Stargate Universe

[Gloomrender]

Any good?

[mrbubbles]

nope

[Lord Caim]

It has its moments, but really though it's a travesty to the SG universe (universe here being the collection of the movies, series, fandom, etc).

[lafayette]

i like it, watching it right now.

[Wonderboy2402]

I saw the pilot then the follow up episode... Really nothing special. It's Battlestar galactica+Voyager mashed together... with a stargate.

[Reckun]

It has its moments, but really though it's a travesty to the SG universe (universe here being the collection of the movies, series, fandom, etc).

Yea I still miss the original stargate series :(

[Death's Chill]

Nothing to the original Stargate sg-1, but with that said it's still a decent science fiction show worth watching.

[paade]

I saw the pilot then the follow up episode... Really nothing special. It's Battlestar galactica+Voyager mashed together... with a stargate.

you forgot a spoonfull of Lost.

imo, its less shitty than the original SG series, but its still quite shitty. I cant figure out what Robert Carlyle was thinking when he decided to take part in this series of shit. Maybe he has ran out of money.

[Rossco]

So far it's pretty much just one long, drawn out opening episode. If it actually reaches a point where it starts doing something serious plot-wise, then maybe I'll care. Until then, it's a shit stain on the mantel of Stargate that would be best replaced by the original show.

[Brother Justin]

Even though nothing is happening in SG:U, it sure beats the shit out of the snoozefest SGA.

[Laxe]

Even though nothing is happening in SG:U, it sure beats the shit out of the snoozefest SGA.

sooo true, but if you look at first ~6 episodes of SGA they looked good too :rolleyes:, need to see how the season will end to judge, for now il just enjoy watching it

[Brainfreeze]

Possible spoilers.

Quick TL;DR answer to your question: maybe.

I'm 5 episodes into the season and it's pretty clear: it's not "Stargate". It doesn't have anything in common with the other series so far, other than that a stargate is featured. It's BSG with a stargate pretty much. They ripped off a lot, even camera movement and music.

There hardly is any action and the storyline progresses at a very, very slow speed.

It's hard to get to like the characters and only 2, maybe 3 stand out. Maybe. I wouldn't care at all if the others would die in a big explosion. And that's my main gripe with this series; it tries so hard to focus on the characters and drama between them, but it gives you no incentive to like most of them.

I have to watch and listen to endless speeches from random people I don't know or care about, being in the situation they're in, how bad they feel, how desperate they are, how sad they are, how they want to go home.. how they.. oh shut up and eject yourself out of an airlock. That shit works at the end of a season, or the next one, not during the first 3 episodes!

Where the other Stargate series would focus on the opportunities the cast has when finding themselves in a new and different situation, SG:U focuses on the negative drama, so far all the time. I wouldn't be surprised if they'd dedicate an episode to a castmember being gutted about having a hole in his sock.

Some of the storylines are just plain stupid and make no sense at all. The Senator's daughter out of nowhere involved with lieutenant what's his face, appearing as if they're lovers for several years. I laughed. Hard. Poor Eli though, aww.. Or maybe not.

There is room for improvement though. The premise is great and could have a lot of potential. Obviously the makers are still trying to find the right path. Or at least I hope. The next 5 episodes will make or break it for me. If the current shit keeps up, I won't be watching episode 11.

[SSguy]

Nothing to the original Stargate sg-1, but with that said it's still a decent science fiction show worth watching.

Its all garbage, the old and the new series (Especially the new one). It went downhill since they started fucking flying spaceships.
Seriously, I can't believe they had fucking dragons and some merlin bullshit at one point.

I liked it better when it was simple.
"Hey guys, lets go through this wierd ass portal to nowhere and see if we can find shit to shoot and blow up".

[dinkfall]

SGU is absolute shite. Why did they have to rip off BSG, which was another shit show?
SG-1 did not have any of this drama bullshit.

The new show to watch is Fringe.

