Yissam pvp

[shaggymane]

we need more PVP in Yssam island.

come fight The Red Army.

and Die guild needs more of your shitty loots so dont come naked please.

We dare you to shake the hornets nest.

Just remember, we know where you live.

[Reigner]

we need more PVP in Yissam island.

come fight The Red Army.

and Die guild needs more of your shitty loots so dont come naked please.

We dare you to shake the hornets nest.

Just remember, we know where you live.

Theres no I in Yssam.

[Umberto]

:ohno:

[Kotoll]

:lmao:

[braveliltoaster]

we need more PVP in Yissam island.

come fight The Red Army.

and Die guild needs more of your shitty loots so dont come naked please.

We dare you to shake the hornets nest.

Just remember, we know where you live.

im gonna go ahead and assume you arent even in that alliance

[Slithy]

sounds like a faker to me

[Polsni2005]

Fail

[shaggymane]

I dunno I must be acount haxxor ... join date = ?

anyhow, go ahead and shrug this challenge off.

and Reigner, my little spellchecker....
<<War isnt about whose right, its whose left.>>

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
check that please

[Lexendros]

don't bother, they'll only actually stand and fight if they outnumber you, or just shield parry until 10 people show up.

I can only imagine their clan alliance chat OMGREDS!!! SEND EVERYONE!!!

[shaggymane]

lexendros is starting to figure out how PVP works

[El Maniaco]

we need more PVP in Yssam island.

come fight The Red Army.

and Die guild needs more of your shitty loots so dont come naked please.

We dare you to shake the hornets nest.

Just remember, we know where you live.

You ally the whole island and bitch that there is no pvp.
:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:

[shaggymane]

wasn't bitching.

just saying.. it's kinda boring out here.

[El Maniaco]

wasn't bitching.

just saying.. it's kinda boring out here.

Stop allying everyone on the island. You could also leave your island for a bit and zerg it up on the mainland. 606 v 20 you just might get some good gear.

[Reigner]

I dunno I must be acount haxxor ... join date = ?

anyhow, go ahead and shrug this challenge off.

and Reigner, my little spellchecker....
<<War isnt about whose right, its whose left.>>

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
check that please

I bet you felt really smart with that one,
Ill let you have it, you probably dont get that feeling much. :lmao:

[AODSocrates]

<<War isnt about whose right, its whose left.>>

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
check that please

Forgot the apostrophe.

[Rhade]

we need more PVP in Yssam island.

come fight The Red Army.

and Die guild needs more of your shitty loots so dont come naked please.

We dare you to shake the hornets nest.

Just remember, we know where you live.

omw

[Reigner]

Forgot the apostrophe.

Apostrophes are for scrubs :ninja:
But misspelling the island you live on, geez.

[higach]

This has to be a troll...

Don't ally everyone around you and pvp will come :lmao:

[Santharix]

Don't listen to this guy. He's a nobody.

[grayrage]

we need more PVP in Yssam island.

come fight The Red Army.

and Die guild needs more of your shitty loots so dont come naked please.

We dare you to shake the hornets nest.

Just remember, we know where you live.

Pretty sure everyone knows this guy is not DIE :cool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc-rTGImsng

[Fustercluck]

don't bother, they'll only actually stand and fight if they outnumber you, or just shield parry until 10 people show up.

I can only imagine their clan alliance chat OMGREDS!!! SEND EVERYONE!!!

Come on Lex. We had 5v4 pvp yesterday and it was fun. And i quote you from public "now that was fun" When you keep killing crafters.......which i don't blame you and someone stands up to you, kills you and your friends in open pvp its an unfair battle? I had fun fighting you guys. You are good opponents. Don't twist the fun of the game into Mercmatics.

[Loc]

Pretty sure everyone knows this guy is not DIE :cool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc-rTGImsng
I see your cake and raise you a http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXC7qZ_iWgM

[Waphlez]

What the hell do you expect when you ally the entire island?

[brykanst]

come on you can call us zergs all you want but get the combat skill right at least as the few people i hang out with when i go to PVP will win when outnumbered almost consistently


think i have so far on NA won a 2v7 a few 3v5s and some 1v3s now do tell us how we zerg our opponents

[Laz]

Come on Lex. We had 5v4 pvp yesterday and it was fun. And i quote you from public "now that was fun" When you keep killing crafters.......which i don't blame you and someone stands up to you, kills you and your friends in open pvp its an unfair battle? I had fun fighting you guys. You are good opponents. Don't twist the fun of the game into Mercmatics.

5 vs 4? When was that?

I would be freaking ecstatic for those odds these days. Especially on Yssam of all places.

I do remember a 3 vs 10+ by a certain river a couple of days ago. It was beautiful.

And no one is calling it unfair, hell I even consider it a really fun, challenging scenario. Sometimes the numbers get to be a little much to handle and a few of us will whipe, but meh it only makes us better.

[Lexendros]

5 vs 4? When was that?

I would be freaking ecstatic for those odds these days. Especially on Yssam of all places.

I do remember a 3 vs 10+ by a certain river a couple of days ago. It was beautiful.

You gotta change your sig laz, that was so last month

[Laz]

/faceplam

Time for a group photo soon.

[Benevolence]

you allied everyone on the island and cry about boredom.


/facepalm


granted you prolly aren't even in that alliance and are just a random troll.

