

[Shroud]

high fees has one advantege , it helps keep kiddies away :lmao:

It brings spoilt kids in though.

[Tethron]

yeah tho u never get rid of them if they find the game intresting hehe. :bang:

[SludgeMcGrudge]

It brings spoilt kids in though.
Originally Posted by Tethron
yeah tho u never get rid of them if they find the game intresting hehe. :bang:


PK them :ninja: that's the best use for spoiled kiddies

[RazorsKiss]

I wont play a game without fee's. Fee's help keep the server(s) clean of hacks bots and some violating users. A game without fee's usually is not "kept up" and at $15 a month, put it in the day from and see it as 50 cents a day. It's really not that bad at all.

[nhpr]

Besides the costs of maintaining an MMO's software (content updates, bug fixes, etc.) the cost of keeping a huge server up are ridiculous. Bandwidth alone for one server catering to 10k people will have to be at least $15k a month. Then there's the large network of beefy computers to actually run the server-side software, the database technician to make sure the world data doesn't get corrupted and everything wiped, security expert and firewall out DDoS attacks and whatnot, GMs, etc.

I'm sure I've left out other substantial chunks of cost, because I've never worked at a company producing an MMO. The point is, there are lots of costs inherent in keeping a game just running. If they do have a monthly fee, their actual profit margins from the fee won't be that great.

[Haight]

Heh...I won't be buying it if there is going to be a monthly fee. I would love to, except my parents wont let me(they don't like me spending all that time on the computer). Plus it is Junior year for me in High School, meaning lots of tests. I probably wont have time for gaming. =(

...But that doesn't stop me from contributing! =)

Whoa kid, if you think you have no time to play video games as a junior in high school, you are in for a world of disappointment.

[Thuiquin]

My guess is the game will be between $9.95 - $14.95, since it is new I only assume it will start out at $14.95 a month. As people said earlier, the actual profit won't what people think. Bandwidth will likely be the biggest expense the company has a month, depending on how many individuals they have working for them. The general rule of thumb is a business pays about 80% of the money it receives which goes to all of it's bandwidth, employees, upgrades, rents and 20% is profit.

[Slo]

Tho it does look a lot better then uo, I hope the price will be the same to purchase the game, around $30 allows people to give in to the purchase a lot easier and I bet a lot of uo players would find it easy to jump on over.

[Abix]

Whoa kid, if you think you have no time to play video games as a junior in high school, you are in for a world of disappointment.

I have never heard a finer paragon of verity, in other words QFT.

I have never cared how much games cost. To me games are the most economical form of entertainment over the long run, especially MMO's, considering the amount of time most people pour into these games. You go see a movie, that's $10 for 2 hours. I would gladly pay $30/month if I knew it ensured a quality gaming experience.

I've been trying to convince a good friend of mine to leap into MMORPG's. He's an avid gamer but avoids them because of the monthly fee, this coming from a guy who has a $70/month cellphone bill and $400 car payments. I just don't understand his reasoning.

$15 is a whopping 2 hours a month working at minimum wage, everyone can afford that.

[Preston]

I have never heard a finer paragon of verity, in other words QFT.

I have never cared how much games cost. To me games are the most economical form of entertainment over the long run, especially MMO's, considering the amount of time most people pour into these games. You go see a movie, that's $10 for 2 hours. I would gladly pay $30/month if I knew it ensured a quality gaming experience.

I've been trying to convince a good friend of mine to leap into MMORPG's. He's an avid gamer but avoids them because of the monthly fee, this coming from a guy who has a $70/month cellphone bill and $400 car payments. I just don't understand his reasoning.

$15 is a whopping 2 hours a month working at minimum wage, everyone can afford that.

These days it costs $20 for a night at the movies. I think the cost is well worth it too.

[Stercus]

Couldn't it be like Guild Wars?

Well, I will continue to feedback and suggest during the beta stage, then leave when it goes Gold.

Guild Wars is not an accurate example of a MMORPG. Guild Wars is a next gen Diablo/Battle.net system. Notice the MMORPGs put out by GW's parent company require monthly fees.

[ColoringIsFun]

Is Darkfall going to be a web based browser for free, a download for free, or P2P like WoW and D&D online? Or will it be like Runescape with a free version and a P2P version with more upgrades and a larger map?
Read and you will find your answer :)

[STONEDnSTEALTHY]

Is Darkfall going to be a web based browser for free, a download for free, or P2P like WoW and D&D online? Or will it be like Runescape with a free version and a P2P version with more upgrades and a larger map?

