06/09/06, Warcry - Housing Destruction, NPCs, Game Mechanics

[Selzi]

http://df.warcry.com/scripts/news/view_news.phtml?site=7&id=54910

Images:
http://images.warcry.com/image.php?id=78506
http://images.warcry.com/image.php?id=78507

Discuss.

[Asmodeus]

just found it as well, reading it now.

Wewt! a promise to answer racial mount question next week.

Their attack is less powerful than other mounted attacks, closer to the power of attack of the other mounts rather than the attack of the rider. If the Mahirim chooses to ride another racial mount, it can inflict normal rider damage. You're right about the lunging from all fours at the throat of an enemy by the way. The Mahirim uses a bite attack.


This interview was 10x better than the last. Clearing up the Mahirim mount situation was one of the questions i wanted to hear and the lunge attack is just cool!

[[DJ]Hugo]

Wooooop! reading...

[[DJ]Hugo]

Not bad info, Blackwatch is gonna love the Mahirim <3

[Darkrouge101]

"Q: Can you base a clan out of a ship such that when you die, you respawn on that ship?

A: No, you respawn at a clan stone. I think that there was a misconception about the 'putting your entire clan on a ship' capability. It was meant to signify the size of some ships, rather than their core function. Ships are combat platforms and means of transportation. Some of them are certainly large enough to load up your clan, but the clan members that get picked off, have missed the boat ;)"

Awesome. Being able to spawn in the ship would enable clans to effectively constantly spawn guys in an combat situation; and this gives piracy a bit more realism :)

[doma]

Nice Screens! :D

[Orpheus66]

am i missing something...where are the pictures or has my ad blocker blocked the pics??

[khieron]

cant wait for this one to be answered Q: Could you name all the racial mounts?

[Orpheus66]

Nice Screens! :D

ahhh..where are they..i dont see them!!

argggggg

[[DJ]Hugo]

#1

http://images.warcry.com/image.php?id=78507

#2

http://images.warcry.com/image.php?id=78506

[Khael[SUN]]

Nice screens

The left hand question was a waste, but the others were ok :)

[Virtra]

Great questions this week! Not that I would mind if they were bad. ;)

Q: Can you base a clan out of a ship such that when you die, you respawn on that ship?

A: No, you respawn at a clan stone. I think that there was a misconception about the 'putting your entire clan on a ship' capability. It was meant to signify the size of some ships, rather than their core function. Ships are combat platforms and means of transportation. Some of them are certainly large enough to load up your clan, but the clan members that get picked off, have missed the boat ;)

Awwww!!! Well, at least I got my answer. Although as a follow up question I would ask whether or not you can bind a teleportation stone (assuming they are still in the game) to a ship.

Btw the screen look very nice. I like the fact that weather will make a stong visual impact.

[Selzi]

Awesome. Being able to spawn in the ship would enable clans to effectively constantly spawn guys in an combat situation; and this gives piracy a bit more realism :)

Unless I'm reading the quote wrong, the developers are saying that you CAN NOT spawn in a ship. You can only spawn at your bind point, the clan stone. And those are on land.

Edit: I may have misunderstood you, actually. So nevermind.

[Orpheus66]

if you are dumb like me here are the pics:

http://images.warcry.com/image.php?id=78507

http://images.warcry.com/image.php?id=78506

i wonder if there will be a ticking sound when the rain hits the armour??

edit: these posts are coming fast!!

[Asmodeus]

Im curious as to the mention of defesnsive structures. Im thinking of like towers (kinda like what u see in the second SS), maybe mounted siege euipment on walls... who knows...

happy to see a new set of armor in the SS as well.

[Jarlaxle[mezzo]]

Q: Could you name all the racial mounts?

A: I'll answer this one next week. I'll remember to add it to the batch of questions you send.

Way to build anticipation... Good work this time, indeed. Darkfall has my hopes up again

[HoodRat]

The fact that Mahirim don't have their own racial mount, but aren't banned from using other races' mounts is an example of sound thinking by the Devs as far as I'm concerned. Reaffirms my faith in their ability.

Great Q&A this week.

[MorkDaOrc]

You guys can thank me for I was the one to convince Ara to ask the "What are all the Racial Mount's?" question :)

[Darkrouge101]

Edit: I may have misunderstood you, actually. So nevermind.

