Hey Creationists

[Hubbell]

http://spacefellowship.com/2009/08/18/nasa-researchers-make-first-discovery-of-lifes-building-block-in-comet/

Where's your god now?

[Aacevedo]

http://spacefellowship.com/2009/08/18/nasa-researchers-make-first-discovery-of-lifes-building-block-in-comet/

Where's your god now?

so , they found a lego piece of life.
wtf I'm not creationist
ahh I remember now. Stop with this shitty CreationvsEvolution threads please

[Rahavin]

http://spacefellowship.com/2009/08/18/nasa-researchers-make-first-discovery-of-lifes-building-block-in-comet/

Where's your god now?

He's in space, putting life in comets. Don't be dumb, Hubbell.

[Marrik]

people who cant understand ToE arent going to understand this either, it wont have any impact on them.

[Delwyn]

Comets are godjizz.

[Forgin]

It's not like any creationist is gonna let himself be convinced by things like science and logic.

Still this is valuable information for the intilligent part of humanity.

[StrawberryClock]

This is old because amino acids have already been found on meteorites. While this comet has one amino acid necessary for life, asteroids have been found to have upwards of 19.

[Cornelio]

Hi. :)

Oh, and I didn't realize my God went anywhere.

[Forgin]

Hi. :)

Oh, and I didn't realize my God went anywhere.

You're a fucking retard.

[stony23]

http://spacefellowship.com/2009/08/18/nasa-researchers-make-first-discovery-of-lifes-building-block-in-comet/

Where's your god now?

what the fuck has this to do with creationism? lol whatever, go to church and stop whining.

[Forgin]

what the fuck has this to do with creationism? lol whatever, go to church and stop whining.

“Our discovery supports the theory that some of life’s ingredients formed in space and were delivered to Earth long ago by meteorite and comet impacts.”

You can't read?

[Fro]

you idiots, God is obviously testing your faith. Did the bible not teach you anything?

[Cornelio]

You're a fucking retard.

Why is that?

[Forgin]

Why is that?

Because I believe you have to be pretty damn stupid to believe in creatonism, or god for that matter.

[stony23]

Because I believe you have to be pretty damn stupid to believe in creatonism, or god for that matter.

almost as stupid as believing whatever you do.

[Forgin]

almost as stupid as believing whatever you do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy

[Cornelio]

Because I believe you have to be pretty damn stupid to believe in creatonism, or god for that matter.

Well, I do completely understand where you are coming from. But if there's one thing that I've learned it's that people are only truly happy if they are ignorant.

[Forgin]

Well, I do completely understand where you are coming from. But if there's one thing that I've learned it's that people are only truly happy if they are ignorant.

I understand your point of view and since I do not wish to infringe on your ignorance, I shall leave this thread so I can avoid posting intilligent and logical things where you might view them.

[Cornelio]

I understand your point of view and since I do not wish to infringe on your ignorance, I shall leave this thread so I can avoid posting intilligent and logical things where you might view them.

You sound so bitter, I'm not sure what happened to you to make you hate religion so much, but I'm sorry for you.

[Forgin]

You sound so bitter, I'm not sure what happened to you to make you hate religion so much, but I'm sorry for you.

I have nothing against religion. It is a mechanic used by the intilligent and the strong to control and exploit the ignorant and the weak.
I however hate stupidity, and dumb people. Because of this a have a very strong dislike for all people with an honest believe in any God or religous doctrine.

[Cornelio]

I have nothing against religion. It is a mechanic used by the intilligent and the strong to control and exploit the ignorant and the weak.
I however hate stupidity, and dumb people. Because of this a have a very strong dislike for all people with an honest believe in any God or religous doctrine.

I can't understand how an intelligent person could hate "dumb" people. But I do sincerely feel sorry for you, you are clearly a bitter and sad person despite your obvious intelligence.

[Rahavin]

forumfall needed another religion thread.

[Forgin]

I can't understand how an intelligent person could hate "dumb" people. But I do sincerely feel sorry for you, you are clearly a bitter and sad person despite your obvious intelligence.