[Carnagel]

I have to watch and listen to endless speeches from random people I don't know or care about, being in the situation they're in, how bad they feel, how desperate they are, how sad they are, how they want to go home.. how they.. oh shut up and eject yourself out of an airlock. That shit works at the end of a season, or the next one, not during the first 3 episodes!

So true

Reminds me of another series which epicly failed recently due to the same problem - Defying Gravity

For some reason writers / producers lately (especially in the sci-fi genre) seem to have this fetish for in-depth character interaction, but with no actual character depth, and very little storyline and action

One of the reasons the original SG and the latest BSG were so good was because they had action first, character depth / background second, and character interaction last - the perfect mix

SGU is turning (or maybe has already turned) into another boring yawnfest Soap In Space. They have a very highly followed and almost unlimited story arc potential franchise, and they are pissing it into the wind. I remember one of the producers from SG1 (I think it was Peter DeLuise) saying that there was such limitless potential in the Stargate universe that you would barely scratch the surface after 50 seasons, let alone the 10 seasons he was involved in

[Gloomrender]

Haha, I watched like 12 minutes of an episode, and I'm like "Battle Star Stargate", and turned it off. This was before I made this thread.

[Baralis]

I still watch it in the hopes it might turn into something else. Its crap in its current form, charactors are aweful.

[Marrik]

the only Stargate thing i really liked was the movie.



in the movie the jaffa were way more badass. for 1 thing, their laser staff things produced big explosions when they hit things, and 2 of them held off 500 humans with their bare hands.

[Systemaddict]

It has potential. They're lost in a completely new section of the universe so who knows what over arching story lines may pop up.

[Villa]

Some of the storylines are just plain stupid and make no sense at all. The Senator's daughter out of nowhere involved with lieutenant what's his face, appearing as if they're lovers for several years. I laughed. Hard. Poor Eli though, aww.. Or maybe not.

There is room for improvement though. The premise is great and could have a lot of potential. Obviously the makers are still trying to find the right path. Or at least I hope. The next 5 episodes will make or break it for me. If the current shit keeps up, I won't be watching episode 11.
This.

[Bak]

Brainfreeze said it.. but I have hope for it nontheless and will continue watching it for now.

[Villa]

It seems to me that this show is compensating for the action laden original series of SG1 which often lacked meaningful character interaction.
Unfortunately, this new show has over done it IMO and there is almost no action and far too much focus on characters.

[Death's Chill]

Its all garbage, the old and the new series (Especially the new one). It went downhill since they started fucking flying spaceships.
Seriously, I can't believe they had fucking dragons and some merlin bullshit at one point.

I liked it better when it was simple.
"Hey guys, lets go through this wierd ass portal to nowhere and see if we can find shit to shoot and blow up".

We'll have to agree to disagree I suppose. I thought Sg-1 rocked. Though the last two seasons were very different from the first 8, they still entertained me.

[Archetype90]

I really like the new show. I was a big fan of SG1, SGA, Voyager, and BSG. As some have said it feels like a mix of SGA, Voyager, and BSG. The acting is quite good (in my opinion... I even watched it while high, which is like a 'bad acting detector', and it was still good). The plots are quite interesting from each episode, and are more of a thinking man's plotline, as opposed to 'lets blow shit up'.

They've got me as a fan for the series, and I hope to god the negative opinions that are spread throughout this thread do not capture the general opinion regarding the show. I hope to see many seasons. But, I do agree that the storyline is progressing rather slowly. Although, the writers do seem to be capturing many of the problems one could encounter after being transported 7 billion light years from home. They have got me quite excited to see what they will encounter next..

[Villa]

They have got me quite excited to see what they will encounter next..
I suspect that in the next episode the toilets will back up and they desperately need a plumber.
Perhaps the next planet they stop at will have one?

[Bissen]

No good sci-fi since Firefly got cancelled.

[Villa]

No good sci-fi since Firefly got cancelled.
Galactica had it's moments and Star Gate Atlantis was reasonable IMO.