[Reigner]

Well Sweetwater counts as part of the Yssam Alliance, right? If so - myself and 8 other BkS gave them some fun PvP earlier tonight... Saw VG's main crafter at the city too, he decided to run out with them to fight us, just threw up a shield in his plate armor and sat there, though...

[Fustercluck]

Laz and Kaeus got pwned 2 v Piddle today!! Was that an unfair advantage too?? Troll harder.

[grayrage]

Laz and Kaeus got pwned 2 v Piddle today!! Was that an unfair advantage too?? Troll harder.

Both? Ouch :eek: Ahhh, well, win some, lose some :p Perhaps more gatherers will pop up for your next run.

Incidentally, is anyone else apalled at how many people are trolled by the OP even after posts were put down pointing it out? Very sad.

To Red Army guys, responding to whines about our Alliance is futile and fruitless. Fact is many folks who are NOT in the Red Army may be angry about it and their only weapon is to discredit, complain, troll and propagandize to make themselves feel better.

The truth is the Red Army is a geographical Alliance which makes sense and offers security and support for the guilds in it. Not to mention we are all having fun together too!

Don't sweat the complainers. It's what they do.

[Santharix]

Both? Ouch :eek: Ahhh, well, win some, lose some :p Perhaps more gatherers will pop up for your next run.

Incidentally, is anyone else apalled at how many people are trolled by the OP even after posts were put down pointing it out? Very sad.

To Red Army guys, responding to whines about our Alliance is futile and fruitless. Fact is many folks who are NOT in the Red Army may be angry about it and their only weapon is to discredit, complain, troll and propagandize to make themselves feel better.

The truth is the Red Army is a geographical Alliance which makes sense and offers security and support for the guilds in it. Not to mention we are all having fun together too!

Don't sweat the complainers. It's what they do.

I was just popped up after laz and them finished someone. No doubt they were stamina worn, but kaeus likes to hold up his shield, that's about it.

[Reigner]

To Red Army guys, responding to whines about our Alliance is futile and fruitless. Fact is many folks who are NOT in the Red Army may be angry about it and their only weapon is to discredit, complain, troll and propagandize to make themselves feel better.

The truth is the Red Army is a geographical Alliance which makes sense and offers security and support for the guilds in it. Not to mention we are all having fun together too!

Don't sweat the complainers. It's what they do.

If you guys want to play sim city on your island, I dont blame you. Being free of raiding parties and free to harvest anywhere must be an amazing perk.

People are just crying over spilled milk, when the milk hasnt even been spilled yet... When (or should I say 'if') The Red Army 10v1's your city, destroys everything and leaves you with nothing, then go ahead and cry about being zerged... But until that happens, let them do what they want, its a pretty strategic move, and if the server has a world war, they can be pretty safe in the knowledge that they will be one of the super powers.

They want to be safe, want to harvest in peace, and grind their skills without being bothered. Sure its pretty carebear, but it is, in the end, smart.

[Santharix]

If you guys want to play sim city on your island, I dont blame you. Being free of raiding parties and free to harvest anywhere must be an amazing perk.

People are just crying over spilled milk, when the milk hasnt even been spilled yet... When (or should I say 'if') The Red Army 10v1's your city, destroys everything and leaves you with nothing, then go ahead and cry about being zerged... But until that happens, let them do what they want, its a pretty strategic move, and if the server has a world war, they can be pretty safe in the knowledge that they will be one of the super powers.

They want to be safe, want to harvest in peace, and grind their skills without being bothered. Sure its pretty carebear, but it is, in the end, smart.

Finally someone that sees it in a positive way. People come to yssam all the time looking for pvp, and they get it. Not that naked shit you get all the time at cities on the mainland. Most people on yssam are geared ready to fight away from a city.

Death did it on EU, and you can't really deny them being successful in their time.

[smcgrath]

im gonna go ahead and assume you arent even in that alliance

you assume correctly, im a member of DIE and i have never seen or heard of him

[Reigner]

Finally someone that sees it in a positive way. People come to yssam all the time looking for pvp, and they get it. Not that naked shit you get all the time at cities on the mainland. Most people on yssam are geared ready to fight away from a city.

Death did it on EU, and you can't really deny them being successful in their time.

Ya, myself and 8 other Black Shields fought Necessary Evil and NME today at Sweetwater...

(Not saying this to brag, just proving that they werent afraid to fight geared)
But I became over-encumbered with mounts and armor 3 times and had to bank, then almost again a fourth time. There were actually probably 10+ suits of armor that we had to leave behind simply because we couldnt carry it. Again, our kill count was 127 after about 2 hours, and Im not saying that to brag, they were good sports about it and would love to fight them again, but a vast majority of those guys were geared.

Was a pleasant surprise.

[Santharix]

Ya, myself and 8 other Black Shields fought Necessary Evil and NME today at Sweetwater...

(Not saying this to brag, just proving that they werent afraid to fight geared)
But I became over-encumbered with mounts and armor 3 times and had to bank, then almost again a fourth time. There were actually probably 10+ suits of armor that we had to leave behind simply because we couldnt carry it. Again, our kill count was 127 after about 2 hours, and Im not saying that to brag, they were good sports about it and would love to fight them again, but a vast majority of those guys were geared.

Was a pleasant surprise.

