Baradron

[Kay Rica]

"Baradron loot has been updated"

Hey, people are making good money off of this guy, let's nerf the loot. Can someone post the "Adjusted" loot after they kill him, please?

[CattBoy]

"Baradron loot has been updated"

Hey, people are making good money off of this guy, let's nerf the loot. Can someone post the "Adjusted" loot after they kill him, please?

You mean speed hackers are sticking him in trees, rocks, etc and making good money.



New loot will be 666 gold, 10 gems + 1 r60 2h weapon.

My guess anyway.

[alfar1]

Apparently, there's no more loot.
Enjoy whatever you skin off of him, I'm sure it's totally worth it. xD

[Kay Rica]

You mean speed hackers are sticking him in trees, rocks, etc and making good money.



New loot will be 666 gold, 10 gems + 1 r60 2h weapon.

My guess anyway.

So instead of fixing speed hackers we take away a great legitimate mob that is great for making money with a large party.

I took him down with 5 people last night shooting manna missile, but glad hacking has to ruin another spawn.

[CattBoy]

So instead of fixing speed hackers we take away a great legitimate mob that is great for making money with a large party.

I took him down with 5 people last night shooting manna missile, but glad hacking has to ruin another spawn.

There are hundreds of other mobs that drop equivalent/good loot also, hence why they created them in the first place.

Go Explore!

[empa]

Baradron nerf..

[McSkippy]

It is confirmed that he drops theyril keys now.

[Luxferro]

It's just a quick fix. Some time in the future they will fix it all in a better manner, and release it all as an expansion.

[Mulciber]

It is confirmed that he drops theyril keys now.

ss or it didnt happen. ... .. . .. . .

[CattBoy]

It is confirmed that he drops theyril keys now.


EDIT_---- ^^ SS PLAZ



Does he drop anything else? Skin for anything?

Or does he JUST drop a key? (not even a runestone like gargantua?)

[mugal]

gargantua--whats he drop?

[Punish]

He sometimes drops 1000 gold. No keys.

Mob is completely worthless now. Way to go.

[Anton Chigurh]

You mean speed hackers are sticking him in trees, rocks, etc and making good money.



New loot will be 666 gold, 10 gems + 1 r60 2h weapon.

My guess anyway.

That was the one mob in the game that was worth while to kill for a party of 3-4 people and COULD be killed legit. One guy parries and the rest fire arrows at it, it was actually much faster then trying to kill it in a rock and you had 3-4 spawns near by. And you would get some fun pvp too (as in people who were geared and had great loot.) You could all make around 4-5K in an hour and then go enjoy the game and have enough money to grind your magic a measly .5-1 point for the day.

If they really did nerf it they just broke the only pve spawn in the game that was correctly balanced, and didn't require exploiting to make decent money. Good job av.

P.S. Mind you I'd go check it first; as it's such a lucrative spawn that I'm sure people would lie about the new drops to discourage people from going there.

[GluttonySDS]

How hard is it for a GM to patrol the baradron spots for a few days? Maybe have a dev stop updating dwarven house textures for a few hours or something?

On EU-1 they could have easily banned a few hackers/exploiters a day at the baradron spots if they gave a fuck...

[Anton Chigurh]

How hard is it for a GM to patrol the baradron spots for a few days? Maybe have a dev stop updating dwarven house textures for a few hours or something?

On EU-1 they could have easily banned a few hackers/exploiters a day at the baradron spots if they gave a fuck...

I don't even think it's about the hackers I think they don't like people even making that much money legit. 4-5K an hour maybe WAAAAY over what they think is acceptable no matter how you get it. After all they want your char to take 2 years to make while you fight against 2 month old complete chars that exploited and never get banned.

[Anton Chigurh]

There are hundreds of other mobs that drop equivalent/good loot also, hence why they created them in the first place.

Go Explore!

You obviously don't actually play this game.

[bongloads]

How hard is it for a GM to patrol the baradron spots for a few days? Maybe have a dev stop updating dwarven house textures for a few hours or something?

On EU-1 they could have easily banned a few hackers/exploiters a day at the baradron spots if they gave a fuck...

This, exactly this.

This is the main point of numerous baradron threads lately, yet people still find the time to create their own issues within the threads.

[Dragoon]

You obviously don't actually play this game.

No he's right.

[Anton Chigurh]

No he's right.

There are hundreds of other mobs that I can make 4-5K profit an hour off of and I don't have to exploit?

[Kay Rica]

There are hundreds of other mobs that I can make 4-5K profit an hour off of and I don't have to exploit?

I can't even read this with a straight face. :lmao:

[smaweet]

cute how anton chimes into this thread

where did your two buddies go? I heard they liked to farm the baradron..