I think it should be like runescape with a free verion because my parents wouldnt let me subscribe to something with a $15monthly fee.

[mowa]

I don't think $15.00 a month is all that bad. I mean you can't go out for a evening for that cheap and the fee will keep you busy for a whole month.

[Akatosh]

Personally, I think MMOs are extremely cheap. Even more so if you can convince your gilrfriend to play them- you wont have to take her out so much.

[Malachon Draco]

Personally, I think MMOs are extremely cheap. Even more so if you can convince your gilrfriend to play them- you wont have to take her out so much.


Not sure that also goes for Darkfall. Imagine all the gifts you're gonna have to buy her after PKing her for the third time in a week :D

[Akatosh]

True, but I wont necissarily have to spend real cash on them.. :lmao:

[Taliac]

Semi-related to this thread... Will DarkFall(when it's released) have Time Cards such as WoW and EQ? Because, if you didn't have them, it wouldn't affect you majorly, but minorly it would. ;) And that would mean no DF for me. :/

I hope they will add other payment methods than creditcard.
I would be playing Daoc now if i ould use something else than creditcard to play on european servers.

They have some time to think about other payment methods because i don't see this game coming out within a year.

But i do think that this will be the best game ever :)

[Laron]

Personally, I think MMOs are extremely cheap. Even more so if you can convince your gilrfriend to play them- you wont have to take her out so much.
I used to play WoW with my fiance, and we hope to play Darkfall together. However, while he doesn't have to take me out so much... I make him make up for it in game by purchasing me stuff =) Don't think you get off too easy.:)

[The_Outsider]

I won't be buying it if there is going to be a monthly fee. I would love to, except my parents wont let me(they don't like me spending all that time on the computer) :ohno: :bang: :eek:

I made a user account simply to do this post and perhaps open up a possibility... this could be easily fixed IMHO by an option set by the purchaser of the product (in this case the parents and only them) on how much time available each day of playing time IG; thus they could safely assure themselves that if their avid player (son/daughter) did indeed fail tests it was not on the part of their wallets in insuring some fun playing time for their avid student.. I hope you catch my drift..

I make this suggestion just to help my own playing experience if I decide to purchase a copy... you see, I hope that in helping those friends of mine that have been sucked into such games as WoW where anyone is a hero and hope fades quickly from a rejuvinating diversion to become a great weight on their available time and energy to other pursuits in a healthy diversified life; I might spend my time and money on Darkfall with good spirits...

I hope suggestions or threads will pop up on how to do this practically or constructive criticism on why such an option is a waste of time or energy on the part of the developers... I also hope dev's will take a note on the ease of finding people that cancel their accounts in MMO games because they feel significant deprivation of their quality of life (I am not suggesting addiction, I am putting it to your ethic sense to make a small simple change).

I hope flamers will keep in mind that people may do whatever they so choose and I am not trying to keep responible adults from playing their brains out until their retinas drop upon respective keyboards *pauses for breath* but merely an option for parents so they can sponsor the fun of their children with a light spirit!

Looking away from the fact that such an option might simply remain an unused possibility on the users' part(definition of option I presume :rolleyes:) this might possibly bring more customers to Darkfall, no? ;)

PS:

I hope you hug your parents often Shroud; commending their good sense; they are doing it for you you know :D

[Fyrestrom]

I think it should be like runescape with a free verion because my parents wouldnt let me subscribe to something with a $15monthly fee.

I think your parents should be more worried that your forum handle is StonedandStealthy

[zaxafien]

i heard some were it will be 10$ my question is can you pay with debt??

[Wedge]

i heard some were it will be 10$ my question is can you pay with debt??With debt?

You mean like IOUs? I think they prefer actual currency, transfered via Credit or Debit through the internet to their account. The monthly charge will be comparable to other MMOs at the time of release.

[Iggy Munster]

Couldn't it be like Guild Wars?

bad?

[Gervarin]

:idea::idea::idea:
It would be the best that Darkfall was a MMORPG but the payment like in RuneScape and VCO.That would higher the popularity of Darkfall in mass.So that we pay for item mail and half of the world would be not for non-member players.

