Darkfall Slot Machines

[Ramjesty]

Some time ago, Claus gave the community a compact list of the features that will be introduced in the upcoming expansion, “Conquer the Seas”. Today, we will shed a bit more light on one of those features and specifically, new housing objects.

The item that we will present to you warranted its own spotlight thread because it’s not only a house decoration; it also introduces a new feature in the game. So without further ado we present the Darkfall Slot Machines!

These items of wonder and wealth come in 2 different types. Those 2 types will be differentiated by their betting amount. One of the coolest things about them is that there will be 2 global jack pots, one for each type of slot machine, that anyone playing will have a chance of winning.

They will be placed in your house like all the other objects, through deeds you find while adventuring. It will be possible to place them in all types of houses no matter their size and anyone can use them. This allows the home owner to leave his house open for random players to go in and use the slot machine, making village life more interesting.

So get your coins stacked and head out there for some slot machine action in Agon! This image of one of the slot machines should get you in the right mood, serving as an introduction of gambling in Darkfall!

[Swing]

Awesome!

[Naljeja]

what the

[Phoboss]

wohoo nice !

[]slade[]

wow, <3 it...
i want one...

[Swompen Starval]

cool!

[Sathyro]

Jackpot!

[sshhaaoo]

Would have been better if it was a game you could play with others.

Like poker houses in npc cities.

[BlueOreo]

You've got to be kidding...

Wow, just wow...

You're spending time and resources on this?

What a tremendous disappointment. :(

I had hope for the expansion... please don't kill it!

[Brother Justin]

lol! thats an awesome looking slot machine!

[lkx]

lolwut?? o_O

[Keno]

Thats pretty sweet!

[raffraff]

In Phantasy Star Universe (a shit game I played once) you could put a machine in your shop which let you put several items in it and people could pay a certain amount and get one of the items at random. So you put a really nice item in and a load of regular bits and pieces and visitors had a chance to get the nice item, but usually just got some crap. Worked pretty well and is more dynamic than this thing.

[lanigav]

This is freaking cool!!!!!! I would love to see multiplayer games as well, but it would be very important that they not be susceptible to cheating via ventrillo and such. This is a great start!

I want a plain old random number generator that puts a unique message in public or something to this effect, plenty can be done in the way of gambling with this alone.

[Rigan Pere]

haha now thats a house item I would go out my way to buy!

Cool stuff.

[lkx]

ok... i've got it... are you kidding me? o_O
Seriously... i'm glad for introducing gambling but... slot machines??? in houses?? o_O'''

[Walking Target]

Oh noes...gambling has been my downfall in almost every game I

[w0rm]

Wow, this is awesome.

Thumbs up!

[Fugean]

looks cool and all, but how many days(weeks?) is this going to push back the release of the expansion? just wondering if it will be out before feb of next year.....

[Caaahl]

lol, and i thought the guy in vent was joking.... its true! :lmao:

[Corpsepoker]

You've got to be kidding...

Wow, just wow...

You're spending time and resources on this?

What a tremendous disappointment. :(

I had hope for the expansion... please don't kill it!

Are you serious ?

Please quit darkfall dude.

[Walking Target]

...have played that has it.

Lousy fat fingers. I can haz edit button? :(

[Drago Palmas]

I want a plain old random number generator that puts a unique message in public or something to this effect, plenty can be done in the way of gambling with this alone.

Yeah, I have no opinion on the slot machine but a dice roll would be great.

[gold]

haha, once again looking interesting.


Cant wait to actually get to play instead of grinding/macroing to catch up to ppl with 450 hps ;)

[Solvito]

Really?

[morde]

Maybe a slot prize could be the attribute consumables that were left out of the 1st expansion.

Play slots all day to get a +20 Vit consumable.

[MortalZero]

no no no, put things in game give us incentive to go out on Agon and play not make us addicted to gambling games.

[Sarphus]

Awesome.

Now you just need poker tournaments where the portion of the proceeds that goes to the "casino" is just removed from the game economy.

[nacitar sevaht]

Completely stupid.

Adding games where players bet their own money is one thing; adding an arbitrary source of luck where players can just randomly get a shitload of magically created money for doing nothing, however, is just stupi... oh wait..! nvm, chaos chests.

Lame.

Adding something like poker vs players is cool, adding slot machines is not.

[GRCPan]

Not bad.
But it's 3 days before the mid of november ends and the end of november starts and we still have no word on the expansion coming.

[nacitar sevaht]

Completely stupid.

Adding games where players bet their own money is one thing; adding an arbitrary source of luck where players can just randomly get a shitload of magically created money for doing nothing, however, is just stupi... oh wait..! nvm, chaos chests.

Lame.

Adding something like poker vs players is cool, adding slot machines is not.

Wanted to add, that though it's extremely stupid and lame, that's one badass looking slot machine.

[Mightimus]

ahahahaahah LOL, i want my casino

[topgun]

always the cynic nacitar...

at least it has some arbitrary PVP value

[ISVRaDa]

We want too table games like in UO :)

[dracoz]

cool lol

WTB keep whit slot machine :ohno:

[BAKehT]

Gambling is bad... Darkfall is bad for promoting it. Shame on you.

[Torinar]

Pure awesomness :).

[KeyserSoze]

Why the * are you spending time on making useless things like this? Have anyone asked for it?? Are you trying to make us gambling addicts aswell as gaming addicts?

Seriously, spend your time on something usefull ffs

[Drathe]

WTT Chaos Station for Slot machine!

[Slaker]

Now I want my own house!

[Torinar]

Why the * are you spending time on making useless things like this? Have anyone asked for it?? Are you trying to make us gambling addicts aswell as gaming addicts?

Seriously, spend your time on something usefull ffs

I'll answer to this guy, but please everyone read my post before replying like this.

Everything they add to the game is good. More fluff = more content = more fun = win

If you want them to only fix some things here and there, good for you, but I also want more content.

So, again, thank you Aventurine and keep up the good work.

[thedrumchannell]

This is by far the most awesome looking slot machine I have ever seen! PERIOD!

To the trolls that say AV is wasting time on useless features... REMEMBER this is an expansion:

They are also improving sea combat and revamping the siege mechanics, PvP balance, PvE improvements, hunting etc. AV is just going out of their way to give the players a total package AAA experience.

> and now they are advertising, creating community contests and throwing live events?

They seem to improving Darkfall from ALL angles. :)

[Squeegee]

I have to admit that it would be cooler to see a release date for the expansion instead of seeing all the stuff we will get to use when the expansion comes out.......just sayin

[Bloodgloom]

Lame idea and a waste of resources.

This is the best form of gambling you could come up with for Darkfall? Did your creative director get drunk in Vegas and lose a bet to a stripper or something?

Gambling is a game, Darkfall is a (usually better) game. Darkfall inherently has a gambling system built into it. You constantly gamble the gear you bring out when you go looking for a fight or the loot you've farmed against the chance that someone stronger than you will kill you and take your things, on the other hand you gamble against the opportunity to loot theirs and the hope that whatever they are carrying will be better than what you have.

Slot machines in houses? Whats next, the Darkfall card game? Oh please. Thanks for implementing digital turds into player housing.

Want a better idea for gambling? How about an "arena" where you pay an entry fee and then are instanced into a fight against a randomly spawned monster that could be anything from a goblin to a Dark Dragon. Win and get paid, lose and lose your loot and entry fee. Stage the entry fee based on the difficulty of mob (or mobs) you might encounter and make the arena the type of place where a player cant easily exploit the objects and/or AI.

Overall I gotta say, what a terrible idea and what poor implementation to boot.

[Lexxer]

If they want "villages" to be community build fluff spots (gambling, vendors, banking) they should NOT have made them into PVP hotspots with the village control system.

I can see it now.. leave your door open so some poor schlep goes in to use your slot machine....shut door and lock him inside so he has to either bindstone, log off or die.

gg.

