Patch Issues

[Mr. White]

Sorry this took so long, we needed to get confirmation on the issues created by the patch.

There seems to be a version of the bank bug bag still active, despite the patch fix. The fix was tested and worked internally, also on the test server. On the live servers, it appears like the bug is still there. The devs believe there's a different cause for it.

There also seems to be a new issue with resting and having elemental weapons equipped. We're also investigating other reports but haven't confirmed them yet.

The devs are investigating as we speak. We'll keep you updated on their progress.

[doomahx]

I still can't believe that this sub forum exists. It must be a dream.

Communication.. its..... amazing

[Kasmos]

I still can't believe that this sub forum exists. It must be a dream.

Communication.. its..... amazing

I know right? I'm not even slightly upset that there are patch issues!

[Elmi]

Will there be a rollback?

[samureyed]

Thanks for the update!

[Friagrim]

I know right? I'm not even slightly upset that there are patch issues!

I wouldn't go that far, but atleast its not talking to the mod wall. Tho in reality it doesn't mean much more... but I still love it I like that the attempt is being made.

[Adûn_East]

Will there be a rollback?

this

[SyRiOCoP]

thank's for the update, shit happen :)

[Captain Kirk]

I know right? I'm not even slightly upset that there are patch issues!

Im barely upset... but the communication helps! :)

[Chaokel]

I'm actually more amused at this new 'bugs' than upset, some of the stories people have been telling have made me laugh outloud =D.

Plus this communication is so new to me that it almost completely overwhelms any issues i have with the new bugs.

[doomahx]

I'm actually more amused at this new 'bugs' than upset, some of the stories people have been telling have made me laugh outloud =D.

Plus this communication is so new to me that it almost completely overwhelms any issues i have with the new bugs.

Same.

Thanks AV for keeping us in the loop, take all of the time you need to fix things! :D

[Jonte912]

they are also red

[Sarphus]

Thanks for the update. I really like this new forum.

[Jilazee]

So my bank is totally messed up. Everytime I move an item in a bag close it and reopen it every item in that bag is stacked on top of one another in the top right corner.

On a side note - I never used to have the bank bug on my laptop just my main PC. Now I have it on both machines and worse than ever.

Mr White.
Can you confirm if the bank bug is linked to client java versions? What Java versions are your devs running?

[Gray Fox]

YES! Mista White said we will keep you updated on the progress, this is so awesome.

[sc0r0wnz]

The bank bug isn't fixed yet :(

[captain chaos]

no shit?

[Shiva_Firewing]

copy paste feature is bugged HEAVILY.

If you copy 2 items and paste 'm, only the first is considered "second hand".

if you copy 2, paste 'm in notepad, edit the second, paste 'm back - delete the first and then press enter - you have a editted icon that is not considered "second hand"

[relk]

they are also red

Unless you edit two at once.. The second one is blue.

[Mezmorized]

patches create new bugs...thats why it takes so long for them to come out with patches...even with all the testing they still manage to sneak in. But atleast they inform us that they are AWARE of them and working on it. Thats progress.:)

[Jilazee]

Progress would be it working. I had the bank bug on my PC but not my laptop. Since the patch I have it on both and 10x worse than before.

[Friagrim]

patches create new bugs...thats why it takes so long for them to come out with patches...even with all the testing they still manage to sneak in. But atleast they inform us that they are AWARE of them and working on it. Thats progress.:)

New content adds bugs, its not supposed to be bug FIXES adding bugs, especially since all of the fail bug fixes took a pretty long time to roll out, even at fail status lol.

[Jilazee]

edit - Can't edit the above post. As of now Darkfall is unplayable with the bank in it's current state. Gearing up and getting stuff out requires me to log after every bank use as I can't open the bank a second time during one session.

[ISVRaDa]

Nice thread :)

[Abremalist]

How many yet have tested resting with an elemental weapon equipped? :D

No, seriously. Thanks for the update.

[phillk_rainbow]

I'd like some clarification on what they have labelled 'the bank bag bug'

At the moment there are three major problems with the bank.

1 - The banking exploit, where people could use a bug with the bank to allow them to remotley drop items into the bank.

