NA Transfer Update October 30th

[Mr. White]

Character transfers are going through final tests and will commence early next week. There will be an official announcement with all the details before they happen. The transfers won't be real-time, it can take about a day for the transfer to be finalized.

Some preliminary information in QA form with questions taken from the forums:

Q: Do quests start over?
A: No, you get to keep them

Q: Will we lose skill upgrades?
A: No

Q: Will the journal stats be reset?
A: Yes

Q: Are we going to be forced to rename our character?
A: Only if the exact name is already taken on the NA server

Q: Will you have to pay for a NA copy during or after the free month of transfers?
A: No, but there will be a transfer fee back and forth between EU and NA servers for those that want to transfer their characters.

Q: Can we change race?
A: No

Q: My EU account is unsubbed, can I still transfer?
A: Yes

Update to original post:

Q: Will I need to get an active subscription on NA1 to play?
A: Yes you have to buy a subscription package on NA1 (also see below)

Q: Can I transfer my remaining subscription on EU1 to NA1?
A: There are people that want to keep their EU account active so it's only by request if you file a customer support ticket AFTER the transfer is complete. You also need to buy a subscription on the NA1 server whether you transfer an active subscription on EU1 or not. The EU1 remaining subscription time is added to the subscription time you buy on NA1.

[Tribaja]

Holy shit.

[Shanerox]

w00t!

[Milo Hobgoblin]

Thanks for the update

[Caelan Ackart]

Nice to finally here an ETA :)

[Keno]

Yesssssssssssssssssssssss thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ScareCrow]

Oh thank goodness, finally the transfers threads will stop...

[Jango1337]

see now was that so hard :p

[thedrumchannell]

Go AV! :)

[stega]

LOLZ 2 WEEKS UP IN THIS B. :ninja:

[Kasmos]

Thank god... maybe all the bitching will finally subside.

Although I'm sure people are going to complain about this:

there will be a transfer fee back and forth between EU and NA servers

Thanks for the update though, look forward to the transfers.

[thedrumchannell]

Thank god... maybe all the bitching will finally subside.

Although I'm sure people are going to complain about this:



Thanks for the update though, look forward to the transfers.

The fee only applies after the initial month, we've known about this for weeks. :)

[xxxFistxxx]

great news

[ghostinthedark]

woot

[Fugean]

Q: Can we change race?
A: No


This.

Posting before the 30+ pages of QQ...

Also, I cant wait to re-activate my eu-1 account to transfer :)

[Kasmos]

The fee only applies after the initial month, we've known about this for weeks. :)

Yeah, guess I read that wrong. I was confused by the question because it said, "during or after" so I thought they meant a small fee initially too.

[Jango1337]

This.

Posting before the 30+ pages of QQ...

Also, I cant wait to re-activate my eu-1 account to transfer :)

you don't have to re-activate it to transfer

[thedrumchannell]

The best part is that it is safe for people on the fence of re-subbing to due so now, without having to wait until the end of their subscription.

I allowed my subscription run out last week waiting for AN transfers, but today I will resubscribe on EU. :)

[shook]

owned

[MileyCyrus]

Well... there goes my character name :/

[Leg enD]

theyre gone next week?!?!

<--- happy

[Enderd]

What happens if you have same Account Name already on NA as on EU, will it let you rename it during transfer?

[kappd]

Sounds great!

Two questions:

Will our alignment be set to 0 if we are currently red or do you go to the chaos stone.

If I want to change my name can I? (say its because there is a space in my name which gms have repeatedly told me they would fix but still haven't and I'm sick of it)

[KoKane]

Well... there goes my character name :/

Deleted my post, sheesh :S


WTB american players bank contents. TRANSFERS NEXT CMON SELL ME UR SHIT

[ISVRaDa]

Incoming big changes to DF...finally.

[Jaeson23]

So we can change our name if we want to correct?

[Wuuz]

IM TAKING DONATIONS FROM ALL WHO DECIDE TO TRANSFER <3 mmmkay?

[Chris Windblade]

MR WHITE;


I hold you in the up most respect and apreciat the update.

You have answered all the questions that have been very grey and for that all i can say is dam man you rock!

I look forward to your next post and eagerly await the notes and tips for upcomming events.

_______________________________________
SoulReaver Tulshar"d"Oloth Invictus

___________________
a uphill battle, I failed to climb left it all now and i don't mind,betrayed and broken consumed by the lies. Farewell to you all, Ill be fine goodbye.

Do you belive in Loss?
Do you belive in Faith?
Do you belive in Death?
now that i'am gone
Forsaken me ashes to dust let me lie Lay me to rest, I've done my best but lost my sight.Turning my back leave me alone all hope is lost say goodbye!
Got to go , what once was me ,once was yours NO MORE
I don't want to be here anymore.scarlet letters.

[Patriota]

Finaly

[Zyclone]

woot! TRANSFERS SOON YAH

[gazarsgo]

The best part is that it is safe for people on the fence of re-subbing to due so now, without having to wait until the end of their subscription.

I allowed my subscription run out last week waiting for AN transfers, but today I will resubscribe on EU. :)

waste 3 weeks of subscription on EU1...?

i'll be losing about a month of my 6month sub to EU1, but it's basically a wash from the 6 months subscription price vs paying monthly.

[Julius Khaldun]

YES! Finaly! Thanks for the awesome news!

[Mr. White]

I've updated the original post to include the following:

Q: Will I need to get an active subscription on NA1 to play?
A: Yes you have to buy a subscription package on NA1 (also see below)

Q: Can I transfer my remaining subscription on EU1 to NA1?
A: There are people that want to keep their EU account active so it's only by request if you file a customer support ticket AFTER the transfer is complete. You also need to buy a subscription on the NA1 server whether you transfer an active subscription on EU1 or not. The EU1 remaining subscription time is added to the subscription time you buy on NA1.

[Mycke]

Thank you for the update!

As you well know many of us were very anxiously (impatiently? lol) awaiting this information.

[lanigav]

Holy shit.

my thoughts exactly

[Scrappy_Doo]

I've updated the original post to include the following:

Q: Will I need to get an active subscription on NA1 to play?
A: Yes you have to buy a subscription package on NA1 (also see below)

Q: Can I transfer my remaining subscription on EU1 to NA1?
A: There are people that want to keep their EU account active so it's only by request if you file a customer support ticket AFTER the transfer is complete. You also need to buy a subscription on the NA1 server whether you transfer an active subscription on EU1 or not. The EU1 remaining subscription time is added to the subscription time you buy on NA1.


I have 2 active accts on NA and 1 active acct on EU that I wish to transfer to NA, and I am not sure if the answer is in here or not, but would like to know if I have to buy another NA Subscription for my EU toon that I plan to transfer over even though my EU acct is still active and payed up for the next 3 months.

[KOS allgriefers]

see now was that so hard :p

This. And Thanks.

[gazarsgo]

I have 2 active accts on NA and 1 active acct on EU that I wish to transfer to NA, and I am not sure if the answer is in here or not, but would like to know if I have to buy another NA Subscription for my EU toon that I plan to transfer over even though my EU acct is still active and payed up for the next 3 months.

sig thief can't even read the answer when it's in front of him? lame...

[Scrappy_Doo]

sig thief can't even read the answer when it's in front of him? lame...

Its a yes or no question...and you can't even answer that and yet call me lame. :rolleyes:

[Pyrostasis]

As someone who has been highly critical of AV's lack of communication, I gotta say, Job well done. Appreciate you all filling us in. We appreciate it.

Only question I have now.

For those of us with an EU account, that are NA players, and want to start fresh on NA... can we transfer and delete? or simply just pay the NA sub price? or do we have to keep our original EU toon?

[KOS allgriefers]

Its a yes or no question...and you can't even answer that and yet call me lame. :rolleyes:

Your question was answered a few posts up and added to the QA in the OP.

[thedrumchannell]

I've updated the original post to include the following:

Q: Will I need to get an active subscription on NA1 to play?
A: Yes you have to buy a subscription package on NA1 (also see below)

Q: Can I transfer my remaining subscription on EU1 to NA1?
A: There are people that want to keep their EU account active so it's only by request if you file a customer support ticket AFTER the transfer is complete. You also need to buy a subscription on the NA1 server whether you transfer an active subscription on EU1 or not. The EU1 remaining subscription time is added to the subscription time you buy on NA1.

An update to an update, AV? This is a dream come true, LOL :)

[Signus]

What happens if you have same Account Name already on NA as on EU, will it let you rename it during transfer?

I am in the same boat.