[Zephon Dark]

haha, nice! I still think my "poker tabel for your house" idea was better... hope they'll add that later! :ninja:

[Ruyn]

I can just see it now. Some random guy wins a jackpot and a global message informs the server and this guy shows up on everyone's map and it is a serverwide manhunt for this guy.

[morde]

If they want "villages" to be community build fluff spots (gambling, vendors, banking) they should NOT have made them into PVP hotspots with the village control system.

I can see it now.. leave your door open so some poor schlep goes in to use your slot machine....shut door and lock him inside so he has to either bindstone, log off or die.

gg.

or shoot down door with MM.

[djpostman1]

I can just see it now. Some random guy wins a jackpot and a global message informs the server and this guy shows up on everyone's map and it is a serverwide manhunt for this guy.

haha that would be awesome

[Azdul]

Gambling is bad... Darkfall is bad for promoting it. Shame on you.

Then promote moral values in DF by killing everyone who comes to village to gamble !

Protecting poor little goblins from merciless newbies is not fashionable anymore ...

[Neilk]

This will create a pvp hotspot for the very first few slot machines everyone running to see it xD

[samureyed]

Cool feature, its good to see player housing improving with more add-ons

[Captain Kirk]

lol! thats an awesome looking slot machine!

It looks evil, it should kill you if you run out of money! :D

[bobii]

what the hell...

EXPANSION ALRDY PLZ

[amah]

what the hell...

EXPANSION ALRDY PLZ

for the win . we grow tired already

[melipone]

Its just a good way to get gold out of the economy

[saz]

very nice indeed... ETA?

[melipone]

Just want to add (can't edit). DF's art team probably don't really get enough credit as theres so much other stuff to concentrate on (game balance etc). Looks good and DF definitely could do with more fluff like this

[Fugean]

If they want "villages" to be community build fluff spots (gambling, vendors, banking) they should NOT have made them into PVP hotspots with the village control system.

I can see it now.. leave your door open so some poor schlep goes in to use your slot machine....shut door and lock him inside so he has to either bindstone, log off or die.

gg.

or break down the door... dumbass

[Taylor999]

wtf , seriously ? . of all the things, slot machines ? . my days

[Finnad Atmoor]

Great idea, kudos

[Fugean]

Looks like quite a few people here agree with me, or i agree with them w/e...

ETA please...

and for the love of god please dont add anything new to the expansion that will set it back further... just introduce it in a later expansion... its bee a month and a half since the expantion was first stated to be ready...now it is past "the middle of november". give us a solid date already, and stick too it... or are you too afriad of people un subbing untill its released a few months from now?

[melipone]

I predict next Tuesday for release at 20:00 GMT

[peertje]

awesome! love the looks of it!

[Zaffax]

Now that's something I want in my house.

[Gray Fox]

WHAT THE FUCK!?
AVENTURINE WAS GOING THE RIGHT WAY! And now THIS!? :bang::lmao:
Honestly should I laugh or cry? Even worse is that they suposedly think this:

"This allows the home owner to leave his house open for random players to go in and use the slot machine, making village life more interesting.".

Is this the best idea they come up with to improve village life!? It is a slot machine with darkfall design. The game is going more wowish now. Everyone can flame me I dont care, this idea is feeble and retarded.

[Fugean]

yeah...

[Banok]

yeah slot machines and "gnomes" does have a wow-ish childish feel which contrasts to the majority of the existing darkfall astmosphere and feel and general realism/immersion. there are aspects like it already in the game *cough* air gitar *cough* but still...

[Signus]

Would have been better if it was a game you could play with others.

Like poker houses in npc cities.

I doubt this is the end of gambling in Darkfall

[Gray Fox]

Yeah, I have no opinion on the slot machine but a dice roll would be great.

Fucking exactly, dam im pissed.

[Altheas]

Although I appreciate many of the new features coming in the next expansion...
Double jump!?.. Gnome shops!?... And now Death Slot Machines!!? Seriously...

[thedrumchannell]

Fucking exactly, dam im pissed.

OH NOES, they are adding fluff on top of an EPIC game expansion. :ohno:

[Chuck Zitto]

Damn it now I want a slot machine for my keep with extra bindslot thingy :bang:

[dark-M]

nice

[sharpkris]

now along with our gaming addiction we will have gambling addiction.....WAY TO GO AVENTURINE !

[Urme the Legend]

I like the idea!

- "Do you want to come and PvP?"
- "Sorry I lost all my cash on the slot machine, need to grind some cash on mobs, so I can win my money back."

But gambling on other peoples slot machines won't happen :P

[Shrang]

I'm more wanting player interactive board/card/dice games, but this is a start in the right direction.

[Keflon]

So fucking stupid. You took Darkfall, a great game, and ruined it over time. Now you are adding stupid useless shit like this?

When is trammel coming out?

Fucking retarded.

[kazamx]

This is fantastic.

One of the biggest complaints about villages was they were empty and served no purpose other than giving a few people a place to put stuff and an extra bindspot. AV clearly have taken this to heart and decided to try and make villages a hub for lots of people

player vendors - We will now have a steady stream of people shopping in villages and people supplying their vendors
Slot machines - Plenty of people hanging out with money playing the slots.
'Keeps' Small guilds will now be living full time in villages

All these extra people living in villages or hanging out there will make life very interesting for random groups of people out to cap villages for the gold. no longer will they be entering empty villages. They will either need to fight through all the locals or to be very careful to not cause trouble and hope they can cap the stone and get out.

Villages just became important.

[DeManiac]

Once again, people don't realize that the staff doing this and that are not the same, yes darkfall development team is small, but not that small.

There are always time to kill in a development process, who knows? maybe this group was working on something different say vendor shops before, and now when they finished, they had time to kill before the expansion would be released.

Without further delay they start on the next thing that has been asked for in these forums, might not be exactly the way people described it with card games and such, but it's still fluff, and fluff is what you can do when you don't feel like doing the usual.

For example in wow, there is this "carebearish" carnival darkmoon, where you can play a tank game vs others, get random buffs, hand in allot of minor quests and other stuff, it's fluff paradise, how about a cannon that don't do anything other then add magical wings on your back that you shall remove at the right time?

All I'm saying is, if you think this delay the expansion your probably wrong, mostly due to the fact there are still things they haven't fixed yet(or they would release it already ) it's a shame, but some things take longer time then expected, as always.
For them not writing an eta, maybe they have no clue about exactly when it should be done, and don't wan to disappoint that the guy that made the original siege mechanic is a whole other guy that's working on it now, and thus have no clue what the hell he is doing, thus it takes shit loads of time.

Meanwhile if they add "useless" things that you might only use once or twice, but the time investment for them have been less then 30 minutes to make one, well then who cares?
There might be people that have have luck with one of em and get a whole bunch of gold, it's the randomness that gives the thrill.

If this one is a success, the chance for this "team" that made this item, to be asked to make more, could be high, and all of a sudden we have allot of fluff in a game that before, had none.
Random clothing that's totally useless, but requires allot of materials to make, thus have high price, white silk dress..... very low durability :)

[Signus]

So fucking stupid. You took Darkfall, a great game, and ruined it over time. Now you are adding stupid useless shit like this?

When is trammel coming out?

Fucking retarded.

uhh...what? They've made the game WORSE by patching it? This is news to me. Fluff is not useless, it's what keeps people playing, and keeps this different from a quake server

[rekker]

So fucking stupid. You took Darkfall, a great game, and ruined it over time. Now you are adding stupid useless shit like this?

When is trammel coming out?

Fucking retarded.

Overreaction much?

[Akatsuki#1]

So fucking stupid. You took Darkfall, a great game, and ruined it over time. Now you are adding stupid useless shit like this?

When is trammel coming out?

Fucking retarded.

Chill out, this wouldn't have taken much time at all to do. Adding extra stuff like this doesn't do any harm, if you don't like it you certainly don't have to use it. It doesn't effect PvP so what is there to complain about?

[thedrumchannell]

So fucking stupid. You took Darkfall, a great game, and ruined it over time. Now you are adding stupid useless shit like this?

When is trammel coming out?

