Character Transfer update

[Mr. White]

For those wondering about character transfers we found out that the overall account system responsible for handling them is complete and is being tested to ensure that the process will go smoothly. Nothing has changed about the information (http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=215770) we gave out previously on how transfers will be handled.

We'll keep you posted on any new information on this. The devs didn't want to give an ETA yet but said it won't be long now.

[Necron Wraith]

Excellent. :ninja:

[Grimben]

Any word on how they will deal with duplicate account and/or toon names?

[Patriota]

cool

[_Doom_]

Any word on how they will deal with duplicate account and/or toon names?

This.

And thank you!

[Patriota]

Any word on how they will deal with duplicate account and/or toon names?

as far as i know is whenever you tranfer, you're able to change you nickname, but about acc is a good question.

[Sarphus]

Cool.

I'm also interested in how they will deal with duplicate names.

I'm assuming that by "all their stats" you're including spell specializations, achievements and the status of current quests.

[NightsSentinel]

Many thanks, at least we know some more.

[Indestructible]

woot woot

[Grekko]

Wonderful update.

I would like to confirm if we will be able to change our character names aswell.

[Komma]

I hope name changes wont happen. The odds of someone having your exact name cant be good. Maybe just add an x at the end or something. You should carry your rep with you and not get a clean start.

[coder1024]

Any word on how they will deal with duplicate account and/or toon names?
I think its safe to assume if you're transferring and someone already has the account and/or toon name, you'll have the chance to change yours to make it unique.

Or, if you just want a different name, then get someone to roll a toon on the new server with your name and bingo! free name change on transfer :)

[johnnyc3po]

Can we have an ETA until "expansion"? I'd like to start playing again ASAP, but i'm not willing to subscribe until this new "Expansion" comes out.

[Allanon Farsyde]

Not trying to be a dueche but you didn't address the MAIN question everyone is wondering regarding this-Considering racial abilities might be coming into play, and duplicate names....

Every char when Xferred should be allowed to Change their name and race in my eyes.

No reason not to when you are introducing features that were supposed to be here at launch and still are not in.

[coder1024]

Every char when Xferred should be allowed to Change their name
I think this is obvious, to avoid name conflicts.
and race
no way, unless every existing player on the server can do so as well. there's no reason transfers should be allowed to change race if the existing players on the server are not allowed to do this. Now, if you say give everyone the chance to change race, then that would be a different thing.

[Allanon Farsyde]

Sorry, thats obviously what I mean. Not saying you should need to xfer to change race.

[DwellerBelow]

I hope name changes wont happen. The odds of someone having your exact name cant be good. Maybe just add an x at the end or something. You should carry your rep with you and not get a clean start.

Name changes are needed, mine is way too long. And, I don't really have a rep, so who cares.

Anybody who acts badly, will continue to act badly, and will reacquire it pronto. I guess some folks are concerned about spies, but anybody can just get a new acct if espionage is what they are up to.

There is probably a technical reason that requires a renaming.

[eirek]

Not trying to be a dueche but you didn't address the MAIN question everyone is wondering regarding this-Considering racial abilities might be coming into play, and duplicate names....

Every char when Xferred should be allowed to Change their name and race in my eyes.

No reason not to when you are introducing features that were supposed to be here at launch and still are not in.

If you think you should get this when you transfer then it should be available to NA characters to respec their race if they wish also.

[Reddog]

I need an answer about the duplicate account names personally.

Wasn't thinking properly when I created my NA account with the exact same account name I created on EU when it released.

Sent in a ticket and they couldn't clarify either, guess they're kinda useless. The Devs hold all the power (information) it seems.

[DwellerBelow]

Not trying to be a dueche but you didn't address the MAIN question everyone is wondering regarding this-Considering racial abilities might be coming into play, and duplicate names....

Every char when Xferred should be allowed to Change their name and race in my eyes.

No reason not to when you are introducing features that were supposed to be here at launch and still are not in.

I think this is obvious, to avoid name conflicts.

no way, unless every existing player on the server can do so as well. there's no reason transfers should be allowed to change race if the existing players on the server are not allowed to do this. Now, if you say give everyone the chance to change race, then that would be a different thing.

Ok, to only have race change for xfers is bull shit, I would be incensed if I had to stay stuck with this GINORMOUS hit box.

Ok, sure, given the Age of the Mage, hit box means nothing as aim is not required for AOE magic. But if they nerf AOE ( not magic direct hit damage ), and if they still don't put 4 leg run in the game, then I wanna roll Alfar.

The game wants for race altering items.

[Nunz]

I don't think EU players should be allowed name changed.


Transfers should be allowed to though.

[Nunz]

Oh and race changes for xfers but not EU. Whats with no edit?

[Kasmos]

They shouldn't allow race changes until they make the racial alliances actually mean something in game.

[spade547]

Not trying to be a dueche but you didn't address the MAIN question everyone is wondering regarding this-Considering racial abilities might be coming into play, and duplicate names....

Every char when Xferred should be allowed to Change their name and race in my eyes.

No reason not to when you are introducing features that were supposed to be here at launch and still are not in.

It won't matter unless you STOP using cheats. K thx bye

[Patriota]

I've send AV a ticket like 2 months ago about nicknames when xfer, and the answer was:

"Greetings!

As of now the two accounts are treated separately in every sense, meaning you can pick any nickname you choose so long as it is not already in use.

We hope this answers your question, and have a nice day.

Regards,
Darkfall Support."

I also have asked about race in another ticket and:

"Hello,

No there will not be any racial changes when the characters are transferred."

[FastEddy]

So we still have no idea how long it will be but that 'it wont be long'

So like one week to 2 weeks?

[Caelan Ackart]

So we still have no idea how long it will be but that 'it wont be long'

So like one week to 2 weeks?

I'd say that's a definite maybe.

[Mr. President]

I'm presuming based on the original info that when you transfer it's just the character, not the account, as you're having to pay for a new DF account, it's probably just a matter of entering in what your new account/password is.

Character name conflicts should really be the only issue, as for accounts, you have to create a NA-1 Account to transfer to, so it'll have to be unique anyway.

[xxxFistxxx]

As long as there is a search-able name registry it would be fine.

[Slaker]

Good news, thanks!

[Allanon Farsyde]

Ok, to only have race change for xfers is bull shit, I would be incensed if I had to stay stuck with this GINORMOUS hit box.

Ok, sure, given the Age of the Mage, hit box means nothing as aim is not required for AOE magic. But if they nerf AOE ( not magic direct hit damage ), and if they still don't put 4 leg run in the game, then I wanna roll Alfar.

The game wants for race altering items.

I worded it incorrectly and restated what I meant.

[Allanon Farsyde]

It won't matter unless you STOP using cheats. K thx bye


This guy thinks a couple of us in espenhall showing the Flying/Swimming exploit means we cheat.

Way to add something constructive to a part of the forum that is supposed to be about feedback though, +2 for you.

[_Doom_]

Call me rigid but I think race changes should not be allowed, period.

If you think your race is at a serious disadvantage, you could start an advocate campaign / system of some sort to have it changed, using the suggestions boards and Mr. White. With AV actively listening, I think this would also open up a lot of new activity and ideas.

I may be alone in this :rolleyes:

[Allanon Farsyde]

Sorry bro, we've been playing paid beta, which we are fine with. But we've been giving money for an uncompleted game, this is just common sense to allow races changes I think at this point.

[Ordrek]

Question:

The original thread on transfers by Mr. White had the following quote:

"There will be no transfer fee if the transfer is completed within a month after the transfer option becomes available. You'll just need to purchase a subscription option on the NA server."

Emphasis added. Does the bold portion mean we only need to pay for a monthly subscription, or do we also need to buy a "North American Client (tm)?"

In short, what is the bottom line for those who want to transfer? $15+ for a month (or more) subscription, or $15(sub) + $50(client)?

I would really like a direct answer on this. You'd think it would be obvious that it should only be $15 for a sub, but I thought the same thing when NA first launched and the EU players were forced to buy the client twice.

So, which is it?

Follow-up question if you're feeling brave: If we do NOT have to buy a client to transfer, why not when AV claimed another distributor forced them to charge for the client again? Is the phantom distibutor now willing to give up the profits of client sales for transfers for some reason? If so, why not back when NA opened?

In case you haven't guessed, I'm deeply skeptical that another distributor ever existed, and AV just used it as an excuse to further gouge its customers.

[coder1024]

honestly, I think the only way they'd even consider allowing race changes would be if they decided to go implement racial abilities like the Mahirim run on all fours, etc. and I don't see that happening any time soon if ever. So prob not much chance of race change.