Yea, most days I spend when I'm not pveing or harvesting, is me chasing a group across yssam and trying to guess where they hit next. Raiding parties get countered by patrols and the fights end up being alot of fun. Dreadnaughts always bring geared fights and are very good at working together. I have a present for you parry blockers now though. :)

[Reigner]

Yea, most days I spend when I'm not pveing or harvesting, is me chasing a group across yssam and trying to guess where they hit next. Raiding parties get countered by patrols and the fights end up being alot of fun. Dreadnaughts always bring geared fights and are very good at working together. I have a present for you parry blockers now though. :)

Hehe
I smell some impales coming.
That or some AoE nukes.

[Fustercluck]

Ya, myself and 8 other Black Shields fought Necessary Evil and NME today at Sweetwater...

(Not saying this to brag, just proving that they werent afraid to fight geared)
But I became over-encumbered with mounts and armor 3 times and had to bank, then almost again a fourth time. There were actually probably 10+ suits of armor that we had to leave behind simply because we couldnt carry it. Again, our kill count was 127 after about 2 hours, and Im not saying that to brag, they were good sports about it and would love to fight them again, but a vast majority of those guys were geared.

Was a pleasant surprise.

This happens all the time on Yssam and like you said its a pleasant surprise and change from naked zerglings. The PVP on this server has been amazing!!!! Plus the 5X faster skill ups. no wonder the EU trolls are /wrists:ohno:

[Santharix]

Hehe
I smell some impales coming.
That or some AoE nukes.

I hear impale doesn't work.
more like stam leech :)
Just hit 60 earth

[Reigner]

I hear impale doesn't work.
more like stam leech :)
Just hit 60 earth

Really? Some of my guildies arent going to be happy to hear that :(
And, stam leech? That sounds like it would be extremely frustrating. Guess Ill have to target you with mah Greataxe from now on during battle! Grr.

[Santharix]

well, I guess I haven't tested it. I decided not to buy it, but I'm gonna test it on server up.

[Laz]

Laz and Kaeus got pwned 2 v Piddle today!! Was that an unfair advantage too?? Troll harder.

...

...

I don't know why you have to straight make stuff up. I think you're talking about the fight on the mountain where we took out 3/4 guys in relatively even fight, ran out of stam. Tried to recover Lex's stuff after he d/ced (for the second time midfight that day-- the gimp) and got jumped by the reinforcements. I think I had 1 mounted/2 others on me while I was OOS, then more came and came after I went down to chase Kaeus for the next 5 minutes or so.

If anyone wants to see their tactics, don't listen to me or this fustercluck (?) just go up there and pick a fight.

Anyhow, I never claimed anything was unfair. We were the instigators and bit off more than we could chew at that point. Like I said before we've won in a 3 vs. 10+ and we've lost a few in a 3 vs. 10ish. Nobody is perfect, but when we fight outnumbered/persistent waves of reinforcements we're getting better and better with rough odds.

Looking forward to the next fight,
Laz.

[Ssly]

This happens all the time on Yssam and like you said its a pleasant surprise and change from naked zerglings. The PVP on this server has been amazing!!!! Plus the 5X faster skill ups. no wonder the EU trolls are /wrists:ohno:

5x faster skill-ups... lawl.

[Rhade]

5x faster skill-ups... lawl.

Not 5x, but a lot of EU time was wasted finding the best way to grind/what/how to grind effectively, etc.

There's some people I know that, at ~3 weeks, are about where most people were at about ~3.5 months over on EU.

It's not that the skill ups are faster, it's just that we're not playing a new game like EU was. In some ways, he's right, but it's not that anything has been changed in game, it's just that people are doing it in a more streamlined, effective fashion.

[Cetra[EQ]]

Not 5x, but a lot of EU time was wasted finding the best way to grind/what/how to grind effectively, etc.

There's some people I know that, at ~3 weeks, are about where most people were at about ~3.5 months over on EU.

It's not that the skill ups are faster, it's just that we're not playing a new game like EU was. In some ways, he's right, but it's not that anything has been changed in game, it's just that people are doing it in a more streamlined, effective fashion.

Lets be honest here, it's also proving that the grind in this game is nowhere near as bad as so many people cry about.

[Rhade]

;3651609']Lets be honest here, it's also proving that the grind in this game is nowhere near as bad as so many people cry about.

No, it isn't.
It's not impossible, but you have to understand that I'm talking about the leading edge of gamers on NA-1 when I made that post -- No jobs, nothing. They are still not capped out, and have been hitting it 12+ hours a day since launch.

For the power gamer, Darkfall's grind is difficult, but doable.
You're probably going to lose your girlfriend and gain 10 pounds, but it's doable.

If you have any sort of outside obligations (kids, job, etc), you can kiss your hopes of competing goodbye.

Good or bad, that's the situation, in my eyes. It's always been this way -- More time = More success -- However, Darkfall amplifies this by having absolutely no caps in place, and allowing characters to max everything possible to 100.

[Cetra[EQ]]

No, it isn't.
It's not impossible, but you have to understand that I'm talking about the leading edge of gamers on NA-1 when I made that post -- No jobs, nothing. They are still not capped out, and have been hitting it 12+ hours a day since launch.

For the power gamer, Darkfall's grind is difficult, but doable.
You're probably going to lose your girlfriend and gain 10 pounds, but it's doable.

If you have any sort of outside obligations (kids, job, etc), you can kiss your hopes of competing goodbye.

Good or bad, that's the situation, in my eyes. It's always been this way -- More time = More success -- However, Darkfall amplifies this by having absolutely no caps in place, and allowing characters to max everything possible to 100.