Fucking retarded.

Your response is lame, and your attitude is childish! You want Counter Strike? then go play Counter Strike! :idea:

[Dragoon]

Not a bad idea but you should also add interactive multiplayer games like poker, blackjack, etc. Either way the more cool stuff in houses and villages the better off the game will be.

On another note this thread is a bit disturbing. If you're still doing "spotlight" threads on minor features it kind of gives off the impression that the expansion is still quite a ways off.

[chaOxz]

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Expansion ETA?

[saz]

Expansion ETA?

chaOxz stop spamming! everyone wants to know when the expansion is coming out! so let it go already!

btw, expansion ETA?

[Tedium]

Awesome! Are we going to get jukeboxes as well?

WTB UO elevator music for my npc vendor shop.

[Tiak]

Completely stupid.

Adding games where players bet their own money is one thing; adding an arbitrary source of luck where players can just randomly get a shitload of magically created money for doing nothing, however, is just stupi... oh wait..! nvm, chaos chests.

Lame.

Adding something like poker vs players is cool, adding slot machines is not.

More likely it will magically destroy more money than it will create. People actually have to bet their own cash, and on average will probably lose money on the payouts... So the money won't really be magically created, as other people will always be losing more money than you are getting.

It really doesn't seem to be worth it to take a bunch of money to a village to play its slots unless you're the owner of the house with the machine in it when you have a good chance of a larger group hearing the slot machine and killing you.

[Lord Jenicus]

Awesome concept.

The random luck of Joe Blow who wins an ungodly sum of money becomes offset by the fact that he's wandering around an un-towered village with a ton of gold, which he will have to haul back to the closest bank.

BTW: I doubt a slot machine is going to set-back the Expansion any, I've coded a slot machine program in 30 minutes before and it worked just fine, and by the look of the picture, they already have the model/texture made so... Feature Complete :P

[Keflon]

uhh...what? They've made the game WORSE by patching it? This is news to me. Fluff is not useless, it's what keeps people playing, and keeps this different from a quake server

When you patch for things that are unneeded and completely ignore the current problems, yes it gets worse. This is worthless fluff.

[Horlog]

its a joke ? you spent time on this ?

[Lord Jenicus]

When you patch for things that are unneeded and completely ignore the current problems, yes it gets worse. This is worthless fluff.

Your opinion only reflects yourself I'm afraid. They can rebalance and tweak things like combat balance all day if they want, but ultimately it's not going to make me want to explore the world any more or interact more with others. It's things like this that separate Darkfall from some Fantasy Mod for a FPS.

[Colopatrion]

Just give me a release date please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!PLEASE!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:bang:

[Evaner]

Oh boy this is bad, I can see my money pool going down alredy :(

Good job Aventurine for the effort you're putting into this, impressive really ;)

[Fugean]

Awesome concept.

The random luck of Joe Blow who wins an ungodly sum of money becomes offset by the fact that he's wandering around an un-towered village with a ton of gold, which he will have to haul back to the closest bank.

BTW: I doubt a slot machine is going to set-back the Expansion any, I've coded a slot machine program in 30 minutes before and it worked just fine, and by the look of the picture, they already have the model/texture made so... Feature Complete :P

well thats good news, what happens when they play test it and it gives some random effect because it doesnt work well with the coding of the game? create a new exploit? delay expansion while trying to fix this brand new bug/exploit?

[jagor]

good job! The slot machine design is awesome!

[johnnyc3po]

What a joke, please don't make posts about such a waste of time. Leave the cool in game games to 3drealms and Duke Nukem 3d.

Why don't you spend time fixing combat instead?

[Adam1902]

Really cool!
You could make more games, multiplayer ones, Chess, Poker, etc. Have it where you can bet gold aswell. Houses could be kinda like mini-game rooms. :)

Don't put too much resources into it though. ;)

[Tengil]

Ha ha ha

Clearly the AV Dev team do not have the whip of streamlined product planning over their heads. Do you need one more programmer?

If you guys are allowed to do stuff like this, I want to work with you.

[dbmk]

Am I the only one finding this a bit out of style? A tad immersion breaking?

If indeed it is serious, and not just some modeller that was mucking about in his spare time and decided it would be a nice joke to pull on the forum.

[johnnyc3po]

Oh boy this is bad, I can see my money pool going down alredy :(

Good job Aventurine for the effort you're putting into this, impressive really ;)


I seriously hope you are being sarcastic.

[neon sheild]

Jackpot!

i agree! this is awesome!

[samureyed]

You DO all realize this is just a tiny part of the huge expansion. You're all complaining about them not spending time fixing what is needed, when we all know they are doing just that. Did everyone forget about the notes regarding sea combat, sieges, melee, wilderness, crafting gains, vendors, etc etc etc etc.

or maybe im just a sucker for gambling in MMO's

[BlueOreo]

C
Adding games where players bet their own money is one thing; adding an arbitrary source of luck where players can just randomly get a shitload of magically created money for doing nothing, however, is just stupi... oh wait..! nvm, chaos chests.
Adding something like poker vs players is cool, adding slot machines is not.

This poster is exactly right. You could have introduced a tool that improved the already lacking social aspect of Darkfall, such as a poker or card table that allowed other players to interact outside of PvP in game.


Everything they add to the game is good. More fluff = more content = more fun = win

Negative. This kind of a feature is a waste of time. It encourages solo play and takes away from the social possibility of a village. People will now macro at slot machines, etc. The game needs alternatives to PvP, such as UO's taverns, etc. It needs other ways for players to create their own content. If the developers would give them even modest tools, such as a dice roll function, then the players could do a lot with it. Slot machines that don't require any social interaction in game are not the answer.

[stingerII]

i wont comment on the feature except to say that visually it looks cool ;)

[BlueOreo]

Are you serious ?

Please quit darkfall dude.

Because this game needs fewer players. Come on man, open your eyes and cease the pathetic retorts.

[ninogan]

Haha, oh wow.

[Tengil]

People will now macro at slot machines, etc.

I HOPE that AV have learned from past misstakes and will code a max number of gold per RL week any single player can get from slot machines.

Because there will be flaws and exploit angles, and there will be players using them - lets not give more massive gold rewards to the cheaters please.

[Tengil]

It was regardless, way maxed out cool.

[aenimka]

You've got to be kidding...

Wow, just wow...

You're spending time and resources on this?

What a tremendous disappointment. :(

I had hope for the expansion... please don't kill it!


rofl so tru:D

[Tibernicus]

I HOPE that AV have learned from past misstakes and will code a max number of gold per RL week any single player can get from slot machines.

Because there will be flaws and exploit angles, and there will be players using them - lets not give more massive gold rewards to the cheaters please.

How can someone exploit a random number generator?

[Tibernicus]

Negative. This kind of a feature is a waste of time. It encourages solo play and takes away from the social possibility of a village. People will now macro at slot machines, etc.

Or, people will hang out at villages, using the finite number of slot machines? How will someone MACRO a random number generator/gambling device? That's not practical at all. And once they have their money, they have to get it to a bank, yes? More PvP. Really, anyone seeing this as a bad thing you rethink their lives.

[BigCountry]

wtf is your player base 80+ years old? lol

Why not 5 card Texas Hold'em or something?

Who the hell under the age of 80 plays slots in a casino?

[kazamx]

How can someone exploit a random number generator?

People seem to think they get free money from this thing. AV will set it up like a real slot machine.

90% payout or something like that. 10% of the money put in will vanish the other 90% will be given out in prizes. If you stand and macro the machine you will lose over the long term just like you will lose in any casino over the long term.

[SGT Bogie]

fuck slots, lets get some Texas Hold Em goin... otherwise, who cares?

[Lumanil]

looks cool and all, but how many days(weeks?) is this going to push back the release of the expansion? just wondering if it will be out before feb of next year.....

Its definitly coming out right after the release of Duke Nukem Forever !

[thedrumchannell]

Slot machines and Texas Hold Em' FTW

[Lumanil]

Looks like quite a few people here agree with me, or i agree with them w/e...