[_Doom_]

Sorry bro, we've been playing paid beta, which we are fine with. But we've been giving money for an uncompleted game, this is just common sense to allow races changes I think at this point.

I understand that, I've been paying right along side you and I see your point; however, what happens with the next update / expansion, where they may add more changes / racial abilities? And the next? More race changes?

I'm simply in favour of adapting and / or requesting adaptation.
It may possibly bring some interesting racial relevance to the game, imho.
With the current lack of Lore and all.

But as previously stated, I do not expect much agreement here :)

[GRCPan]

No reason to allow race change, if you want it you can always delete your char and make a new one.

[DwellerBelow]

No reason to allow race change, if you want it you can always delete your char and make a new one.

Wolf hit box is broken, I *can't hit a goblin w/2h sword*!!!!!

Can't reach 'em, cuz I am too tall. Gotta use overhand swing.

That's borked.

This is a grind game, and in DF, *you can do anything, learn any skill, and you can never gimp your char* I am certain I can find Tasos saying stuff like that, not that anything he says is for real.

A potion, book, etc. that can change your race is appropriate for this game, it just should not be linked to transfer.

WTB Vile Book of the Alfar

[Allanon Farsyde]

No reason to allow race change, if you want it you can always delete your char and make a new one.


I already did that, they nerfed the one I switched to.

[Kasmos]

I already did that, they nerfed the one I switched to.

Out of curiosity, why do you have "Ohh yeah" in your sig when everyone on these forums knows he's a blatant hacker?

[Kiad]

If AV is intent on keeping both servers alive, they should allow character COPIES, not just transfers. That way, players can play BOTH servers and AV can collect 2x the monthly subs. It will make BOTH server's population higher and more active.

For example, if I could do this I would sub both my alt and my main and my trade alt on both EU and NA. Annually, it would yield $1,440 for AV from JUST ME.

[Jerno]

Or maybe you just could go with race you like, instead wanting every bit of edge to cover your lack of player skill. But I guess that's too much to ask of a Housewife.

Allowing race change would be silly.

[schlock]

I hope name changes wont happen. The odds of someone having your exact name cant be good. Maybe just add an x at the end or something. You should carry your rep with you and not get a clean start.

Myself and I'm sure a whole bunch of others who had characters on EU named their characters the same name when they bought a US account. A lot of us have been waiting for our alts.

In short, the odds are high.

[Chris Windblade]

A. Scrub company is a scrub company why would they give out any real info. This has got to be the most unprofessinal busness there is in the game industry. When it comes to info you guys always wait to the last min. Or after the fact and make it a suprize when you shove a cost or loss in are face and make it to where we take it or leave it senrio. There is a ton of questions that has to be answered BEFOR transfers this is it for me after 9 months of putting up with this has gotten to me. I don't see any change outher thAn you appoint some one elese to take the heat. So Fu I am moveing on. Good luck retaining a comunity spe had this same problem with swg and that game is now a pice of crap since no one plays it.

[Jawsome]

I say to celebrate we all agree to play darkfall wasted on the day of transfers.

[Kasmos]

I say to celebrate we all agree to play darkfall wasted on the day of transfers.

I'm with ya, but I'll be high too.

[Kryptodog]

I can't wait for transfers. I will stay on EU and happily farm mats and work up skills with less griefing. Once I feel the need to actually get graped, I can then pay the small fee.

So long :D

[Rhade]

Not trying to be a dueche but you didn't address the MAIN question everyone is wondering regarding this-Considering racial abilities might be coming into play, and duplicate names....

Every char when Xferred should be allowed to Change their name and race in my eyes.

No reason not to when you are introducing features that were supposed to be here at launch and still are not in.

So you should be allowed to change races on transfers, but NA players shouldn't be allowed to change?

Real fair.

[Virindii]

Hope they bring out boxed version of the game soon. Then many new player will come and the server get full again. I stay on Darkfall Mainserver EU-1

[DesirableNotion]

2,000 views. Too little too late.

But, good to know.

[Dragoon]

We'll keep you posted on any new information on this. The devs didn't want to give an ETA yet but said it won't be long now.

Thank you for the update, I honestly didn't expect one. My only issue with this is that they had three months to implement and test this so I don't understand why it's not done yet. Hopefully by "won't be long now" they mean 1-3 days and not weeks or more, considering they claim it's already done and just being tested.

The game is seriously not fun on EU-1 for those of us who have been waiting patiently for transfers.

[Allanon Farsyde]

Out of curiosity, why do you have "Ohh yeah" in your sig when everyone on these forums knows he's a blatant hacker?

He is a guild mate of mine, and an exploit is different than a hack. If you would of said he is a blatant exploiter, my response would be, ya, on EU, we all are.

[DocMartin]

If AV is intent on keeping both servers alive, they should allow character COPIES, not just transfers. That way, players can play BOTH servers and AV can collect 2x the monthly subs. It will make BOTH server's population higher and more active.

For example, if I could do this I would sub both my alt and my main and my trade alt on both EU and NA. Annually, it would yield $1,440 for AV from JUST ME.

If you can only play one account at a time, how would that make the population "more active" to let you copy a character?

Oh, nevermind, you are already paying for 3 accounts per month so they are already making 3x more money off you than they really should.

[Allanon Farsyde]

So you should be allowed to change races on transfers, but NA players shouldn't be allowed to change?

Real fair.

People quote without reading the next page 2 much, really bugging me.

[sweet_tooth]

Think everyone should be offer a race change after we know what the racials will be (if they change from the originals at least).

[coder1024]

People quote without reading the next page 2 much, really bugging me.
well you can't complain too much, you're the one that posted the wrong thing in the first place :)

[Dragoon]

No racial changes for transfers, that's a completely ridiculous suggestion.

I guess they could add something like a "laboratory" shop or whatever that would be similar to the barbershop feature they're working on except it would allow genetic transformations and let anyone change their race at a penalty of -35% to their attribute stats, and also costs a ton of gold. But that would be a feature for somewhere down the line and doesn't have anything to do with switching servers.

[Dragoon]

If AV is intent on keeping both servers alive, they should allow character COPIES, not just transfers. That way, players can play BOTH servers and AV can collect 2x the monthly subs. It will make BOTH server's population higher and more active.

For example, if I could do this I would sub both my alt and my main and my trade alt on both EU and NA. Annually, it would yield $1,440 for AV from JUST ME.

You can't "copy" your characters but you can play on both servers already and do exactly what you stated as long as you're willing to pay two subscriptions. You just have to make a new character with the same name on one of those servers. That's reasonable.

[GRCPan]

Wolf hit box is broken, I *can't hit a goblin w/2h sword*!!!!!

Can't reach 'em, cuz I am too tall. Gotta use overhand swing.

That's borked.

This is a grind game, and in DF, *you can do anything, learn any skill, and you can never gimp your char* I am certain I can find Tasos saying stuff like that, not that anything he says is for real.

A potion, book, etc. that can change your race is appropriate for this game, it just should not be linked to transfer.

WTB Vile Book of the Alfar

So let's allow all players to change race and not only the ones transferring then?

[Allanon Farsyde]

Omfg i made a typo i think race changes should be allowed for everyone you fucking inept s.o.b.s

[Euvici]

im alfar and would love a race change. for one they nerfed my melee reach that i wanted to spec in (even though now I have 100 arcane/necro/fire/gm) still prefer my melee setup. for two everyone and there moma is alfar.

But most importantly I just want to transfer asap....let the fun begin again :D

[Corpsepoker]

Wolf hit box is broken, I *can't hit a goblin w/2h sword*!!!!!

Can't reach 'em, cuz I am too tall. Gotta use overhand swing.


Aim Down a little bit?

I'm Mihirim, no problems here.

[longclaw]

So if I switch to NA I login to the NA account management with my EU account then purchase the subscription there. What if my current Sub on Europe server isn't over?

[Crucible1001]

Finally transfers are soon. What sucks is that someone already has my account name and probably my character name, so I'll have to use my secondary name.

[Rhade]

Omfg i made a typo i think race changes should be allowed for everyone you fucking inept s.o.b.s

Yeah, I just re-read the thread and saw that.
Still, I think people should stick with what they picked originally.
Personally, I think racials in a PvP game is a bad idea.

[McDoogs]

I'd like to be an ork, dog or elf but i dont think it's going to happen. i'll just be happy to play on a good server

[ThunderThighs]

I'd like to be an ork, dog or elf but i dont think it's going to happen. i'll just be happy to play on a good server

u know u want to be a dwarf

[goplease]

even without an exact ETA, can we get a week range? 1 week, 2 weeks etc.