I have to agree with that, but considering the power gamers have 70+ in elementals after merely a few weeks, it proves the grind isn't as bad as it was and that PvE is certainly a lot better than it was - or else all these regs wouldn't be available. I think the launch of NA has shown the game has improved in a lot of ways, which didn't seem as obvious on EU .

With some caps in place, which I agree are pretty much needed, or at least global cooldowns on spells - the casual gamer could get into a state where he can compete on a personal level relatively quickly. Say a month or 6 weeks, which isn't a long time at all for an MMO. Remember what Claus said, not every player is going to have devestating spells - but casual guilds seem to have more numbers available, which offsets the power gamers advantage. In most games the power gamers would steam roll any number of casual gamers due to the casual dealing literally 0-1 damage.

[Rhade]

;3651820']I have to agree with that, but considering the power gamers have 70+ in elementals after merely a few weeks, it proves the grind isn't as bad as it was and that PvE is certainly a lot better than it was - or else all these regs wouldn't be available. I think the launch of NA has shown the game has improved in a lot of ways, which didn't seem as obvious on EU .

With some caps in place, which I agree are pretty much needed, or at least global cooldowns on spells - the casual gamer could get into a state where he can compete on a personal level relatively quickly. Say a month or 6 weeks, which isn't a long time at all for an MMO. Remember what Claus said, not every player is going to have devestating spells - but casual guilds seem to have more numbers available, which offsets the power gamers advantage. In most games the power gamers would steam roll any number of casual gamers due to the casual dealing literally 0-1 damage.

I'm not trying to defend casual gamers, but I am concerned for Darkfall's future if they don't take care of the people that don't play for 12+ hours each day. Yes, these guys are at 65-75 elemental, but that's not anywhere near "capping out." There's still stats to consider, which take quite a while, craft skills to grind, sharpshooter, and a lot of other things left to grind out. I'd say the competitive power curve still has about a month or two of solid 12 hour days to be totally capped out -- skills, stats and gear wise. The problem here is that it's taking people that are playing Darkfall 50+ hours a week 2 months to reach the "capping" point (100 on all skills and stats), you have to wonder how long most of the population is going to stick around.

Sure, people who have a lot of time to devote to the game, myself included -- we hate the grind, sure, but we're willing to do what's necessary to compete. However, I foresee the game becoming more and more empty, therefore less and less fun, as all the other guys start falling under the weight. Won't be mcuh fun running around with a character stacked to hell with no one to 4 shot because they've all left the game due to not being able to even remotely compete with other players, even if they may have more actual skill. It's a pretty poor situation.

[McDoogs]

The Red Army sounds a little bit like DUSK v2.1 tbh

[Krush]

we need more PVP in Yssam island.

come fight The Red Army.

and Die guild needs more of your shitty loots so dont come naked please.

We dare you to shake the hornets nest.

Just remember, we know where you live.
Maybe you shoulda thought about that before you became the Hyperion of US1.

10 guilds, 15 holdings, 725 members.:lmao:

[Iteroni]

Maybe you shoulda thought about that before you became the Hyperion of US1.

10 guilds, 15 holdings, 725 members.:lmao:

Reminds me more of Cairn. Just on a faster pace. Hyperion had propaganda coming out of every pore on Forumfall. While Cairn had none and they just stayed to themselves. The Red Army should live up to it's name and just naked mana missile everyone. Like charging with bayonets into a MG and assault rifles. I don't think Yssam has winters so even that won't save them. They should relocate to Nif to be more Russian.

[Santharix]

Reminds me more of Cairn. Just on a faster pace. Hyperion had propaganda coming out of every pore on Forumfall. While Cairn had none and they just stayed to themselves. The Red Army should live up to it's name and just naked mana missile everyone. Like charging with bayonets into a MG and assault rifles. I don't think Yssam has winters so even that won't save them. They should relocate to Nif to be more Russian.

Niffleheim hurts my eyes. And why are you guys still responding to this troll?

[Krush]

Reminds me more of Cairn. Just on a faster pace. Hyperion had propaganda coming out of every pore on Forumfall. While Cairn had none and they just stayed to themselves. The Red Army should live up to it's name and just naked mana missile everyone. Like charging with bayonets into a MG and assault rifles. I don't think Yssam has winters so even that won't save them. They should relocate to Nif to be more Russian.
They are controlling the same area that Hyperion had basically, and they outnumber all the other alliances by at least double.

Niffleheim hurts my eyes. And why are you guys still responding to this troll?
I'm a troll because you made the largest zerg alliance in the game, and took up double the holdings of anyone else and I pointed it out?

[Santharix]

They are controlling the same area that Hyperion had basically, and they outnumber all the other alliances by at least double.


I'm a troll because you made the largest zerg alliance in the game, and took up double the holdings of anyone else and I pointed it out?

I was not calling you out as a troll. I was talking about the person that made this thread.

[KingNapalm]

So insted of King Mannus do we have a Joseph Stalin?
Do your officers kill anyone retreating from the enemy?
Do you only give bows to every other player, and 5 arrows to every player?

[Santharix]

Yssam pvp was fun again tonight :D LotD brought 10-15 members and did a hell of a job. How many high ele mages do you have? :) I saw a 80+ fire mage.

[GluttonySDS]

These guys are nothing like Hyperion was... its funny how people cry zerg at alliances less than 1000 people. The devs themselves recently said their game is all about large alliances and large scale combat... anyone who has played DF for more than a month knows this is very very true.