[Bak]

I really liked the new show and Voyager

Yeeeaah.. no, just no...... go away.

[Jangang]

Its good.

More of a drama than the others but very good. Reminds one of the newer Battlestar Galactica series in the Stargate Universe.

Its a pretty good show tho, don't let the haters get you down. Watch it and decide for yourself. There aren't that many episodes out yet, shouldn't take long to catch up and decide if you like it.

First three episodes have cliff hanger endings, but that stopped after three. They were setting up the plot, etc... in the first three.

It is very different from SG:SG1 and SGA, both of which I liked... But they never tried to hide that fact, and if you don't watch it expecting it to be more of the same its good. Has a lot of room to either get better, or flop, but so far I like it for its own merits.


And to the haters...

SGA was good. Stop crying that it wasn't SG1... And BSG was the shit, that show rocked. My only real problem w/ SGU is that I'm sure SciFi will cancel it prematurely like they did w/ both SG1 and SGA.

[Laxe]

WHY THE FUCKING FUCK, everyone says SGU is like BSG..... :bang: SGU has nothing what BSG had.... it even has no drama in it, well if u can call it a drama than you must be a fan of twilight...you people are shitheads...

[Jangang]

WHY THE FUCKING FUCK, everyone says SGU is like BSG..... :bang: SGU has nothing what BSG had.... it even has no drama in it, well if u can call it a drama than you must be a fan of twilight...you people are shitheads...

Never seen twiglight as I'm not a ***... But if you've watched BSG and started to watch SGU you'd get a very BSG feel from it. If you don't your retarded. Nobody said it was the same show. Its made in a similar manner, goes for that "style" of drama as opposed to the traditional SG style of "drama" (which often had goofy comedy intertwined for good or bad.)

[Gloomrender]

WHY THE FUCKING FUCK, everyone says SGU is like BSG..... :bang: SGU has nothing what BSG had.... it even has no drama in it, well if u can call it a drama than you must be a fan of twilight...you people are shitheads...

It's like BSG, but bad at it. Were not dissing your precious BSG, you don't be a shithead.

[ejnomad07]

I am very disappointed. They forgot what the original was all about. It's a fucking drama fest. I don't want to watch the show Survivor but in space. I want to see them explore new worlds and adventure. This is not what Stargate is/was.

[Villa]

Needs more action. Far more action.
Unfortunately, they don't have enough ammo or expendable characters for proper violent action.

[spitss]

Any good?

yes

[Jangang]

I am very disappointed. They forgot what the original was all about. It's a fucking drama fest. I don't want to watch the show Survivor but in space. I want to see them explore new worlds and adventure. This is not what Stargate is/was.

Give it time. They've barely introduced the characters and setting, and got things in order on the ship. I'm sure it'll pickup from here.

Not every episode can be about getting water and energy. Enemies will have to introduced in the coming episodes, and things should pick up in that regard.

[lafayette]

Needs more action. Far more action.
Unfortunately, they don't have enough ammo or expendable characters for proper violent action.

Thats a good point, but there is always the potential for epic space battles, once the ship is fixed that is.

[Brainfreeze]

Not every episode can be about getting water and energy. Enemies will have to introduced in the coming episodes, and things should pick up in that regard.

I'm not holding my breath. From what I gather on the interwebs there is simply more drama to come, and the only "enemy" (supposedly featured towards the end of the season), is going to be the Lucian Alliance. All in all pretty lame in my book.

[Death's Chill]

How's the Lucien alliance going to be a threat if they're billions of light years away?

[Brainfreeze]

Communication stones. (yeah, lol..)

[Laxe]

well i hope that there will be more orai :))) they kicked ass

[Death's Chill]

Communication stones. (yeah, lol..)

So they're going to talk the SGU team to death? :lmao:

[Wonderboy2402]

The unfortunate reality is, that I don't think they can afford to drawl out the action till later in the season. They really need to hook the viewers with the first 6 episode or season one. They are fighting a uphill battle if they plan to "build up" the show and save alot of the more interesting story/action for later.