2 - Bank freeze bug, a bug where the client would just completely freeze for some time if you try and open the bank.

3 - Inventory item stacking, I opened my bank today to find 40ish different items had all stacked in every bag I have, even some of the bags themselves had stacked.

Im sure everyone would like some clarification on which problems were being fixed exactly.

[stingerII]

bank bags are sticking, some not even opening :S

[relk]

How many yet have tested resting with an elemental weapon equipped? :D

No, seriously. Thanks for the update.

Yeah.. I wonder how that bug snuck in.. You now get damaged when resting with an elemental weapon? Wierd.

[Elmi]

3 - Inventory item stacking, I opened my bank today to find 40ish different items had all stacked in every bag I have, even some of the bags themselves had stacked.


Rarely happened to me before. I think they just made it consistent effect this patch.

[Zevy]

Fix the Bank BUG plz !!! I have 8 bags all over my screen and cant close them !!

[eMpty900]

I'd like some clarification on what they have labelled 'the bank bag bug'

At the moment there are three major problems with the bank.

1 - The banking exploit, where people could use a bug with the bank to allow them to remotley drop items into the bank.

2 - Bank freeze bug, a bug where the client would just completely freeze for some time if you try and open the bank.

3 - Inventory item stacking, I opened my bank today to find 40ish different items had all stacked in every bag I have, even some of the bags themselves had stacked.

Im sure everyone would like some clarification on which problems were being fixed exactly.


Same here :/

[captain chaos]

Never play on patchday.

[Lucia Lunaris]

Why are the servers still up??

[Zevy]

I ask that myself ?? I cant play without getting anything out of my bank...

[Friedrik Chase]

Still no mention of mount health regeneration...

[Fugean]

Fix the Bank BUG plz !!! I have 8 bags all over my screen and cant close them !!

If you still want to play, just turn the opacity(sp?) down on all of them and stack them under your normal backpack :)

[Fugean]

If you still want to play, just turn the opacity(sp?) down on all of them and stack them under your normal backpack :)

I cant edit, so... also you can zone into a dungeon or bindstone recall, or anything that gets you a loading screen and they will go away. i hope that helped

[Shiva_Firewing]

Why are the servers still up??

my question exactly.

[Patriota]

nice patch, but bank bug seems to be worse than before.

[Shir1115]

nice patch?
most of the mentioned bugs still work

- access to bank from anywhere
- bank bug (bags not opening, stacking)
- underwater mount thing
- acid bow does occassionally more dmg
- acid bow damages village stone
- ...

+

- resting with ele weapon on
- going into acid water *g* ...
- bank bug worse
- ...

[augurer]

Seems they should roll back the patch and start over from square one. Maybe they need to rebuild their internal Test server, as obviously it's not a very good simulacrum of the Production server.

[KOS allgriefers]

The codebase for this game sounds like its botched to hell. Everytime they patch the game it introduces a mulitude of other issues. Sounds like the code is poorly written for this to happen so often. If the codebase is solid then enhancements and changes wouldnt have such a ripple effect on other pieces of functionality within the game.

This scares me for the future of this game.

[AjentOranj]

Still no mention of mount health regeneration...

I think that is intentional ... they reduced the cooldown timer on Heal Mount for a reason.

[shuker44]

Posting here as i cant start up a seperate thread :)

Is there any news on the expansion? i dont mind hearing that it has been delayed! would just like to hear something thats all :)

[AshesRelandi]

Any word on why the servers are still up with all the previous bugs + increased frequency of them happening AND new bugs are still in..?

[KOS allgriefers]

I think that is intentional ... they reduced the cooldown timer on Heal Mount for a reason.

I was told by a GM that this was not intended and it is indeed a bug.

[ScareCrow]

I think that is intentional ... they reduced the cooldown timer on Heal Mount for a reason.

All other living creatures in the game regain health over time though...strange that mounts do not. I think people are confused about mount regen being a bug because it wasn't documented as a "change" in the patch notes...

[Sauron]

This is getting ridiculous. Every single item in my bank has moved since the last patch, and I can't move items around to find other items, because when I move one item, every other item in the container follows the one item I moved.