Yeah sorry it was confusing.

It is awesome that pirates CAN'T spawn on their ships. This way, they will only have a limited number of members onboard, which therefore makes piracy more realistic :)


I'm pretty sure that you won't be able to bind the respawn to the ships, because it would effectively be the same thing as simply being able to spawn to the ship the whole time. Plus, if the respawn was bound to the ship, and the ship was sunk... well... you get the picture. Your entire piracy ring (or clan, whatever), would be lost for eternity :).

Unless they could breathe underwater, that is.

[Orpheus66]

good update

i lernt a few new things

this will keep me happy till next week :D

[Niccoli]

Very very tasty tidbits.

Thanks for the Q&A Ara and thanks also to Tasos for taking time to answer them.

Going to go back into the detox cage now.

[LanMandragon]

Thank you again Ara.

Very good questions this week, NICE Screens!

[Orpheus66]

lol, i click on this thread when there was 17 posts and 18 views

i finish writing my post and it goes to 19posts and 122views

whoa!

[Virtra]

Q: Will there be a limit of how many hired guards a city can have in its garrison, or can we buy as many as we can afford?

A: The way it works is that there's a limit on the number of guards per defensive structure. I'm forced to be vague here and let you speculate as to what that might mean, basically because we're not at liberty to discuss this in more depth yet. I'd give you a number of guards per defensive structure too, but that's something we're still testing.
Good news indeed.

I hope that this is also the case for characters. I never really liked the idea that a clanstone would have a set limit on bind spots. Rather, I always thought it would make more sense to set the limit of bind spots based upon how much player-housing you had. Not to mention the fact that this would actually (for the first time ever, except I guess the Sims Online...) make player housing an integral aspect of the gameplay.

[Shaar]

Some very nice info in there. Thanks Ara.

[Darkmatter]

Excellent! Thank you DF team and Warcry. :) I'll go to bed with a smile.

[Darkrouge101]

I hope that this is also the case for characters. I never really liked the idea that a clanstone would have a set limit on bind spots. Rather, I always thought it would make more sense to set the limit of bind spots based upon how much player-housing you had. Not to mention the fact that this would actually (for the first time ever, except I guess the Sims Online...) make player housing an integral aspect of the gameplay.

Genious.

[Niccoli]

Awwww!!! Well, at least I got my answer. Although as a follow up question I would ask whether or not you can bind a teleportation stone (assuming they are still in the game) to a ship.

I am assuming you mean the ability to recall/port bind stones (ie. Mark/Recall ala UO):

I am betting that 'recall' stones bind to a specific location (X,Y,Z coordinate on the map), so since your ship moves around, it would bind to that place the ship was last. Of course, bind points on various nearby islands wouldn't be bad.

[Niccoli]

NICE Screens!

I love how dark the second screen is. If the can make night/caves/dungeons that dark (and find a way to keep gamma adjustments of bypassing dark) that would be extremely cool. Actually need a light source, Alfar most likely not needing any...

[Murray]

This is all very encouraging. It's nice to visit and see new content rather than the same topics rehashed for the 98th time over...

[Virtra]

I am assuming you mean the ability to recall/port bind stones (ie. Mark/Recall ala UO):

I am betting that 'recall' stones bind to a specific location (X,Y,Z coordinate on the map), so since your ship moves around, it would bind to that place the ship was last. Of course, bind points on various nearby islands wouldn't be bad.
Yeah, I figured that was probably the case also, still it seems likely that they would be able to get around this technicality via some good round-a-bout coding. So if they can actually get arond the technical issue, I'm still interested in whether they want to or not.

[Selzi]

About the screenshots.

1) We know there is rain
2) We know that they still aren't showing races besides human and ork
3) The rain doesn't seem to be putting the fire out on the torches
4) Another warpig screenshot
5) Looks like we see a new (maybe two new) sets of armor for the ork. Or, at least, not the bone armor

On darkness of caves:
Lore says there will be handheld torches.

[ObsiDian_Osiris]

yay actual new info

[rekker]

Good screens with some crazy looking rain. I'd like to see that in action!

I'm praying for some screenshots of interface screenshots sometime soon. The interface is going to be extremely important and we havn't had any shots of it in over a year! So its obviously gona be different to the last interface shots.