How often are shows (even good ones) canceled after the first or part way through the second season. Tons. Especially science fiction ones. Alot of them were fairly decent: Firefly, Jeremiah, Space Above and Beyond, Jericho...

And the fact is, if a good portion of FAN base is not liking what they are seeing, what chance does it really have if the viewers are dropping off each episode? Remember how Stat Trek Enterprise was received by alot of the Trekkie community (granted they are a fickle bunch and each has there favorite ST series). Who will fight for its cause when the show is up for season renewal if not the devoted fans?

[ejnomad07]

Give it time. They've barely introduced the characters and setting, and got things in order on the ship. I'm sure it'll pickup from here.

Not every episode can be about getting water and energy. Enemies will have to introduced in the coming episodes, and things should pick up in that regard.

That's what I'm saying to myself, but the first Stargate did not have this problem nor many other series. Normally after....6 episodes? you are getting the basic idea for how the season is going to play out. The show's about action and adventure and exploring the unknown. They have done little of that and the first alien species they discovered was shoved off the ship with maybe 5 minutes of showtime. Hell, they didn't even try to communicate with it. What shit is that?

So they're going to talk the SGU team to death? :lmao:


Well I wish them the best of luck. They have to compete with the SGU team talking themselves to death first.

[Sqarak]

Haven't seen a single episode, but from what I'm reading here SGU tries to be more than it should be. It almost sounds as if it wants to be considered serious instead of playful and adventurous.

[Badem]

I quite like it, ust watched the episode Water?

BTW did anyone else notice the end of episode 2 (1 being the pilot) where an unknown ship detetched itself from the rear of Destiny and flew off?

factor in that they have barely explored any of the ship, there are no 'Uber' Bad guys and they have no idea where they are going

I am gonna keep watching it, I download it on Saturday from US viewing and it puts me a few days ahead of UK viewing except I dont have to watch 20 mins of adverts inserted into it

[Nevron]

They should have stopped at the first movie with Kurt Russell.

[Villa]

I quite like it, ust watched the episode Water?

BTW did anyone else notice the end of episode 2 (1 being the pilot) where an unknown ship detetched itself from the rear of Destiny and flew off?

factor in that they have barely explored any of the ship, there are no 'Uber' Bad guys and they have no idea where they are going

I am gonna keep watching it, I download it on Saturday from US viewing and it puts me a few days ahead of UK viewing except I dont have to watch 20 mins of adverts inserted into it
ILLEGAL DOWNLOAD ALERT!
Also, BROKEN CAPS LOCK ALERT!

And yes, I too noticed the ship detaching and flying away. Do you think we should get a prize for that?

[Laxe]

just finished watching first Startreck enterprise season, and i fucking love it reminds me allot of good old SG1

[Villa]

just finished watching first Startreck enterprise season, and i fucking love it reminds me allot of good old SG1

Enterprise was underrated.

[FireCrusher.]

Enterprise was a 5, Voyager a 1.5 and what's come out of SGU deserves nothing more than a 6.

[Wonderboy2402]

I watched a bit of enterprise during the first season, mostly just to see how alot of the tech of star trek came to be...

I lost interest though soon after. Though I remember flipping through channel and catching some episode about 2 crew being stranded on a planet in a swamp and the male character ordering the woman to go collect firewood because "I am the king of the swamp!"... That was some good writing, lol.

[Death's Chill]

Enterprise was a 5, Voyager a 1.5 and what's come out of SGU deserves nothing more than a 6.

Voyager getting a 1.5? You got to be kidding me.