The thought that you could make conclusions about my personality trough a one page long online conversation is laughable.

[paade]

you two should e-date.

[Cornelio]

The thought that could make conclusions about my personality trough a one page long online conversation is laughable.

Isn't it?

[Fro]

The thought that you could make conclusions about my personality trough a one page long online conversation is laughable.

Stop while you still can Forgin.

[Strangia]

Because I believe you have to be pretty damn stupid to believe in creatonism, or god for that matter.

Fuck, that fucking retard Isaac Newton is at it again, saying his retard theory of universal retard gravitation.


Mother fucker, that J.R.R. Tolkien is releasing another book for idiots, by idiots.

There are plenty more religious intellectuals.

[Forgin]

Fuck, that fucking retard Isaac Newton is at it again, saying his retard theory of universal retard gravitation.


Mother fucker, that J.R.R. Tolkien is releasing another book for idiots, by idiots.

There are plenty more religious intellectuals.

Newton and even Tolkien both lived in very different times than we do today. You are probably well aware that you presented a very weak argument so I will not bother explaining to you any further why you are full of shit.

[ZeroCool]

http://spacefellowship.com/2009/08/18/nasa-researchers-make-first-discovery-of-lifes-building-block-in-comet/

Where's your god now?

hmmm because conventional religion = god.

yes it makes perfect sense.

[ZeroCool]

Because I believe you have to be pretty damn stupid to believe in creatonism, or god for that matter.

ah yes becasue it is illogical to think that there is a superior reasoning power out there. Even though almost every great scientist and philisophical thinker thought otherwise.

you know, if a painting were aware of itself and the canvis on which it was painted, would it come to the conclusion that there were a painter? It sees the detail and symmetry and beauty of itself and the world in which it lives, but because he cant see the painter directly, he must determine that there is none?

God is a philisophical concept, not a religious one.

[Forgin]

ah yes becasue it is illogical to think that there is a superior reasoning power out there. Even though almost every great scientist and philisophical thinker thought otherwise.

you know, if a painting were aware of itself and the canvis on which it was painted, would it come to the conclusion that there were a painter? It sees the detail and symmetry and beauty of itself and the world in which it lives, but because he cant see the painter directly, he must determine that there is none?

God is a philisophical concept, not a religious one.

It would be nice if the origin of the universe and the human race would be as simple as a metaphor about a painting. It's not.

[Aacevedo]

oh no creationism vs evolution thread #49449434-V
:(

[Strangia]

Newton and even Tolkien both lived in very different times than we do today. You are probably well aware that you presented a very weak argument so I will not bother explaining to you any further why you are full of shit.

Tolkien lived the majority of his like in the 20th century, so nice try. And its not as if these guys were just baseline religious; both Newton and Tolkien were deeply religious, and were strongly involved within their respective religious movements.


EDIT: I'm not religious, by the way

[ZeroCool]

It would be nice if the origin of the universe and the human race would be as simple as a metaphor about a painting. It's not.

Im no conventional creationist and i dislike religion just as much as you. But using basic philisophical insight, personal observation, and the understanding the history behind some of the greatest thinkers this world has seen, i have come to the conclusion that there is a higher reasoning power in whatever form. And yes If i were God i would probably be more offended by religion than atheism.

[Forgin]

Tolkien lived the majority of his like in the 20th century, so nice try. And its not as if these guys were just baseline religious; both Newton and Tolkien were deeply religious, and were strongly involved within their respective religious movements.


EDIT: I'm not religious, by the way

Ofcourse Newton was very religious, that was very normal in that time. I'm also quite sure he never gave any real thought to why he was religious. And even if he did he would have been influenced by everything around him too much to have any chance at coming to the same conclusions about religion as I do in my time.

I am now trying to find writing from Tolkien about his thoughts on religion. Mostly about why he believes what he believes (something very few religious people ever answer) because I would need to now what drives him to be religious before I could make a proper statement about him.