[Pavlos]

Nice update. The rain looks great, I wish I could see it live :)

[Darkrouge101]

This is all very encouraging. It's nice to visit and see new content rather than the same topics rehashed for the 98th time over...

Although everyone is very anxious for DFO to come out as soon as possible, I'm relieved that they are taking their time to get it done right. I'd much rather wait a while for the game to be released and be awesome than have it be rushed to meet the demands of a strict parent company only looking for profits, much like nearly every MMO out right now, and end up being a flop.

[Darkrouge101]

Yeah, I figured that was probably the case also, still it seems likely that they would be able to get around this technicality via some good round-a-bout coding. So if they can actually get arond the technical issue, I'm still interested in whether they want to or not.

The technical issue wouldn't be a problem, in regards to the (X,Y,Z) coordinate systems; it would take a mere one or two lines of code to simply call the current location of the ship to spawn there.

The problem is that if people are able to constantly spawn at a ship then battles/raids/etc would be a long, drawn out process, and there would be less consideration of dying. This way, by not being able to spawn on the ship, more tactics would be necessary in order to preserve the few lives that are on the ship (or however many people you can pack onto it).

[Rhynn]

Sweet! And we finally learn what mounts the Dwarves will have!! woohoo!

[ChaoteWolf]

Way Cool! Good job on the questions this time. My inner Mahirim is wagging it's tail. Sharpening teeth now :D

[Selzi]

<Brannoc> oh, and since no one seems to have noticed, send your Warcry questions to the nick WarCryQA on the forums via PM

http://forums.darkfallonline.com/member.php?u=32481

[gold]

it looks extremely fun and exciting as expected.. love the new info... but still wish for devs to finally just TALK to us. :(

[Darkrouge101]

it looks extremely fun and exciting as expected.. love the new info... but still wish for devs to finally just TALK to us. :(

The more time they talk to us, the less time they have to work on the game ;)

[Zerikin Loukbel]

sweet

[Solice]

Good job, keep up the good work and get it done!

[Elix]

Now that was a great Q&A. Those screenshots make my pants happy.

[Noeme]

So destroying a house won't be easy afterall.

[Chronos]

The more time they talk to us, the less time they have to work on the game ;)

Bah, if they take 8 hours out of a day to update the community that means that the game launches 8 hours later. You think it really matters if they release the game 181 days from now rather than 180 days from now? Rubbish.

[Mhorham]

A good set of questions and some decent answers. I really hope this line of comunication stays open! Please let it happen this time around :p

[Dalris]

some decent info asked. im glad that mahirim mount stuff was cleared up.

and wow i had doubts about the weather and stuff really affecting combat but geez. it looks like it might lol

[Darkrouge101]

Bah, if they take 8 hours out of a day to update the community that means that the game launches 8 hours later. You think it really matters if they release the game 181 days from now rather than 180 days from now? Rubbish.

Maybe I should stop using sarcasm, because it looks like I have to spoon feed it to some people. -_-;

[Jaevin]

Q: Can you stop milking the new darkfall content?

[Shadow Walker2020]

Q: What are the developers doing about housing destruction? Will it be a simple task of just hitting the house with a sword for an hour or just throwing a torch at the roof and sitting back and watching it burn, or will houses only be able to be destroyed by siege engine?

A: We never thought it was a good idea beating down a structure with a dagger. Buildings can be destroyed by deploying and using one of the many different types of siege engines we've got in the game.


This, plus the new screen shots, has greatly increased my wanting to play this game. Im glad I asked this question.

This system sounds perfect to me.


My thanks to Ara, the devs, and warcry. Great interviews, great info. Keep up the great work.

[Darkrouge101]

I think it would be awesome to be able to destroy buildings with more options based on what kind it is (wood, stone, etc). For instance, if a cheap house has a straw or wood plank roof, then we should be able to light it afire :D

[Doffeh]

I hope there will be a differance between rain and pouring down. Also, I got the impression of that ork's face to be very basic and un-customizable! =O And well, thats not very dark either, for night to be..

[Phooey]

Yay for updates. :p

Thanks again WarCry!