[Laxe]

After todays epic fail episode wont download others... cmon 7th fucking episode and it has nothing developed.... same as SGA first 2-3 episodes and last 2 episodes watchable from whole season... what a shame :mad:

[Rossco]

After todays epic fail episode wont download others... cmon 7th fucking episode and it has nothing developed.... same as SGA first 2-3 episodes and last 2 episodes watchable from whole season... what a shame :mad:

The next episode is supposed to have some actual adventuring in it, maybe that'll be interesting. I do agree, though, that it's been way too slow so far.

[Villa]

OK, well episode 7 had one of the best things I've ever seen.
Lou Diamond Phillips waking up to find his penis inside the vagina of the wife of his arch rival.
That was fucking amazing.
Even better when he turns up at her house again at the end for some more sexy time.

Oh should I have spoliered that?

[FireCrusher!]

Voyager getting a 1.5? You got to be kidding me.

Well yeah, you are right.. I should've given it something closer to a 0 but I mean they did put some effort into it.... I uhm.. I think.........

OK, well episode 7 had one of the best things I've ever seen.
Lou Diamond Phillips waking up to find his penis inside the vagina of the wife of his arch rival.
That was fucking amazing.
Even better when he turns up at her house again at the end for some more sexy time.

Oh should I have spoliered that?

That was probably the best thing that's come out of this series.:rolleyes:

[AmonDominus]

I miss the good old SG-1 and SGA. SGU is just pure boredom.

[Swing]

OK, well episode 7 had one of the best things I've ever seen.
Lou Diamond Phillips waking up to find his penis inside the vagina of the wife of his arch rival.
That was fucking amazing.
Even better when he turns up at her house again at the end for some more sexy time.

Oh should I have spoliered that?

Bet they already had an affair at somepoint, which is why he's come back and why she wasn't too adverse to shagging a different body.

[Drasked]

SGU has potential.. BSG already played it's cards and ended up to be the bold and the beautiful in space.

[Sqarak]

SGU has potential.. BSG already played it's cards and ended up to be the bold and the beautiful in space.


BSG went from "who is a cylon?" to "who isn't a cylon and why should we still give a rats ass?"

[katahlyn]

I like Atlantis better. :p

Last episode if SG Universe was so boring I fast forwarded like half of it...

[katahlyn]

BSG went from "who is a cylon?" to "who isn't a cylon and why should we still give a rats ass?"

And despite that BSG was still fucking sweet.

[Brainfreeze]

OK, well episode 7 had one of the best things I've ever seen.
Lou Diamond Phillips waking up to find his penis inside the vagina of the wife of his arch rival.
That was fucking amazing.
Even better when he turns up at her house again at the end for some more sexy time.

That scene was funny, I have to admit. The downside of that, is that the focus wasn't so much on the funny part and I can see at least 2 or 3 episodes being done about how these events will unfold.. Yay.

And, shit. I fell asleep twice during that episode, I laughed really hard once when people on screen were crying and I appear to be using the phrases "no way" and "come on" a lot more frequently while watching this show.

Come on.. ffs.. Dr. Rush having the same battles with Telford again and again and again:

Telford: Do something silly because I'm the character you shouldn't like.
Rush: No.
Telford: Why not?
Rush: Because the ship will blow up.
Telford: Do it anyway.
Everyone else: Rush is up to something (we hear this at least once in each episode, I think we will find out what he's up to in season 48, looking at the speed it's progressing).

And help.. Senator's daughter: I miss dad, whaaaaaaaa. She stole my boyfriend, whaaaaa! At this point I had to make sure I didn't accidentally press some buttons on my remote, switching it to some soap opera when I fell asleep earlier.

I fear I might not make it to episode 10.. Episode 7, out of 40 minutes, featured 38 minutes and 30 seconds of drama, 1 minute and 28 seconds of "action" and 2 seconds of humor.

[Xandar464]

What a boring piece of crap... :(

[Villa]

The only reason I am watching this at all is due to the lack of any other new sci fi series.

I might start watching The Fringe shortly as I hear this is entertaining, if not quite sci fi.

[lafayette]

I started out enjoying it, but it is slowly losing my attention.