[Dragoon]

even without an exact ETA, can we get a week range? 1 week, 2 weeks etc.

They claim it's already complete and in testing, which means it should be days.

[McDoogs]

when it does come, someone else go first :ninja:

[EKS]

They claim it's already complete and in testing, which means it should be days.

in no way. Its means the actual code being tested. They could find bugs, and there might be some plan regarding when to release it like around the expantion release

[Dragoon]

in no way. Its means the actual code being tested. They could find bugs, and there might be some plan regarding when to release it like around the expantion release

Are you slow or something?

[Ausei]

No race changes only name changes.

And the name thing shouldn't be based off of skills because I just made a new guy on NA and if I'm forced to change I won't be happy.

[Enderd]

Any word on how they will deal with duplicate account and/or toon names?

I also used the same Account name on NA1 as I did on EU1. Not same character name, but still an issue. I read the entire thread and didn't see and official answer to the above question. I definitely want both characters on NA1, so what is the OFFICIAL answer Mr. White?

[reptiliansun]

I think Race changes should be allowed on transfers due to the reasons people selected races back at the beginning- when we were under the impression there would be features such as four leg running to counter the fact that the dogs are eight feet tall with a huge hit box. The NA server stared after everyone new the racial benefits/negatives, those of us who started at the beginning of EU did so under misleading information, I'm not saying NA people shouldn't have the option as well, I'm just saying that as a Mahirim going into PVP the small races have a huge advantage; it's the close to the same size difference of a Mahirim fighting an oak lord, easy to keep an oak lord in the crosshairs and kite around popping that huge hitbox at will.

[Kaang]

So the question i have is if we have an EU account that has been canceled but have a NA account and buy a second NA account can we transfer without re-activating the eu account?

[Enderd]

I also used the same Account name on NA1 as I did on EU1. Not same character name, but still an issue. I read the entire thread and didn't see and official answer to the above question. I definitely want both characters on NA1, so what is the OFFICIAL answer Mr. White?

So no offical response?

[br1dr1ve]

I say to celebrate we all agree to play darkfall wasted on the day of transfers.

How would that be any different from every other day?? :ninja:

[draketh]

They claim it's already complete and in testing, which means it should be days.

Personally I feel this should have been done and launched on tuesday(10/13). Its absolutely ridicuclous that this wasnt done EXACTLY three months after NA was launched like they stated it would be when NA launched.

AV fails with deadlines. I mean really they have known they would need this since the launch of the game. So 8 months they have had to do a simple data transfer and web interface to trigger the transfer. I work in IT so I know whats involved. It isnt really much of a process I can tell you that. I could have written this transfer service in a week.

[Noxide]

Personally I feel this should have been done and launched on tuesday(10/13). Its absolutely ridicuclous that this wasnt done EXACTLY three months after NA was launched like they stated it would be when NA launched.

AV fails with deadlines. I mean really they have known they would need this since the launch of the game. So 8 months they have had to do a simple data transfer and web interface to trigger the transfer. I work in IT so I know whats involved. It isnt really much of a process I can tell you that. I could have written this transfer service in a week.


AV succeeds at deadlines, if AV were an icecream it would be neopolatin. I propose AV be promoted to lovely company

[Nekroza]

Personally I feel this should have been done and launched on tuesday(10/13). Its absolutely ridicuclous that this wasnt done EXACTLY three months after NA was launched like they stated it would be when NA launched.

AV fails with deadlines. I mean really they have known they would need this since the launch of the game. So 8 months they have had to do a simple data transfer and web interface to trigger the transfer. I work in IT so I know whats involved. It isnt really much of a process I can tell you that. I could have written this transfer service in a week.

Yeah it's ridiculous that they waited until the last minute to do this, they basically procrastinated for three months essentially.

[schlock]

Personally I feel this should have been done and launched on tuesday(10/13). Its absolutely ridicuclous that this wasnt done EXACTLY three months after NA was launched like they stated it would be when NA launched.

AV fails with deadlines. I mean really they have known they would need this since the launch of the game. So 8 months they have had to do a simple data transfer and web interface to trigger the transfer. I work in IT so I know whats involved. It isnt really much of a process I can tell you that. I could have written this transfer service in a week.

You sure you have a job? Written that in a week?
Damn dude. I think they were a little busy taking care of...dare I say it...more important things.
BFD

[Nunz]

Omfg i made a typo i think race changes should be allowed for everyone you fucking inept s.o.b.s



How does wanting race changes for only xfers make any sense?

[Uncletouchme]

How does wanting race changes for only xfers make any sense?

At what sad point did you think half of anyone here makes any sense?
Can't wait for the active account players only forum - It will clean up so much bullshit.

[Crispy2theMAX]

So the question i have is if we have an EU account that has been canceled but have a NA account and buy a second NA account can we transfer without re-activating the eu account?

Yeah im gonna second this. I haven't touched darkfall in months mainly because at the time it failed hard but it looks like its fixed many issues and getting better. My concern is do I have to reactivate my EU account and then make a NA account and then transfer the character to that account or can I buy a NA subscription with the same account and have the character moved?

[Dragoon]

Yeah im gonna second this. I haven't touched darkfall in months mainly because at the time it failed hard but it looks like its fixed many issues and getting better. My concern is do I have to reactivate my EU account and then make a NA account and then transfer the character to that account or can I buy a NA subscription with the same account and have the character moved?

They already answered that question weeks ago. They said all you need to do is purchase an NA subscription and transfer the character over.

[Frank sinatra[SUN]]

I dont think a race change is needed, but with all the whining in this thread i think that Sex changes might be needed for the transfers.

Of course there shouldnt be any race change in a character transfer, thats like arguing that you should be able to change race in world of warcraft when you change the servers.

Dont be stupid, and dont be greedy. Alone the fact that you get to move you characters is a great service, and now aventurine will provide you this service which you shouldnt really have in the first place and then you all go "omg i want more more more".

If Aventurine had the balls (and legal department in place), they should go through this thread and everyone who whines here and transfers should pop up on the us server as females.

Because you deserve it :).

[Nalrune]

;3804823']I dont think a race change is needed, but with all the whining in this thread i think that Sex changes might be needed for the transfers.

Of course there shouldnt be any race change in a character transfer, thats like arguing that you should be able to change race in world of warcraft when you change the servers.

Dont be stupid, and dont be greedy. Alone the fact that you get to move you characters is a great service, and now aventurine will provide you this service which you shouldnt really have in the first place and then you all go "omg i want more more more".

If Aventurine had the balls (and legal department in place), they should go through this thread and everyone who whines here and transfers should pop up on the us server as females.

Because you deserve it :).


I wholeheartedly agree. :lmao:

[Cjfish82]

;3804823']

Dont be stupid, and dont be greedy. Alone the fact that you get to move you characters is a great service, and now aventurine will provide you this service which you shouldnt really have in the first place and then you all go "omg i want more more more".



Because you deserve it :).

What do you mean we shouldn't really have this service? Upon launch they told NA players they would have the ability to transfer once the servers where set.. your bright i will give you +3 for your extreme Smarts go you

[KOS allgriefers]

You sure you have a job? Written that in a week?
Damn dude. I think they were a little busy taking care of...dare I say it...more important things.
BFD

Then you outsource it to people that can get the job done like me.

[coder1024]

Personally I feel this should have been done and launched on tuesday(10/13). Its absolutely ridicuclous that this wasnt done EXACTLY three months after NA was launched like they stated it would be when NA launched.

AV fails with deadlines. I mean really they have known they would need this since the launch of the game. So 8 months they have had to do a simple data transfer and web interface to trigger the transfer. I work in IT so I know whats involved. It isnt really much of a process I can tell you that. I could have written this transfer service in a week.
They never stated it would be "exactly" 3 months after NA launch. I think it was obvious that the 3 month indicator was an estimate and expecting it to be exactly 3 months to the day is a bit ridiculous. They didn't give a date and haven't missed a deadline at this point.

[Uncletouchme]

If most of these were told 3 fat ugly chicks would be knocking at their door on Tuesday the 23rd, they'd stare out their windows waiting and then bitch because one of them was actually thin and hot.

When Tasos puts up the "easy" button to transfer is when all get to transfer. Come out of your basements and step outside and look around, but wear protective clothing so you don't damage those little stubby pasty didgets. All this senseless crying and whinning goes good with my morning coffee.