[stony23]

I have nothing against religion. It is a mechanic used by the intilligent and the strong to control and exploit the ignorant and the weak.
I however hate stupidity, and dumb people. Because of this a have a very strong dislike for all people with an honest believe in any God or religous doctrine.

yes very intilligent

[Forgin]

yes very intilligent

At least I have the decency to use capitalization and punctuation. My mistake was merely an overlooked flaw from someone is not a native speaker. Your're just being lazy.

[Seddoron]

Wait...did i get this right? Are there people who actually still believe in creationism in a modern society?


AHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!:lmao:

[Aleucard]

..... Alright, wrap your brain around this. While the Bible (and, presumably, other books like the Qu'Ran) are considered true (as in shit they said happened back in the day happened), then we must also realize one thing. Just how much do you expect can be fit into a little hand-sized book? I think that God just wanted the stuff that would be pertinent to humans in it. He probably had the foresight that we'd be a LONG way from chatting it up with some of his other creations, so He deliberately left it entirely out of the book(s) for us to find out for ourselves. When you take a SERIOUS look at just how big and diverse even this galaxy is (let alone the universe), it's a logical impossibility for it to not have been designed in some fashion (at least, the rules that govern it). As has been said in previous discussions, how can we hope to define how long a day is to God?

[Tenebrion]

http://spacefellowship.com/2009/08/18/nasa-researchers-make-first-discovery-of-lifes-building-block-in-comet/

Where's your god now?

Dead, I would imagine.

[pongo]

There are so many stupid people in this thread - religious and atheist alike - that it's not worth ever reading ever again.

I'll see you in next week's issue of Creationism vs. Evolution.






*intelligent

[Daestrro]

We have actual creationists on forumfall?

I always thought these threads were just trolls trolling trolls.

[Aacevedo]

There are so many stupid people in this thread - religious and atheist alike - that it's not worth ever reading ever again.

I'll see you in next week's issue of Creationism vs. Evolution.

*intelligent
I wonder if the database could handle another thread about this fucking shit.

[Tenebrion]

Zombie Jesus.

[Kusghuul]

Cthulu jizz, obviously. It travels space and impregnates planets!

[Jedicake]

U guyz r stewpid

obviously godditit

[Rahavin]

es geneus!

[Caffy]

Ah, the classic Theist vs. Atheist thread.

It's like watching two retards gouge each other's eyes out, then spit at each other with impotent rage.

This is the stupid shit Forumfall was made for.

/popcorn

[PirateGlen]

Why do people open the thread if they have such disdain for the topic? It's not as though the contents unknown due to the "ambiguous" nature of the title.

[jonyak]

Ah, the classic Theist vs. Atheist thread.

It's like watching two retards gouge each other's eyes out, then spit at each other with impotent rage.

This is the stupid shit Forumfall was made for.

/popcorn

just like the socialist VS libertarian threads...

[The Cougar]

The thought that you could make conclusions about my personality trough a one page long online conversation is laughable.
Lol.


The "religious people are unintelligent" argument is so ridiculous I can't believe it's still being repeated. And the "counter" is practically always the equally ridiculous "Einstein/Newton/Darwin/Tolkien (note: only these four names, none other) were religious and smart", which branches out into "That's so long ago" or "No, they weren't because [...]". Then follows more ridiculousness in various forms.

[Madrandomize]

Lol.


The "religious people are unintelligent" argument is so ridiculous I can't believe it's still being repeated. And the "counter" is practically always the equally ridiculous "Einstein/Newton/Darwin/Tolkien (note: only these four names, none other) were religious and smart", which branches out into "That's so long ago" or "No, they weren't because [...]". Then follows more ridiculousness in various forms.

I haven't seen a religious man or woman that is intelligent, to tell you the truth.I am not saying that they dont exist.

Most religious people i have met were mouth-breathers milking goats in some village,or inside a church all day-long,helping the priests with various works that needed to be done and the priest was too lazy to do by himself.

Btw why the vast majority of the university professors are tending towards or atheism (or agnosticism ,i cant be arsed to find the term on google)?
Since by definition they are a bit intelligent.