[ethrylain]

New content adds bugs, its not supposed to be bug FIXES adding bugs, especially since all of the fail bug fixes took a pretty long time to roll out, even at fail status lol.

You should see what ccp did with eve-online, new content can break things, bug fixes can break things, bugs that are fixed can be broken by new bug fixes, content or what not. Any change to the code can have unforseen concequences. Test servers are not live servers. Despite ccp's best efforts they can never generate the load the live server expierences on the test servers. some bugs only become visible whne the load is high and resource demand is high.

[CattBoy]

This is getting ridiculous. Every single item in my bank has moved since the last patch, and I can't move items around to find other items, because when I move one item, every other item in the container follows the one item I moved.

Dont move things.

I have resolved this issue by always leaving (1) of an item in its location. And further loot/items i pick up from pve/pvp i drop onto the associated stacks. For gear and random armor --- Um you are going to need a "Crap" bag and just dump it in and/or sell :)


Human nature -- Learn to adapt

[sc0r0wnz]

How many yet have tested resting with an elemental weapon equipped? :D

No, seriously. Thanks for the update.

doesn't give gains, tried it a 1000 times when eating.

not trolling.

[FizzleAlot]

Some bugs are still in, but they say they're working on it. Cope with it ;)

And stop talking about server down. Devs have a test server i believe (read Mr. White's post) and if they bring live server down, the boards will be flooded with QQs.

Good choice. Hope they fix the bank quickly though!

[methamorpheus]

Dam yea the bank bug is bad,never had the bug before the patch now the bank is a mess + i had a few bank tunnels 1st time i opened bank.

[nothingsafe]

Dont move things.

I have resolved this issue by always leaving (1) of an item in its location. And further loot/items i pick up from pve/pvp i drop onto the associated stacks. For gear and random armor --- Um you are going to need a "Crap" bag and just dump it in and/or sell :)


Human nature -- Learn to adapt

Or we could not be tools, and expect a company we pay to follow through on their statements of action a little better.

If their test server doesnt work to figure out if such a game-breaking flaw is fixed, just leave the public servers down a little extra, and do your testing on those servers.

This is so unprofessional it is ridiculous.

[Xaphan(CH)]

You should see what ccp did with eve-online, new content can break things, bug fixes can break things, bugs that are fixed can be broken by new bug fixes, content or what not. Any change to the code can have unforseen concequences. Test servers are not live servers. Despite ccp's best efforts they can never generate the load the live server expierences on the test servers. some bugs only become visible whne the load is high and resource demand is high.

that's why a serious development company is using development practices called - unit testing - pair programming - regression testing - quality gates etc... to avoid what usually happens when AV is deploying a patch....

don't get me wrong i really like DFO but their code quality is just very poor..

[DeepUndercover]

I feel so sorry for the new community guys. They get to start of with the positive announcement yesterday that a patch comes today fixing a lot of broken stuff.

And then this happens.

Now guess what will happen next time these guys are happy to share some development/news with us?

[Agonias]

I´m using a logitech keyboard and with the new patch, some of the special keys that i was using for bindings are not working now. Specially the left access keys that you can see in this image:

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/keyboards/keyboard_mice_combos/devices/2963&cl=us,en

[Vogular]

Seems that heavy loaded bags get bugged.

New Bug is all the items resetting on ONE SPOT

PLease fix this, clanbanks are totally f^$*# atm

[Kevlar]

this is really nice this forum
the patch would take 2 hours, turns out its more, but atleast they let us know why! Good job AV

[Arkh]

I cant edit, so... also you can zone into a dungeon or bindstone recall, or anything that gets you a loading screen and they will go away. i hope that helped
But the more you load, the more chances you have to get a "out of virtual memory" crash.

[xinteractx]

This is something turbine did and it allowed them to deploy patches on a daily basis well players played on it.

The test server would have like 50% gains on it, so players can just login and just kill each other and run around the world and create heavy server load.

Hell allow people to play on the test server for free for 10 days / acct sub and then wipe their character and make them start over.

This would create heavy load as well, alot of new players would be free to rome around and explore, try out the game etc and you guys would be able to constantly take down the world and patch it as you progressed in the patches.

the test server would yild lots of great data for improving bugs and then when patch day comes on the main paid servers, you could deploy stable releases to paying subscribers and use the test servers to do your quality insurance testing.