[Rhade]

These guys are nothing like Hyperion was... its funny how people cry zerg at alliances less than 1000 people.
Agreed, the term is used loosely. However, the term is also relative to the size of other alliances on the server.

The devs themselves recently said their game is all about large alliances and large scale combat... anyone who has played DF for more than a month knows this is very very true.
Yes, but those same devs failed to program their game so people can play appropriately in such "large scale" battles. You and I both have router problems in large sieges, and many people rigs can't even handle them. Unfortunate, really.

[5%Luck]

These guys are nothing like Hyperion was... its funny how people cry zerg at alliances less than 1000 people. The devs themselves recently said their game is all about large alliances and large scale combat... anyone who has played DF for more than a month knows this is very very true.

The red army did a fairly large sized raid on a few citys a week or so back. I think it was 95+ all acounted for on our side. We suffered disconects mount lose and rebinds due t the strain on the server. It was a nightmare where we actualy had to break off in to smaller partys just to travel.

I know on eu I most defintly did NOT have these issues with arge raids and seiges twords the end. I can only assume they need to do some of the optimizations to the na server they did do to the eu one.

btw man 420! That shit was funny watching your naked scater all round your city!

~ Shwag

[Draacco]

Posting in a thread.

to some 20 is a zerg. :D

Don't see why this name keeps getting thrown around.

Usually the people that cry zerg don't have the capacity or leadership skills to organize a large group and successfully run it. :bang:

my 2 cents.

PvP in the game.. not in the forums. :rolleyes:

[Rhade]

Posting in a thread.

to some 20 is a zerg. :D

Don't see why this name keeps getting thrown around.

Usually the people that cry zerg don't have the capacity or leadership skills to organize a large group and successfully run it. :bang:

my 2 cents.

PvP in the game.. not in the forums. :rolleyes:

It's a subjective term, Draacco.
If a force of 6 engages a force of 10, and the 10 start getting raped, and falls back and grabs 10 more people, re-emerges from their city with now 20 in total, and meets up with 5 more while chasing down said group of 6, it's now 6 v 25.

"Zerg" is a term used when one side attempts to beat another side through sheer numbers -- it has no definition. A zerg can be 5 people rushing 1, because the 1 killed 2 people who went and got their 3 friends so they'd have a chance.

Yes, I believe the term is misused at times, but you have to understand that "Zerg" doesn't apply at "x" number, or at "x" holdings -- It's a mentality, stratagem, and idea. Where it applies is somewhat of an opinion, but it can usually be seen quite easily when one side attempts to make up for a lack of skill with a overwhelming force of numbers.

Just my opinion on the definition.

[GluttonySDS]

DF ruined the term gank...

[Fustercluck]

They are controlling the same area that Hyperion had basically, and they outnumber all the other alliances by at least double.


I'm a troll because you made the largest zerg alliance in the game, and took up double the holdings of anyone else and I pointed it out?

Come on Krush you have been around long enough. I did not expect mercmatics from you. What has Red Army zerged? No asset destruction. No ultimatums or other bullshit claims or posts. All we have done is come together and have some great PVP on Yssam. I thought you had to zerg to be the zerg. Now we are counting inactives and alts? Your better then that bro.

[Ominous79]

If you guys want to play sim city on your island, I dont blame you. Being free of raiding parties and free to harvest anywhere must be an amazing perk.

People are just crying over spilled milk, when the milk hasnt even been spilled yet... When (or should I say 'if') The Red Army 10v1's your city, destroys everything and leaves you with nothing, then go ahead and cry about being zerged... But until that happens, let them do what they want, its a pretty strategic move, and if the server has a world war, they can be pretty safe in the knowledge that they will be one of the super powers.

They want to be safe, want to harvest in peace, and grind their skills without being bothered. Sure its pretty carebear, but it is, in the end, smart.

yup no one bitches about death/cairnovors doing the same thing here on NA as they did on EU. carebearing it up on an island by themselves. im sure ones they get 100 magic and weapon 100 mastery they will come out from the island. instead of staying at the center of agon and fight it out with other guilds

so if the red army wants to do the same let them. who cares but, dont bitch about it being boring on the island and ask everyone to run up there to fight your naked rush from your cities

[Fustercluck]

yup no one bitches about death/cairnovors doing the same thing here on NA as they did on EU. carebearing it up on an island by themselves. im sure ones they get 100 magic and weapon 100 mastery they will come out from the island. instead of staying at the center of agon and fight it out with other guilds

so if the red army wants to do the same let them. who cares but, dont bitch about it being boring on the island and ask everyone to run up there to fight your naked rush from your cities

Geared PVP happens everyday. No scrub naked rushes. We are far from bored. I often cannot work on my skills because this or that small scale group is on the island and we roll out to greet them. Yssam is a good time.

[Vyore]

i wonder if there is 1 topic without gluttony posting how bad the game is he pays for monthly

[Rhade]

because this or that small scale group is on the island and we roll out to greet them.

And by "we", you mean 20+.

[grayrage]

And by "we", you mean 20+.

Surely you did not just QQ :rolleyes:

[Fustercluck]

And by "we", you mean 20+.