ETA please...

and for the love of god please dont add anything new to the expansion that will set it back further... just introduce it in a later expansion... its bee a month and a half since the expantion was first stated to be ready...now it is past "the middle of november". give us a solid date already, and stick too it... or are you too afriad of people un subbing untill its released a few months from now?

Sorry to say this, but it is still middle of november and not past that.
Mid of november goes from 10th-20th of november.

Apart from that i also want to get the expansion or even get a new date.

[Elmi]

They will be placed in your house like all the other objects, through deeds you find while adventuring.

That's cool, but will deed drop chance be increased? It's a fuckin boring pain to farm house addons ...

[Black Horseman]

I wonder what other gimmicks they're going to try to get people to resub.

[BlueOreo]

How can someone exploit a random number generator?

If my very weak understanding of random numbers is correct, then I don't think a computer can just pick one. It has to come from somewhere, whether it be some permutation of a time reading or something. There's your answer.

Or, people will hang out at villages, using the finite number of slot machines? How will someone MACRO a random number generator/gambling device? That's not practical at all. And once they have their money, they have to get it to a bank, yes? More PvP.

If they don't macro it, then they're just sitting there alone... not interacting with the world or contributing to player driven content.

Really, anyone seeing this as a bad thing you rethink their lives.

Really? Christ, I thought the subscriber forum change would help improve these forums, but we still have random yahoos stopping by to post this crap.

[Deviruchi]

i dont want ppl to come in my house and gamble, and then tap my tree and herb garden on the way out!

[Tenebrion]

I hugely support this new addition ; fluff like this is exactly what Darkfall needs.

[xtreme]

Just awesome

[Solron]

this is absolutely terrible. a dumb, fluff, no content idea that is used as another gold sink. how about fixing all the known problems? this sounds like a way to get stupid people to keep playing like real slot machines or the lottery.

[Strife]

You've got to be kidding...

Wow, just wow...

You're spending time and resources on this?

What a tremendous disappointment. :(

I had hope for the expansion... please don't kill it!

This. Cool looking slot machine, but IMO a complete waste of time.

[fabe]

You are spending time on making this?!

Epic Fail AV...

[Tenebrion]

I find it a bit dissapointing that so many people are so short-sighted as to not see the value of adding more social content to Darkfall. The more nick-nacks and random shit there is to do, the more people will stay enteretained.

Ultima Online had dice, chess, checkers, player-run gambling, and a whole host of other features that kept people immersed in the game. I see no reason to not try to add things like those to Darkfall.

[Chefen]

First reaction : is this a friggin troll ?!

Second reaction : *watching screenshot* *Dr000L* I'm getting ready to spend some money :O

[BlueOreo]

I find it a bit dissapointing that so many people are so short-sighted as to not see the value of adding more social content to Darkfall. The more nick-nacks and random shit there is to do, the more people will stay enteretained.

Ultima Online had dice, chess, checkers, player-run gambling, and a whole host of other features that kept people immersed in the game. I see no reason to not try to add things like those to Darkfall.

I don't see a problem with social content. In fact, I'd say it's one of the most important areas that they need to work on. The community needs more in game tools to create content. A feature like this, which only encourages solo gameplay, is silly though, and it breaks the immersion of a fantasy game as well. They could have easily implemented any of your above suggestions, which would have added social content (meaning multiple players must interact in a meaningful way), but instead we're getting slot machines? Ugh.

Nick-nacks are great, but let's make them nick-nacks that require people to play together. This game already has too much of an emphasis on solo play. There's no real rewards for group play.

[Emolas]

I don't see a problem with social content. In fact, I'd say it's one of the most important areas that they need to work on. The community needs more in game tools to create content. A feature like this, which only encourages solo gameplay, is silly though, and it breaks the immersion of a fantasy game as well. They could have easily implemented any of your above suggestions, which would have added social content (meaning multiple players must interact in a meaningful way), but instead we're getting slot machines? Ugh.

Nick-nacks are great, but let's make them nick-nacks that require people to play together. This game already has too much of an emphasis on solo play. There's no real rewards for group play.

Are you actually saying that playing darkfall solo is more viable than with a clan? Really?

[RelentlesCoward]

You've got to be kidding...

Wow, just wow...

You're spending time and resources on this?

What a tremendous disappointment. :(

I had hope for the expansion... please don't kill it!

Wow! Just wow!
Another expert in project management that is actually playing another game and NOT producing their own...
What a disappointment. :p

[RelentlesCoward]

Aventurine probably makes plans to offer some micro community features which if they do it right and their vision is successful it can give life to lots of spots on the map where diversity might exist and other players can visit and explore. Affecting the economy, player behavior, politics etc etc.

I think they might have more aces in their sleeve than we might think!
If yes then the best is yet to come! Only reason they could be keeping their plans secret might be because we might be in for a big surprise or several of them each expansion comes!
At least I hope so!

Forcing player interaction with other players and slot machines, i don't see the point in this but they can invent or apply a method where players can interact with other players across the map through similar features.
I hope they can deliver what EVE online never had the brains to deliver at the first place (yet they used to promise a lot)

[Jango1337]

awesome

[Beowulf Wagner]

Not really my kind a thing but good to see some sneek peaks

[RelentlesCoward]

looks cool and all, but how many days(weeks?) is this going to push back the release of the expansion? just wondering if it will be out before feb of next year.....

Lets see now...
Thinking to himself : Codding a slot machine should take ..30 minutes..making applying the textures...UV map done right.. err 1 hour or so.

It's going to take a year probably...can I have your stuff? :p

[RelentlesCoward]

In Phantasy Star Universe (a shit game I played once) you could put a machine in your shop which let you put several items in it and people could pay a certain amount and get one of the items at random. So you put a really nice item in and a load of regular bits and pieces and visitors had a chance to get the nice item, but usually just got some crap. Worked pretty well and is more dynamic than this thing.


Sorry for the many posts people but I read the thread backwards.

Let them add this feature: Players make it so their machines drop rare items! I love you! :p Awesome suggestion!

[dbmk]

Lets see now...
Thinking to himself : Codding a slot machine should take ..30 minutes..making applying the textures...UV map done right.. err 1 hour or so.

It's going to take a year probably...can I have your stuff? :p

Lol. Nothing takes only 30 minutes in development.

Deploying to test alone will eat up that much.

[blob]

just put some badass sound to it when ppl use it so we can hear it far away :p

[BlueOreo]

Are you actually saying that playing darkfall solo is more viable than with a clan? Really?

Where'd I say that?

Talking about this?
This game already has too much of an emphasis on solo play. There's no real rewards for group play.

I should have specified. In PvE, it's not worth it to play as a group. Most of the time, killing monsters on your own is more effective because you don't have to split the loot with anyone, and there are no larger objectives that are worthwhile and require a group. No, the fire dragon doesn't count, because I said worthwhile. Yes, a lot of spawns are worth it if you team up with another person so you can trade rapid shots. I'm not denying that, but that's still not group PvE.

Of course you need a guild to succeed in Darkfall. But why do you need a guild? They teach you about the game. They show you macro spots (where you don't even play the game, or you play it alone or unattended). They give you someone to macro off (once again, removing you from actually playing the game). They provide teammates for backing you up in PvP. Darkfall, in its current implementation, is limited to PvP, PvE, crafting, and exploring. Exploring is solo play. Crafting is solo play. PvE is solo play. That leaves PvP. Hell, these days I even like PvPing alone. That's unimportant though. The point is that there needs to be another layer of gameplay outside of PvP that requires group play or social interaction. Slot machines aren't the answer. Dice, card games, or any kind of multiplayer game are.

Over the last three days, I've spent more time in game playing around with my guildmates trying to see who can get to the top of the tall trees in the hamlet we live in. We've made a game out of nothing. Imagine what the player base could do if given even the most modest tools!

That's why I'm hoping slot machines will be accompanied by some of Tenebrion's suggestions, and that they'll allow player run vendors to give out quests (at the very least).

