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Bawlin
10-04-2009, 01:30 AM
Governor Deval Patrick today vigorously challenged the findings of a powerful congressman who had sharply rebuked the governor for not spending nearly a half-billion dollars in federal highway stimulus funds quickly enough to create jobs for struggling families.

US Representative James L. Oberstar, chairman of the House Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, had written a letter to Patrick on Thursday stating that Massachusetts ranks 49th in the nation in putting the money to work, having committed only 23 percent of its funds so far.

In a letter to Oberstar today, Patrick argued that the congressman's rebuke was based on an "inappropriate one-size-fits-all analysis," because it takes into account only the speed at which the funds are being spent and not the projects that are being undertaken or their ultimate economic benefit.

Rather than using highway stimulus money on mostly "simple maintenance and repaving projects," Massachusetts is spending the money "to develop more ambitious projects," Patrick wrote. He cited as an example $15 million of highway stimulus money that is being used to build a road for the redevelopment of Assembly Square in Somerville into a new shopping center with millions of square feet of mixed-used development.

"Because of its complexity, this investment will take time to deliver, but it is time that is clearly worth the effort," Patrick wrote. "This investment, as well as other similar investments we plan to announce soon, will yield long-term economic growth and their job creation will greatly exceed that which could be accomplished by undertaking simple maintenance and repaving projects."

Massachusetts was among five states that received a letter of rebuke from Oberstar, a Minnesota Democrat whose committee is charged with monitoring the use of federal stimulus dollars. Seven months after receiving $437 million in federal highway funds, Massachusetts had only about $99 million in construction work underway as of Aug. 31, according to Oberstar's panel.

"I strongly urge you to refocus your efforts . . . and use the available funds to create and sustain family-wage jobs," Oberstar wrote in his letter to Patrick. "These jobs are critical to Massachusetts and the nation's long-term economic growth."

In an interview today, Jeffrey A. Simon, the governor's director of infrastructure investment, characterized the difference between Patrick's focus on longer-term projects and that of other states that are using highway stimulus money more quickly as "sugar versus protein and sprint versus marathon."

Oberstar's office did not respond to requests for comment.

Patrick wrote that Oberstar had not taken into account that Massachusetts has been ranked by federal officials in the top 10 among states – and recently as high as 5th -- for spending other types of federal stimulus funds, "including critical health care and education investments."

In addition, Massachusetts is creating jobs in the near-term by spending more of its own money -- $721 million this year – to repair crumbling roads and bridges than other states, which are deploying their federal highway stimulus funds for those projects, Simon said.

"If you look at the whole picture," Simon said, "you'll find a story that is one we're very proud of, that accomplishes those dual goals of jobs for today and jobs for tomorrow."

Interesting how Congress is encouraging the state governments to spend their stimulus money unwisely and criticizing the states who want to make long term investments that will result in a real rise in job creation...

Attau
10-04-2009, 03:29 AM
The point is to have states pump up spending and create short term jobs - so they have to go back to the FED's and beg for more to keep the funny money system afloat. This couldn't possibly end in real job creation because they aren't providing a service the market demands.

Lol @ anyone with faith in government. This is like a HUGE cash for clunkers program. At the end of it - there will be absolutely no demand for the jobs created during the 'boom' - and there will be a 'bust'. Thanks government!

Vessol
10-04-2009, 03:38 AM
Stop believing in conspiracy theories, this whole story is a joke. What's next, aliens and reptiliods?

palo god
10-04-2009, 03:52 AM
Don't expect government to do the right thing, because the vast majority of the time they don't.

Vessol
10-04-2009, 03:59 AM
Don't expect government to do the right thing, because the vast majority of the time they don't.

The right thing would be to spend. They got that stimulus money for a reason.

Especially on wars and welfare.

palo god
10-04-2009, 04:08 AM
The right thing would be to spend. They got that stimulus money for a reason.

Especially on wars and welfare.

I hope that's sarcasm.

Vessol
10-04-2009, 04:12 AM
I hope that's sarcasm.

Of course it's not.

palo god
10-04-2009, 04:21 AM
Of course it's not.

So you think the government should continue to spend borrowed money on consumption?

Vessol
10-04-2009, 04:23 AM
So you think the government should continue to spend borrowed money on consumption?

Why not? It's been working perfectly for the past 50 years. Plus all you idiot conspiracy theorists said the market would collapse, then why is it recovering rapidly? Huh?

palo god
10-04-2009, 04:40 AM
Why not? It's been working perfectly for the past 50 years. Plus all you idiot conspiracy theorists said the market would collapse, then why is it recovering rapidly? Huh?

Because it hasn't been working perfectly in the past 50 years, and the market isn't recovering.

Bawlin
10-04-2009, 06:04 AM
Why not? It's been working perfectly for the past 50 years. Plus all you idiot conspiracy theorists said the market would collapse, then why is it recovering rapidly? Huh?

What a great policy, to spend money you don't have on a massive scale. I'm pretty sure you can't just declare bankruptcy and restructure as a government...

Signus
10-04-2009, 10:06 AM
Interesting how Congress is encouraging the state governments to spend their stimulus money unwisely and criticizing the states who want to make long term investments that will result in a real rise in job creation...

When that stimulus money hit, almost all the roads were closed because of construction EVERYWHERE. 20 minutes detour to get home. Not doing enough my ass.

Tzacharu
10-04-2009, 10:09 PM
There's a lot of things that Patrick does that I disagree with, but this is probably one of the things that I like about him. He doesn't spend everything and puts the money in the right places.

Yea, a lot of roads were finally worked on. I know I had to take detours around 3:00AM all the time on highways because they were being worked on for the entire summer. I don't think I've ever seen such an effort in my lifetime to get roads re-paved and potholes filled.

The Cougar
10-05-2009, 09:01 AM
Because it hasn't been working perfectly in the past 50 years, and the market isn't recovering.
Heh, you took the bait pretty easily there. "No, of course I'm not being sarcastic!"

palo god
10-05-2009, 09:05 AM
Heh, you took the bait pretty easily there. "No, of course I'm not being sarcastic!"

Sarcasm doesn’t translate well through the internet, and for me to get trolled would have to imply that he got a rise out of me, which none of the failed trolls on here ever do.

The Cougar
10-05-2009, 09:09 AM
Sarcasm doesn’t translate well through the internet, and for me to get trolled would have to imply that he got a rise out of me, which none of the failed trolls on here ever do.
Okay, if you say so. But I didn't say that you got trolled, I just implied that you got fooled. And I know you have read Vessol's more serious posts on the topic, so I don't see why you wouldn't pick up his not-so-vague "internet sarcasm".

palo god
10-05-2009, 09:14 AM
Okay, if you say so. But I didn't say that you got trolled, I just implied that you got fooled. And I know you have read Vessol's more serious posts on the topic, so I don't see why you wouldn't pick up his not-so-vague "internet sarcasm".

Because lately everything hes posted seems like something the old vessol would have nothing to do with. Its gotten to the point where I don't know if hes just joking or if his political views have changed.

Drool111
10-06-2009, 01:17 AM
Kay, I'll spend it on a shit ton of cola.

Rachsucht
10-06-2009, 04:58 PM
We should spend the stimulus money on a proper war, the kind where you seize territory with natural resources and loot whatever the victim country has in assets.

It's not like anybody likes the USA anyway, so what harm could come of it? I think Venezuela with its abundant oil would be a good first target.