[draketh]

They never stated it would be "exactly" 3 months after NA launch. I think it was obvious that the 3 month indicator was an estimate and expecting it to be exactly 3 months to the day is a bit ridiculous. They didn't give a date and haven't missed a deadline at this point.

Yes they did give an exact date. If it was an estimate they could have said approximately 3 months after. They are 3 days late imo. Its ridiculous.


On the American server: The American server will launch on July 13th. Characters from the European server can be cloned and moved without their possessions 3 months after the American launch. Certain restrictions and charges will apply, to be announced at a later date. In the meanwhile if you want to play on the American server at launch you need to buy the American Darkfall client. More information on the American server will be available in a few days.



Then they re-neg'd on it. Also it still should have been done. If you truly are a coder you know what goes into something like this. It could be written in under a weeks time and fully tested in 3 to 4 days easily.

[coder1024]

how is that an exact date? I read that to just mean 3 months later so sometime between October 13th and November 13th. He could have said Oct 13th and given a date if he wanted, but he instead said 3 months.

Also your estimate is little more than just pulling numbers out of thin air since you don't know any of the specifics with their environment, what's required, etc. More testing == better :)

[draketh]

how is that an exact date? I read that to just mean 3 months later so sometime between October 13th and November 13th. He could have said Oct 13th and given a date if he wanted, but he instead said 3 months.

Also your estimate is little more than just pulling numbers out of thin air since you don't know any of the specifics with their environment, what's required, etc. More testing == better :)

November 13th would be ~ 120 days which is extremely close to 4 months. How in the hell is that anywhere near 3 months. Your logic is really messed up for a coder.

And unless the database if fucked three ways from sunday then it can be done in very little time. They could use linked servers with some sort of database packages to be executed upon triggers(user hitting transfer button from webpage) or create very simple export process that sends an XML file to and FTP location with an import process that poles that location for inserts into the new database. It isnt rocket science and it definately isn't a 3 month job.

Christ there are so few people playing the game now they could probably write a god damn SQL script that joe schmo runs manually. What do we have now 5000 subs at the most? Its like the 3 QA people they have could do each person manually if they wanted to. Out of the 5000 subs total im sure its only lik3 30% that are transfering to NA. Its like WTF. GET IT DONE. JESUS.

[coder1024]

no, the difference is that you assumed 3 months meant exactly 3 months to the day whereas I assumed it meant sometime in the 3 month timeframe. we can see now which assumption was correct.

if they meant exactly Oct 13th they could have just said that.

also they said the system for transfers is done they're just testing it. so I would expect transfers to happen "soon" :)

[extant1]

If most of these were told 3 fat ugly chicks would be knocking at their door on Tuesday the 23rd, they'd stare out their windows waiting and then bitch because one of them was actually thin and hot.

When Tasos puts up the "easy" button to transfer is when all get to transfer. Come out of your basements and step outside and look around, but wear protective clothing so you don't damage those little stubby pasty didgets. All this senseless crying and whinning goes good with my morning coffee.

What he said.

@coder1024, You will have better luck teaching nuclear physics to a camel then arguing logic and common sense here.

[draketh]

What he said.

@coder1024, You will have better luck teaching nuclear physics to a camel then arguing logic and common sense here.

Yeah because using logic and common sense 3 months can mean up to 4 months or when ever the hell AV feels like getting around to it right? Of course I realize thats what it means in terms of AV's promises. I think its bullshit though.

[Eleventy]

For those wondering about character transfers we found out that the overall account system responsible for handling them is complete and is being tested to ensure that the process will go smoothly. Nothing has changed about the information (http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=215770) we gave out previously on how transfers will be handled.

We'll keep you posted on any new information on this. The devs didn't want to give an ETA yet but said it won't be long now.

translation = they need another 2 weeks

[under a bridge]

Translation on the majority of posts on this thread. QQ AV is not patting my PeePee. They dont do what i want when i want QQ. They somehow owe me something other than the liscense to play their game QQ. I am a "hardcore" gamer and i QQ like a little girl everytime i dont get my own way and proclaim darkfall fails QQ. Darkfall is the only game that offers the type of environment that most of of look for. If you dont like it your not "hardcore", as many people in this forum war have proclaimed yourselves.

Personally im glad Av isn't nuttcupping your QQ zerg on thier forums.

[schlock]

;3804823']I dont think a race change is needed, but with all the whining in this thread i think that Sex changes might be needed for the transfers.

Of course there shouldnt be any race change in a character transfer, thats like arguing that you should be able to change race in world of warcraft when you change the servers.

Dont be stupid, and dont be greedy. Alone the fact that you get to move you characters is a great service, and now aventurine will provide you this service which you shouldnt really have in the first place and then you all go "omg i want more more more".

If Aventurine had the balls (and legal department in place), they should go through this thread and everyone who whines here and transfers should pop up on the us server as females.

Because you deserve it :).

Wow, you must have some serious mommy issues.

[under a bridge]

What ever happened to the good ole' days where when someone started sobbing on the forums they were told to go back to wow. Forumfall is getting soft.

[draketh]

no, the difference is that you assumed 3 months meant exactly 3 months to the day whereas I assumed it meant sometime in the 3 month timeframe. we can see now which assumption was correct.

if they meant exactly Oct 13th they could have just said that.

also they said the system for transfers is done they're just testing it. so I would expect transfers to happen "soon" :)

Well you are a pretty lenient person then. Because if someone tells me 3 months I translate that as roughly 90 days. Of course I knew it was AV we are dealing with and I had a pretty good feeling they wouldnt hit this timeframe with flying colors. And just because your assumption was correct doesnt make it right. IMO they still failed to deliver this on time.

[coder1024]

Yeah because using logic and common sense 3 months can mean up to 4 months or when ever the hell AV feels like getting around to it right? Of course I realize thats what it means in terms of AV's promises. I think its bullshit though.
go back to WoW, O.o :) how's that for old school forumfall?
Well you are a pretty lenient person then. Because if someone tells me 3 months I translate that as roughly 90 days. Of course I knew it was AV we are dealing with and I had a pretty good feeling they wouldnt hit this timeframe with flying colors. And just because your assumption was correct doesnt make it right. IMO they still failed to deliver this on time.
"roughly" 90 days or exactly 90 days? I think therein lies your confusion.

[draketh]

And just because your assumption was correct doesnt make it right.

that one is almost sig worthy...


"Right "meaning its ok for AV to deliver when they want to. Not right that your assumption was right. But yes taken out of context that would be funny.


go back to WoW, O.o :) how's that for old school forumfall?

"roughly" 90 days or exactly 90 days? I think therein lies your confusion.
At the 90 day mark they should have at least had a solid date.

Also at least in WoW when you transfered a character they used to tell you you cant transfer again for 3 months. Guess how many days that was? Ill give you hint. It wasn't 120 days.

[draketh]

go back to WoW, O.o :) how's that for old school forumfall?

"roughly" 90 days or exactly 90 days? I think therein lies your confusion.


Interesting how you edited your post in this thread where its impossible to edit posts. See my other post where you say this should be sig worthy. Should we know something about you coder?

[coder1024]

well, I thought your statement about my assumption was funny and was going to give you a hard time about it, but then thought I'd give you a break and not do that after all :) I edited it right after I posted it so maybe there's a very brief window where you can. dunno.

[coder1024]

At the 90 day mark they should have at least had a solid date.
saying they "should have" had a solid date is bringing up a completely different issue. the point is they did not give a solid date they gave a pretty rough time frame of 3 months. the mistake was assuming that had to mean exactly to the day.
Also at least in WoW when you transfered a character they used to tell you you cant transfer again for 3 months. Guess how many days that was? Ill give you hint. It wasn't 120 days.
apples and oranges. that's an automated time restriction put in place by their system not the time it took them to develop and test the system.

[draketh]

well, I thought your statement about my assumption was funny and was going to give you a hard time about it, but then thought I'd give you a break and not do that after all :) I edited it right after I posted it so maybe there's a very brief window where you can. dunno.

How can you edit your posts in this forum? None of us can and when the forums were created the mods told us we couldn't. So I am stumped on this one.

saying they "should have" had a solid date is bringing up a completely different issue. the point is they did not give a solid date they gave a pretty rough time frame of 3 months. the mistake was assuming that had to mean exactly to the day.

apples and oranges. that's an automated time restriction put in place by their system not the time it took them to develop and test the system.


Point taken but they still failed imo. Sorry. If they get it out next week I'd be surprised.