[Shadow Walker2020]

I think it would be awesome to be able to destroy buildings with more options based on what kind it is (wood, stone, etc). For instance, if a cheap house has a straw or wood plank roof, then we should be able to light it afire :D


It leaves too much room for abuse of the system. Seige engine only housing destruction is balanced and still allows for destrction to take place without having the destruction run rampant.

[BLACKWATCH]

Hugo']Not bad info, Blackwatch is gonna love the Mahirim <3

Been loveing them, They love me there main antagonist.... :)
(ye gads, Ive been typecast....)

[Darkrouge101]

It leaves too much room for abuse of the system. Seige engine only housing destruction is balanced and still allows for destrction to take place without having the destruction run rampant.

Well maybe the seige engines can just set the buildings on fire. I just want to see fire! :D

[Shadow Walker2020]

Well maybe the seige engines can just set the buildings on fire. I just want to see fire! :D


I doubt it. Housing destruction is going to be hard, as it should be.

[BLACKWATCH]

The fact that Mahirim don't have their own racial mount, but aren't banned from using other races' mounts is an example of sound thinking by the Devs as far as I'm concerned. Reaffirms my faith in their ability.

Great Q&A this week.


I love it, as when the other races are dismounted, and there mounts run away or are killed by the Mahirim, there Up creek with out a paddle.. Dead..
Yet the Mighty Mahirm can steal there mounts or just Run our selfs..

So run up, lunge attack knocking them off there mount, jump on mount run off,
leaving a Dworf 300miles out in Ten-buck-too ....

Just got to love the Mahirim :)

[Darkrouge101]

I love it, as when the other races are dismounted, and there mounts run away or are killed by the Mahirim, there Up creek with out a paddle.. Dead..
Yet the Mighty Mahirm can steal there mounts or just Run our selfs..

So run up, lunge attack knocking them off there mount, jump on mount run off,
leaving a Dworf 300miles out in Ten-buck-too ....

Just got to love the Mahirim :)

Now that's just evil. I love it ;)

[kehmesis]

Worthy questions. Thanks!

EDIT: I wonder what the downside is to the marihim. Free mounts? At first they were supposed to be faster on foot, but slower than mounts.

[Shadow Walker2020]

I love it, as when the other races are dismounted, and there mounts run away or are killed by the Mahirim, there Up creek with out a paddle.. Dead..
Yet the Mighty Mahirm can steal there mounts or just Run our selfs..

So run up, lunge attack knocking them off there mount, jump on mount run off,
leaving a Dworf 300miles out in Ten-buck-too ....

Just got to love the Mahirim :)


You make it sound as if the other races cant defend themselves. If anything, the mahirim, while charging on all fours, will be more vulnerable to attack as they cannot parry or defend against incoming projectiles and spells and possbily melee attack.

[Shadow Walker2020]

Worthy questions. Thanks!

EDIT: I wonder what the downside is to the marihim. Free mounts? At first they were supposed to be faster on foot, but slower than mounts.


Their disadvantage will probably be that they cannot wear havy armor and run on all fours. They will have to sacrifice defence for speed.

[FraBaktos]

Great info, thanks devs and DF warcry.

[BLACKWATCH]

Worthy questions. Thanks!

EDIT: I wonder what the downside is to the marihim. Free mounts? At first they were supposed to be faster on foot, but slower than mounts.


Our sprint mode attack is weaker then a normal attack, Unless we get on your mount, then we switch to reg power. :)

[BLACKWATCH]

You make it sound as if the other races cant defend themselves. If anything, the mahirim, while charging on all fours, will be more vulnerable to attack as they cannot parry or defend against incoming projectiles and spells and possbily melee attack.


Sigh, Think out of the Box..
Limited Vision, you cant see what is to the side or behind you ,,, Normal ambush tactics...

So now think of a pack of Mahirim, and we attack from the side , knocking most the mounted off there rides, sure some will survive, but we will jump on and ride off, leaving the mounts in a safe spot, RUN back at Mahirim speed, and renter the battle with Unmounted races... (or just ride there mounts back at them)..

Mahirim , just feeling the love! :)

[Shadow Walker2020]

Sigh, Think out of the Box..
Limited Vision, you cant see what is to the side or behind you ,,, Normal ambush tactics...

So now think of a pack of Mahirim, and we attack from the side , knocking most the mounted off there rides, sure some will survive, but we will jump on and ride off, leaving the mounts in a safe spot, RUN back at Mahirim speed, and renter the battle with Unmounted races... (or just ride there mounts back at them)..