Haterade. We rarely roll deeper then 10. Most often its a group of 6 DIE v. comperable numbers. We rolled your "city" i mean a chaos city with 18 just out open pvp'n don't be a bitter betty =)

[5%Luck]

Geared PVP happens everyday. No scrub naked rushes. We are far from bored. I often cannot work on my skills because this or that small scale group is on the island and we roll out to greet them. Yssam is a good time.

Honestly when sisnter came by C-bay and then headed out to Tyikya and lost their raft inside 20 mins of stepping foot on yassam i can only agree that it may get boring real soon.

But hey thats what agon is for right!

~Shwag

[Kaeus]

Laz and Kaeus got pwned 2 v Piddle today!! Was that an unfair advantage too?? Troll harder.

Thats definately not true. As was mentioned, it was most likely Piddle coming in (as does everyone on the damn island) after fighting some other people. I also doubt that it was JUST Piddle vs us 2 for very long. Regardelss, I always find that if I stay in one spot on that island, I'm bound to have reinforcements arrive from all directions. Its quite strange to be surrounded from incoming reinforcements, but I guess thats expected from an island thats full of allied. Either way, we bring fun fights, and you guys generally come out to play.

I was just popped up after laz and them finished someone. No doubt they were stamina worn, but kaeus likes to hold up his shield, that's about it.

I most definitely do not only shield, but in that one situation I was outnumbered I think...5 to 1, and was hoping I could get some friends in before I ran out of stam. Unfortunately they experienced similar odds, as well as one of us DCing. I know we were fighting before your friends showed up Piddle, and I'm almost certain I didn't get your health down by just parrying.

To anyone else however, I'd suggest the trip to Yssam. Go kill some gatherers outside their cities and you are bound to get quite a fight on your hands. Lots of fun if you play it right.

[corpgus]

So insted of King Mannus do we have a Joseph Stalin?
Do your officers kill anyone retreating from the enemy?
Do you only give bows to every other player, and 5 arrows to every player?

^lol, "Hold the Line or I will shoot you MYSELF!" and "It's for your own good BANG!" come to mind here.

[Chubbyjesus]

DiE I guess we could ride your raft up there and fight yah.. But I wanted to let what I told yahs sink in first...

About what happens when you buddy up with an entire island. I know traveling away from the lynch mob hasnt worked for yahs yet, but be patient.. Some players plan on making your life a living hell soon.


Theres no I in Yssam.

This made me laugh, given the context of the Red Army. ;)

[Santharix]

You mean like the comparable size of SoN? Oh and some of the biggest guilds on the server in CTA? Can't forget about the experienced Death members that no doubt have already forged secret alliances. Keep speaking zerg, and you'll keep looking like a fool.

[Rhade]

Haterade. We rarely roll deeper then 10.

We rolled your "city" i mean a chaos city with 18

Haterade. We rarely roll deeper then 10.

We rolled your "city" i mean a chaos city with 18


Does not compute.

I don't really care, but the point is, that's how the rest of the server sees you guys. It's pretty well known, and regularly said, that if you go to Yssam, you're going to get zerged, simple as that.

[Santharix]

Does not compute.

I don't really care, but the point is, that's how the rest of the server sees you guys. It's pretty well known, and regularly said, that if you go to Yssam, you're going to get zerged, simple as that.

Rhade, don't be a fool. You've raided cities on the mainland. You've seen forces react with over 10 players no doubt. Andruk, erinthel, sunthrone are good examples. Are they part of Yssam? Sinister has brought raiding parties for the past couple days up with 6-10 people. You haven't seen them complain. LOTD came up with 15 people and they got a fight they were looking for. Can't forget SBA coming up with a group and ambushing us with 8-14 people. Everyone gets fights they are looking for. It's all good pvp. If you don't want comparable geared players, then why raid Yssam?

[Rhade]

Rhade, don't be a fool. You've raided cities on the mainland. You've seen forces react with over 10 players no doubt. Andruk, erinthel, sunthrone are good examples. Are they part of Yssam? Sinister has brought raiding parties for the past couple days up with 6-10 people. You haven't seen them complain. LOTD came up with 15 people and they got a fight they were looking for. Can't forget SBA coming up with a group and ambushing us with 8-14 people. Everyone gets fights they are looking for. It's all good pvp. If you don't want comparable geared players, then why raid Yssam?

San, don't be a fool.
I understand when cities get hit, they respond, with whatever they can.

However, the difference that I personally have noticed, is when raiding the Red Army:

We attacked a city belonging to the Red Army. They sent a geared group in via bindstone recall, who, upon arriving, even though we were outnumbered, they ran and turtled inside the houses. I assume they wanted to let the nakeds try to wear us down before they engaged us, even though they had a few more than we did. This isn't a big deal; they were just waiting to outnumber us, which happens a lot. So we fell back outside the city, dismounted, turned, and fought with them in pursuit. We had 6 players, they had roughly 11 players, all geared and ready to go.

We took no casualties, and made quite a few kills. After they realized they were being beaten, they all mounted and ran back into their city (with a force still bigger than us) to hide -- only to re-emerge 5 minutes later with doubled numbers (now outnumbering us nearly 2.5:1) and coming after us. We decide we're not looking to fight the zerg, not to mention with them getting more and more recalling in, so we decide to leave. As they're chasing us, 5 more allies join in the chase against us, putting their number to roughly 25-30.

We had an army behind us because one group of the Red Army, who outnumbered us, couldn't beat us.

What did they do? Just bring more bodies.

I'm not complaining -- I'm highlighting the choice of tactics between different groups of players.

[Santharix]

San, don't be a fool.
I understand when cities get hit, they respond, with whatever they can.

However, the difference that I personally have noticed, is when raiding the Red Army:

We attacked a city belonging to the Red Army. They sent a geared group in via bindstone recall, who, upon arriving, even though we were outnumbered, they ran and turtled inside the houses. I assume they wanted to let the nakeds try to wear us down before they engaged us, even though they had a few more than we did. This isn't a big deal; they were just waiting to outnumber us, which happens a lot. So we fell back outside the city, dismounted, turned, and fought with them in pursuit. We had 6 players, they had roughly 11 players, all geared and ready to go.

We took no casualties, and made quite a few kills. After they realized they were being beaten, they all mounted and ran back into their city (with a force still bigger than us) to hide -- only to re-emerge 5 minutes later with doubled numbers (now outnumbering us nearly 2.5:1) and coming after us. We decide we're not looking to fight the zerg, not to mention with them getting more and more recalling in, so we decide to leave. As they're chasing us, 5 more allies join in the chase against us, putting their number to roughly 25-30.

We had an army behind us because one group of the Red Army, who outnumbered us, couldn't beat us.

What did they do? Just bring more bodies.

I'm not complaining -- I'm highlighting the choice of tactics between different groups of players.

Here's the difference in our two guilds. This is hypothetical of course because you haven't actually hit DiE. Our guild takes in a lot of brand new players, because no doubt NA server has brought in a lot of brand new players. Your guild is selective in the sense that you don't take any newbs in at all. A lot of guilds on the server are in this position. Do you see where I'm going with this?

It is a choice of tactics, I guess you can call it that, but a lot of these players only have 2 weeks under their belt. It's like going to a goblin camp and just completely owning a day one player with a shot to the back.

[Laz]

And by "we", you mean 20+.

We know the truth, they know the truth. No need to keep bashing your head against the wall man.

That ambush got botched as hell, I was fighting two on two with some random mounted waiting for more, I just didn't expect that many more. I actually was running in the DIE pack completely surrounded for a solid 2 minutes until they got me. Then the ambush went sour when another group showed up and came from behind. Live and.. well die and learn.

Your tactics are generally effective and you have some solid players (Piddle Fiddle), but please don't act like you seek out even numbered fights.

[Arkdin]

Why are the dudes on Yssam so persistent. They chased me for like an hour today.

[Santharix]

We know the truth, they know the truth. No need to keep bashing your head against the wall man.

That ambush got botched as hell, I was fighting two on two with some random mounted waiting for more, I just didn't expect that many more. I actually was running in the DIE pack completely surrounded for a solid 2 minutes until they got me. Then the ambush went sour when another group showed up and came from behind. Live and.. well die and learn.

Your tactics are generally effective and you have some solid players (Piddle Fiddle), but please don't act like you seek out even numbered fights.

The thing is, you come to our island for a fight. If we came to your chaos city, we'd expect nothing more then to get zerged. If you want an even fight, I'll 1v1 you for the sake of even pvp. We cannot reject our members a chance to pvp. That is what this game is about.

[Santharix]

This conversation is just going back to where it origionally went. The only reason why I'm avidly defending is because the word "zerg" generally means that they are a faceless army with no decent pvp'ers.

[McDoogs]

Why are the dudes on Yssam so persistent. They chased me for like an hour today.

omg hi2uarkdin

[Black Horseman]

omg hi2uarkdin

holr

[StephenColbert]

9 Black Shields + 1 IS destroyed the island tonight. Good fights and good loots

[Cetra[EQ]]

holr

whats this

[Rhade]

How about that Yssam PvP today, eh?

[Santharix]

How about that Yssam PvP today, eh?

I got my earth to 84 today :P

Sorry I missed it :/

[SiKness]

How about that Yssam PvP today, eh?

The Clan kill list was spammed today by Yssam PvP.

I'll be dreaming about it in bed tonight.

[theironchef]

Here's the difference in our two guilds. This is hypothetical of course because you haven't actually hit DiE. Our guild takes in a lot of brand new players, because no doubt NA server has brought in a lot of brand new players. Your guild is selective in the sense that you don't take any newbs in at all. A lot of guilds on the server are in this position. Do you see where I'm going with this?

It is a choice of tactics, I guess you can call it that, but a lot of these players only have 2 weeks under their belt. It's like going to a goblin camp and just completely owning a day one player with a shot to the back.

Well said.

[Hot Karl]

i think the yssam alliance has scared everyone away with their 30v5 zergs. youve also displayed your willingness to chase runners for hours on end and call in 20+ backup and watercraft to catch them, which can be a bit discouraging....

also its "who's" as in "who is," not the possesive pronoun "whose."

[HippieOnLSD]

I do recall a group of EB coming and raping all of your cities today :P

[Reigner]

How about that Yssam PvP today, eh?

23 minutes to sort out the loot I got... (Yes I watched the clock)
23....
Oh shit, I just realized thats a cursed number, right as I typed that...
Is that bad??
...
Back on topic, 2kg, 5k arrows, almost 1k regs, God only knows how many sets of damn banded, 7 mounts and a battlehorn, and 1 metric fuckton of junk thats probably just gonna rot in my bank... (and thats only what I got, 9 others were on that trip)

Not 'talking crap' here, we were extremely careful, and we were moments from death on more than one occasion, 'twas an awesome night Red Army. Im sure we'll be back for more soon, but we'll have to be even more careful next time around, as you probably noted some of our previous tactics :ninja:

[Santharix]

I do recall a group of EB coming and raping all of your cities today :P

You mean, coming into DiE's city and scrambing for the gate again? :sly:

I hear you worked a number on everyone else though.