[Slaker]

How can you edit your posts in this forum? None of us can and when the forums were created the mods told us we couldn't. So I am stumped on this one.




Point taken but they still failed imo. Sorry. If they get it out next week I'd be surprised.


You can edit your post.

Edit: yo

[coder1024]

How can you edit your posts in this forum? None of us can and when the forums were created the mods told us we couldn't. So I am stumped on this one.
ever try clicking the Edit button?

[draketh]

You can edit your post.

Edit: yo
I think its people with over 1000 posts that can edit.

[Slaker]

I think its people with over 1000 posts that can edit.

Yeah cause we are so special...not

[draketh]

Yeah cause we are so special...not

sigh... Guess Ill have to direct you guys to the sticky...

Read brannocs post

http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=215343

[Slaker]

sigh... Guess Ill have to direct you guys to the sticky...

Read brannocs post

http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=215343

Ok we might be special then....

[coder1024]

Ok we might be special then....
don't get my hopes up! and if we are special, then stop talking about it or they'll take it away and we'll be reduced to mere mortals again :)

[Uncletouchme]

Mortal! .... Noooo can't wear diapers again...:bang:

Damn I posted again, gimmie my diapers.

The funny argument over the 13th is done - time for a new one.

Oh hey Coder you have a dfotray that runs in asp? Oddly I can never get it to work on my site. I know urs is php but as u have it that shouldn't matter.

[Andro Bourne]

I do have a question... lets say I started on EU server and already created a new account on NA with the same account name as the EU server, will I still be able to transfer my EU char? how does that work?

[Junkaboy]

Nothing has changed about the information (http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=215770) we gave out previously on how transfers will be handled.


So this "Character Transfer Update" thread informs us that there is no updated about how / when the transfers will happen, besides the classical "everything is running fine/has been properly tested and 'soon' it will happen"?

Well, I guess its still much better then being left in the dark.

[Dragoon]

If it were going to be in another few days they'd give us a date but since they haven't I bet they're probably going to be a week or more.

What's with the apologist defending AV for being late once again? They had THREE MONTHS to implement this and have it ready for us, yet they procrastinated and didn't do it... as usual. It's one thing to delay a patch or expansion because it's not ready but to not have the server transfers done on time when they had 3+ months to get it done is inexcusable. That shows that they just don't care and we should never believe anything they say because they just make up this stuff as they go on.

The community staff is doing a good job but there's only so much they can do when they're backing a company that continues screws up so much.

[dranael]

If it were going to be in another few days they'd give us a date but since they haven't I bet they're probably going to be a week or more.

What's with the apologist defending AV for being late once again? They had THREE MONTHS to implement this and have it ready for us, yet they procrastinated and didn't do it... as usual. It's one thing to delay a patch or expansion because it's not ready but to not have the server transfers done on time when they had 3+ months to get it done is inexcusable. That shows that they just don't care and we should never believe anything they say because they just make up this stuff as they go on.

The community staff is doing a good job but there's only so much they can do when they're backing a company that continues screws up so much.

Wow you are something else. How do you know they procrastinated? How many people do they have working on this game? How many of those people are assigned to working on the patch and how many are assigned to work on the transfers? How many of the developers are assigned to other various tasks?

I am asking you these questions Dragoon. I am assuming you must know the answers because you are so sure you know why the patch is late. You think they just don’t care? That’s a very intelligent theory.

Oh you don’t know the answers to my questions? Well then that makes you a complete moron for making this post on pure ignorance and speculation.

Aventurine is a small company with a small development team. The patch they are working on has a substantial amount of new content and game changes. To complete the patch/expansion and get transfers up in 3 months is an enormous amount of work.

Also they said they it would be around the 3 month mark on a pure estimation. They owe you nothing. Your monthly payment entitles you to nothing but a game account and your piss poor attitude and selfish attitude makes you deserve even less.

[Wyndal]

^well said

..and no worries.. i'm not ready to be eaten by all those eu monster creations. i think most of na-1 doesn't know what's coming for them.

eu-1 :: where the wild things are..

[Dragoon]

Also they said they it would be around the 3 month mark on a pure estimation. They owe you nothing. Your monthly payment entitles you to nothing but a game account and your piss poor attitude and selfish attitude makes you deserve even less.

Listen kid, it was not a pure estimation. They said that were not legally allowed to let us transfer because of contract issues with the publishing companies. Which means that as soon as that mark passed they should have had it ready.

Any other company would have had it ready. Stop using the "AV is an indie company excuse!" to justify everything. Are we paying less money for inferior service because last I checked they were charging more than most other MMO companies? It's pretty common knowledge at this point that they lie so defending them just shows how immature and naive your thinking process is.

Grow up, this is the real world. You either do your job and stick to deadlines and build an honest reputation or you get criticized for it and suffer consequences.

[Epicurious]

Listen kid, it was not a pure estimation. They said that were not legally allowed to let us transfer because of contract issues with the publishing companies. Which means that as soon as that mark passed they should have had it ready.

Any other company would have had it ready. Stop using the "AV is an indie company excuse!" to justify everything. Are we paying less money for inferior service because last I checked they were charging more than most other MMO companies? It's pretty common knowledge at this point that they lie so defending them just shows how immature and naive your thinking process is.

Grow up, this is the real world. You either do your job and stick to deadlines and build an honest reputation or you get criticized for it and suffer consequences.

By consequences you must mean the constant impotent whining of people with unrealistic expectations of what their monthly fees entitle them to...

[dranael]

Listen kid, it was not a pure estimation. They said that were not legally allowed to let us transfer because of contract issues with the publishing companies. Which means that as soon as that mark passed they should have had it ready.

Any other company would have had it ready. Stop using the "AV is an indie company excuse!" to justify everything. Are we paying less money for inferior service because last I checked they were charging more than most other MMO companies? It's pretty common knowledge at this point that they lie so defending them just shows how immature and naive your thinking process is.

Grow up, this is the real world. You either do your job and stick to deadlines and build an honest reputation or you get criticized for it and suffer consequences.

Kid? You should be calling me dad. I thought your mother was going to talk to you about that.

As soon as the mark passed they should have it ready? Any other company would have had it ready?

So you have no real clue how many people they have working on this project. You just demand it be done because you pay a monthly fee. You also claim being a small company is no excuse not to have this done and completed by the deadline that you have assigned for Aventurine (it’s nice of you to set in stone deadlines for a company you don’t work for by the way). But the fact is they are a small company and they cannot finish things as fast as larger companies can. There is nothing your bitching will do to help things move faster.

With the size of their company aside, Aventurine is doing an outstanding job improving this game. If you could compare this version of DF to the version I played on launch day, you would see it is quite different.

I look forward to the expansion and realize it is not easy to produce such content. I would rather have it polished and bug free (although it probably will still have some problems, such is life) than have them rush out content because some tool on the forums is crying.

I can tell by your attitude that you probably won’t be around in six months anyways because Aventurine will never meet your standards. That’s just a shot in the dark. I bet even after you quit you will be one of the losers who troll the forums without an active account, if your account is even active now.

[Dragoon]

By consequences you must mean the constant impotent whining of people with unrealistic expectations of what their monthly fees entitle them to...

People will stick with a game company if they trust and like the people running it. With an indie company that's INCREDIBLY important especially with an MMO. When you constantly mislead your customers you begin to lose credibility and you're less likely to retain borderline customers who are considering staying or not.

It would be nice if they keep to a deadline for once and stop misleading people. I do admit that they're getting better and the customer service people on the forums now are a great improvement over what we had.

Also lets be honest here, if you don't bitch constantly at them and complain on the forums all the time they pretty much ignore you and go about business as usual. I support AV all the time on this forum and others but when they can't keep to their promises after we've been waiting for THREE MONTHS for one specific thing then they deserve to get reamed for it. Especially considering that we all expected to be able to transfer on Day 1 and never expected to have to wait 3 months anyway.

Kid? You should be calling me dad. I thought your mother was going to talk to you about that.


I stopped reading your post at that point.

[Tillweed]

People will stick with a game company if they trust and like the people running it. With an indie company that's INCREDIBLY important especially with an MMO. When you constantly mislead your customers you begin to lose credibility and you're less likely to retain borderline customers who are considering staying or not.

It would be nice if they keep to a deadline for once and stop misleading people. I do admit that they're getting better and the customer service people on the forums now are a great improvement over what we had.

Also lets be honest here, if you don't bitch constantly at them and complain on the forums all the time they pretty much ignore you and go about business as usual. I support AV all the time on this forum and others but when they can't keep to their promises after we've been waiting for THREE MONTHS for one specific thing then they deserve to get reamed for it.