Mahirim , just feeling the love! :)

Easier said than done. What do you think, the mounted warriors will just stand there wating for you to knock them off their mounts? They will be ready for you and will be in defensive positions preparing for the attack. Also, they will be moving just as fast as you while on their mounts and will be attacking at full strength while mounted. And, mahirim probably wont be able to wear heavy armor and run on all fours and, therefore, the mahirim will be less protected by armor and more vulnerable to attack.

[Darkrouge101]

Easier said than done. What do you think, the mounted warriors will just stand there wating for you to knock them off their mounts? They will be ready for you and will be in defensive positions preparing for the attack. Also, they will be moving just as fast as you while on their mounts and will be attacking at full strength while mounted. And, mahirim probably wont be able to wear heavy armor and run on all fours and, therefore, the mahirim will be less protected by armor and more vulnerable to attack.

Maybe you missed the "ambush" part. Those lazy dwarves will be so tired of a long journey that they won't be ready/expecting an attack :D

[Krogan]

Now i just want to know some detail of what the disadvantages of the mahirim are. Much less spots to put armor? unable to do advanced magic? unable to build walls? unable to bulldships? what will balance their advantages up?

[BLACKWATCH]

am i missing something...where are the pictures or has my ad blocker blocked the pics??

I had to turn off Zonealarm "Web bug" protection to get the pics to display, that raises alarms all over the place.. So I turned it back on. Ill skip the Pics at Warcry till there "sanitized..." or they post them in a different format...

[BLACKWATCH]

Now i just want to know some detail of what the disadvantages of the mahirim are. Much less spots to put armor? unable to do advanced magic? unable to build walls? unable to bulldships? what will balance their advantages up?

Not that it wil help ya, but, our paws are so large ( to open the tunacans) that we cant wield the Danty Alfar rat xbows and the Treehuggers Slim bows...
Well , we can but not well enuf to hit hardly anything ...

But we can wield massive Orc Ribbone bows and Heavyest of the Dworven Xbows.

Fear is our best friend, and we the Mahirim can sence it spreading like wildfire in the Lands of Darkfall and the Forum.... and we Laugf... :)
We are gathering...

[Lukeh]

Excellent screenshots. It was actually worth the week this time!

[NewRage]

EDIT: I wonder what the downside is to the marihim. Free mounts? At first they were supposed to be faster on foot, but slower than mounts.

Originally they said Mahirim couldn't use bows either, because of their claws... dunno if that is still in or not. Would be a pretty good way to cut down on kiting though.

I kinda wonder why he didn't just say what the mounts were. He got asked this week, and said he'll tell next week. Why not just answer now, is something going to change in the next 7 days?

[Spawl]

I would like to thank you for answering my left hand/right hand question. It does bring up more questions, but I guess it also leaves room for expansion after the game starts to make money.

[treefingers]

I would like to thank you for answering my left hand/right hand question. It does bring up more questions, but I guess it also leaves room for expansion after the game starts to make money.

very disappointing answer but im glad they didnt ignore it just cuz the answer wasnt wat everyone wanted to hear:sly:

[Darkrouge101]

very disappointing answer but im glad they didnt ignore it just cuz the answer wasnt wat everyone wanted to hear:sly:

Well adding left hand = more sprites/programming = more time before release. Perhaps they'll get it done in a patch, but they should focus on more important things to get the game released in due time :)

[nazual]

I could really care less about left handed models. I see no point in it adding to the excitement of the game :/ None the less, great update, I've been feeling like a fat kid in a candy store these past couple of months.

[mgardner]

Those rainy screenshots look great. I understood there was going to be weather, but this makes it look like there is really going to be WEATHER. (not the silly, limited pitter-patter static stuff that WOW came out with and made such a fuss over)

[Fluffier]

Im very pleased. Thanks to Warcry for making this happen.

[Apraxis]

Good news.. well, maybe it is time to ask some alfar questions.

Where are my sithras?

[kehmesis]

Our sprint mode attack is weaker then a normal attack, Unless we get on your mount, then we switch to reg power. :)

I fail to see the downside to this. You have the better of both worlds.