[Forgin]

high fees has one advantege , it helps keep kiddies away :lmao:

take a look at WOW, it has a monthly fee of about 15$ but it is filled with kids.
Anyway I think it's good to have a monthly fee because it (usually) means you get good service and constant maintenance of the game. and 15$ a month aint that much, I would spend more on buying not MMO videogames if I wouldnt play an MMO.

[Jumong]

though i would probably prefer b2p like guild wars, i understand that they deserve to earn money for their efforts in making what would be a awesome game. as forgin said it allows them to give good services and maintenances.:rolleyes:

[Surpunt]

hi i hope drakfall comes fast and i can pay with wallie cart LOL
i think it uses pay by cash so ppl from europe can play to without credit
cards pls let it come fast i can't wait :ohno::bang: e-mail me when it comes to europe thanks

[Tecate]

ya definitly there is going to be a montly fee of around $14-15.

[volcyn]

high fees has one advantege , it helps keep kiddies away :lmao:
that equals noobs with no skill but a lot of time they get a ton of mony and good gear you kill and loot then he uses money in bank to buy uber armor of uberness and the ultimate sword of pwnage and run at you you kill lol

[kumorilastangel]

I just hope the fee isn't ridiculous. 15.00 a month isn't so bad but I wouldn't mind if it was like guild wars or even free. Mostlikly just wishful thinking tho...

[kupo]

lol web based.

:bang::bang::bang::bang:

[Realbigdeal22]

Couldn't it be like Guild Wars?

Well, I will continue to feedback and suggest during the beta stage, then leave when it goes Gold.

Guildwars is not an mmorpg.Its a mmocorpg.And it sux. i quit when i was level 2.

[forestchild]

Is Darkfall going to be a web based browser for free, a download for free, or P2P like WoW and D&D online? Or will it be like Runescape with a free version and a P2P version with more upgrades and a larger map?

NEWBEE SECTION:p

[Armstrong[DiE]]

Probably around 12 euros a month, cheap for a hobby if you ask me. :p

[Realbigdeal22]

when i was 14 years old,i hated mmorpg because we need montly fee and i knew that my parents wont ever pay something on the computer whit their cards. So i downloaded a private server of ragnaok online mi 1st mmorpg whit instant level 99.

[Dredread]

Is Darkfall going to be a web based browser for free, a download for free, or P2P like WoW and D&D online? Or will it be like Runescape with a free version and a P2P version with more upgrades and a larger map?

Way to ask such an advanced question...

[Bojangles34]

If we pay fees we will get better updates. That's how it always seems to work out.

[Soulcullers]

There will be fees, any game like this has costs to run, a developer team to pay and such like. I'm hoping the initial purchase price isn't too high and the monthly subscriptions are indeed competitive. In order to be competitive they will need to be a few bucks a month below the competition, which already surpasses the graphical offerings of Darkfall. Yes, I know, gameplay > graphics. But if you release a product even if only seemingly of lesser quality of another product, a slightly cheaper price will draw in folks who will compare the two side by side.

As long as a life time subscription option is there I'm happy. I never pay monthly. I hate having the bills each month. I'd rather pay $30 for the game and another $100 and have done for life :P

[Jreed]

I think it should be like runescape with a free verion because my parents wouldnt let me subscribe to something with a $15monthly fee.


start mowing lawns or something, then go to the bank and open your OWN checking account. Then you can spend money on whatever you want

[Bojangles34]

I have never heard of a lifetime subscription... And if there is one, 100$ sounds kind of cheap.

[Ragnar Dragonfyre]

:ohno: :bang: :eek:

I made a user account simply to do this post and perhaps open up a possibility... this could be easily fixed IMHO by an option set by the purchaser of the product (in this case the parents and only them) on how much time available each day of playing time IG; thus they could safely assure themselves that if their avid player (son/daughter) did indeed fail tests it was not on the part of their wallets in insuring some fun playing time for their avid student.. I hope you catch my drift..

I make this suggestion just to help my own playing experience if I decide to purchase a copy... you see, I hope that in helping those friends of mine that have been sucked into such games as WoW where anyone is a hero and hope fades quickly from a rejuvinating diversion to become a great weight on their available time and energy to other pursuits in a healthy diversified life; I might spend my time and money on Darkfall with good spirits...

I hope suggestions or threads will pop up on how to do this practically or constructive criticism on why such an option is a waste of time or energy on the part of the developers... I also hope dev's will take a note on the ease of finding people that cancel their accounts in MMO games because they feel significant deprivation of their quality of life (I am not suggesting addiction, I am putting it to your ethic sense to make a small simple change).