I stopped reading your post at that point.


AGREE! Credibility comes from consistency in action and communication. While they are getting better they still need to improve. They need to start over estimating so they can deliver on or before deadlines to improve creditability with their customer base. If transfers were stated to be ready in December and they delivered in early November it would be such a better perception of productivity. Incidentally they would also not have to relay that they hit an issue with accommodating transfers as it would have been resolved within the window they provided. Consumers really don't want to hear about problems over and over that cause delays it makes the company look bad and hurt customer perception. Better to alot for far more time then needed and deliver before you deadlines.

Just my 2 cents...
I really do appreciate the work you have done and I really enjoy the game.
Thanks!

[syryel]

People will stick with a game company if they trust and like the people running it. With an indie company that's INCREDIBLY important especially with an MMO. When you constantly mislead your customers you begin to lose credibility and you're less likely to retain borderline customers who are considering staying or not.

It would be nice if they keep to a deadline for once and stop misleading people. I do admit that they're getting better and the customer service people on the forums now are a great improvement over what we had.

Also lets be honest here, if you don't bitch constantly at them and complain on the forums all the time they pretty much ignore you and go about business as usual. I support AV all the time on this forum and others but when they can't keep to their promises after we've been waiting for THREE MONTHS for one specific thing then they deserve to get reamed for it. Especially considering that we all expected to be able to transfer on Day 1 and never expected to have to wait 3 months anyway.

I stopped reading your post at that point.

I agree with the general point here, though for me it's not the date that worries me.

I stopped my recurring payment to avoid unwillingly paying two accounts for the same month (i.e. a passed EU account at the same time as the new NA transfer account). If the transfer starts next month, will AV tell me I needed an active EU account to transfer? If so, that would kill DF for me. Why do I get the impression AV hopes that many of us will unwillingly pay two accounts (EU/NA) during the transfer month? Without more transparency, I could have to stop playing. Let's say I'm rather "lawful good": I don't tolerate "unclear passes".

BUT, as far as I know, it's not the case at the moment. :rolleyes: I'm just imagining the worse and giving a warning feedback: my EU account will not be repaid next month and I will transfer that EU character to NA. Thank you.

[Brainfreeze]

Right. I cleaned up some stuff here. Please stick to the topic and discuss maturely.

If this turns into childish flaming again, even in the slightest possible form, you'll find an infraction in your inbox.

[Curcio]

I quit the game when I discovered that I couldn't transfer to US servers but now I might actually be able to play the game without having to dish out another 50 bucks! Yay!

[Quickshot]

Right. I cleaned up some stuff here. Please stick to the topic and discuss maturely.

If this turns into childish flaming again, even in the slightest possible form, you'll find an infraction in your inbox.

Love these new mods. These forums are readable again.

[-PiP-]

My NA account name is the same as my EU account name and i want to xfer my EU char to NA, will the account names effect my xfer?

I understand if this question can not be answered yet.

[IcyFlame]

My NA account name is the same as my EU account name and i want to xfer my EU char to NA, will the account names effect my xfer?

I understand if this question can not be answered yet.

best post ive read in the last 2 pages

[Aentropy]

I am waiting to transfer before I start playing Darkfall again...

Can you hurry up? I need to play for school so I can write a paper on the ethics of Darkfall.

[extant1]

I am waiting to transfer before I start playing Darkfall again...

Can you hurry up? I need to play for school so I can write a paper on the ethics of Darkfall.

Best answer ever.

[jimdh2]

Ethical egoism or egotism is the normative ethical position that moral agents ought to do what is in their own self-interest.

Your paper is now finished.

[Xavien Blade]

Ethical egoism or egotism is the normative ethical position that moral agents ought to do what is in their own self-interest.

Your paper is now finished.

Now if only we can get YOU back into English class. :P

[Cyric1966]

Is there a date set on transfers yet?

[Sleepwalkerr]

Is there a date set on transfers yet?

soon.

[Robin392]

soon-ish.

Fixed....

[kil_2k]

Next October.

[Reckin Crew]

Noooooooooo!

[Dragoon]

I remember when the original opening of the US server was delayed because the expansion was delayed, it looks like the character transfers are linked with the second expansion as well so it'll probably be delayed till mid November.

[kil_2k]

Noooooooooo!

Hey mate :)

[Enderd]

LOL, when will we learn? Any date you had in your head add a minimum of one or two months to it. As for knowing in advance, we will know probably less than 24 hours before they deploy the patch/transfers that something vague is coming. To expect any more you must be very new to Darkfall.

[SuperCowOPP]

These guys have been promising transfers for months...
This company is seriously lucky people are such fans of the game because they are horrible at meeting deadlines and I don't think people would keep playing were this a different mmo.

[Nyteblaed]

the simple fact is that a huge percentage of the EU players will have OP stats because they were able to exploit game mechanics early on before these things were fixed (walking on acid to get 100 rigor in a few hours, maxxing harvesting skills by getting shot while gathering...several other big screw-ups).

even if they didnt exploit, they have had months longer to get their stats up.

this is going to make the game suck for players on the NA server currently. if you make it so that NA players are suddenly way out-gunned, you are going to lose a lot of players. why the hell should we stay on if we get betrayed like that? we did everything right, played just as well as the EU players, but they get to come over and take our cities and gear because they happen to have been on EU servers? that seems arbitrary and disrespectful. what is this, punishment for 8 years of George W Bush? its not our fault! half of us cant even vote!!

seriously though,

i think that transfer players should have to give up a certain fraction of their skill and stat points. maybe even let them decide how to allocate that loss. but to let them come onto NA with full stats is BS.

also, they should definitely NOT get any special priviledges like name changes and race changes. WTF is that about? they should have to carry their rep with them and i dont even understand the logic behind race chanegs, thats just weak.

[Cyric1966]

why the hell should we stay on if we get betrayed like that? we did everything right, played just as well as the EU players, but they get to come over and take our cities and gear because they happen to have been on EU servers? that seems arbitrary and disrespectful. .

What about the North Americans who only played on EU because they were promised they would eventually get to transfer to the NA server when it went live?

[Walking Target]

It's all relative. It sucks for a new player starting today relative to those who have been playing since NA launch. Those who took the time to play on the EU should be allowed to bring their characters over. I was too lazy to, so I can't complain.

I do agree that name and race should be kept intact.

One mass transfer sounds like a bad idea though. I think a progressive migration would be better. Maybe they can put transfer scrolls into chaos chests and you have to find one before you are allowed to move. :D

[Stone Dog]

One mass transfer sounds like a bad idea though. I think a progressive migration would be better. Maybe they can put transfer scrolls into chaos chests and you have to find one before you are allowed to move. :D

lmfao...for the love of gawd no!

No...NO...NOOOO!!!

Damn, you've just caused the delay of the new patch by another two weeks because AV will think this is a grand idea and want to implement it!! *sigh*

:rolleyes:

[Cyric1966]

One mass transfer sounds like a bad idea though. I think a progressive migration would be better. Maybe they can put transfer scrolls into chaos chests and you have to find one before you are allowed to move. :D

You sir, are pure evil! :ninja:

[Dragoon]

the simple fact is that I am bad

Its already been decided that transfers will be happening. Why rant and whine about it? New players who start today will feel like players who have been playing on NA-1 since launch have an advantage over them too, that's just how MMO's are.

Adapt and learn to play and you'll be fine.

[McDoogs]

9 days now since the 'coming soon' announcement.

[phillk_rainbow]

WTB - Update on the Update.

[Kikker]

Well the account page is updated my guess is thats what was holding up the transfer process in the future it would be nice if they didnt make posts saying "soon" if its going to take more than a week to just give us the next update and not even the thing itself.

[Keno]

WTB - Update on the Update.

Don't worry, soon guys! lol

[Patriota]

"We'll keep you posted on any new information on this. The devs didn't want to give an ETA yet but said it won't be long now."

What a joke...

[Negocromn]

"We'll keep you posted on any new information on this. The devs didn't want to give an ETA yet but said it won't be long now."

What a joke...

Calm down kidz. :)

But yeah, I'm kinda pissed too, atleast they should give us proper info.

[Cyric1966]

Post an update please!

[KOS allgriefers]

Post an update please!
Yes please an update.

[Patriota]

I'm realy realy tired of this, everything av does every thing have delay, never happen at the announced date, tranfers delayed for "not longer" uh, expansion delayed to the midle of next month, "siege stuff" come on what a excuse, i wont be surprise if they say it i'll be at the end of next month cuz they'll make a new stuff like change any race hair...