[reteep]

For the Germans: It's translated here already [URL="http://www.darkfallonline.eu/wochentliche-qa-teil-3/"]Darkfall w

[Atnas]

I just noticed that I have never seen that kind of armor before!

[|Avalanche]

Hey nice interwiev. What a prommise on the racial mounts ;)

[Satan]

8.5/10

[Sarusan]

I like the screenshots. Better update than week before ! But what im scared of is: "...and we're a small independent developer with limited resources ;)" . And something about "we are testing it still" . So looks like we wont have beta this year huh?

[G.Struepp]

nice update.

If the mahirim are able to use other racial mounts, are we able to use mahirim as mounts? :P

[Legolas]

Nice *curtsey*

[skullmage]

It is cool that next week they are going to tell us about the racial mounts. But what I really want to know is about the races themselves. I want to know their strengths and weaknesses, the things they are highly skilled and the things they suck at and their racial special abilities.

yes we all know dwarves are great at making weapons and armor and suck at magic but what about the rest of the races. I am sure that they know and after 5 years, alpha and most of internal beta that they are set (may need tweeking but that is what beta is for). I would just like to know more and I dont think that I am alone.

[Darkmatter]

I loved the screenshots. I noticed that the characters/mount don't count as a physical object in relation to the rain just yet - what I mean is that I don't see the rain impact/splash on them - thats just a minor detail of course, but I love that the rain can be so dense, and maybe even rougher and worse than shown on these pictures. Makes me think of the weather map and so forth. Just bring the weather on, and let it influence gameplay! :)

[bloodford]

Hey. Good Q&A there, very nice work.

Though I appreciate the infos, we received, the answers raised two questions for me:

Is there any note on whats happening with stuff that is stored within a house (e.g. armor, weapons, pink bunnies) ? Will it just be destroyed or can you just pick it up from the ashes of a house ?

What about the NPC Capitals ? Will I am be able to burn them to ashes too ? :D

Though I did not found anything in the older interviews about this, I might have just missed the info.

[boby]

so nice ;)

[Njordung]

Yes a really nice interview indeed, let

[Duni]

Yummy ..
Nice indeed .. Cant wait 'til next friday. hehe

[alperkunt]

i cant wait anymore! :) i ll be addictive to this game!

[Bazil]

A very good Q&A, thanks ara for asking such good questions. I hope you guys at warcry keep up with the interesting questions :).

And Blackwatch don't blow up with hapiness now, you still gotta try it all out in-game :D

[Nalira]

i was quite critical about last weeks Q&A... but great job on this one ara... the pictures were sweet too

[Skullz]

Great job on this one Ara and Warcry!!!
Every bit of new info makes me want it more and more. I am saving all my vacation time for the first chance i get to play :D

[Kietharr]

The disadvantage to the Mahrihm's speed and ability to move fast is offset by needing to use lighter armor, and no boots, gauntlets, or bows. Mahrihm are built to be first responders and gurellia warriors with little in the means of pure staying/siege power.

That is where Orks come in for our team, Mahrihm for speedy strikes, Orks for good ol' fashioned sieging and Ork dispensing.

My current biggest question is if Mahrihm will be able to fit in the Ork dispenser.

[huapua]

Beautiful...

[-Zephyr-]

DF is getting closer...

[BLACKWATCH]

A very good Q&A, thanks ara for asking such good questions. I hope you guys at warcry keep up with the interesting questions :).

And Blackwatch don't blow up with hapiness now, you still gotta try it all out in-game :D

Sorry Im not blinded by Fanboiism, where a question or two is making me PURR.
I see somany just a Purring over a question, that is some what answered, Pfft..

Where is a real update with indepth information, Hundreds of questions asked over the years, unanswered. Wheres the state of the game? Comunity deserves
a real meal not just crumbs.... If your happy with crumbs, so be it, Me, I want a full meal... Im not blinded by them... :)

[Malhavok]

Better than last week. The lack of specific information is dissapointing, but thats just how it is I guess.

[Ultimo]

well they let us see a little bit of the rain, and some of the information is stuff we didnt kno,

keep getting better every week, and good job so far!

[Metal Wolf]

Much better than the last few. Good to hear about the mahirim mount situation. I also like how it seems that you must have baricks or gaurd houses to be able to field gaurds inyour city.