I hope flamers will keep in mind that people may do whatever they so choose and I am not trying to keep responible adults from playing their brains out until their retinas drop upon respective keyboards *pauses for breath* but merely an option for parents so they can sponsor the fun of their children with a light spirit!

Looking away from the fact that such an option might simply remain an unused possibility on the users' part(definition of option I presume :rolleyes:) this might possibly bring more customers to Darkfall, no? ;)

PS:

I hope you hug your parents often Shroud; commending their good sense; they are doing it for you you know :D

I think this is better solved by not allowing your children to play an M rated game.

Kids have no place in Darkfall.

Edit: Besides that, generally, the only people who are concerned about subscription fees are kids who expect their parents to pay for them. A subscription fee at least keeps kids from overrunning the game. If you don't fall into this catagory and a subscription fee still worries you, MMORPGs are not for you.

[Giran]

if you practice necromancy you get an alignment hit.

[Realbigdeal22]

if you practice necromancy you get an alignment hit.

Shut up.Necromancer are cool.

[Byggin]

Rate DFO mature and charge 25-30 bucks a month. It'll keep kiddies away.

[Ragnar Dragonfyre]

Rate DFO mature and charge 25-30 bucks a month. It'll keep kiddies away.

Please.

[Draconaes]

um... this thread is a couple years old why has it been revived?

[Mayday]

I think $15 USD is more than fair, and many minors play mmorpgs much better than "mature" gamers. I am not against teenagers playing the game as long as GMs can keep all spamming and annoyances under control... (Which for the most part is probably not from the kids)

[kupo]

I think $15 USD is more than fair, and many minors play mmorpgs much better than "mature" gamers. I am not against teenagers playing the game as long as GMs can keep all spamming and annoyances under control... (Which for the most part is probably not from the kids)

i agree +1

[Jacen Solo]

Why has this thread been revived from 2006 to 03 of 08 then 06 of 08 then 09 of 08????? WHY

[VorpalSpork]

Is Darkfall going to be a web based browser for free, a download for free, or P2P like WoW and D&D online? Or will it be like Runescape with a free version and a P2P version with more upgrades and a larger map?

This has only been asked 39212359167 times before. Try using search next time. Basic common sense would have answered these questions for you anyway. Not Korean = subscription. 3D = not browser based.

[fourak]

I dont think this belongs to this section of the forum....

to quote the devs, I think they said they have bills to pay ;)

[Byggin]

I think $15 USD is more than fair, and many minors play mmorpgs much better than "mature" gamers. I am not against teenagers playing the game as long as GMs can keep all spamming and annoyances under control... (Which for the most part is probably not from the kids)

I disagree 30$ a month is still a cheap hobby.

I can forsee benefits for charging this much.

1. Paying 30$ for your childs video game a month makes parents reconsider and I think will limit the under mature players.

2. People willing to pay that much really want to play DFO, they are the type that understand what the devs are shooting for and like it. They don't want to change the game. You can see from this beta influx of all the post that want to change features of the game.

Now I am no financial genius or even pretend to know much about it, but charging double the going rate will mean less subscriptions. I don't think this is a bad thing, the people not willing to pay that much probably won't last in this game anyways. DFO will get more money from their targeted player base and in the long run make more money?

[topper51]

Is Darkfall going to be a web based browser for free, a download for free, or P2P like WoW and D&D online? Or will it be like Runescape with a free version and a P2P version with more upgrades and a larger map?

shouldnt this be in the noob area?

also

have you read anything about this game? have you even looked at the main page? seriously?

totally P2P:bang::bang::bang::bang:

[Aeros]

Is Darkfall going to be a web based browser for free, a download for free, or P2P like WoW and D&D online? Or will it be like Runescape with a free version and a P2P version with more upgrades and a larger map?

Why are you here, in the non-noob section of forums. You're asking for flame and gonna later report being verbally abused and then the mods will take it out on us for not doing anything that we ordinarily wouldn't do

[ermorden]

Whoa kid, if you think you have no time to play video games as a junior in high school, you are in for a world of disappointment.

Conversely, the kid is absolutely right. When I was in highschool I was playing sports and had very little time for gaming other than A) opting not to do homework, which I hugely regret. Or, B) waiting for winter/spring/summer
break. I strongly urge him to keep his nose to the grindstone.