[valaria79]

Signus~ i believe all you would need to do is make sure the passwords for both accounts are different.

I am in the same boat but I think that would be the solution to the problem.

[SeverinCompte]

Noice!

[Mr. White]

What happens if you have same Account Name already on NA as on EU, will it let you rename it during transfer?

Yes you can rename during transfer.

[Mr. White]

I have 2 active accts on NA and 1 active acct on EU that I wish to transfer to NA, and I am not sure if the answer is in here or not, but would like to know if I have to buy another NA Subscription for my EU toon that I plan to transfer over even though my EU acct is still active and payed up for the next 3 months.

Yes you need to buy a NA subscription to which your 3 months will be added to.

[-fionn-]

I have 2 active accts on NA and 1 active acct on EU that I wish to transfer to NA, and I am not sure if the answer is in here or not, but would like to know if I have to buy another NA Subscription for my EU toon that I plan to transfer over even though my EU acct is still active and payed up for the next 3 months.

He added to the original post saying that you need to purchase a NA subscription and then email customer support and request your remaining time on EU be transferred to your NA sub. So if you activate a 1 month sub on NA with your EU toon and transfer the remaining 3 months you will have 4 months total.

Can keep your EU toon on the EU server aswell as the NA server as long as you pay both subs? At least that's how it sounds...

[KOS allgriefers]

Yes you can rename during transfer.

I know we can change character name if the same name exists but, he is wondering about account name. We can change that too if same account name exists?

[thedrumchannell]

The account names can be the same, because NA and EU are using different clients.

[McDoogs]

excellent, this made up my mind to not resub Sunday on EU-1!

[Steorn]

/splooge

[stingerII]

very welcome news

[shook]

How to get a free name change - make sure someone makes an alt with your current EU name on NA.

[huckc]

An update to an update, AV? This is a dream come true, LOL :)

I could get used to this!!!

[Allanon Farsyde]

Should just allow it to name change regardless, all you are doing is forcing those who want a name change to have their friend spam account create chars and delete.

Seems a bit silly. And the race change, I understand shouldn't be tied to just transferring, but you guys really need to address race changes in general for everyone, hope this is being looked into to.

Besides that all I have to say is.......

ABOOT FUGGIN TIME. Can't wait.

[Mycke]

A good question I think.

What will be the situation with alignment and starting locations, since if people stay red they are going to have big problems if they are started in an NPC city?

[Allanon Farsyde]

EDIT post- Please send a msg on the forums if you have an account available to make a few char names and then delete. Got some guys in my clan who are looking for dif names.

[Pyrostasis]

For those of us on the EU server, that simply want to make a new toon on NA will this be possible?

My EU toon was only played at release, and starting over wouldnt be that big of a deal.

[Kasmos]

Seems a bit silly. And the race change, I understand shouldn't be tied to just transferring, but you guys really need to address race changes in general for everyone, hope this is being looked into to.

I think he means no race changes ever.

And I say thank god to that.

[Zarithas]

Will the EU-1 account be converted into an NA-1 account, or what?

[Jaeson23]

Yes you need to buy a NA subscription to which your 3 months will be added to.

So we have to spend another $50 to buy an NA1 account like when we started on EU1?? Then we can transfer with the remaining sub time we have on EU1 added??

[Reddog]

I didn't see my question answered that I posed in the previous transfer thread.

My NA and EU account names are identical. Will there be an option to change account names during the transfer?

[Allanon Farsyde]

I think he means no race changes ever.

And I say thank god to that.

I don't think he was given that information, since this entire thread is regarding transfers I also think you are wrong.

And I say thank god to that.

[Fugean]

you don't have to re-activate it to transfer

i realise that.............. i was simply stating that i couldnt wait to re-activate my eu-1 account so that i could have an alt on na-1 after the transfer is complete.....

I didn't see my question answered that I posed in the previous transfer thread.

My NA and EU account names are identical. Will there be an option to change account names during the transfer?

it was already answered. you will get an option during transfer.

[gazarsgo]

it was already answered. you will get an option during transfer.

learn2read, he said account not character

[Reddog]

No.. It wasn't answered. I'm talking "ACCOUNT" names. Not character names.

I bought both EU and NA upon release. Both with the exact same "account" name.

As far as I'm reading none of the answers has addressed the issue.

[thedrumchannell]

When Mr. White answered the question about name changes, the question he quoted was referring to Account Names.

Mr. White said, YES, so the question IS answered. :D

[Robert1213]

wow

[Reddog]

I see it now in reference to Signus' statement.

Q/A should be more clear so the entire thread wouldn't have to be browsed. Thanks.

[[decay]]

So we have to spend another $50 to buy an NA1 account like when we started on EU1?? Then we can transfer with the remaining sub time we have on EU1 added??
No you just have to buy an NA-1 subscription, not account.

For example, if you have 3 months of EU-1 time you could just buy the minimum 1 month of NA-1 time and have a total of 4 months on NA-1.

[Majorleague]

Finally! 30 ping here i come! :D

[Archetype90]

Finally, good shit.

[dranael]

Q - will your faction stay the same or will it be reset to 0 and put you in a starter town? Or if your red does it just put you at a random chaos stone with nothing?

Q - is it official that you lose your entire bank contents?

[Geezy]

Thank you Mr. White, Community Team, Dev Team, anyone who made that first post happen.

It might have taken a little longer than expected, but we appreciate the info.

[Dragoon]

The best part is that it is safe for people on the fence of re-subbing to due so now, without having to wait until the end of their subscription.

I allowed my subscription run out last week waiting for AN transfers, but today I will resubscribe on EU. :)

That's not smart, did you read what was posted?. Just transfer when you're allowed and then subscribe to the NA servers. If you resub to EU you have to go through the whole hassle of contacting customer server and all the annoyance that comes with that. Just imagine how many people will be doing the same thing at the same time.

[Kaerion]

Congrats to the American people, you will be finally at home. I want to tell you goodbye and thx for the great moments that your clans brought to EU1.

Darkfall is now starting again. We will see how it ends :P.

[Cyric1966]

Thanks for the info! I cant wait to play again.

[Kasmos]

Or if your red does it just put you at a random chaos stone with nothing?


That would be fucking hysterical. NA-1 zergs camping chaos stones for all the red PKers coming into the server. Hahahaha.....


I don't think he was given that information, since this entire thread is regarding transfers I also think you are wrong.

And I say thank god to that.

I'd put my entire bank contents up for wager that they won't allow race changes, why the hell would they? Because they are making racial abilities? Ooohhh.... who gives a shit? Should they allow race changes if they add MORE racial abilities in an upcoming expansion?

They'd be basically opening themselves up for people bitching for race changes every time they ever change anything in the game related to races, and I doubt they're that fucking stupid.

[Dragoon]

A good question I think.

What will be the situation with alignment and starting locations, since if people stay red they are going to have big problems if they are started in an NPC city?

Big problems like dying naked to towers and then respawning at a chaos point? :rolleyes:

You lose your journal stats so most likely you'll lose your alignment since technically you wont have any kills on your record.

[schlock]

What happens if you have same Account Name already on NA as on EU, will it let you rename it during transfer?

This.
Answer this question and I believe you have all bases covered.

Thanks for the update, much appreciated.

[Mushukyou]

So it looks like I have to find somebody who already has an NA account to make a character with my same name so that when I do transfer to NA, I can change my name, which I've been dying to do.

They should just allow that feature by default, but oh well, they want to make it hard for us.

Secondly, I went to sub on NA, and it wanted me to buy for $50. I guess the option to sub on NA without paying the $50 won't become active until transfer time, is that correct?

Thanks.

[Satan_Ace]

fuck.

[neon sheild]

w00t!
they're nearly here!
I'm sooo excited!
Sounds great!

[Allanon Farsyde]

That would be fucking hysterical. NA-1 zergs camping chaos stones for all the red PKers coming into the server. Hahahaha.....



I'd put my entire bank contents up for wager that they won't allow race changes, why the hell would they? Because they are making racial abilities? Ooohhh.... who gives a shit? Should they allow race changes if they add MORE racial abilities in an upcoming expansion?

They'd be basically opening themselves up for people bitching for race changes every time they ever change anything in the game related to races, and I doubt they're that fucking stupid.

Not going to dirty this thread by owning you with valid arguements, just know that because you think something is stupid, doesn't mean it actually is you inept fuck.

[Oxll]

Finally the announcement we all been waiting for. In the future use weekly updates for major updates such as transfers. Should make things smoother and avoid people blowing up on the mods.