[Tenebrion]

AV needs to give us a collectable card game!

Clearly Darkfall's Magic The Gathering / Pox Nora is the answer.

[f4rsight]

AV needs to give us a collectable card game!

Clearly Darkfall's Magic The Gathering / Pox Nora is the answer.

Hahah and cards drop from chaos chests right ?

[JCatano]

Neat and all, but I'm going to pull the level on that slot machine and hope to win news on the expansion.

Or... Maybe we can start trolling tweets from your developers and start speculation threads...?

Fixed a few bugs and added some stuff for the Darkfall expansion. Now time for sleep. #code_code_code #darkfall
about 24 hours ago from TweetDeck

[JCatano]

Neat and all, but I'm going to pull the lever on that slot machine and hope to win news on the expansion.

Or... Maybe we can start trolling tweets from your developers and start speculation threads...?

Fixed a few bugs and added some stuff for the Darkfall expansion. Now time for sleep. #code_code_code #darkfall
about 24 hours ago from TweetDeck

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[Nocturne]

This is stupid.

[Yakamoz]

This is stupid.
This, scrap slot machines and warhulks in one go. I think somebody does understand what immersion is.

[Bored]

Completely stupid.

Adding games where players bet their own money is one thing; adding an arbitrary source of luck where players can just randomly get a shitload of magically created money for doing nothing, however, is just stupi... oh wait..! nvm, chaos chests.

Lame.

Adding something like poker vs players is cool, adding slot machines is not.
Chaos chests may be random and reward people randomly, but that's the fun. It's just enjoyable to be riding along and spot three chaos chests in a row, or to simply race with your clan mates to try and nab the chaos chest you all spotted. Sure they may be random and don't reward skill bet they are a FUN feature.

Also to those of you complaining that the devs are "wasting" time on this I have two things to say. People have been begging for fluff like this since day 1 (and I'm not talking about release or beta). They may not seem like something that peaks your interest but it's something that a lot of players want. Secondly this is not something hard to do. It's honestly not like this is exactly a complicated feature.

1. Press 'f'
2. Take bet from bag
3. Roll random number
4. ????
5. Profit!!!

[dbmk]

This, scrap slot machines and warhulks in one go. I think somebody does understand what immersion is.

Thats the problem with this one, isn't it? Immersion breaking. Whats next? Fighter jets? Remote controlled cars? iDFPhones?

[Avan]

Sounds interesting. Hopefully it'll add a little more action to villages.

[Rezwarius]

that is so cool!

[Ivanhoe]

Just take it for what it is.
A tiny little addition of fluff/moneysink into the game.

A Nice addition.

Would you rather have no slotmachines in the game? Or slotmachines in the game?
I'll pick slots anyday of the week.

[dbmk]

Would you rather have no slotmachines in the game? Or slotmachines in the game?
I'll pick slots anyday of the week.

You really thinks it fits in this game world?

Honestly curious, because I don't quite subscribe to this "anything new is good" evaluation many seems to have.

No problem with the fluff or gambling aspect of it. I just think there are many ways to add that without it being as out of style as I see this as.

[Phalanx]

I suspect the goblin heads are not what you want to get on your roll.

[Caaahl]

I just think there are many ways to add that without it being as out of style as I see this as.

How can that be out of style while we have flying laser tanks aka warhulks!? :ninja:

[Yoda]

there better be some lore behind this gizmo!:bang:

[Metal Wolf]

Really?

[robthehand]

im a compulsive gambler who is active in gamblers anonymous and i find slot machines almost to be a "game quitting" dynamic for me. I find gambling offensive. sorry to see these are going in. :(

[Banok]

This, scrap slot machines and warhulks in one go. I think somebody does understand what immersion is.

I would agree but I think its too late. darkfall was never really shooting for realism/immersion.

might as well add in game mobile phones soon.

[theironchef]

Seriously?

I think the game design team should spend more time browsing the suggestion forum. I can't see how a slot machine is going to improve Darkfall in anyway.

Infact, imagine all the potential bugs this new feature could have and how devastatingly they could be exploited.

This feature is a waste of Developers' time IMO.

[Klayo]

The fucking devs make a god damn slot machine when the game is exploitable/unbalanced now I remember why everyone looks down on you.

[elf8bliss]

Come on Jackpot!

[Tenebrion]

im a compulsive gambler who is active in gamblers anonymous and i find slot machines almost to be a "game quitting" dynamic for me. I find gambling offensive. sorry to see these are going in. :(

I'll bet you $5.00 that you'll use a slot machine.

[Klayo]

I'll bet you $5.00 that you'll use a slot machine.

Don't bet him he might get addicted to it.

[BlueOreo]

I'll bet you $5.00 that you'll use a slot machine.

Oh, that's cruel.

[Tibernicus]

The fucking devs make a god damn slot machine when the game is exploitable/unbalanced now I remember why everyone looks down on you.

Some people obviously don't now ANYTHING about game design or programming. Did you not read the pages upon pages of things they are adding in the expansion to help balance things? Do you honestly think there is any game out there that cannot be exploited? Do you honestly think that this slow machine side tracked the entirety of the dev team so that they cannot work on anything else? Grow up. It's fluff. It's a nice little gadget you can find and stick on your house to help customize them. There is NOTHING wrong with it. And for those thinking that you can 'exploit it because of random numbers' you'd just as soon exploit the combat system to hit for max damage every time. That's random too.

[Tibernicus]

How is a slot machine any different from having chess or checkers in UO? They hinted this isn't the only thing being added. Some of you need to get your heads examined, you're acting like this is the apocalypse. What's wrong with a slot machine? Breaks immersion? We have lightning towers and warhulks. Have a nice day.

[Jyrkoon]

omg Slotmachines ...... sorry guys is this the top secret weapon, that stop people quitting DF? :bang:

[Patriota]

haha thats crazy awesome

[MrDDT]

April 1st come early?

This is epic stupid. I can think of 1000s of things this game could have that are better then this.

[Tenebrion]

I am epic stupid.

I fixed your post for ya.

[Drool111]

Shouldn't AV be spending their time fixing the game/doing more important things rather than trivial stuff like this?

[ellobo29]

i think this is a good start for AV.... but think bigger. like full blow casinos with blackjack, poker, ect....

i hate gambling....i find it boring but if they added blackjack in this game, i would definately get addicted

[ellobo29]

oh... and only add them to npc citys and villages.

[gheybaby]

Shouldn't AV be spending their time fixing the game/doing more important things rather than trivial stuff like this?

Between the coding, DB additions and graphics I can't imagine something like this took more than a couple of days tops. And it's another way to get people to go to villages other than just those gnome sellers that nobody is going to use.

[Signus]

Shouldn't AV be spending their time fixing the game/doing more important things rather than trivial stuff like this?

You say that as if this was some monumental task that took the developers ages, soaked up all their development time, and as some poster said earlier "their secret weapon to save Darkfall". Did everyone just suddenly forget about the large list of other things coming in the expansion? Some of you are suffering from short sightedness.

[Nayin]

woot, one more thing for ppl to hack and get RicH!

[darkelfv]

Omg Yes. Slot machines, animals that roam around. This is exactly one of the biggest things darkfall was missing. Fluff. Fluff is good. Keeps you from going bored. Brings in more players from other walks of life that don't hardcore it up as much. Which means more ppl to kill. THis is a good thing.

Going way back to the early rpg games like questron - one of the best things they ever did was have gambling halls. Mini games and way to bet money for better or worse. We are addictive people why not have addictive things in the game to make it more fun.

This is not all they are adding so don't get all huffy about what they didn't work on for the time they took on this. THis is one of the best things any hopeful could ask for. They already proved they are working on many fixes, but fluff too. Its just amazing and gives hope this game can get better and will. This game has potential to be one of the best games ever. period.

Keep it up devs, good work.

[Corp-Por]

Just take it for what it is.
A tiny little addition of fluff/moneysink into the game.

A Nice addition.

Would you rather have no slotmachines in the game? Or slotmachines in the game?
I'll pick slots anyday of the week.