[smcgrath]

I do recall a group of EB coming and raping all of your cities today :P

i do recall you guys showing, than turning and running the second you saw that thier were people that werent afk :D

[Santharix]

23 minutes to sort out the loot I got... (Yes I watched the clock)
23....
Oh shit, I just realized thats a cursed number, right as I typed that...
Is that bad??
...
Back on topic, 2kg, 5k arrows, almost 1k regs, God only knows how many sets of damn banded, 7 mounts and a battlehorn, and 1 metric fuckton of junk thats probably just gonna rot in my bank... (and thats only what I got, 9 others were on that trip)

Not 'talking crap' here, we were extremely careful, and we were moments from death on more than one occasion, 'twas an awesome night Red Army. Im sure we'll be back for more soon, but we'll have to be even more careful next time around, as you probably noted some of our previous tactics :ninja:

No doubt you worked a number on yssam. I was having a bbq. :P Next time will surely turn out different. :)

[Rhade]

No doubt you worked a number on yssam. I was having a bbq. :P Next time will surely turn out different. :)

Ah, yes -- Our great victory was only possible because Piddle Fiddle was not there. He could have single handedly stopped all of us, and would only have to use half of his focus and concentration, and the other half on how awesome he is.

I wouldn't say "surely turn out different" -- I don't see any indications of that, personally.

[Santharix]

Ah, yes -- Our great victory was only possible because Piddle Fiddle was not there. He could have single handedly stopped all of us, and would only have to use half of his focus and concentration, and the other half on how awesome he is.

I wouldn't say "surely turn out different" -- I don't see any indications of that, personally.

Haha, I was not meaning me. I heard about some of the tactics used, and lack of communication. It's all a learning game.

I need to be more specific about my posts. I was not saying I can kill your guild rhade. You do have good pvp'ers. I now realise it looks like that. I was only meaning that it might turn out different when people learn from the mistakes.

[HippieOnLSD]

i do recall you guys showing, than turning and running the second you saw that thier were people that werent afk :D

Maybe in DiE city because there were 20+ of you guys, which we did not expect at all. The other cities though, come on man, we raped them.

[Zidane]

we need more PVP in Yssam island.

come fight The Red Army.

and Die guild needs more of your shitty loots so dont come naked please.

We dare you to shake the hornets nest.

Just remember, we know where you live.


*grabs hornets nest* >shake<>shake<>shake< ;)


i do recall you guys showing, than turning and running the second you saw that thier were people that werent afk :D

Yeah, the first 4 cities we rolled, we masacred all the inhabitants and they hardly put up a resistance. So we were a little cocky waltzing into the DIE's city. You did put up a very good defensive on your part. You guys snapped to it very quickly. Shooting from from the building top and and cave to get us in a pincher. We lost 2 guys on the way out, but happened to loot somebody that had an overloaded bag with lots of goddies. Haha, did your guy notice that was gone or was he afk for the whole thing?

[HippieOnLSD]

Yes I killed a guy and grabbed a 200lb green bag just to junk it.

[garfu]

Yes I killed a guy and grabbed a 200lb green bag just to junk it.

whats that in kg?

best night of PvP in my darkfall life. fighting off 20 of you (actual number, DiE plus another guild) then jumping on our raft, ditching 7+ mounts cause we couldnt hold them with all the loot, then nuking them as we sailed off. good times.

[Rhade]

So. Many. People.

gf's

[Whambulance]

So. Many. People.

gf's

You're pretty much the head troll that types about it every time you kill some naked noobs up in Yssam. So my question is do you ever kill the nutcuppers down in Cairn? They do the exact same thing as the nutcuppers in Yssam.

[Rhade]

You're pretty much the head troll that types about it every time you kill some naked noobs up in Yssam. So my question is do you ever kill the nutcuppers down in Cairn? They do the exact same thing as the nutcuppers in Yssam.

?

Was giving them props for bringing the fight.
Don't understand the hate.
They usually come geared, not naked.

To answer your question, we hit everywhere. We don't really focus anywhere.

[Whambulance]

?

Was giving them props for bringing the fight.
Don't understand the hate.
They usually come geared, not naked.

To answer your question, we hit everywhere. We don't really focus anywhere.

No hate just what i have noticed. You are clearly the top Yssam troll on the forums. I was just wondering if you actually hit other places.

You seem to be very anti-zerg too, and there are plenty of other bad zergs waiting to be slaughtered. It's good you are sharing the love though.

[Santharix]

No hate just what i have noticed. You are clearly the top Yssam troll on the forums. I was just wondering if you actually hit other places.

You seem to be very anti-zerg too, and there are plenty of other bad zergs waiting to be slaughtered. It's good you are sharing the love though.

He was making a post because we had a pretty epic fight, not any of that naked shit that you normally get.

[HippieOnLSD]

whats that in kg?

best night of PvP in my darkfall life. fighting off 20 of you (actual number, DiE plus another guild) then jumping on our raft, ditching 7+ mounts cause we couldnt hold them with all the loot, then nuking them as we sailed off. good times.

I don't recall that ever happening, check my tag again.