[Tithan Natus]

I can't understand how an intelligent person could hate "dumb" people. But I do sincerely feel sorry for you, you are clearly a bitter and sad person despite your obvious intelligence.

If you were intelligent you would realize emotions have nothing to do with this.

Besides, emotions are so controllable and simple that many people can change them on their own whim. But those kinds of people, underneath all the layers don't have emotions on the inside. I'll bet Forgin is that kind of person.

[Apex Vertigo]

Forumfall has people that are actually religious? This is a sad day indeed.

I believe I read somewhere in there the ol' "God just didn't want that part in the bible" somewhere in this thread? Should take a look at yourself, you're like a kid trying to re-enforce his belief that Santa Claus is real.

[jonyak]

I can't understand how an intelligent person could hate "dumb" people. But I do sincerely feel sorry for you, you are clearly a bitter and sad person despite your obvious intelligence.

I don't hate stupid people. I do hate mentaly lazy people, and I beleive stupidity and ignorance are the worst form of laziness.

[Honorius]

That Cornelio guy is an asshole.

[Teth]

Fucking hell, you'd think that Pope John Paul II never stated that as far as Catholicism was concerned, faith and science could totally rock out side by side and be BF4L (http://www.its.caltech.edu/%7Enmcenter/sci-cp/sci-9211.html). As long as you aren't talking about genetic engineering, anyway.

In fact, the Bible does not concern itself with the details of the physical world, the understanding of which is the competence of human experience and reasoning.

Just because mouthbreathing Yankee man-dregs following hugely deviant worst-of-the-worst perversions of Protestant Christianity have decided that LEARNANS IZ BAD CUZ THE MAN ON THE TV WITH THE CHRIST SAYS SO doesn't mean that the entire Christian faith (or any faith for that reason) has to be engaged in a mortal war to the death with the splendid powers of SCIENCE!.

If you're going to bayonet religion for retarded shit - which there is no shortage of - then use properly focused arguments based on fact instead of springing after wild generalization.

[Sqarak]

Just because mouthbreathing Yankee man-dregs following hugely deviant worst-of-the-worst perversions of Protestant Christianity have decided that LEARNANS IZ BAD CUZ THE MAN ON THE TV WITH THE CHRIST SAYS SO.

Which is kinda ironic as protestantism was originally a reaction towards the Catholic Church its absolutism, at least that is what I have been taught.

Stuff like they wouldn't accept Mary was a virgin and all these saints were pretty much idols to be worshipped, contrary to what the commandments demanded, etc.
Then somehow along the way the original steps towards sensibility have turned into a monster that logically deducted that everything was created as said in the bible.
Have our dear bible-munchers forgotten what happens when religion rules science and knowledge? The Dark Ages happened. Granted, the fall of the Western Roman Empire and migration of most scholars to the Eastern Roman Empire also helped the age of ignorance to come about.

The main reason I'm against Creationism is because it demands absolute acceptance of an absolute truth. All is as it has always been. This will only lead to another age where rulers rule because God created them to do so and people are oppressed because God created them to undergo it.

[Teth]

Plenty of Protestants are fine. You'll probably never run into any real science-related grief with most members of the major European traditions (Lutheran, Anglican, & moderate Reformist), for example. It's just that as "Protestantism" is not some monolithic entity and is rather a catch-all name for a million and one Western Christian splinter factions unified only through FUCKTHEPOPE, you tend to get a lot more utterly retarded cults and sects going on who entertain tragicomedic gibber-frothing ideas. In Catholicism these kinds of people tend to get rolled out of the flock for being schismatics.

Either that or they join Opus Dei, whatever.

Also, please note that while Protestantism as a theological concept was indeed in part based on reactions against rampant papal secularism & abuses of position, it got where it did (aka "pretty much all of Northern Europe") because local aristocracies realized it made a fuckawesome tool for consolidating their authority. That and it made a nice cover for land-grabbing on chuch holdings, which were usually pretty choice pieces of property.

Hard-nosed pragmatism and a cynical view towards ideology is usually what gets ideologies propagated in a meaningful fashion, funnily enough.