One that could be prone to being affected by 3rd party hacks, before you say it can't, it happened in EQ2 slots machines, they got exploited to pay out using a 3rd party hack, DF client being like Swiss cheese to hackers its very much a possible outcome to this feature.

[Tengil]

This is a sign that the devs are still having fun and are allowed some creativity. And that they are a little crazy.

All good.

But they have to, this time, understand that among the Darkfall players there will be people smarter then them - and that they will try to exploit this using macro's or anything they can. And put in a hard limit to the maximum earning.

[Tibernicus]

woot, one more thing for ppl to hack and get RicH!

If someone can hack a random number generator, then there are a lot bigger things they're going to do to screw the game over than mess with the slot machine.

[Nitsua185]

If someone can hack a random number generator, then there are a lot bigger things they're going to do to screw the game over than mess with the slot machine.

Haha, this.

Please if you don't know what you're talking about, stop throwing out the OMGZZZ THUR GUNNA GET HACKED!! comments.

[Ighox]

If someone does invent a RNG hack though, please let me have it, I could use that shit irl as well.

[dbmk]

How can that be out of style while we have flying laser tanks aka warhulks!? :ninja:

Fair point. Never thought their presence helped the immersion much either - but they do still fit in a lot better with the magic/fantasy theme - than a big skullshaped slot machine.

Welcome to Hello Darkfall.

[Wuuz]

FUCKING AWESOME :D YAY :cool::cool::cool:

btw we allso need Darkfall holdem :D

[Caaahl]

And pls dont forget, that these machines wont be everywhere at every corner. If you dont like em and think they dont belong into the world of Agon, just stay away from the gambling houses... if you can. ;)

[Helgrrr]

I love the way if someone doesn't like an ide they just immediately decide that no-one should have it.

Slot machines may not quite gel with the immersive thing but tbh nor do cannons for me but you don't see me screaming at people not to use them.

If you don't like an idea just keep away from it, surely that's the whole point of sandbox.

Of course I'm sure all the people who moan about slots will burn theirs if they pick one up out of a chest xD

[fCo_Pancho]

Fucking retarded.

[traitor1]

yea now I loose my money ig too :D

[forestchild]

You've got to be kidding...

Wow, just wow...

You're spending time and resources on this?

What a tremendous disappointment. :(

I had hope for the expansion... please don't kill it!

I agree its slowly chanching into a themepark bah:(

This dont belong in darkfall, plus spent time create this would have better SPENT fix prblems or inroduce things that are way better suited then stupid gambleing machine thats in all those themepark game its not original and FLUFF thats for WoW or WAR LotR not darkfall:(

[Navicerts]

Scrubs play slots. I want poker! (or anything that can be "played" with another person).

[evilsuxxor]

nice, small things make the fun in the game

[-morph-]

You say that as if this was some monumental task that took the developers ages, soaked up all their development time, and as some poster said earlier "their secret weapon to save Darkfall". Did everyone just suddenly forget about the large list of other things coming in the expansion? Some of you are suffering from short sightedness.

Well they are long overdue on their own deadline and the game has a very long list indeed of serious issues. So he has a point. I think some of you may be suffering from a case of fanboiitise.

[Oceanic]

f e c k i n ' B S

[bongloads]

fluff = more subs.

more subs = better game

gj on slot machines

[Frisca]

Plain stupid - FORGET village life. Resurrect CITY life ... FFs.

[Khayr]

Slot machines?! wtf

While your at it..... make some items you can only get by paying the darkfall online store.

Adventurine. Stop messing around. Fix player base Fix AI Fix bugs/hacks.... and i think you will make alot more people happy, then introducing all this shit to the game.

my 2 cents

[Chidar]

I have to agree, what a piece of fluff.

Yeah i'll join Darkfall its got slot machines new subs here we come....don't think so!

What Df needs is a community bigger than 10 people per grid!
Ideas anyone? Oh wait slot machines that will do it! ROFLMAO

[Alan theSad]

Stop adding more pieces of junk that you will need to fix, and fix the pieces that are already messed up. Fix Armor, weapons, add more options to EVERYTHING before you provide a "slot machine"... seriously? Not only is it a waste of time, space, etc. It completely detracts from the theme of the game, along with the time period/era. This will be second only to the Air-guitar emote = rediculous.

[Fenrir Frauki]

I wonder how long it will take before somebody figured out how to exploit slot machines.

[Kaang]

I see shark jumping with this feature

[Atnas]

lol

Is this thread serious. I can't believe it's serious. What the heck.

[kelthroun]

Nice addition!!! :)

[Saorlan]

You've got to be kidding...

Wow, just wow...

You're spending time and resources on this?

What a tremendous disappointment. :(

I had hope for the expansion... please don't kill it!

Er it is an excellent idea. Dont be so down on things.

[Signus]

I agree its slowly chanching into a themepark bah:(

This dont belong in darkfall, plus spent time create this would have better SPENT fix prblems or inroduce things that are way better suited then stupid gambleing machine thats in all those themepark game its not original and FLUFF thats for WoW or WAR LotR not darkfall:(

Um... WHAT? This post takes the cake. The devs aren't allowed to add anything to Darkfall ever again until everything is bug free? What about all the OTHER stuff in the expansion? Guess we can't add anything to fix balance because the game is unbalanced, and the circular logic goes round...

And how is a slot machine in any way related to THEME PARK. I don't see a slot machine making the game linear... I think you're confused. Ultima Online did have things like this, after all.

[MrDDT]

Um... WHAT? This post takes the cake. The devs aren't allowed to add anything to Darkfall ever again until everything is bug free? What about all the OTHER stuff in the expansion? Guess we can't add anything to fix balance because the game is unbalanced, and the circular logic goes round...

And how is a slot machine in any way related to THEME PARK. I don't see a slot machine making the game linear... I think you're confused. Ultima Online did have things like this, after all.


Do you have reading problems? Stop being a fanboi for a second and read his post first.

He said fix bugs OR "inroduce things that are way better suited".

Maybe add an arena? Or maybe add rare spawns, or maybe add epic armor or weapons.

This just is sooooooo far down the list of things they should be working on it shouldnt even be near this expac or the next one.

UO was way more polished then this game. If you are going to compare please at least admit that.

This is 100% fluff and nothing more and even at that is not even good fluff, its not something everyone will be using or will be seeing. Its very rare and inside player house which is likely to be locked up. (Which BTW people rarely use other then travel too).

Does the expac have some good ideas in it? Sure does, is this something thats a good idea? Nope its a bad idea and 100% fluff. Would I mind if it were in the game? Nope not really IF they were running out of other things to do, sure toss this in and no one would care. But they have so much to do that even spending 1hour doing this crap is way to long. Let alone posting it like its some great thing.

[Askeladden]

Wow, so much bitching, pissing and moaning over such a minor feature ..

It's simple really, you don't like it then don't use it. It won't effect your gameplay in any way whatsoever unless you want it to, so why not just STFU and leave it to those that find minor fluff like this it interesting.

[Signus]

This is 100% fluff and nothing more

Yes, no kidding. Fluff is a good thing. Also, such small fluff does not spell doom for the game as a whole, despite people treating it that way for some reason. There is nothing wrong with adding small things into the game, not 100% of the team is busy at all times you know.

[Atnas]

Yes, no kidding. Fluff is a good thing. Also, such small fluff does not spell doom for the game as a whole

This (http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=221618) does though! I've received better spam in my trashbox.

[MrDDT]

Yes, no kidding. Fluff is a good thing. Also, such small fluff does not spell doom for the game as a whole, despite people treating it that way for some reason. There is nothing wrong with adding small things into the game, not 100% of the team is busy at all times you know.


I agree that the team isnt busy 100% of the time. However, this is very far from what is remotely good fluff for the game. I believe the team could be working on 1000s of other things (fluff or not) that are better then this.

You needed artists for this, you needed the code to put into the game and who knows what else. I mean I can think of tons of things for them to do if they were not busy.