[Sanshi44]

Finally! 30 ping here i come! :D

finaly low 200 ping : P beat this 400-500

[DwellerBelow]

Should just allow it to name change regardless, all you are doing is forcing those who want a name change to have their friend spam account create chars and delete.

Seems a bit silly. And the race change, I understand shouldn't be tied to just transferring, but you guys really need to address race changes in general for everyone, hope this is being looked into to.

Besides that all I have to say is.......

ABOOT FUGGIN TIME. Can't wait.

Race changes are critical, but not until they put all racial abilities in, and then 'balance' them.

[DwellerBelow]

So it looks like I have to find somebody who already has an NA account to make a character with my same name so that when I do transfer to NA, I can change my name, which I've been dying to do.

They should just allow that feature by default, but oh well, they want to make it hard for us.

Secondly, I went to sub on NA, and it wanted me to buy for $50. I guess the option to sub on NA without paying the $50 won't become active until transfer time, is that correct?

Thanks.

Wow, your reading skills suck.

Here, try again:

Yes you can rename during transfer.

[Darkparasycte]

Wow, your reading skills suck.

Here, try again:

And that was an answer to this question
What happens if you have same Account Name already on NA as on EU, will it let you rename it during transfer?

This only describes and scenario in which the name is already taken on NA. So we will be forced to change if it is taken. What this does not answer however is whether we will all get the option to change our name regardless if it is taken or not.

[Drathe]

I thought I'd never see the day.

[Erendir]

yay, finally the eu population will wither away. congratulations on putting the NA server in the least logical spot, severing the connection between NA and EU mixed clans!

[TNoD]

My question is: Is our alignment gonna be there still on NA? I wanna know if it's worth it to grind out this perma -100 i have from being in a clan fighting other clanned blues.

[Threeloves]

yay, finally the eu population will wither away. congratulations on putting the NA server in the least logical spot, severing the connection between NA and EU mixed clans!

WHERE DO YOU AMERICANS GET ALL THIS BULLSHIT FROM, I SEE NO LINK TO STATISTICS. NA is going to be as dead as EU-1.

[Threeloves]

For some reason i cant edit my post but anyway,

i agree on your second part erindir

[Marlen]

Q: Can we change race?
A: No


doh, im stuck >.<
anything we can do... besides starting a new char race

[Kasmos]

Not going to dirty this thread by owning you with valid arguements, just know that because you think something is stupid, doesn't mean it actually is you inept fuck.

What, because they are adding racial abilities that most of us thought were going to be in at launch we should get a race change?

What?

Good job calling me an inept fuck, you're the one asking for something fucking ridiculous. Why, oh mighty one, should we get a race change? Because they're adding in racial abilities?

Shut the fuck up asshole.

[Sarphus]

AWESOME!

I'm so glad we don't lose status of our quests and specializations. That is a substantial cost

[grimfees]

That would be fucking hysterical. NA-1 zergs camping chaos stones for all the red PKers coming into the server. Hahahaha.....



I'd put my entire bank contents up for wager that they won't allow race changes, why the hell would they? Because they are making racial abilities? Ooohhh.... who gives a shit? Should they allow race changes if they add MORE racial abilities in an upcoming expansion?

They'd be basically opening themselves up for people bitching for race changes every time they ever change anything in the game related to races, and I doubt they're that fucking stupid.

qft

[Mushukyou]

Wow, your reading skills suck.

Here, try again:


You failed, buddy. That response was out of context in the way you attempted to apply it to my question.

My questions/concerns are still open for answers/explanations.

[Griffter]

So long suck town!!!!

[RedrumsSam]

So long suck town!!!!

Hell Yeah!


Really, though, thanks for the hospitality, Euros. You all seem like Giant duchebags from the posts on the forums, but every euro I've met in game has been pretty cool. So long guys, good luck!

[Ighox]

What, because they are adding racial abilities that most of us thought were going to be in at launch we should get a race change?

What?

Good job calling me an inept fuck, you're the one asking for something fucking ridiculous. Why, oh mighty one, should we get a race change? Because they're adding in racial abilities?

Shut the fuck up asshole.
Why not? How does this "stupid idea" affect anyone's enjoyment of the game? If anything, it increases it for most people.
1 race-change per account and that's it, wouldn't hurt you at all.
It's not really about them adding racial abilities, it's that most people didn't really know the strengths/weaknesses about their races when they started.
Different sized hitboxes, different reach and shit like that.
You think it's rediculous just because you're happy with your choice and doesn't want to change, I get that but that's not really reason to be an idiot while discussing the subject, fucking cuntmuscle.

(Sorry for derailing the thread, bye yanks.)

[Rezwarius]

Do the exact same Naming Rules apply to the NA server as the EU server..

because I know that I couldn't use the name I normally do because EU has really weird naming policies like, you cant use the word Hell in your name.


will I be able to change my name to include the word Hell in it?

[bernieuk]

Greetings all

Perhaps someone may have already asked this - my apologies if anyone has - but what about transferring your account from NA1 to EU1? Has anyone read/heard any news on that?

[Darkparasycte]

Greetings all

Perhaps someone may have already asked this - my apologies if anyone has - but what about transferring your account from NA1 to EU1? Has anyone read/heard any news on that?

It has been said that you can transfer back and forth for a fee. Whether or not an NA to EU transfer will be available at the start of transfers I do not know.

[schlock]

Do the exact same Naming Rules apply to the NA server as the EU server..

because I know that I couldn't use the name I normally do because EU has really weird naming policies like, you cant use the word Hell in your name.


will I be able to change my name to include the word Hell in it?

My brother tried to create an account on US1 with the hell as the first name and it did not allow him to. Same weird naming policies apply. Pretty dumb if you ask me. You can name a clan GOD but can not use Hell as a name.

[Moonias]

Cheers!@

[Kasmos]

Why not? How does this "stupid idea" affect anyone's enjoyment of the game? If anything, it increases it for most people.
1 race-change per account and that's it, wouldn't hurt you at all.
It's not really about them adding racial abilities, it's that most people didn't really know the strengths/weaknesses about their races when they started.
Different sized hitboxes, different reach and shit like that.
You think it's rediculous just because you're happy with your choice and doesn't want to change, I get that but that's not really reason to be an idiot while discussing the subject, fucking cuntmuscle.

(Sorry for derailing the thread, bye yanks.)

Well he talked down to me, so I just followed suit. And no, I'm not completely happy with the race I chose, but that doesn't mean that I think I deserve a race change.

You see, the problem is that you think if everyone gets one race change then everyone will be happy. That's simply not the case. You and I BOTH know damn well if they allowed race changes THIS time, then the NEXT time they add more racial abilities or do anything at all that affects races, those same people whining for changes now would whine for race changes then. They shouldn't set a precedent like that, that's all I'm saying.

[Imrys]

Consolidated list of questions to this point:

1) I have same account name on an NA account and an EU account, can I change the ACCOUNT name during Transfers?

2) I want to rename my character, can I do it during transfer? Regardless if someone is already using my current name or not?

3) Can I transfer FROM NA to EU-1 when transfers open?

4) Will my alignment reset, and if not, will I start at a Chaos stone after transfer?

5) (my personal question) I have an EU Account. I am interested in transfering to NA, but still play on EU as well. If I transfer to NA and maintain a subscription there, do I have to pay a seperate subscription to play on EU1? Or do I need to have 2 accounts to be able to play on both servers? Regardless the answers to all these, and understanding that it has to do with the hosting company or something, why not just make it like every other game where you can make chars on any server and freely move between them?

[grimfees]

Well he talked down to me, so I just followed suit. And no, I'm not completely happy with the race I chose, but that doesn't mean that I think I deserve a race change.

You see, the problem is that you think if everyone gets one race change then everyone will be happy. That's simply not the case. You and I BOTH know damn well if they allowed race changes THIS time, then the NEXT time they add more racial abilities or do anything at all that affects races, those same people whining for changes now would whine for race changes then. They shouldn't set a precedent like that, that's all I'm saying.

qft

[Ighox]

You and I BOTH know damn well if they allowed race changes THIS time, then the NEXT time they add more racial abilities or do anything at all that affects races, those same people whining for changes now would whine for race changes then. They shouldn't set a precedent like that, that's all I'm saying.

I'm not saying they should add it right now because of the racial additions, I just want it no matter if it's tomorrow or two years from now.
Obviously there would be some whining later as well, but just implementing it and giving everyone 1 optional change, people could use it or save it.
The people using it and regretting it later because AV changed something regarding the races wouldn't have any reason to cry for additional race-changes later.