Now i login in the game, there's nothing to do, no ppl to kill nothing to grind, everyone is macroing waiting for tranfer, but some dont even grind cuz they're waiting for the huge change av will make, like they did before that would have save ppl lot of time if they did before. >.>

[Endaar]

I've been holding out for transfer info for some time now... I figure there's really no point to play right now when everyone is waiting on something, whether it be expansion or transfers. There's hardly anyone actually DOING anything in the world of Agon lately. This "character transfer update" announcement got my hopes up almost two weeks ago as I thought it would actually be information on when the transfers will occur... not just a "they are coming soon" reminder. Of course they are coming soon, it's been over the 3 month mark they better be coming soon.

I think AV should refrain from any "coming soon" announcements as they don't mean shit. Either admit you don't have something done and it's going to be pushed back to *x date* or don't say anything at all, because "coming soon" is NOT an update.

[Cyric1966]

Post an update please!

/sigh

[ikhoefnix]

Guys AV has been going about its business the same way now since... ever.
If you don't like it, DONT READ THE FUCKING UPDATES!

[Endaar]

Guys AV has been going about its business the same way now since... ever.
If you don't like it, DONT READ THE FUCKING UPDATES!


The entire point of my post was that "coming soon" isn't even an update when we already knew the transfers were coming soon.

[Azorius]

Where is the update?

It is obvious that the system should be complete by now. The transfer were due the end of this month.

So they are testing it? I don't see how is this information is any worthy enough to create a thread and name it character transfer update.

It is funny it looks like your team tries to calm the community with shitty* not relevant* information. Ridiculous seriously.

[Quixstar]

Lets roll ANY patch in october or I will be spooked !!!!

ONE PATCH PER MONTH is your only path. Resistance is Futile.

[McDoogs]

The entire point of my post was that "coming soon" isn't even an update when we already knew the transfers were coming soon.

lol

Sun rising update!

I can't give an exact ETA, but I can say that sunrise is coming soon.

[Zealot-Ex]

...it won't be long now.
{in Emperor voice}

[bongloads]

How many days are in a greek month?

[SkadisRevenge]

How many days are in a greek month?

alot. Soon TM!

[Lumanil]

What are you waiting for ????
You got the update in another thread: Expansion is delayed until mid november.
So transfers are.
Or did you ever expect the transfers coming before expansion ? :lmao:

AV isn't this stupid enough to kill EU-1 with enabling transfers just wo weeks before expansion comes out.
It would be like shooting yourself into the leg.
EU-1 would be a ghost server and the last people playing would quit game because of it. ( Or what do you expect in a pvp-game, when nobody is there to pvp with ? )

[Cyric1966]

Guys AV has been going about its business the same way now since... ever.
If you don't like it, DONT READ THE FUCKING UPDATES!

What update you Douche? I wish there was one to read on this subject.

[robtb]

lol

Sun rising update!

I can't give an exact ETA, but I can say that sunrise is coming soon.

You sure? Ever since we stopped dancing for Belenus I go to bed scared out of my mind today's was the last sun I saw fashioned from his malleable eye-light

[Stone Dog]

What are you waiting for ????
You got the update in another thread: Expansion is delayed until mid november.
So transfers are.
Or did you ever expect the transfers coming before expansion ? :lmao:

AV isn't this stupid enough to kill EU-1 with enabling transfers just wo weeks before expansion comes out.
It would be like shooting yourself into the leg.
EU-1 would be a ghost server and the last people playing would quit game because of it. ( Or what do you expect in a pvp-game, when nobody is there to pvp with ? )

Well the place (EU-1) is dying now as it is. So many people have dropped their subs waiting for this next patch and the transfers that it's almost impossible to find any real PvP...which is what I expect to find in a PvP game, btw. :rolleyes:

[Lumanil]

Well the place (EU-1) is dying now as it is. So many people have dropped their subs waiting for this next patch and the transfers that it's almost impossible to find any real PvP...which is what I expect to find in a PvP game, btw. :rolleyes:

You may be right, that EU-1 is dying. But making transfers available, would be like slashing with an axe into this dying body.
So i hope ( and expect ) that they are making transfers available AFTER the expansion.

[spade547]

Well the place (EU-1) is dying now as it is. So many people have dropped their subs waiting for this next patch and the transfers that it's almost impossible to find any real PvP...which is what I expect to find in a PvP game, btw. :rolleyes:

If you guys really want pvp, and not sucker punching, start making even battles set in advance in an arena format. The population is going to be low until the patch and transfers. Until then, if you claim to be bored, you have noone to blame but yourself.

[Threeloves]

Well the place (EU-1) is dying now as it is. So many people have dropped their subs waiting for this next patch and the transfers that it's almost impossible to find any real PvP...which is what I expect to find in a PvP game, btw. :rolleyes:

Wut? EU-1 has and will have more players than NA-1, according to several polls, dont come up with this propaganda bullshit because your going to transfer yourself pls.

[builder86]

If you guys really want pvp, and not sucker punching, start making even battles set in advance in an arena format. The population is going to be low until the patch and transfers. Until then, if you claim to be bored, you have noone to blame but yourself.

This is only half true. You can't really blame people for the overall culmination and state of the game and its lack of pop as an effect.

[bongloads]

why is there a thread called "Character Transfer Updates" yet we haven't got any updates about character transfers, which are already 13 days late?

[JCatano]

Mr. White -

I'm here to give you an update...

I will give it to you at later date.

Much later.

[Kikker]

For the love of my sanity give at least me a update, we aren't going to forget about this thread.

[Julius Khaldun]

DON'T MAKE ETAs IF YOU CANNOT KEEP THEM!! ITS WORSE WHEN YOU SAY IT WILL BE OUT ON XX DATE AND IT DOES NOT COME OUT FOR WEEKS, MONTHS, OR SOMETIMES IN YOUR CASE YEARS!!

[syryel]

Please stop harrassing the messenger (it's not his fault).

I have to tell AV though that, since I thought the transfer was soon, it screwed up my DF/clan dynamics. I was managing my ressources and selling stuff, and not buying much, thinking I would soon stop. It's not exactly the kind of behavior my clan appreciated, but I was planning to leave soon...

As it turns out, since my EU account will not extend to November, it works out I guess (I presume that means I won't be playing a good while :( ). Yes, it's my choice you can say, but I don't have the money to risk paying an EU and NA account on the same month.

Cheers

[gazarsgo]

wtf syryel you jerk bumping this

[Stone Dog]

wtf syryel you jerk bumping this

Did you just bump it, Gaz? :)

[dennishzd]

Are you guys crazy? You really don't need to blame the community liaison for a lack of information on transfer updates. This person can only give information the devs allowed him to give, and therefore the DEVs are to blame.

"Two weeks" - just hilarious. ;)

[droidika]

Guess most NA and ALSO EU players are eager for an Update!

Give us some information AV - plz!

[Julius Khaldun]

Is it not the liaisons job to transfer information both to us from the devs and from us to the devs? Therefore my post was not directed twards Mr. White but twards the devs.

[draketh]

Please update us on this!

[weaselmode]

Maybe you think I'm wrong but I don't think going on about it will make them give information faster. If it would they would already have updated you

[Corpsepoker]

I think it's safe to assume, it's going to happen the same time around expansion.

[SuperCowOPP]

*beating a dead horse*

Seriously though, where is the transfer info? We were told transfers in October and its almost November now and there has been no word.

[Woopya]

Just a request.

Could we get a yes/no/maybe as to whether or not quest info will be saved on the transfer? Like if we do the vitality quest, which is quite grueling, will the fact that it is done, or partially done, xfer over? It is part of our character, so it should xfer as per the description, but I could easily see the information belong overlooked.

Please let us know, those quests are extremely long and not worth doing if it is something we will be asked to do again.

[Patriota]

New Update
"Hello Community
It's a honor to say that tranfers are working 100% perfect, we have tested and unfortunately we dont have eta, but any time soon i give you another update about it." -.-

[Archetype90]

Been watching the player base of the guild I am apart of fall apart day by day.

Can you please give us another update? Im starting to think I will just take a break until transfers come.

[Keno]

New Update
"Hello Community
It's a honor to say that tranfers are working 100% perfect, we have tested and unfortunately we dont have eta, but any time soon i give you another update about it." -.-

loooooooool

[ZtyX]

Just put a date. We need a date.

[Anero]

IT never gives hard dates, when it's working and tested they let you know.