Is this game breaking? Of course not, but clearly shows that there is a lack of good ideas about what is going to be used in game and what isnt.

If I have a house burning around me, I dont get a toothbrush and start cleaning a spot in the carpet. Fluff or not, its not needed right now and surely they could find better things to do.

[johnnyc3po]

Um... WHAT? This post takes the cake. The devs aren't allowed to add anything to Darkfall ever again until everything is bug free? What about all the OTHER stuff in the expansion? Guess we can't add anything to fix balance because the game is unbalanced, and the circular logic goes round...

And how is a slot machine in any way related to THEME PARK. I don't see a slot machine making the game linear... I think you're confused. Ultima Online did have things like this, after all.

Quit calling it a fucking expansion, it's a patch to fix the broken siege system, economy, melee, archery.... and the list goes on and on...

Adding shit like "slotmachines" is fine once you have a very stable, core complete game.

[s1wg4u]

I wonder how many days were wasted creating that graphic, and making sure the 'slot machines' work as intended, all the while ignoring the fucking BROKEN game mechanics. I'm glad aventurine has their priorities in order.

/s

[MortalZero]

its a hell of a slotmashine tho.

[Liquid20]

I wonder how many days were wasted creating that graphic, and making sure the 'slot machines' work as intended, all the while ignoring the fucking BROKEN game mechanics. I'm glad aventurine has their priorities in order.

/s

QFT:bang:

[Dragoon]

Funny how instead of giving us an ETA on the expansion they stall and post an update on a MINOR FLUFF feature and it backfires on them with criticism.

There's nothing wrong with this new feature. It's a cool idea to add slots/poker tables/checkers/etc as add-ons to houses but it's retarded to devote a spotlight article to a slot machine. The reason people are so full of angst is because they either want an updated ETA on the expansion OR they want a spotlight on a big feature that will drastically improve gameplay.

[Signus]

I wonder how many days were wasted creating that graphic, and making sure the 'slot machines' work as intended, all the while ignoring the fucking BROKEN game mechanics. I'm glad aventurine has their priorities in order.

/s


I wonder how many people are going to ignore all the other features that have been listed in the expansion. Wonder how many people who don't understand game design or programming are going to post...

Quit calling it a fucking expansion, it's a patch to fix the broken siege system, economy, melee, archery.... and the list goes on and on...



<sigh> Oh boy. I guess Aventurine has to increase the skill cap from 60 to 70 <cough> er, I mean 100 to 110 in order for it to be considered a real expansion then right? I mean, revamping AI, adding roaming mobs, adding local banking, caravans, expanding housing, adding racial traits, revamping+expanding naval objectives, ship building, ship combat, caravans, dynamic lore and dev events, cannot possibly be called an expansion. :)

[johnnyc3po]

I wonder how many people are going to ignore all the other features that have been listed in the expansion. Wonder how many people who don't understand game design or programming are going to post...



<sigh> Oh boy. I guess Aventurine has to increase the skill cap from 60 to 70 <cough> er, I mean 100 to 110 in order for it to be considered a real expansion then right? I mean, revamping AI, adding roaming mobs, adding local banking, caravans, expanding housing, adding racial traits, revamping+expanding naval objectives, ship building, ship combat, caravans, dynamic lore and dev events, cannot possibly be called an expansion. :)


Things that were originally promised at initial release:
Roaming Mobs, Caravans, Racial Traits, Dynamic Lore/Content


If you ask me, they're simply finishing the game.

[dbmk]

If I have a house burning around me, I dont get a toothbrush and start cleaning a spot in the carpet. Fluff or not, its not needed right now and surely they could find better things to do.

I don't even care if someone did it in their own time. It does not fit in the game world.

This STINKS of lack of game design direction. And that is the bad thing about this.

It might not make it a themepark MMO. But on the other hand - given this development - why would anyone be surprised when village rollercoasters are introduced next?

[Tibernicus]

Things that were originally promised at initial release:
Roaming Mobs, Caravans, Racial Traits, Dynamic Lore/Content


If you ask me, they're simply finishing the game.

Actually, most of those things were cut well ahead of time. Fail troll is fail.

[johnnyc3po]

Actually, most of those things were cut well ahead of time. Fail troll is fail.

Actually, they were cut after the game was released to the public. You do remember AV's infamous "Updating of the features list on the forums post release" right?

[Trammie]

Actually, they were cut after the game was released to the public. You do remember AV's infamous "Updating of the features list on the forums post release" right?

go watch a starwar

[Shinx]

I wonder how many people are going to ignore all the other features that have been listed in the expansion. Wonder how many people who don't understand game design or programming are going to post...



<sigh> Oh boy. I guess Aventurine has to increase the skill cap from 60 to 70 <cough> er, I mean 100 to 110 in order for it to be considered a real expansion then right? I mean, revamping AI, adding roaming mobs, adding local banking, caravans, expanding housing, adding racial traits, revamping+expanding naval objectives, ship building, ship combat, caravans, dynamic lore and dev events, cannot possibly be called an expansion. :)

i call that shit that should have been in the game in the first place

[Lrac]

Too bad they are just in villages. I'd rather have some more people in the cities, atleast the capitals. Walking through Charybis I see 3 people if it's crowded (probably afk at the bank or just grabing new gear). Not that a skull-slot machine would really fit in there :P But you could have it customized for said city.

Don't really care if this slot machine is in game or not, guess it wont hurt. I'd rather read some more about the racial thingies though.

[Thetii]

Sorry Adventurine, but i think this slotmachine has not to exist in a world like Darkfall's.
I think if i ever find one, i will just destroy it. I want to play in a world of struggle, where characters fight for various objectives, wether political, racial, magical, whether it's just for robbing someone, or escort a convoy of goods (if ever this could be introduced).
A gamble machine doesn't fit in there. I'm not here to play a gambling civilian.
I'm sure you won't even be able to take it and smash a dirty head with hit ... useless.

[doomahx]

i call that shit that should have been in the game in the first place

Ok, well it wasn't and they are adding some now.

Case closed.

[Gray Fox]

You say that as if this was some monumental task that took the developers ages, soaked up all their development time, and as some poster said earlier "their secret weapon to save Darkfall". Did everyone just suddenly forget about the large list of other things coming in the expansion? Some of you are suffering from short sightedness.

Most people here dont even read the the whole thread...

I dont mind the gambling concept and what it provides, I actually support it.
Its just a slot machine... Please change it for something else that does the same thing. :(

[Bored]

i call that shit that should have been in the game in the first place
I call that shit that would delay the release of the game. People are bitching that AV is delayed the expansion to add in more features, then half those people come around and bitch that those features weren't in game on release. It's a sort of sliding scale. The more you wait for features to be done, the longer before the public can play, but releasing things too early leaves players with a sense of an incomplete game. It's a balancing act and you'll never get it right because not everyone will agree on where the line should be drawn.

As well if AV were simply to put all effort into fixing bugs, and balancing the game 24/7 first off the fucking art team would be out of jobs, secondly things like this would NEVER be implemented, thirdly the distribution of work and management of the code would be an ungodly task to undertake, and well the game would take forever to get anything new.

Also remember that 20 guys working on the same thing doesn't get it done 20 times faster, sometimes it actually slows things down and your wasting a lot of man hours. So things like this are small tasks that can be given to say one coder, and one artist. It then removes that guy from the clusterfuck of working on the same code, and actually improves efficiency. Sure there are other things that might of been cooler, but if they had of done those people would have complained about that instead, because maybe this might have been cooler to someone else.

Seriously, this is a small thing in a sea of feature being added, this does not mean that AV is wasting time and in fact could be helping them be more efficient. It seems half of you have no fucking clue how this code would work, how games are made, or how to manage a large (though small compared to most game teams it's still a large group of people) group of people, and really have no clue what they're talking about.

[lkx]

Quit calling it a fucking expansion, it's a patch to fix the broken siege system, economy, melee, archery.... and the list goes on and on...

