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Scarecrow089
10-31-2009, 09:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/user/Scarecrow0089

Don't simply accept but QUESTION EVERYTHING

Kuruptix
10-31-2009, 09:22 PM
props to you man ! :)

GFH_Spike
10-31-2009, 09:28 PM
Question everything, but don't waste your time on conspiracies espoused by paranoid nutjobs, such as Alex Jones and his ilk.

By the way, I imagine that your total number of subscribers will remain at zero, given your advertising tactics and lack of original content. If you're lucky, a moderator will grant an infraction prize, which is the only attention you deserve.

Aragoni
10-31-2009, 09:31 PM
I'll take neither (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpnXBVcMdBw)!

Vessol
10-31-2009, 09:32 PM
Question everything, except what CNN/Fox/MSNBC tells you.

Apex Vertigo
10-31-2009, 10:32 PM
God fucking damn you conspiracy idiots are getting annoying. Ironic how you say "question everything" while you seemingly don't question the guys doing all the questioning? Don't believe the "mainstream", they are liars! Believe this random guy on youtube, he knows the truth!

Dyrrn
11-01-2009, 01:09 AM
God fucking damn you conspiracy idiots are getting annoying. Ironic how you say "question everything" while you seemingly don't question the guys doing all the questioning? Don't believe the "mainstream", they are liars! Believe this random guy on youtube, he knows the truth!

as i've said before, just because some one follows a different shepherd doesn't make them any less of a sheep.

Vessol
11-01-2009, 02:00 AM
I question everything, including the 'alternative media'. Yet I'm still a "nut" apparently. The people calling me nuts are the ones who don't question anything.

Lord Caim
11-01-2009, 06:13 AM
I question everything, including the 'alternative media'. Yet I'm still a "nut" apparently. The people calling me nuts are the ones who don't question anything.
It's because either path you choose (acceptance or questioning) you're trying to win. Try to lose more often and you'll find that everything is pleasant.

Vessol
11-01-2009, 06:15 AM
It's because either path you choose (acceptance or questioning) you're trying to win. Try to lose more often and you'll find that everything is pleasant.

Nah, I'm not trying to win or lose, I'm just here for the ride.

Gloomrender
11-01-2009, 06:51 AM
There's a grain of truth in the alternative media movement, the conspiracy guys, but I find most of it to be utterly baseless and speculative. Obviously "guys with money" pull the strings and are bent on world domination, but I don't think these people really know who or exactly how. They don't have any standards of proof, so they spew a lot of theoretical nonsense and hope something sticks to the wall.

It would be nice if someone really did know exactly what was going on with the elites in power, but folks, Alex Jones types don't really have any credible answers for you. They're more or less making shit up and mixing it with some real news here and there, and some not so trustworthy news, and say their shit confidently enough, but don't have any real foundation in reality/evidence. Alex Jones in particular is a money grubber I believe. And it frankly wouldn't surprise me...if, paradoxically, some of these people are working for the man playing the distraction game. At the least, some of them are just in it for the money, selling lies.

It's entertaining, but shouldn't be taken as much more than entertainment. 97% of the information is questionable and shouldn't be trusted. Watch that shit with that in mind.

jobresume
11-01-2009, 05:03 PM
Well i can't say anything to you. Its all about your choice and i think you need to follow your heart's desire in choosing color. Its better for you.

Strangia
11-01-2009, 06:45 PM
As I've said before, WHY would people want to take over the world, and what would they do after they have? Its not like they truly gain anything: they gain more by there being more than one country, because of war and international trade.

Vessol
11-01-2009, 08:13 PM
As I've said before, WHY would people want to take over the world, and what would they do after they have? Its not like they truly gain anything: they gain more by there being more than one country, because of war and international trade.

It's the end to a means. What good is money besides to gain more power? Power is the ultimate goal. If you people don't seek power, you need to reread your history books. What people mix up is that they want power for more money, it's the other way around. What are you going to do with more money except use it to gain more power? Power is the end of the means(which is money).

Also Alex Jones is a bullhorn yelling douchebag, but I've independently researched a number of things he has said and they are right.

Some certain examples. The founders and supporters of the eugenics movement back in the early 20th century went on after WW2 to found the modern environmentalist socities, Greenpeace, WWF, etc. Same with Planned Parenthood, the founder was huge into eugenics. Not to mention that a lot of the people in Britain and America were originally very supportive of Hitler's eugenics program.
He also talks sometimes about the Rothchilds, and reading up on history, they definitely play a lot of roles. They have been behind every Central Bank pushed in the U.S and the UK.

The Blackhand Society which was behind the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand was funded and a smaller group of Serbian MI6 agents.

Same with Mussolini whom was recently revealed to be an MI6 asset.

Also IBM and many other American corporations supported Nazi Germany throughout the war. This is pretty well known, Ford had a hardon for hitler and IBM were the ones behind the Jew tagging system.

I'm not saying it's some vast conspiracy that's hundreds of years in the making. But I definitely think there are easily spottable men behind the curtain.

GFH_Spike
11-01-2009, 08:46 PM
As I've said before, WHY would people want to take over the world, and what would they do after they have? Its not like they truly gain anything: they gain more by there being more than one country, because of war and international trade.

While this is largely speculation, I wouldn't be surprised if those who seek power above all else are doing so in compensation for issues in their lives, perhaps leading to a psychological need for control; dominance over others. One can witness this in the oppressive police officer and dictatorial teacher, both of which inappropriately wield their limited power, presumably to boost self-esteem, ensuring that they remain the kings of their small hill. Sure, it's small, but it is also a hill, and one under their ownership.