[bongloads]

New Update
"Hello Community
It's a honor to say that tranfers are working 100% perfect, we have tested and unfortunately we dont have eta, but any time soon i give you another update about it." -.-

sad but true

[Griffter]

Even an idiot can reevaluate the situation though once he is closer the end result.... If you paid me to build you a house and I said it'd take 4 weeks, after 3 weeks don't you think I could give you a better idea whether or not I'm going to be finishing in 1 more week?... After 4 weeks I could tell you why I didn't make it....and after 5 weeks if you haven't heard from me, chances are I just took your money...I know construction is a far fetched analogy, but this is a universal concept.
We understand that no one can predict the future and that if something isn't ready its not going to get there by wishing it. BUT THERE IS NO REASON FOR YOUR SILENCE
1. Tell us why you're late,
2. Tell us a new date.
and finally
If you can't make it give us a reason, Don't let us waste money on two subs like you'd have us buy 2 clients at the same time when NA launched or you will continue to lose customers. Just leaving a free window for a month isn't enough for those of us who don't want to stay on EU-1. WE WANT INFO.

[Oxll]

AV has been deleting most posts that show true emotion. This thread would probably be a third larger if they didn't delete the true posts.

I've been in two guilds that went from 60-80 actives, to 5-8 actives. Most of the ppl who stopped playing are 'just taking a break till Transfers'. Some of those people have decided to go play Aion. Others have found other things to do and have lost interest in DF.

So my question is why does DF shoot themselves in the foot? Why are you letting your community hang in the dark? Yeah you'll keep us diehards around, since we're suckers for torture, but how bout all those people who have let their subs expire? Would AV be strong enough to actually come forward and release server population details or their Subscription numbers? Every other mmorpg i've played has server population numbers available.

So get on it, Updates are essential.

[JCatano]

Double-dip my sub, please.

[Noxide]

AV has been deleting most posts that show true emotion. This thread would probably be a third larger if they didn't delete the true posts.

I've been in two guilds that went from 60-80 actives, to 5-8 actives. Most of the ppl who stopped playing are 'just taking a break till Transfers'. Some of those people have decided to go play Aion. Others have found other things to do and have lost interest in DF.

So my question is why does DF shoot themselves in the foot? Why are you letting your community hang in the dark? Yeah you'll keep us diehards around, since we're suckers for torture, but how bout all those people who have let their subs expire? Would AV be strong enough to actually come forward and release server population details or their Subscription numbers? Every other mmorpg i've played has server population numbers available.

So get on it, Updates are essential.


Yep I pour my heart out in a post, intelligently and sincerely and it gets deleted. The server transfers are killing my face, you created the split in servers now glue it together before i eat myself to fat

[Archetype90]

AV has been deleting most posts that show true emotion. This thread would probably be a third larger if they didn't delete the true posts.

I've been in two guilds that went from 60-80 actives, to 5-8 actives. Most of the ppl who stopped playing are 'just taking a break till Transfers'. Some of those people have decided to go play Aion. Others have found other things to do and have lost interest in DF.

So my question is why does DF shoot themselves in the foot? Why are you letting your community hang in the dark? Yeah you'll keep us diehards around, since we're suckers for torture, but how bout all those people who have let their subs expire? Would AV be strong enough to actually come forward and release server population details or their Subscription numbers? Every other mmorpg i've played has server population numbers available.

So get on it, Updates are essential.

Well put, and my guild is suffering from the same problem - although not that extreme. Less people, all playing less, some quitting entirely, and some "taking a break until transfers". I just rented two PS3 games, and I think I am going to fall into that last category.

[mmsys]

I think I am going to fall into that last category.

Thats desperation











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Teza

[Stone Dog]

As always (and I don't expect this post to actually stay up for very long) AV has decided that instead of giving us answers they'll actually feed us a new spotlight outlining the joys of being a new player.

*sigh*

Always with the misdirection...and I've said that and had it deleted before as well.

You would have to be blind, deaf and dumb to miss what's going on here. Hell, AV has a "Questions" thread that is just that...nothing but questions. What's worse is that they actually edited the original post to remove the timeframe on answers. lmfao...seriously, did you guys think that we'd ask creampuff questions in there?

Somebody needs to grab a serious dose of "wake the fuck up" at AV.

[combustion8]

bah I'm sick of waiting for the transfer, moving on. :bang:

[Careca]

As always (and I don't expect this post to actually stay up for very long) AV has decided that instead of giving us answers they'll actually feed us a new spotlight outlining the joys of being a new player.
.

/sign

[boxfetish]

as always (and i don't expect this post to actually stay up for very long) av has decided that instead of giving us answers they'll actually feed us a new spotlight outlining the joys of being a new player.

*sigh*

always with the misdirection...and i've said that and had it deleted before as well.

You would have to be blind, deaf and dumb to miss what's going on here. Hell, av has a "questions" thread that is just that...nothing but questions. What's worse is that they actually edited the original post to remove the timeframe on answers. Lmfao...seriously, did you guys think that we'd ask creampuff questions in there?

Somebody needs to grab a serious dose of "wake the fuck up" at av.

qft.

[Patriota]

As always (and I don't expect this post to actually stay up for very long) AV has decided that instead of giving us answers they'll actually feed us a new spotlight outlining the joys of being a new player.


True, and pathetic.

[Tibernicus]

True, and pathetic.

Pathetic just because its not what YOU wanted? I would like info too, but I'm not gonna start 10 threads about it. Don't you kind of think that they will give us the info when they can? Durrrr?

[Dragoon]

Pathetic just because its not what YOU wanted? I would like info too, but I'm not gonna start 10 threads about it. Don't you kind of think that they will give us the info when they can? Durrrr?

They already have the info. They wont tell us anything because they knew two weeks ago that people would be pissed if they knew it would be a month before transfers would occur.

What's the point of multiple community liaisons if the misleading info the devs used to give us directly is now relayed to us via a proxy? The community liaisons don't even reply to threads.

[Patriota]

Pathetic just because its not what YOU wanted? I would like info too, but I'm not gonna start 10 threads about it. Don't you kind of think that they will give us the info when they can? Durrrr?

did i start start any thread? So be cool av's fanboy.
They are wrong and that's it, lot of ppl are frustrated with no infos and have the right to say the true, being good or not.

[Stone Dog]

Pathetic just because its not what YOU wanted? I would like info too, but I'm not gonna start 10 threads about it. Don't you kind of think that they will give us the info when they can? Durrrr?

I think what you're seeing is a backlash to the fluff that we have been receiving. We're looking for answers to many, many questions and after having been promised those answers we're five weeks into a "Questions" thread and still have yet to see a single answer to any of the questions posed there.

That kind of frustration is going to lead to what you see on these boards today and it definitely puts everyone in a very difficult position (customers, moderators and Aventurine.)

Add to that a delay in the release of their latest patch and again you will see frustrations boil over.

All I would personally like to see from AV is communication. Even something such as "I'm sorry, we can't discuss that right now as we have other things to attend to" would suffice...as long as it's not a copy/paste solution to every single question asked.

Heck, post one answer every Monday morning to one question and we'd be happy! (At least I would.) That's all most of us want...is just the communication that we were promised.

I'm a golf professional by trade. I have the patience of Job and need to when you consider that many of the students I teach are new to the game and have difficulty just making contact let alone sending the ball in the intended direction.

But even that kind of patience will eventually wear thin and run out.

[Patriota]

I think what you're seeing is a backlash to the fluff that we have been receiving. We're looking for answers to many, many questions and after having been promised those answers we're five weeks into a "Questions" thread and still have yet to see a single answer to any of the questions posed there.

That kind of frustration is going to lead to what you see on these boards today and it definitely puts everyone in a very difficult position (customers, moderators and Aventurine.)

Add to that a delay in the release of their latest patch and again you will see frustrations boil over.

All I would personally like to see from AV is communication. Even something such as "I'm sorry, we can't discuss that right now as we have other things to attend to" would suffice...as long as it's not a copy/paste solution to every single question asked.

Heck, post one answer every Monday morning to one question and we'd be happy! (At least I would.) That's all most of us want...is just the communication that we were promised.

I'm a golf professional by trade. I have the patience of Job and need to when you consider that many of the students I teach are new to the game and have difficulty just making contact let alone sending the ball in the intended direction.

But even that kind of patience will eventually wear thin and run out.

Well spoken.

[Corpsepoker]

When is this thread going to be locked ?

:rolleyes:

[Squatch]

Now. This thread has run its course. Aventurine will provide an update as soon as possible.