(ps you owe me 10k)

[Anton Chigurh]

cute how anton chimes into this thread

where did your two buddies go? I heard they liked to farm the baradron..

(ps you owe me 10k)

Last time I fought you you ran away from me so that's 10K you owe me, and how many alts has afgans had banned so far for exploit killing devils? Maybe you should ask delivery guy. Also you should stop using a newbie wand in videos.

[labi]

How hard is it for a GM to patrol the baradron spots for a few days? Maybe have a dev stop updating dwarven house textures for a few hours or something?

On EU-1 they could have easily banned a few hackers/exploiters a day at the baradron spots if they gave a fuck...

looking forward to MO?

[Makestro]

looking forward to MO?

Another european dev team... just like funcom... don't expect much.

At least MO seems to be more influenced by UO though, kind of gives it a bit of an edge.

[Peacekeeper]

There are hundreds of other mobs that I can make 4-5K profit an hour off of and I don't have to exploit?

all the mobs that still get caught on terrain. See vilegaunts and varangians on ice and the raven standard veterans/officers on cairn. There are a lot more but those are the well known ones.

[Sanshi44]

now lets watch all the hacker move 2 the 2nd best mob prob more of those spawns round as well so we can have more people hacking mobs than before : P

[Deerhunter]

I see AV still screwing stuff up since they cannot fix their game/hackers, lol

[Idealist]

Wow, I know a solo spawn where you can make 5k an hour easy, sometimes alot more.


No I will not give up my spot =P just pointing out, try mobs out, kill a couple spawns because the good stuff doesnt always drop, and remember not every spawn of the mob has the same type of mob... different types drop different things.... have fun.

[Drucygoddess]

The baradon gave 5k in 10-20 minutes.

[j0NNy RampagE]

God..whine and cry more you little bitches..just kill yourselves

[bladerunner1]

How hard is it for a GM to patrol the baradron spots for a few days? Maybe have a dev stop updating dwarven house textures for a few hours or something?

On EU-1 they could have easily banned a few hackers/exploiters a day at the baradron spots if they gave a fuck...

The devs would prefer to fix things so people cant exploit rather than ban anybody. The only bans they have done in this game are hacking where people outright hack in PVP.

There has probably been little or no banning of exploiting. I'm not totally against the concept of not banning your players from a game when they are your bread and butter... but a slap on the wrist isnt enough.

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Admins should pull out the nerf gun and shoot poeple with it (IE skill reduction on your expensive skills), if they catch you, or something that doesnt mean people will still exploit right now because they think worst case a warning or maybe a 1 day temp ban.

This nerf should be on the FIRST OFFENSE. There is NO WARNING then we will start seeing some instant results. This is also in conjunction with the warning/ban system thats already in place.


They should also look at logs and do a mass nerf. People arnt going to quit because you nerfed their fire magic from 100 to 75 or something.... Before you chime in reading this and say "I will quit"... I would say on further consideration you might realise that being you have like 100 deathless mage/baradron kills in your journal that say "mount kick" there is pretty good justification.

[sheek80]

You mean speed hackers are sticking him in trees, rocks, etc and making good money.



New loot will be 666 gold, 10 gems + 1 r60 2h weapon.

My guess anyway.

Your guess, ROFL


We all know about SiNs relation ship to that mob :P

[swiftjbc]

there really wasnt that many people who walled the fire baradrons, just hackers who would try to back stick you in vain as you turn and hit them cuz it doesnt update like it should :D

[bongloads]

there really wasnt that many people who walled the fire baradrons, just hackers who would try to back stick you in vain as you turn and hit them cuz it doesnt update like it should :D

very clearly worded

[pvperLFC]

i know several spots i can solo for 4k/hr + tons of other loot/keys

duo for 5k/hr

ur a nub

[Phohammar]

Should go harass the guys on Nifilhiem doing vilegaunts who shut down outside of their spawn.

[Motig-SiN]

Your guess, ROFL


We all know about SiNs relation ship to that mob :P

Really?

Ive never killed this mob nor have I heard of anyone in SiN killing it. But I wasnt around for the last month of EU.

[Rayrox222]

killed baradron with a few friends over the weekend

he had NO loot and skinned a few horns or claws of some sort, quality 3 enchant item

quite the nurf from whatever amount of money (1000 was it?) plus an uber key EVERY time!

won't be killing baradron ever again with the new loot tables, that's for sure!

[bongloads]

I guess people have switched over to Gardoroc now (the named dragon in the center of agon).

See youtube, user name oozma.

[kingkongbanana]

thx alot all whiners now they nerfed the only decent mob in the game and you will never find good pvp in those spots anymore. Ofcourse the hackers just go to another mob. So fucking retarded.