If i dont see some space battles, or new aliens enemies, or at least Eli spying on Sgt double dees with the camera ball some more, i may just stop watching it.

[Nevron]

My summary of the show:

WTF, an old ship.

OMG we're out of water.

Fuck, this planet has no water.

Wait, this planet does have water - this whirlwind of nonsense formed a face and showed me water.

Yay, we're good to go, but how the fuck do we steer?!

Fuck, we're all going to die, we're headed straight for a star.

There's a shuttle, 15 people can live.

We're gonna diiiiiie....we're still alive WTF.

OMG solar ship FTW.

Hey shuttle, come back!

Can't, you're too fast!

Do that shit you saw in Armageddon and slingshot yourselves.

Sweet, we're all alive.

Fuck, the water is disappearing.

It's ok, here's an ice planet.

Fuck, the ice is toxic..

Wait, frozen waterfall is awesomely not toxic while the rest of the planet is.

WTF, the bees from Candyman are what's stealing the water.

Guys don't move, they're from Pitch Black and can't see you if you don't move, we're sending them through the gate AT you.

Please don't see me please don't see me please don't see me.

We see you bitch, but we don't care we're on an ice planet. Peace out.

[Villa]

My summary of the show:

WTF, an old ship.

OMG we're out of water.

Fuck, this planet has no water.

Wait, this planet does have water - this whirlwind of nonsense formed a face and showed me water.

Yay, we're good to go, but how the fuck do we steer?!

Fuck, we're all going to die, we're headed straight for a star.

There's a shuttle, 15 people can live.

We're gonna diiiiiie....we're still alive WTF.

OMG solar ship FTW.

Hey shuttle, come back!

Can't, you're too fast!

Do that shit you saw in Armageddon and slingshot yourselves.

Sweet, we're all alive.

Fuck, the water is disappearing.

It's ok, here's an ice planet.

Fuck, the ice is toxic..

Wait, frozen waterfall is awesomely not toxic while the rest of the planet is.

WTF, the bees from Candyman are what's stealing the water.

Guys don't move, they're from Pitch Black and can't see you if you don't move, we're sending them through the gate AT you.

Please don't see me please don't see me please don't see me.

We see you bitch, but we don't care we're on an ice planet. Peace out.
Dude, that was SO last week.
You need to incorporate the body swapping wife shagging business.
But otherwise yeah, that was pretty accurate!

[Death's Chill]

The last episode, Time, was actually pretty awesome. Finally some real action with sick aliens (reminded me of aliens), rather gory episode too. I love episodes that touch with time.

[lafayette]

The last episode, Time, was actually pretty awesome. Finally some real action with sick aliens (reminded me of aliens), rather gory episode too. I love episodes that touch with time.

I agree, it was by far the best one yet.


Those things were pretty nasty, even got a little teary eyed when Eli was saying his goodbye to the senators daughter.

[Archetype90]

That was a trippy episode.

Probably because of the marijuana.

[BAKehT]

I agree, it was by far the best one yet.


Those things were pretty nasty, even got a little teary eyed when Eli was saying his goodbye to the senators daughter.

Uhm... really? That bitch deserved to die, felt kinda sorry for Eli I suppose.

And it's pretty obvious they'll just go back in time and save everyone anyways.

[Villa]

I hate time travel.
I also hate this show; especially that fat jew kid.

[Rossco]

I hate time travel.
I also hate this show; especially that fat jew kid.

Allahu Ackbar?

[Villa]

The only good thing about the latest episode was the lesbian scene, and that in itself wasn't particularly erection arousing.
Oh and Telford getting his ass kicked.

I wonder how long before this show gets pulled off the air?

[Death's Chill]

I don't want Stargate to end though, I just hope they continue with more episodes like Time, because that one was pretty good.

[Marrik]

i liked seeing all the stupid assholes get ripped apart by aliens. fuck them.

[Brother Justin]

they need to stop with the damn communication stones now.

its really lame