The difference? A matter of scope and scale. The hills of these politicians are far larger than those of a school teacher or police officer.

Strangia
11-01-2009, 09:12 PM
But there is NO POINT. We don't have a bunch of Bond villains running around here: we have bankers, politicians, and military leaders. The world doesn't work in plot devices, people actually need to have motivations for actions such as attempting to take over the world. Their goals would have to be benevolent in order for a large group of people such as the ones described to try to take over the world. If their goals were destructive, they would be no different than Sauron. They just be taking over the world for some ridiculous reason just to be taking over the world. And I think its this Sauron World Government which makes people like conspiracy theories: it gives them this nice Us vs. The Big Bad government feeling. They feel like they are fighting tyranny, when really they are finding connections in unrelated events.

The Rothchilds were behind a great many of things in History, they were the richest family in Prussia/Germany. But that doesn't mean they were behind the assassination of Franz Ferdinand. It doesn't mean that the Rothchilds let Pearl Harbor happen. People are working for themselves, like they always have. Unless again, their goals had some benevolence behind them, I can't imagine some world conspiracy to create a single government.

Vessol
11-01-2009, 09:14 PM
What if they think that it is beneficial and or it is the greater good? I don't think they are doing it to be evil and because they hate the world. I believe that they think that they are doing good and that the common and sovereign nations do not know what to do and that they will make the world a better place.

When has any powermonger in the past done what they did just to be evil? None. They all thought they were doing what was best.

Rossco
11-01-2009, 09:57 PM
What if they think that it is beneficial and or it is the greater good? I don't think they are doing it to be evil and because they hate the world. I believe that they think that they are doing good and that the common and sovereign nations do not know what to do and that they will make the world a better place.

When has any powermonger in the past done what they did just to be evil? None. They all thought they were doing what was best.

Pretty much this. This is, unfortunately, the downfall of the simple human intellect.

Delwyn
11-01-2009, 10:02 PM
Somebody murder the OP.

Strangia
11-01-2009, 10:02 PM
Pretty much this. This is, unfortunately, the downfall of the simple human intellect.

I somehow doubt that all of the richest, most powerful people in the world would all agree on what their version of "benevolence" enough to actually try to cohesively take over the world.

Vessol
11-01-2009, 10:04 PM
I somehow doubt that all of the richest, most powerful people in the world would all agree on what their version of "benevolence" enough to actually try to cohesively take over the world.

Well they have meetings on it regularly.

And the pathway is through phony Environmentalism.

Bissen
11-01-2009, 10:19 PM
Well they have meetings on it regularly.

And the pathway is through phony Environmentalism.

I question everything, including the 'alternative media

See the irony Vessol?

Strangia
11-01-2009, 10:19 PM
Well they have meetings on it regularly.

And the pathway is through phony Environmentalism.

Ah, so a Chinese business man somewhere is probably sitting there, talking with some military leader from England, while a nice Indian politician sits with some sort of scientist from the United States, all of them just in agreement perfectly in how to take over a world of 7 billion disagreeing people.

In fact, if all of these guys could agree, it would be the most ideal government: a government not divided in terms of race, religion, nationality, or any dividing factor. If there is some super world government, they at least are acting in there interest of everyone.

I still seriously doubt there is a world government.

Vessol
11-01-2009, 10:48 PM
See the irony Vessol?

No, not really. I've independently researched multiple sources for my conclusions, instead of reading off one news source.

Ah, so a Chinese business man somewhere is probably sitting there, talking with some military leader from England, while a nice Indian politician sits with some sort of scientist from the United States, all of them just in agreement perfectly in how to take over a world of 7 billion disagreeing people.

In fact, if all of these guys could agree, it would be the most ideal government: a government not divided in terms of race, religion, nationality, or any dividing factor. If there is some super world government, they at least are acting in there interest of everyone.

I still seriously doubt there is a world government.

It's not that many people really. And like I said, Environmentalism will be the pathway to world government. Namely the Copenhagen treaty. Which can invalidate the laws of any nation whom signs the treaty.

Teth
11-01-2009, 10:53 PM
Ah, so a Chinese business man somewhere is probably sitting there, talking with some military leader from England, while a nice Indian politician sits with some sort of scientist from the United States, all of them just in agreement perfectly in how to take over a world of 7 billion disagreeing people.
Generally speaking, yes. These individuals have probably all gone to the same handful of institutions to get their higher educations. They're all reading international professional/scientific journals to keep up with the nuances of their field, with contributors from all over the developed world. All are enjoying roughly comparable standards of living and enjoy the same fruits of globalization.

Once you get to the top rungs of non-destitute societies the world is a remarkably homogenous place. So it has been for a long, long time now.

Attau
11-01-2009, 11:09 PM
Ah, so a Chinese business man somewhere is probably sitting there, talking with some military leader from England, while a nice Indian politician sits with some sort of scientist from the United States, all of them just in agreement perfectly in how to take over a world of 7 billion disagreeing people.

In fact, if all of these guys could agree, it would be the most ideal government: a government not divided in terms of race, religion, nationality, or any dividing factor. If there is some super world government, they at least are acting in there interest of everyone.

I still seriously doubt there is a world government.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5j0_yjp5_O4l4C3knheAZIUvWoM-g

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-10/31/content_12363369.htm

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2009-10/20/content_8815441.htm

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,26290124-7583,00.html

http://www.businessday.co.za/articles/Content.aspx?id=84520

*shrug* These are just from October. The clips of Geithner admitting that they are considering making the SDR a world currency is in the Jones film. And they have to do something if you understand market economics. Noam Chomsky talks about this shit all the time - but he's just a wacko kook too amirite?