Actually whatever add new things to a game could be called an expansion, and this one even more than the first.
Anyway, i can't care less about how they call them...

But hell... slot machines... are they kidding me? Put some frakking npc gambler in villages' taverns instead!... oh shit... there aren't vilages' taverns :P

[Platon2x]

Will 3 Yoda get You the jackpot?

[Gray Fox]

Things that were originally promised at initial release:
Roaming Mobs, Caravans, Racial Traits, Dynamic Lore/Content


If you ask me, they're simply finishing the game.

Finishing the game with the release of expansions.

[Bored]

Quit calling it a fucking expansion, it's a patch to fix the broken siege system, economy, melee, archery.... and the list goes on and on...
Have you seen the list of features being added? I've payed expansions for mmo's that haven't added half as much as this one. People are all to used to the idea that an expansion is just a new area with new quests and maybe a new class, but the amount of stuff being put into this is way more then that. We have new skills, prestige classes, new siege mechanics (not fixing them, re-doing them, two different things), new items, new gameplay mechanics, new mobs, player vendors, local banks (not complete local banking but banks that are local), racial skills, more specializations, mob strengths/weaknesses, a new house type (keep), new GM features, sea objectives, caravans, barber shops, and maybe more that I'm forgetting.

[Yarsoon]

I cant even imagine what ideas were considered "less" important then this.

[Kasmos]

Will 3 Yoda get You the jackpot?

No, three pictures of Tasos' face will though.

Seriously, are people in this thread fucking serious? 230+ posts of bitching and moaning about a first step into gambling into Darkfall?

Jesus fucking christ, some of you need to calm the fuck down.

[Night Shade]

I call that shit that would delay the release of the game. People are bitching that AV is delayed the expansion to add in more features, then half those people come around and bitch that those features weren't in game on release. It's a sort of sliding scale. The more you wait for features to be done, the longer before the public can play, but releasing things too early leaves players with a sense of an incomplete game. It's a balancing act and you'll never get it right because not everyone will agree on where the line should be drawn.

As well if AV were simply to put all effort into fixing bugs, and balancing the game 24/7 first off the fucking art team would be out of jobs, secondly things like this would NEVER be implemented, thirdly the distribution of work and management of the code would be an ungodly task to undertake, and well the game would take forever to get anything new.

Also remember that 20 guys working on the same thing doesn't get it done 20 times faster, sometimes it actually slows things down and your wasting a lot of man hours. So things like this are small tasks that can be given to say one coder, and one artist. It then removes that guy from the clusterfuck of working on the same code, and actually improves efficiency. Sure there are other things that might of been cooler, but if they had of done those people would have complained about that instead, because maybe this might have been cooler to someone else.

Seriously, this is a small thing in a sea of feature being added, this does not mean that AV is wasting time and in fact could be helping them be more efficient. It seems half of you have no fucking clue how this code would work, how games are made, or how to manage a large (though small compared to most game teams it's still a large group of people) group of people, and really have no clue what they're talking about.

QTF, People have been crying for sand in the sand box, for tools and yes this is not the all to all that but its a start. Any fluff is good for this game and more will come.

[Night Shade]

No, three pictures of Tasos' face will though.

Seriously, are people in this thread fucking serious? 230+ posts of bitching and moaning about a first step into gambling into Darkfall?

Jesus fucking christ, some of you need to calm the fuck down.



Agreed !

[Khayr]

And how is a slot machine in any way related to THEME PARK. I don't see a slot machine making the game linear... I think you're confused. Ultima Online did have things like this, after all.

Yes UO did have gambling stuff introduced. And this is why the hardcore players in UO left, and trammies moved in. And we waited for a game like darkfall.

But it seems the devs that "supposedly" played UO, fail to understand what the majority of DFO players actually expect.

Anyways Darkfall is still a fun game. Its just getting more shitty

[intzi]

how can i play darkfall

[Gray Fox]

Seriously, are people in this thread fucking serious? 230+ posts of bitching and moaning about a first step into gambling into Darkfall?

Jesus fucking christ, some of you need to calm the fuck down.

Nobody is bitching because we will have gambling... Of course you would know that if you read the whole thread. Go read it and tell why I and some other, bitch about this new feature.

[Caaahl]

Yes UO did have gambling stuff introduced. And this is why the hardcore players in UO left, and trammies moved in. And we waited for a game like darkfall.

But it seems the devs that "supposedly" played UO, fail to understand what the majority of DFO players actually expect.

Anyways Darkfall is still a fun game. Its just getting more shitty

Listen to Khayr! He is the majority of DFO!.....not.

[Dragoon]

People claiming that the game is getting shitty because of slot machines are retarded. I hate slot machines and don't plan on ever using them. But I'm glad this kind of stuff is being added to villages.

What does it matter to you if the game adds a useless fluff feature that you're not forced to use? Other games will obviously be added later. I wont use them but it's something other people might like.

[MortalZero]

People claiming that the game is getting shitty because of slot machines are retarded. I hate slot machines and don't plan on ever using them. But I'm glad this kind of stuff is being added to villages.

What does it matter to you if the game adds a useless fluff feature that you're not forced to use? Other games will obviously be added later. I wont use them but it's something other people might like.

Those people then will not be out in the world to interact with you but hanging before a slotmachine gambling. Much like IRL, those people are lost tzo real life like they will be lost to online life and what you are supposed to do in Darkfall.

Then its another activity lost from skill to luck after the chaos chest. At least chaos chest add for you incentive for mobility. Slotmachine makes you earn or loose gold without any skill involved plus carry you away from "Agon's life".

[xFxAxCxEx]

how can i play darkfall

http://www.darkfallonline.com/buydarkfall/?cp=US0AD3BDC38FA11543DCBD510155FCF67C

[xFxAxCxEx]

I'm sure the machine is going to make noise so everyone around will know you are playing.

[Nocturne]

Um... WHAT? This post takes the cake. The devs aren't allowed to add anything to Darkfall ever again until everything is bug free? What about all the OTHER stuff in the expansion? Guess we can't add anything to fix balance because the game is unbalanced, and the circular logic goes round...

And how is a slot machine in any way related to THEME PARK. I don't see a slot machine making the game linear... I think you're confused. Ultima Online did have things like this, after all.

When do we get boomboxes then? How about Mahirim doing the peanut butter shuffle?

[Dragoon]

Those people then will not be out in the world to interact with you but hanging before a slotmachine gambling.

Are you slow or something? The slot machines are inside of VILLAGES not newbie tower protected starter towns. The goal is to add more features to houses and make village life more attractive. If people are hanging out around slot machines then go kill them. Currently the only things to really do in the game are fight players or fight mobs, that's not very sandbox.

[Rhygar]

Haven't been to this forum in a while... so imagine my surprise when I read this OP. The Spotlight asked the question a while ago "what RP features we would like to see?"... and this is what they took from that discussion? :confused:

[Bored]

Haven't been to this forum in a while... so imagine my surprise when I read this OP. The Spotlight asked the question a while ago "what RP features we would like to see?"... and this is what they took from that discussion? :confused:
Yes because this is obviously their solution for rpers and the only thing they will ever do for RPers :rolleyes:

[Juvante]

You've got to be kidding...

Wow, just wow...

You're spending time and resources on this?

What a tremendous disappointment. :(

I had hope for the expansion... please don't kill it!

Oh, shut the hell up. This adds to the game, not kill the expansion. This game needs fluff like this, including in game CHESS and poker tables.

[Juvante]

Most people here dont even read the the whole thread...

I dont mind the gambling concept and what it provides, I actually support it.
Its just a slot machine... Please change it for something else that does the same thing. :(

No

[Juvante]

Slot machines?! wtf

While your at it..... make some items you can only get by paying the darkfall online store.

Adventurine. Stop messing around. Fix player base Fix AI Fix bugs/hacks.... and i think you will make alot more people happy, then introducing all this shit to the game.

my 2 cents

You people are stupid, they said that they are fixing this stuff, but adding slotmachines was just an additional thing to add. You guys have no life. Way to overreact.