[Makestro]

I guess people have switched over to Gardoroc now (the named dragon in the center of agon).

See youtube.

got to love the hackers that everyone don't think plague this game.

[bladerunner1]

People will always be 10x as likely to post with a negative comment rather than a positive.

this thread is filled with a lot of people angry about the nerf of the baradron, but in the threads before about people abusing it there were about 20x as many posts.

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Overall, the baradron nerf was a good idea and the poeple have spoken. He was far easier than other mobs for the same loot.

Take for instance the dark dragon, tougher mob, similar hits, way less gold. Case rested.

[Makestro]

People will always be 10x as likely to post with a negative comment rather than a positive.

this thread is filled with a lot of people angry about the nerf of the baradron, but in the threads before about people abusing it there were about 20x as many posts.

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Overall, the baradron nerf was a good idea and the poeple have spoken. He was far easier than other mobs for the same loot.

Take for instance the dark dragon, tougher mob, similar hits, way less gold. Case rested.

With your logic trolls should be nerfed. Considering they drop around 48g worth of loot every time they die and only take what... 7 mana missiles to die? compare that to other loot tables.

The mob didn't need nerfed into worthlessness, the GMs need to just watch for the hacker pieces of shit that abused the mob because nerfing it means the hackers will just find a new mob to abuse. It was a bandaid fix for a situation that shouldn't even exist(how the fuck is there still no hack detection system in this game?)

[bladerunner1]

With your logic trolls should be nerfed. Considering they drop around 48g worth of loot every time they die and only take what... 7 mana missiles to die? compare that to other loot tables.

The mob didn't need nerfed into worthlessness, the GMs need to just watch for the hacker pieces of shit that abused the mob because nerfing it means the hackers will just find a new mob to abuse. It was a bandaid fix for a situation that shouldn't even exist(how the fuck is there still no hack detection system in this game?)

Go kill the dark dragon then until they rebalance.

I didnt say that it wasnt an over-nerf, or that AV shouldnt allocate more time into anti-hacks (which undoubtedly they are).

I just said that the baradron used to be easy loots and it was a good idea to respond to the overwhelming demand and put a stop to the current problems. It was a good TEMPORARY FIX until they can do something further about hackers.

Would you prefer they left it and hackers got rich (meanwhile you can occasionally down one with an ENTIRE Party of players versus one hacker killing 3 by the time your done)...... or they temp nerfed it until the anti-cheats are released (presumption but point was made).

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IMO if you answer that you would prefer it to stay where it is I will have no choice but to assume you are a hardcore exploiter and/or hacker.

[Mulciber]

Go kill the dark dragon then until they rebalance.

I didnt say that it wasnt an over-nerf, or that AV shouldnt allocate more time into anti-hacks (which undoubtedly they are).

I just said that the baradron used to be easy loots and it was a good idea to respond to the overwhelming demand and put a stop to the current problems. It was a good TEMPORARY FIX until they can do something further about hackers.

Would you prefer they left it and hackers got rich (meanwhile you can occasionally down one with an ENTIRE Party of players versus one hacker killing 3 by the time your done)...... or they temp nerfed it until the anti-cheats are released (presumption but point was made).

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IMO if you answer that you would prefer it to stay where it is I will have no choice but to assume you are a hardcore exploiter and/or hacker.

qft

time to zerg rush central agon...hackers beware

[bongloads]

qft

time to zerg rush central agon...hackers beware

with 3 NPC cities in such extreme vicinity, there should be nonstop people checking those spots

[Mulciber]

with 3 NPC cities in such extreme vicinity, there should be nonstop people checking those spots

sounds fun to me, at work tho, let me know if we get any ninja loots or kills out there.

get names and report too, u have to have a name or they wont check unfortunately.

[Makestro]

Go kill the dark dragon then until they rebalance.

I didnt say that it wasnt an over-nerf, or that AV shouldnt allocate more time into anti-hacks (which undoubtedly they are).

I just said that the baradron used to be easy loots and it was a good idea to respond to the overwhelming demand and put a stop to the current problems. It was a good TEMPORARY FIX until they can do something further about hackers.

Would you prefer they left it and hackers got rich (meanwhile you can occasionally down one with an ENTIRE Party of players versus one hacker killing 3 by the time your done)...... or they temp nerfed it until the anti-cheats are released (presumption but point was made).

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IMO if you answer that you would prefer it to stay where it is I will have no choice but to assume you are a hardcore exploiter and/or hacker.

I'd just rather GMs do their job so the game doesn't get ruined. My farming spot is legit. I love how you try to call me a exploiting hacker because I disagree with you that bandaid fixes ruin games and the hackers that do play the game get free passes for weeks on end with no punishment.

You're fucking high.

[truthfully]

this may be off topic but i love hacking