As for having time later in life, you'll have so much time in college you won't know what to do. As for after that, well, it's up to you.

[Mushukyou]

Is Darkfall going to be a web based browser for free, a download for free, or P2P like WoW and D&D online? Or will it be like Runescape with a free version and a P2P version with more upgrades and a larger map?

It will be free.






If your allowance is $15 a month.

[Claes]

Guildwars is not an mmorpg.Its a mmocorpg.And it sux. i quit when i was level 2.

This makes you incapable of judging the game.

[andy9306]

Shut up.Necromancer are cool.

While Giran is not completely correct, your reaction was not warranted.

Some necromantic spells will cause you to take an alignment hit. Not all, possibly not most, but at least some.

[Ghetis]

I wont play a game without fee's. Fee's help keep the server(s) clean of hacks bots and some violating users. A game without fee's usually is not "kept up" and at $15 a month, put it in the day from and see it as 50 cents a day. It's really not that bad at all.

Agreed. Its cheaper than supporting one of those kids Sally Struthers is always crying about.

[Ragnar Dragonfyre]

While Giran is not completely correct, your reaction was not warranted.

Some necromantic spells will cause you to take an alignment hit. Not all, possibly not most, but at least some.

Geeze, you must be new to the internet.

He's referring to thread necromancy. Not the actual spell.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y34/adeptusmoronicus/thread_necromancer.png

[stingerII]

Is Darkfall Free?

Of course not!

[Pernix]

Is Darkfall going to be a web based browser for free

Seriously, what the fuck?

[Fraden]

Wow 2 mods and 1 admin responding to a post? This is like a power thread or something now :)!

Plus think about it, they loaned millions of dollars from a bank just to make this game, there is no way it is free. Sorry but the truth is harsh.

[entreri22]

i hope its like $10

[shidosuru]

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[Fraden]

i hope its like $10

Yea not ganna happen dude. Expect at least $35+ with a pretty high monthly rate, around $12-$16 month.

[Draconaes]

Does anyone even bother to read the date of the post they are flaming anymore?:bang:

btw it's not in newcomer 'cause it was created a couple years before the newcomer forum.

edit: please let this thread die again, it's pointless.

[Rallore]

how come they don't just advertise a bunch. with a one time buy at the store or online.

[Kherani]

how come they don't just advertise a bunch. with a one time buy at the store or online.

How come you just don't let a 2+ year thread die?

[Snowie]

Is Darkfall going to be a web based browser for free, a download for free, or P2P like WoW and D&D online? Or will it be like Runescape with a free version and a P2P version with more upgrades and a larger map?

EDIT: DISREGARD THAT I SUCK COCKS

[Draconaes]

EDIT: DISREGARD THAT I SUCK COCKS

I'm tempted to put that in my sig.

[tazco]

I have never heard a finer paragon of verity, in other words QFT.

I have never cared how much games cost. To me games are the most economical form of entertainment over the long run, especially MMO's, considering the amount of time most people pour into these games. You go see a movie, that's $10 for 2 hours. I would gladly pay $30/month if I knew it ensured a quality gaming experience.

I've been trying to convince a good friend of mine to leap into MMORPG's. He's an avid gamer but avoids them because of the monthly fee, this coming from a guy who has a $70/month cellphone bill and $400 car payments. I just don't understand his reasoning.

$15 is a whopping 2 hours a month working at minimum wage, everyone can afford that.

I agree i don`t care about the monthly fee, the problem i do have
is i chose to stay away from credit cards. I to am hoping they have
game cards or atlest paypal.

Abix you said your friend is a gamer, what do you figure he spends a month
on renting or buying games. Or let me guess he does not want to pay a monthly fee for a game, he downloads his games does`t he.:lmao:

$15 a month is fine $30 is alittle steep since anyone else like me that
have there wife playing at $30 a month just turns to $60 a month.
With buying to game copys plus both monthly fees and expantions...
Depends on how long it takes for expations. As for asking for a higher price so kids don`t play thats just stupid.

I can`t see it being anymore then $15 a month, If it is more then the first guy that said he wanted it to be alot is paying for mine thanks

[Deneb]

Is Darkfall going to be a web based browser for free

I'm afraid Darkfall will not be a browser, only a video game. Have a look at Firefox, it has bookmarks, tab navigation and a useful back button. ;)