Turbine pretty much did this, but I dont know about the free part.. that was something I added.

[SHo]

I agree that if it there is a way to determain who used this bug they should get their banks whiped and 25 hour ban be placed period.

[screw loose]

Sorry this took so long, we needed to get confirmation on the issues created by the patch.

There seems to be a version of the bank bug bag still active, despite the patch fix. The fix was tested and worked internally, also on the test server. On the live servers, it appears like the bug is still there. The devs believe there's a different cause for it.

There also seems to be a new issue with resting and having elemental weapons equipped. We're also investigating other reports but haven't confirmed them yet.

The devs are investigating as we speak. We'll keep you updated on their progress.
You will save Darkfall from any threat.

[Dragoon]

Still no mention of mount health regeneration...

I hope they're not making that crap into a "feature". Also I thought it was really cool how you could dismount without stopping your mount, made things more fluid and fast paced. Oh well, I can deal with that disagreement but mounts need to have their regen back, even if it's only 10% of what it used to be there should be SOME regen. Or at least let us feed them or offer a new type of mount that DOES regen.

[cupilix]

it would be really nice if I could open the bags in my bank, in order to retrieve my weapons and stuff

[Swinging Sirloi]

Sorry this took so long, we needed to get confirmation on the issues created by the patch.

There seems to be a version of the bank bug bag still active, despite the patch fix. The fix was tested and worked internally, also on the test server. On the live servers, it appears like the bug is still there. The devs believe there's a different cause for it.

There also seems to be a new issue with resting and having elemental weapons equipped. We're also investigating other reports but haven't confirmed them yet.

The devs are investigating as we speak. We'll keep you updated on their progress.


There is a bug alright. I never had a problem with my bank before this patch came out this morning. It is quite a pain...

[MrDDT]

Thanks for all the updates. Even though the patch was fail its nice to know you guys see it too.

[canenot]

was that litle patch this morning the fixs? or is it still coming? I never had any bank problems to today, one bag was stuck open and had to reset to close it. all items are geted stacked up on bags. well thanks for the patch you fixed alot:)

[Torc]

Thanks for the update, keep at it AV and ignore the whiners as usual.

[Chris Windblade]

just got home from work. has there been any update to the bugs that are still existing that was intruduced after patch or preexisting that thaught to be fixed?

[Chris Windblade]

This is something turbine did and it allowed them to deploy patches on a daily basis well players played on it.

The test server would have like 50% gains on it, so players can just login and just kill each other and run around the world and create heavy server load.

Hell allow people to play on the test server for free for 10 days / acct sub and then wipe their character and make them start over.

This would create heavy load as well, alot of new players would be free to rome around and explore, try out the game etc and you guys would be able to constantly take down the world and patch it as you progressed in the patches.

the test server would yild lots of great data for improving bugs and then when patch day comes on the main paid servers, you could deploy stable releases to paying subscribers and use the test servers to do your quality insurance testing.

Turbine pretty much did this, but I dont know about the free part.. that was something I added.

Incase you didint know they have paid testers in house is why there is no public test

[Chris Windblade]

if this helps any seems that the main tir of the bank is not sticking in the gui persist open the bank and straiten things close it then its all scrambled agin i am checking the gui persist and its not saveing the xyz cords there.

and i also answered my own question once i loged on heh.

[greenhair]

we are fixing the bank bug with a new patch, but before we do were going to fuck it up some more.

thanks .

[Allanon Farsyde]

Ya, I'm assuming this has already been said but...

This is almost unplayable, I cannot use my bank like this.

Every bag bugs.

[SamuelWhitewand]

Does anyone have a way to fix the bags open and stuck on the screen besides logging, recalling, or going to a loading screen?

[Alberton]

Well things are screwed ingame atm and in 8 hours I'll be starting my weekend, and the wife is working all weekend so I was hoping for lots of DF love.

Lets hope it can be fixed today, otherwise I'll play something else until its fixed.

This new forum is excellent, please just let us know when its fixed so we can come back.