[sk8erj3ff]

Will the transfer be exactly next friday? Or is it sometime next week, dont want to miss it

[Corpsepoker]

Will the transfer be exactly next friday? Or is it sometime next week, dont want to miss it

Early this coming week.

[Darkparasycte]

Will the transfer be exactly next friday? Or is it sometime next week, dont want to miss it

Free transfers will be open for an entire month once started.

[Zarithas]

I'll ask this again:

Does this convert your EU-1 account into an NA-1 account, or do you already need to have an NA-1 account to do the transfer?

[Griffter]

Does anyone know if we have to re-download the client for NA server access? -like the EU client just shows the EU-1 server.... I'm going to transfer as soon as I'm able, so I'd like to download the client if I have to before monday.. can anyone just post a link to it?

[dracoz]

good news... everybody was waiting for this long time...

(tho I think it's big fail... one server whit solid ping crowded whit ppl is win)

[bongloads]

finally.

[bongloads]

Q: Are we going to be forced to rename our character?
A: Only if the exact name is already taken on the NA server







are we going to be given the option to rename, if the name isn't taken on NA?

forced != option

[smr8465]

Can't wait!

[Duuk]

EU will get even more empty, yay!

[kee]

If I pay for both EU and NA subs, can I maintain my character on both servers separately?

[Skinstripper]

If I pay for both EU and NA subs, can I maintain my character on both servers separately?

Great question.

[xpiher]

If I pay for both EU and NA subs, can I maintain my character on both servers separately?

as it has already been stated yes

[Ginger Magician]

I really cant see EU-1 being viable after transfers quite honestly.The active population is going to drop to the hundreds rather than thousands.The amount of players leaving the server far outnumbers those who are staying.

Looks like the game is coming to the end of the road tbh.Unless the expansion is so good that it draws back in a lot of subscribers I dont see a great future for DF anymore.

[lapatous]

as a tear rolls down your eye. You say darkfall but I do think you mean EU1.

[melipone]

Whats this..NA players trying to convince people everyone will move to their server? LOLOL :D EU-1 will be more active I think

[Tibernicus]

According to polls the EU1 server is far more active than the NA server, and most of the people looking forward to transfers are currently unsubbed. I doubt much difference will be seen in the EU pop.

[Mulciber]

I really cant see EU-1 being viable after transfers quite honestly.The active population is going to drop to the hundreds rather than thousands.The amount of players leaving the server far outnumbers those who are staying.

Looks like the game is coming to the end of the road tbh.Unless the expansion is so good that it draws back in a lot of subscribers I dont see a great future for DF anymore.

quit already you professional whiner.

[Black Horseman]

quit already you professional whiner.

qfmft

[Nidhoggr]

If the account name we have on EU is taken on NA, will that be a problem?

[Drool111]

EU-1 will be more active I think

i lold

[Naraa]

If I pay for both EU and NA subs, can I maintain my character on both servers separately?


as it has already been stated yes


This will ruin EU even more than the transfers itself. You will have all the NA people coming back just to crash seiges on the EU server, if it manages to build its population back up. Also, you will have cross server alliances screwing up the servers duing off peak Hours.

If they do allow people to keep theyre developed characters on both servers, they have a) given people a free character and b) fucked up any remote chance of EU playing how the game should be played.

Yet another instance of Aventurine doing rather than thinking!

[kee]

as it has already been stated yes

Got a link for where this has been stated? It mentions accounts, not characters (on the first page of this thread).

[raapnaap]

I fixed it. Try loging out of forumfall (this clears cookies), go to account management and re-assign your forum account (select verify info and update), then log back in on forumfall.

[Quixstar]

THANKYOU AV - I am posting to say thanks for the details - keep it up !!

[FlashTide]

nvm, question answered.

[Dragoon]

According to polls the EU1 server is far more active than the NA server, and most of the people looking forward to transfers are currently unsubbed. I doubt much difference will be seen in the EU pop.

Those polls are inaccurate. The majority of clans and alliances have announced that they're transferring and even a lot of Cairn leadership is planning on playing on the NA server. Every web analytical service I've seen has this forum at around 65-75% NA viewers.

The EU server will suffer not only from the transfers themselves but also from others who either quit or transfer as well since it's no fun playing on a dead server. There's also the carebear effect, the majority of EU clans and alliances are less aggressive and skilled then the NA clans, who wants to fight against "Hello Kitty" or the EU version of Hyperion. Why bother?

[Zarithas]

Many people have asked this, and I'm wondering about it too.

What happens if both your EU-1 account and NA-1 account have the same account names? Will they give an option to change the username of one of the accounts, or what?

[xpiher]

Many people have asked this, and I'm wondering about it too.

What happens if both your EU-1 account and NA-1 account have the same account names? Will they give an option to change the username of one of the accounts, or what?

since you can't have more than 1 character per account chances are you will have to make a new account.

[Laxe]

for 10$ will register your forum acc to my alts active accoutn :lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:

[Threeloves]

i lold

http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=218020

You lol'd because its the truth i guess? Than i cant agree more. EU will have more players than NA period. All you NA advocates troll on the forums saying EU will be death, but according to the poll its far from that. Troll more.


@ Dragoon

Fail more sir, if there were more NA viewers why would the poll show more EU players anyway? You make no sense at all, as does your bullshit about skilled NA players, sorry but from all the skilled players i know its pretty even NA/EU and it really doesnt matter because skilled player is linked to cycling trough R90/100 nukes these day.

EU will have more people, according to your theory the differences are even greater since the visitors of the DF forum are 65-70% NA's yet the poll shows that EU has more players. THat means either NA players dont like to vote on polls/register on the forums or NA just has less players, and tbh i think your just bullshitting around.

Would you damn NA advocates stop your bullshit already and just start playing the game and stop advertisement your damn server for euro's. Euro's play on the EU server, NA's and oceanic players play on NA thats how it should be. And for the utter part, we should focus on a better game.

[Zarithas]

since you can't have more than 1 character per account chances are you will have to make a new account.
No, I have no problem deleting my NA-1 character if necessary (though I'm still confused about the whole process). I think though that this actually either converts your EU-1 account into an NA-1 account, or has a process that deletes your EU-1 account and creates a new NA-1 account with the same character and account name. I believe this is the case because it says you do not need an NA-1 account to perform the transfer.

The issue here is that the username for my NA-1 account and the username for my EU-1 account are the same. So, there would be a conflict when it tries to convert and/or make the NA-1 account.

[Rodcet_Nife]

for 10$ will register your forum acc to my alts active accoutn :lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:

Can I get in on this to? :D

[thedrumchannell]

No, I have no problem deleting my NA-1 character if necessary (though I'm still confused about the whole process). I think though that this actually either converts your EU-1 account into an NA-1 account, or has a process that deletes your EU-1 account and creates a new NA-1 account with the same character and account name. I believe this is the case because it says you do not need an NA-1 account to perform the transfer.

The issue here is that the username for my NA-1 account and the username for my EU-1 account are the same. So, there would be a conflict when it tries to convert and/or make the NA-1 account.

Your account does not get transferred, your character however DOES get transferred. Your NA and EU account names pose no challenge or conflicts and can use the same username.

[Dragoon]

http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=218020

@ Dragoon

Fail more sir, if there were more NA viewers why would the poll show more EU players anyway?

Want to know how I voted on that poll?

"I play on the European server"

I didn't pay attention to the other option. I also know of at least two friends on EU who have a bunch of troll accounts they use on forumfall and they voted about 15 times each. Seems with you guys being so angry that the EU server is dying that you're voting multiple times to rig a meaningless poll. Regardless it doesn't matter, anyone who plays on EU knows that it's a complete ghost town. NA-1 isn't healthy either but even without the transfers it has more players then EU, which is pretty sad.

Would you damn NA advocates stop making fun of the EU server! :(

I don't think anyone is trying to encourage EU players to transfer, I want the servers to remain separate. The EU alliances and clans, for whatever reason(maybe because they lack in numbers of players), have not been that impressive in Darkfall. They only siege on server up and the current EU server is dominated by NA clans with all of the EU clans hiding on the islands. After the transfers you guys will have a chance to take properly on the mainland and wont have to hide on the islands anymore.

[Threeloves]

Want to know how I voted on that poll?

"I play on the European server"

I didn't pay attention to the other option. I also know of at least two friends on EU who have a bunch of troll accounts they use on forumfall and they voted about 15 times each. Seems with you guys being so angry that the EU server is dying that you're voting multiple times to rig a meaningless poll. Regardless it doesn't matter, anyone who plays on EU knows that it's a complete ghost town. NA-1 isn't healthy either but even without the transfers it has more players then EU, which is pretty sad.



I don't think anyone is trying to encourage EU players to transfer, I want the servers to remain separate. The EU alliances and clans, for whatever reason(maybe because they lack in numbers of players), have not been that impressive in Darkfall. They only siege on server up and the current EU server is dominated by NA clans with all of the EU clans hiding on the islands. After the transfers you guys will have a chance to take properly on the mainland and wont have to hide on the islands anymore.

Lol your making a bigger idiot of yourself every time you try to proof something.

I just read trough the list of EU players and i know for certain that about 50% plus is indeed a valid ingame EU based player.

As for the cities, i know for a fact that the utter part is owned by Europeans, so i dunnow where your bullshit comes from? I for myself am in House of Errants, one of the former graveyard clans and thus part of one of the most succesful EU-1 alliances. Yes we did have VAMP(US), one of our biggest and most actives clans, but we also had UN(italian) and SD(Germany plus some other eu countries). As i look at the map now, i think about 5-6 American clans have a holding, the rest is all european based.

I am sorry for you that the NA-1 server is more dead than the EU-1 server and even after the transfers it doesnt look well. Good troll m8.

[Threeloves]

Also stop trying to quote shit from me and edit it, its making you look pathethic in front of the DF community and new players. It adds up to your bullshit.

[Dragoon]

I for myself am in House of Errants, one of the former graveyard clans and thus part of one of the most succesful EU-1 alliances.

Graveyard was an NA alliance. The EU clans in graveyard were useless and all of the top clans were NA clans. Most of the EU clans that you mentioned ended up disbanding and once the NA clans announced they were leaving for transfers Graveyard itself disbanded since the alliance couldn't survive without the NA players.


I admit that 50% of the users will leave

I don't know why you're trying to argue with me, according to YOU a significant amount of people are leaving. How can a server that's almost dead survive losing even 25% of its players? It's common sense.

I make comments about the EU server because my high level character is stuck there and I despise the server for its horrible population and lack of competition. What's your excuse for being so annoyed by my comments? Hitting a nerve? Just ignore it, transfers are in a few days and if you're confident you're right then why whine about it.

[Jaaden]

So I know he said:


Q: Do quests start over?
A: No, you get to keep them


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And they also said that Journal stats don't carry over...

So will I be able to turn in a quest that I've already finish on EU-1? I know I'm not going to get around to turning it in (not going to my racial city to turn it in any time soon, got other stuff to do) will I be able to turn it in on EU-1? Or will I have to get all the 200x 100x 20x mob kills all over again on NA-1?

Also, since that quest is completed and IF it carries over, then will OTHER quests carry over that I'm mid-way through? Like I know I've got atleast a handful of quests where I've got a good portion of the mobs done, but not going to be able to finish them anytime soon on EU-1 before the transfers.

Thanks :D

[Zarithas]

Your account does not get transferred, your character however DOES get transferred. Your NA and EU account names pose no challenge or conflicts and can use the same username.
Sorry, but this is very ambiguous.

The FAQ states that you do not need an NA account to transfer your character. However, if you're going to play your character on the NA server, surely you need to type in an account name and password to log in, and that account needs to exist on the NA server. So, whether it changes your EU account into an EU account or creates a new NA account, moves the character to that account, and deactivates your EU account (unless you use the "keep EU account active" option mentioned in the FAQ), the character still needs to be placed on an NA account, and that NA account needs to exist. And so, if another NA account exists with the exact same username of your EU account, and if you type in that username in the login prompt, which account is it going to log you into if it finds 2 accounts with that same username?

That is the question I'm asking. The only way I can see this being resolved is if you are given a prompt for the username you want on the NA account this presumably makes for you, and it would of course disallow making a username that already exists.

[Signus]

Sorry, but this is very ambiguous.

The FAQ states that you do not need an NA account to transfer your character. However, if you're going to play your character on the NA server, surely you need to type in an account name and password to log in, and that account needs to exist on the NA server.

From what I understand, you create a new account when you transfer over.

[IcyFlame]

Sorry, but this is very ambiguous.

The FAQ states that you do not need an NA account to transfer your character. However, if you're going to play your character on the NA server, surely you need to type in an account name and password to log in, and that account needs to exist on the NA server. So, whether it changes your EU account into an EU account or creates a new NA account, moves the character to that account, and deactivates your EU account (unless you use the "keep EU account active" option mentioned in the FAQ), the character still needs to be placed on an NA account, and that NA account needs to exist. And so, if another NA account exists with the exact same username of your EU account, and if you type in that username in the login prompt, which account is it going to log you into if it finds 2 accounts with that same username?

That is the question I'm asking. The only way I can see this being resolved is if you are given a prompt for the username you want on the NA account this presumably makes for you, and it would of course disallow making a username that already exists.

Eu accounts are stored separately from NA accounts, thus you can have an NA account with identical log in details to an EU account, even the log in lobbies for eu and na are routed to different servers.

[Zarithas]

Eu accounts are stored separately from NA accounts, thus you can have an NA account with identical log in details to an EU account, even the log in lobbies for eu and na are routed to different servers.
Yes, I am aware, but if you want to play your char on the NA server, it needs to be located on an NA account.

From what I understand, you create a new account when you transfer over.
Ok, that would make sense, presuming they give you a chance to select the name of the new account.

[Sarphus]

So I know he said:



And they also said that Journal stats don't carry over...

So will I be able to turn in a quest that I've already finish on EU-1? I know I'm not going to get around to turning it in (not going to my racial city to turn it in any time soon, got other stuff to do) will I be able to turn it in on EU-1? Or will I have to get all the 200x 100x 20x mob kills all over again on NA-1?

Also, since that quest is completed and IF it carries over, then will OTHER quests carry over that I'm mid-way through? Like I know I've got atleast a handful of quests where I've got a good portion of the mobs done, but not going to be able to finish them anytime soon on EU-1 before the transfers.

Thanks :D

I read this to mean that all your title quests retain their status whether you have them completed and not turned in or completed.

The journal stuff I think they are referring to that won't carry over are stats like:
The clan logs from the clan you were in. Your clan status (I'm sure we'll all be unclanned
PVP/PVE kill and death logs
ganks/revives
crafting logs
Destruction logs
Crafting logs
Enchanting logs
Friends, ignore, etc list
Player score list (where you can see PVE kill point scores and crap)

So basically, the only thing that you can see on your character page at this url http://app001.eu1.darkfallonline.com/sf/fwd is the stuff pertaining to your achievements.

I REALLY hope that achievements transfer. I don't want to have to have to re-do that stuff.

[Jaaden]

I read this to mean that all your title quests retain their status whether you have them completed and not turned in or completed.

The journal stuff I think they are referring to that won't carry over are stats like:
The clan logs from the clan you were in. Your clan status (I'm sure we'll all be unclanned
PVP/PVE kill and death logs
ganks/revives
crafting logs
Destruction logs
Crafting logs
Enchanting logs
Friends, ignore, etc list
Player score list (where you can see PVE kill point scores and crap)

So basically, the only thing that you can see on your character page at this url http://app001.eu1.darkfallonline.com/sf/fwd is the stuff pertaining to your achievements.

I REALLY hope that achievements transfer. I don't want to have to have to re-do that stuff.

Thats what I figured, just making sure I wasn't the only one thinking this :D

[Ktorr]

It is my hope that when transfers begin, a step-by-step instructions will be posted for the procedure.

[Threeloves]

Graveyard was an NA alliance. The EU clans in graveyard were useless and all of the top clans were NA clans. Most of the EU clans that you mentioned ended up disbanding and once the NA clans announced they were leaving for transfers Graveyard itself disbanded since the alliance couldn't survive without the NA players.



I don't know why you're trying to argue with me, according to YOU a significant amount of people are leaving. How can a server that's almost dead survive losing even 25% of its players? It's common sense.

I make comments about the EU server because my high level character is stuck there and I despise the server for its horrible population and lack of competition. What's your excuse for being so annoyed by my comments? Hitting a nerve? Just ignore it, transfers are in a few days and if you're confident you're right then why whine about it.

FAIL MORE, Graveyard only had 1 active NA clan you damn troll. I am confident that im right because I am, im just irritated by the damn advocates that pull numbers out of their arse, edit posts like you do and state that NA is going to be more populated than EU-1 which is clearly bullshit. But everybody already understood that.

Anyway, i wont post anymore as im happy to see you leave EU-1.

[Corpsepoker]

It is my hope that when transfers begin, a step-by-step instructions will be posted for the procedure.

A step by step has been posted arleady :P

[draketh]

A step by step has been posted arleady :P


Where? Just like a step by step was posted about how we link our forum account right? Players had to write a step by step for AV since they failed to do it.

[smason]

Where? Just like a step by step was posted about how we link our forum account right? Players had to write a step by step for AV since they failed to do it.

Looking for the same thing.

[Corpsepoker]

Where? Just like a step by step was posted about how we link our forum account right? Players had to write a step by step for AV since they failed to do it.

I guess.

No hate was intended. : /

[Dragoon]

Graveyard only had 1 active NA clan

False. Graveyard was part NA and part EU but it was common knowledge that the NA contingent was by far the strongest. When the NA clans announced they were leaving Graveyard disbanded. Most of the EU clans only had around 5 actives left. A lot of members from the EU portion of GY will be joining their former allies on the NA server.

Anyway, i wont post anymore and the only reason I was replying is because it's frustrating EU-1 is dying

If the expansion is good maybe it'll pick up some customers.

[syryel]

Excellent, thank you. Transparent and honest.

See you soon on NA.

[Zalkryn]

Why not? How does this "stupid idea" affect anyone's enjoyment of the game? If anything, it increases it for most people.
1 race-change per account and that's it, wouldn't hurt you at all.
It's not really about them adding racial abilities, it's that most people didn't really know the strengths/weaknesses about their races when they started.
Different sized hitboxes, different reach and shit like that.
You think it's rediculous just because you're happy with your choice and doesn't want to change, I get that but that's not really reason to be an idiot while discussing the subject, fucking cuntmuscle.

(Sorry for derailing the thread, bye yanks.)


You do realize if you allow race change you might be saying goodbye to most of the bigger hitbox races forever?

[RedrumsSam]

Not that it really matters, but I'm curious, does alignment get reset? If you're -100 red on EU will you be blue on NA?

[Zalkryn]

To the above poster...I have 2 accounts. 1 NA and 1 EU. Both with the same username and password. The reason I can do this is you actually have to have the game isnstalled to 2 directories. So i have 2 different darkfall.exe's. One for NA and one for EU. Thats how the game knows if you mean eu or na when entering the same account name and password, by haveing a seperate executable. Hope this helps.


Zalkryn

[Zalkryn]

If Kill/Death ratio meant anything than this stat being refreshed would be good for some, bad for others...hehe

Personally hope they dont add acheivements/titles like get so and so tilte/acheivement when you kill 5000 Hobgoblins...etc Otherwise we are getting robbed having kills reset. ;)

Zalkryn

[MRBULL]

Dev's Give us update!!!!!

[longclaw]

It is my hope that when transfers begin, a step-by-step instructions will be posted for the procedure.

I am hoping for this as well.

[doomahx]

Will we be able to rename our characters even if there isn't another with our name on NA1? Most people are just having a friend create and delete a character with their name, this causes a problem because it forever locks that name from being used. If people are purposely exploiting the naming system for a name change then they should be dealt with if you will not allow an elective name change.

[Enderd]

Now see when you post on friday saying "early next week", most people would assume that means Monday or Tuesday.... Monday is gone, Tuesday only has like 5 hours or less greek time...

Why o' why do I actaully listen. I know better. Next week means in the next 2-3 weeks, October means December. I just have to face facts until they say today or tomorrow, the time is still wide open.

[McDoogs]

Now see when you post on friday saying "early next week", most people would assume that means Monday or Tuesday.... Monday is gone, Tuesday only has like 5 hours or less greek time...

Why o' why do I actaully listen. I know better. Next week means in the next 2-3 weeks, October means December. I just have to face facts until they say today or tomorrow, the time is still wide open.

yeah they are pathologically incapable of being on time

[Squeegee]

yeah they are pathologically incapable of being on time

As are most MMO companies.

[Enderd]

As are most MMO companies.

This company misses any date beyond tomorrow. Most MMO companies miss some big dates, not every little expectation they set.

[draketh]

This company misses any date beyond tomorrow. Most MMO companies miss some big dates, not every little expectation they set.


QFT. It is now closing in on the end of "early this week". Update please AV.

[Junkaboy]

Character transfers are going through final tests and will commence early next week. There will be an official announcement with all the details before they happen. The transfers won't be real-time, it can take about a day for the transfer to be finalized.

Some preliminary information in QA form with questions taken from the forums:

Q: Do quests start over?
A: No, you get to keep them

Q: Will we lose skill upgrades?
A: No

Q: Will the journal stats be reset?
A: Yes

Q: Are we going to be forced to rename our character?
A: Only if the exact name is already taken on the NA server

Q: Will you have to pay for a NA copy during or after the free month of transfers?
A: No, but there will be a transfer fee back and forth between EU and NA servers for those that want to transfer their characters.

Q: Can we change race?
A: No

Q: My EU account is unsubbed, can I still transfer?
A: Yes

Update to original post:

Q: Will I need to get an active subscription on NA1 to play?
A: Yes you have to buy a subscription package on NA1 (also see below)

Q: Can I transfer my remaining subscription on EU1 to NA1?
A: There are people that want to keep their EU account active so it's only by request if you file a customer support ticket AFTER the transfer is complete. You also need to buy a subscription on the NA1 server whether you transfer an active subscription on EU1 or not. The EU1 remaining subscription time is added to the subscription time you buy on NA1.



Dunno if this was already answered (didnt bother to read past first page...).
If it was, please add to the QA on the first post.
If not, please answer and add to the QA on the first post.

3 ways to ask the same thing:

- Will characters be "cloned" or "moved"?
- I play on EU-1 atm, will I be able to get a copy of my char on NA-1, and retain my character as it is on EU-1 (of course paying separate subscription to each "account") ??
- After transfers, will characters get deleted/blocked from the original server?


Thank you

[draketh]

Dunno if this was already answered (didnt bother to read past first page...).
If it was, please add to the QA on the first post.
If not, please answer and add to the QA on the first post.

3 ways to ask the same thing:

- Will characters be "cloned" or "moved"?
- I play on EU-1 atm, will I be able to get a copy of my char on NA-1, and retain my character as it is on EU-1 (of course paying separate subscription to each "account") ??
- After transfers, will characters get deleted/blocked from the original server?


Thank you


Moved. Why on earth would they clone them? If that was the case I'm sure we'd all make our money back and then some selling that EU account on ebay.

[DaveDFF]

No, I have no problem deleting my NA-1 character if necessary (though I'm still confused about the whole process). I think though that this actually either converts your EU-1 account into an NA-1 account, or has a process that deletes your EU-1 account and creates a new NA-1 account with the same character and account name. I believe this is the case because it says you do not need an NA-1 account to perform the transfer.

The issue here is that the username for my NA-1 account and the username for my EU-1 account are the same. So, there would be a conflict when it tries to convert and/or make the NA-1 account.

You are transfering a charachter not an account.....

[DaveDFF]

Dunno if this was already answered (didnt bother to read past first page...).
If it was, please add to the QA on the first post.
If not, please answer and add to the QA on the first post.

3 ways to ask the same thing:

- Will characters be "cloned" or "moved"?
- I play on EU-1 atm, will I be able to get a copy of my char on NA-1, and retain my character as it is on EU-1 (of course paying separate subscription to each "account") ??
- After transfers, will characters get deleted/blocked from the original server?


Thank you

A: There are people that want to keep their EU account active so it's only by request if you file a customer support ticket AFTER the transfer is complete.

[Zarithas]

You are transfering a charachter not an account.....
*sigh*

I know. But the character needs to be on an account. And the account it needs to be on needs to be an NA account, if you want the character to play on the NA servers.

I've already explained this 3 times now. I just wanted to verify if we'd get the option to name this account (because buying an account for $50 is not part of this process).

[Ander]

*sigh*

I know. But the character needs to be on an account. And the account it needs to be on needs to be an NA account, if you want the character to play on the NA servers.

I've already explained this 3 times now. I just wanted to verify if we'd get the option to name this account (because buying an account for $50 is not part of this process).

In an effort to help, here is how I understand everything that was said on the subject by the devs ...

- Your EU account will remain intact, but without a character.
- Transferring your character will clone your EU account to a NA account
- - - You will most likely have to fill in your billing info, user name and password in case the account's unique identifier is already in use on NA. (Account seems to want a unique Email per account now)

- You will then have to buy a NA subscription
- You may keep your EU account open and roll a NEW character or you may request to have the time remaining to your EU account transfered to your NA account.
- You can rename your character during the process
- You cannot transfer your EU character to an existing NA account

[brockstar]

*sigh*

I know. But the character needs to be on an account. And the account it needs to be on needs to be an NA account, if you want the character to play on the NA servers.

I've already explained this 3 times now. I just wanted to verify if we'd get the option to name this account (because buying an account for $50 is not part of this process).

you are transferring the character not the account

[Zarithas]

In an effort to help, here is how I understand everything that was said on the subject by the devs ...

- Your EU account will remain intact, but without a character.
- Transferring your character will clone your EU account to a NA account
- - - You will most likely have to fill in your billing info, user name and password in case the account's unique identifier is already in use on NA. (Account seems to want a unique Email per account now)

- You will then have to buy a NA subscription
- You may keep your EU account open and roll a NEW character or you may request to have the time remaining to your EU account transfered to your NA account.
- You can rename your character during the process
- You cannot transfer your EU character to an existing NA account
Yep, this is what I inferred, I just wanted to verify that you can fill in new billing/account info, and that seems like it'll be the case. So, problem solved.

[Ander]

Yep, this is what I inferred, I just wanted to verify that you can fill in new billing/account info, and that seems like it'll be the case. So, problem solved.

Kind of sucks about the email thing though, I have 2 accounts on EU to transfer and one already on NA, all 3 currently use the same email account. Looks like I need more emails for the transfers.

When I try to save my EU details, I get "The e-mail you provided is already in use in our database. Please choose another one."

[Quallen]

I loled

This is definitely a new phenomenon, they've never made us wait before =)

[lanigav]

"Community Spotlight forums will be heavily moderated ..."
:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:
roflmao seriously tho AV... its Early Next Week now... what's up?

[MRBULL]

so when is EARLY for the FFS ! ?

[Enderd]

so when is EARLY for the FFS ! ?

To be fair, we should have them define the meaning of words “early”, “next”, and “week”. Maybe something is getting lost in translation. :lmao::lmao:

[Pyrostasis]

To be fair, we should have them define the meaning of words “early”, “next”, and “week”. Maybe something is getting lost in translation. :lmao::lmao:

Week is greek for month =)

[Patriota]

its realy sad, we are in the midle of the week still have no info no nothing,
av should define, "soon" "early" and "next"

[Keno]

its realy sad, we are in the midle of the week still have no info no nothing,
av should define, "soon" "early" and "next"

I agree. Hopefully tomorrow we will see something :P

[Hekkr]

Would be nice to have an updat efor sure lol. =/

[GeneralDraga]

i already bought an na account...so will they transfer my eu character to my na account?:bang:

[Rhade]

its realy sad, we are in the midle of the week still have no info no nothing,
av should define, "soon" "early" and "next"

I'm still waiting for my ability to be able to post in subscriber only forums with an active sub. It was "tomorrow" 4 days ago.

[huckc]

They could have at least not deleted that hilarious rant on this page.

[Narishma]

How did you fix that? I cant post either and I have active sub for 3 months

[Hekkr]

Noobs, you have to attach your forum account to your gameaccount at the account page and everything isb ack to normal.

[Valroth]

I'm getting impatient. :(

[calacity]

Character transfers will commence early next week.

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surely you do not mean this week lol

[Patriota]

surely you do not mean this week lol

they meant early next month.

[JCatano]

Mr. White -

"Early next week" has already passed for Greece.

[Kikker]

I wish they would not give timeframes if they arent 100% sure they can make the deadline. No news is better than false news.

[Julius Khaldun]

I wish they would not give timeframes if they arent 100% sure they can make the deadline. No news is better than false news.

this, and even if they fall behind, post another update that says "hey we wont make the beginning of the week". dont just leave us hanging.

[Dragoon]

I wish they would not give timeframes if they arent 100% sure they can make the deadline. No news is better than false news.

So basically you want them to leave us hanging and not tell us anything?

They should tell us when something is expected and then update us as soon as they can when they know that they wont be able to do it on the originally promised date. More importantly when they know that their customers have been waiting THREE MONTHS for a certain thing then they should be damn sure that in exactly three months they can do it.

[Ragnarok Vanir]

So basically you want them to leave us hanging and not tell us anything?

They should tell us when something is expected and then update us as soon as they can when they know that they wont be able to do it on the originally promised date. More importantly when they know that their customers have been waiting THREE MONTHS for a certain thing then they should be damn sure that in exactly three months they can do it.

I don't know about you, but I think a lot of people have been waiting for transfers since NA-1 launch was announced, back in April. That's about eight months.

[Patriota]

this, and even if they fall behind, post another update that says "hey we wont make the beginning of the week". dont just leave us hanging.

This.

[Demise1]

transfers here yet?

[Mourne]

I don't know about you, but I think a lot of people have been waiting for transfers since NA-1 launch was announced, back in April. That's about eight months.

This too.

[Pyrostasis]

transfers here yet?

Nope, apparently not

[[LoD] EE]

transfers here yet?

When they are here you will see a post in the news forum, until then, no need to post asking if they are here yet.

[Jaeson23]

I don't know about you, but I think a lot of people have been waiting for transfers since NA-1 launch was announced, back in April. That's about eight months.

This...

[FastEddy]

Bump!!!!

[Cyric1966]

I don't know about you, but I think a lot of people have been waiting for transfers since NA-1 launch was announced, back in April. That's about eight months.

ummm,try since March after my first 30 days was up on the laggy Euro server.

[Pyrostasis]

ummm,try since March after my first 30 days was up on the laggy Euro server.

My guild and I are in that same boat.

[Hekkr]

wehhhhhhhhhhhh. i play on US1 with a ping of 150. who gives a shit

[Pyrostasis]

wehhhhhhhhhhhh. i play on US1 with a ping of 150. who gives a shit

try playing with a ping of 250+

[Eleventy]

I don't know about you, but I think a lot of people have been waiting for transfers since NA-1 launch was announced, back in April. That's about eight months.

april? most have been waiting since march or february (those that havent quit already)

[Dragoon]

wehhhhhhhhhhhh. i play on US1 with a ping of 150. who gives a shit

It's not only about ping. The EU server is just pure bad.

[bmsbob]

It's not only about ping. The EU server is just pure bad.

that might have something to do with the fact there was dupping in the game as late as August and they coudn't fix it. Early on like up till March there was program going around that made it really easy and they refused to do bank whipes.

[Glaive]

It's not only about ping. The EU server is just pure bad.

you're bad

[MeatCurtains]

ummm,try since March after my first 30 days was up on the laggy Euro server.
lol...the Server isn't laggy. YOU are laggy. I'm fine on EU-1...got an average ping of 30 ;)

[MRBULL]

Starting to think the Community "spotlight" is getting as worst as AV

[ReddogTN]

We have to wait another week? WTF AV This the 3rd time you bump it. Start holdding to youre fucking word! I spent almost everything i have, I most people i know. Wtf we soppouse to do know just hag around till you decide we can go. Which be month or 2 the way youre going, And patch wil be Christmas Before we see it. MAN WTF!!

[Alan theSad]

Apparently "early next week" is not universal? I was under the impression that Sunday was the first day of the week and Saturday was the last. Wednesday (hump day) is in the middle of the week, and everything else is the end of the week. Are we receiving information via a Julian Calendar as opposed to a Gregorian Calendar? I must again revert to my continuous posting of the following: " Test it before you release info about it" have it working before you even get people excited about it. Only announce major changes, such as transfers, after they have been tested, retested and tested again. Then, instead of telling us weeks/months in advance, tell us during the maintainance down time the day of the patch, with complete patch notes (or transfer details about account information). The information flow between the developers and players is a continuous fail. Sadly, many plan aspects of their lives around games such as Darkfall. To be continuously misinformed and under delivered on such a consistent basis is very disheartening.

Suggested fixes (yet again in this post and previous):
1. Test, retest, and test again.
2. Inform the public AFTER such testing is complete and reliable.
*new suggestion* 3. Create a backup server (aka, test server) to allow the additional stressors and unexpected events to be "developed' prior to announcements.
4. When posting notes on development or future ideas, post them as entertained ideas, not concrete information. (you've already created suggestion forums, so don't toil with us by seeing what we do and don't like this way)
5. You will not please all of the people all of the time. But if you advertise it, live up to it and deliver.

Thanks! Stay Darkfall , it will only get better!

[draketh]

5. You will not please all of the people all of the time. But if you advertise it, live up to it and deliver.

Thanks! Stay Darkfall , it will only get better!

AV deliver? That is pure comedy right there. It has never gotten better since they released the game. There was an article on MMORPG.com about the 5 worst MMO releases and darkfall was number 2(number 1 being the worst). I can safely say they havent gotten any better since release with this stuff. Not one bit. HUGE FUCKING FAIL on transfers. Even if they deliver it today, they still failed imo. Going on three weeks late here when they have known they would need transfers for 8 months. Then they said early this week and that has gone and passed with no word at all. Its beyond moronic.

[Maejohl]

AV deliver? That is pure comedy right there. It has never gotten better since they released the game. There was an article on MMORPG.com about the 5 worst MMO releases and darkfall was number 2(number 1 being the worst). I can safely say they havent gotten any better since release with this stuff. Not one bit. HUGE FUCKING FAIL on transfers. Even if they deliver it today, they still failed imo. Going on three weeks late here when they have known they would need transfers for 8 months. Then they said early this week and that has gone and passed with no word at all. Its beyond moronic.

You're a masochist, then, if you're still playing.

[draketh]

You're a masochist, then, if you're still playing.
If the game was bad and I was still playing, then yes, I would be.

[Sarphus]

AV deliver? That is pure comedy right there. It has never gotten better since they released the game. There was an article on MMORPG.com about the 5 worst MMO releases and darkfall was number 2(number 1 being the worst). I can safely say they havent gotten any better since release with this stuff. Not one bit. HUGE FUCKING FAIL on transfers. Even if they deliver it today, they still failed imo. Going on three weeks late here when they have known they would need transfers for 8 months. Then they said early this week and that has gone and passed with no word at all. Its beyond moronic.

UO's release was a LOT more rocky.

People just forget about the bad stuff when they think back to things that happened more than a decade ago.

[GRCPan]

UO's release was a LOT more rocky.

People just forget about the bad stuff when they think back to things that happened more than a decade ago.

more than a decade ago being the key phrase here.

[Ander]

more than a decade ago being the key phrase here.

More recently? Vanguard and AoC are examples of bad launches AND examples of companies that announce things that aren't delivered on time or at all.

[Dragoon]

Starting to think the Community "spotlight" is getting as worst as AV

The community liaisons have pretty much lost all credibility, unfortunately. They start topics with info that turns out to be false/misleading and they don't reply to their own threads when responses are needed. You can't really blame them personally since they only post what they're told but the communication is only marginal better right now then it used to be.

UO's release was a LOT more rocky.

People just forget about the bad stuff when they think back to things that happened more than a decade ago.

Darkfalls release was rocky but most MMO's have rocky launches. The problem with this game isn't the rocky launch, it was what happened AFTER the launch that put this game in its current situation.

[samureyed]

<--- this guy is goin with the flow.. my panties are not all in a bunch and it feels great.... you all should try it! :D

[Jerica_Cerveza]

Update to original post:

Q: Will I need to get an active subscription on NA1 to play?
A: Yes you have to buy a subscription package on NA1 (also see below)

Q: Can I transfer my remaining subscription on EU1 to NA1?
A: There are people that want to keep their EU account active so it's only by request if you file a customer support ticket AFTER the transfer is complete. You also need to buy a subscription on the NA1 server whether you transfer an active subscription on EU1 or not. The EU1 remaining subscription time is added to the subscription time you buy on NA1.



Does this mean we can have our EU toon on NA at the same time????

[samureyed]

Does this mean we can have our EU toon on NA at the same time????

Transfering a character means it moves from one server to the other. If you transfer, your EU account will have no available toons unless you create a new one.

[Holyroller]

"Early" = "Late". You guys didn't know that?

[Enderd]

"Early" = "Late". You guys didn't know that?

Dude wrong translation "Week" = "Month"... :lmao:

So the message translated is "Early next month". :)

[CaptainObvious]

Dude wrong translation "Week" = "Month"... :lmao:

So the message translated is "Early next month". :)

Wrong. They are located in Greece and use the metric week (1 week = 10 days). That still gives them a couple days to come through with these transfers.

[Holyroller]

Dude wrong translation "Week" = "Month"... :lmao:

So the message translated is "Early next month". :)

I've got my fingers crossed that my translation is correct but you might just be right.....

[smoke2000]

Transfering a character means it moves from one server to the other. If you transfer, your EU account will have no available toons unless you create a new one.

are you absolutely sure about that?

I think they will merely copy over the character info on the NA server.

They only have cash to gain if some people keep an EU account and NA account running to play on EU if NA is dead/boring or vica versa.

from that point on they'd simply be 2 different character on different server progressign differently. But if for example you continue mostly on NA and decide to come back to EU, you'll need to wipe your old EU char to be able to transfer back your NA char to EU.

[samureyed]

are you absolutely sure about that?

I think they will merely copy over the character info on the NA server.

They only have cash to gain if some people keep an EU account and NA account running to play on EU if NA is dead/boring or vica versa.

from that point on they'd simply be 2 different character on different server progressign differently. But if for example you continue mostly on NA and decide to come back to EU, you'll need to wipe your old EU char to be able to transfer back your NA char to EU.

"Active EU accounts will remain active; players could create a new character and continue playing." Source (http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=215770)

Also, from my understand a transfer is to take one thing and move it to another location. Otherwise we would call it a copy or duplication.

[Keno]

Sooooo it's wed now, did I miss something?

[Sarphus]

more than a decade ago being the key phrase here.

well UO was the last good MMO...

DF is doing something similar to what UO was doing back then, but with a LOT more systems in place out of the gate. Basically, they took the general idea UO was going with back then and added a lot of the consepts that have been introduced to mmos since then. That's no small feat.

I think people need to cut the devs some slack. They have accomplished something that seems impossible. They recalimed the full loot open pvp model in an MMO after UO sold out and threw it away. They revolutionized MMOs with an FPS-style combat system. They introduced a feature-rich MMO with these revolutionary features and for that reason DF is the best MMO on the market.

People criticize DF constantly, but I doubt you can name one MMO that is better. There isn't one. There are MMOs that release content better, but they are crappy games. Seriously, who cares if your mmo has lots of content if the game sucks?

I think the only criticism the devs deserve is that they are a little overzealous. They consistantly bite off more than they can chew, which causes them to miss deadlines regularly. The end product is always quality, though. Like I said, I don't think there's a better MMO on the market.

[samureyed]

I think people need to cut the devs some slack. They have accomplished something that seems impossible. They recalimed the full loot open pvp model in an MMO after UO sold out and threw it away. They revolutionized MMOs with an FPS-style combat system. They introduced a feature-rich MMO with these revolutionary features and for that reason DF is the best MMO on the market.

My god I couldn't agree more. I personally have not been so addicted to an MMO since UO.

[Laxe]

yes open transfers NA id dead we need faster to get in EU for good pvp

[Majorleague]

....
I think people need to cut the devs some slack.
....

i think we have cut them enough slack already...
i love DFO but i'm seriously getting a bit pissed off at AV. it's always the same thing with them
"x is coming out this time"

*close to release/patch/expansion time*
"we are sorry but we have to delay X because we found bugs"

from my understanding they have yet to keep their word when it comes to deadlines/release dates *whatever word/phrase you want to go with*. so i think they lost a good majority of our sympathy when they keep failing to meet their own posted deadlines/release dates .

[Kiad]

i think we have cut them enough slack already...
i love DFO but i'm seriously getting a bit pissed off at AV. it's always the same thing with them
"x is coming out this time"

*close to release/patch/expansion time*
"we are sorry but we have to delay X because we found bugs"

from my understanding they have yet to keep their word when it comes to deadlines/release dates *whatever word/phrase you want to go with*. so i think they lost a good majority of our sympathy when they keep failing to meet their own posted deadlines/release dates .

90% of good being a good businessman is just doing what you say you are going to do. Its a common saying, but its true. And AV fails miserably at this.

[samureyed]

Im having a hard time understanding why we pay liers...No Resub for me I'm sure no data transfer before the new year they have lost all credability as a buisness

I dont understand this mentality. Transfers are a service that was announced as an added bonus, it is not something your monthly fee pays for.

Its like buying a house with an unpaved driveway. The developers tell you that offer paving for an additional fee and can do it 1 month later as they are all booked up. They end up delaying your paving for a week so you sell the house.

In other words, i dont understand why someone would cancel their sub for any other reason aside from not enjoying the game itself.

Anyways, guys its only Wednesday, lets all relax, we will get more info as soon as they have it im sure.

[draketh]

90% of good being a good businessman is just doing what you say you are going to do. Its a common saying, but its true. And AV fails miserably at this.

Yep and its now 6pm in Athens Greece and still nothing. It is now past mid week for them and moving on into late week. Typical bullshit from AV.