[SeverinCompte]

I've already come to accept that there will be at least two quick patches to fix every "patch"

So patches come in little bunches, like grapes... but with a time variable.

[Travious]

Is this your guys first MMO?
There are always bugs, even in well tested patches.

[screw loose]

The Acid bow still hits for double Surging (proc).
The Elemental Bows still do damage to village control point.
You can still mount on the bottom of the ocean and ride.

[spool]

Hehe yea I have 14 bags stuck to me screen, kinda sucks xD.

[stingerII]

Does anyone have a way to fix the bags open and stuck on the screen besides logging, recalling, or going to a loading screen?

you might wanna try dragging to backpack and back to bank. Can't guarantee it will work though

[kozzmozz]

Sorry this took so long, we needed to get confirmation on the issues created by the patch.

There seems to be a version of the bank bug bag still active, despite the patch fix. The fix was tested and worked internally, also on the test server. On the live servers, it appears like the bug is still there. The devs believe there's a different cause for it.

There also seems to be a new issue with resting and having elemental weapons equipped. We're also investigating other reports but haven't confirmed them yet.

The devs are investigating as we speak. We'll keep you updated on their progress.

nice guys! Keep it up , your doing a good job!

[FastEddy]

Alot of people are getting this bug upon entering our password and then pressing enter at the login screen.


"Could not establish login server connection: Timeout(#2)"

A fix would be neato so i could play tonight.

[Trammie]

login servers seem down or something

[SeverinCompte]

The devs are trying to get to their control panels to fix the login servers... but there seems to be a bunch of bags in the way.

[Renj^]

The devs are trying to get to their control panels to fix the login servers... but there seems to be a bunch of bags in the way.

win

[morlander]

okay so this is something off any of the topics here so far but i have been working armor mastery

100 shield combines on arachnias (12000gold 700 ingots 700wood 200 leather)
at my skill level which just hit 75 has been giving me 3 to 4 points per 100

today after patch i started with arachnia's and when i realized after about 30 or 40 of them i was not getting skill ups i grabbed some 30 leenspar and 30 nethial ingots and tried making some higher tier shields hoping for some skill gains
after spending my resources making 40 arachnias 30 frostshroud and 30 moonshade the former 2 which are 50 armorcrafting mastery to make
in the end i gained .80 skill in armor crafting mastery spent 14k 700 ingots 700 wood 30 nethial 30 leenspar 200 leather.......
something has seriously changed all of a sudden since yesterday any other armor smiths out there?

[Yomaz]

for the bag issue i dont have many things that are darkfall secrets but a few and ill share this one if u dont want to worry about someone banking there shit or u want to get rid of all ur open bags go into a portal it fixes da situtaion at least before patch

[Shiva_Firewing]

Is this your guys first MMO?
There are always bugs, even in well tested patches.

the difference is the impact of those bugs. Acid bow surging 1/20 shots... possible to slip through.

bank being hit by a tornado every time you open it? not so much.

[-morph-]

Is this your guys first MMO?
There are always bugs, even in well tested patches.

New content patches do often introduce bugs, but to be honest bug fix patches should not be failing to fix any of the bugs they set out to resolve and only introducing further bugs. :p

[StopyerCryin]

"IS THIS YOUR FIRST MMO?" Quoted by some dumbass:D




Their first MMO? How many fuckin MMOs do you know that have NO bugs? NONE. As far as I know, this is their first MMO. It is a learning process for them. If youve played many MMOs at their beginning then you know there are always bugs. UO has been around how many years? 12 or something? YES THEY TOO HAVE BUGS! Get used to it. They fix or balance one thing, another thing gets messed up or unbalanced. Its just how it is. Yes, this patch was pretty bad, but Ive been around this game since the start and to be honest, most werent so bad. This game needs alot of love and help and of course AV needs to do alot of things to this game before they kill it off, but you whining babies out there aren't helping matters with your crying. Instead of "Fuck you, your game sucks blah blah, or IS this your first MMO" bullshit, just tell them, hey something is broken, please fix it. Give them some credit already. They have made an amazing game and with the right moves, they can make it stick around a long time. Really, fuckin douche bags. :lmao: