Is there a single decent guild on NA1 atm?

[Vexrak]

I have been looking around the forums trying to figure out if there is a single good guild from EU that rerolled to play on NA1. I believe the shipwrecked pirates did and while they were not at the very top of my list of good guilds on EU they were in SBA which was a very good alliance so I am thinking they are the top dogs of NA1.

Is this incorrect? Are there any other notable guilds (small well known pvp guilds included in this) that rerolled? I am quite curious (and no for the record I deffinately do not consider Sinister to be a decent guild).

Seems to me like its just going to be subpar guilds for 3 months in a little pond fighting over who sucks the least. Am I wrong?

P.S this is not a troll.

[Peacekeeper]

i hear exodus syndicate are playing here.

[Tenebrion]

I predict that alot of failed zergs are going to fail at zerging again on NA-1

[McDoogs]

i hear exodus syndicate are playing here.

hahah

[Peacekeeper]

I predict that alot of failed zergs are going to fail at zerging again on NA-1

VG too apparently.

[Tenebrion]

VG too apparently.

VG's been part of several failed zergs. That probably makes them king of the hill of US-1

[KCC989]

No there isn't, kids are gonna die when the EU1 crew roles in.

[McDoogs]

Shadow Pact I hear is full of both ballers and shot callers.

[Maj]

Yarr, me hearties be foundin' "Shadow Pact" fer all dem fancy lads we been hangin' round on EU. Arrrrr.

[Jawsome]

Wait, the guilds on EU-1 were "good".

[grayrage]

Wait, the guilds on EU-1 were "good".

Depends if Good = ability to exploit ;p

Grayrage
DIE
http://www.die-guild.org

[Varcin]

Depends if Good = ability to exploit ;p

Grayrage
DIE
http://www.die-guild.org

so are you advertising your guild as good at exploiting?

[grayrage]

so are you advertising your guild as good at exploiting?

Ok, I 'll bite. How's that? :sly:

[Dxun]

VG's been part of several failed zergs. That probably makes them king of the hill of US-1

CC was the only zerg we were in on EU-1. After Hyperion fell CC became the servers next target. Out of the 50 clans involved in the CC how come its VG that gets singled out? Probably the most recognized clan on both servers at this point. We don't even have to post on these miserable boards to get mentioned.

[Ssly]

CC was the only zerg we were in on EU-1. After Hyperion fell CC became the servers next target. Out of the 50 clans involved in the CC how come its VG that gets singled out? Probably the most recognized clan on both servers at this point. We don't even have to post on these miserable boards to get mentioned.

all press is good press right? that's why firepaw gets mentioned a lot right? it's cause they're good!

[Marxon_VG]

VG too apparently.

ow :(

VG's been part of several failed zergs. That probably makes them king of the hill of US-1

double ow :(

We got zerged, then we were part of one. So what do you mean we were part of several failed zergs?

all press is good press right? that's why firepaw gets mentioned a lot right? it's cause they're good!

Firepaw gets mentioned?

Anyway, we all know in these games how much you hate your enemies, and your BS posts just admits your obvious physical attraction to me.

So stop trying to hide it, and just admit you think about me every time you post.

I mean c'mon, look at that sig.

[Motig-SiN]

I have been looking around the forums trying to figure out if there is a single good guild from EU that rerolled to play on NA1. I believe the shipwrecked pirates did and while they were not at the very top of my list of good guilds on EU they were in SBA which was a very good alliance so I am thinking they are the top dogs of NA1.

Is this incorrect? Are there any other notable guilds (small well known pvp guilds included in this) that rerolled? I am quite curious (and no for the record I deffinately do not consider Sinister to be a decent guild).

Seems to me like its just going to be subpar guilds for 3 months in a little pond fighting over who sucks the least. Am I wrong?

P.S this is not a troll.

You singled Sinister out. Lol. Infamy, respect, fear, Whatever you call it. Ill take that over being called 'good' by some random forum troll.

[Marxon_VG]

You singled Sinister out. Lol. Infamy, respect, fear, Whatever you call it. Ill take that over being called 'good' by some random forum troll.

I know how you feel.

These trolls feel for some reason they need to rationalize why people left their server. I don't know why they are so broken up about it, but they sure as hell are QQing enough.

[Chubbyjesus]

Why is Vexrage still pretending he knows more then he is told?

"If you cant beat em join em" isnt a good redeeming feature for a career DF private, especially when its his only.

Join in your current guild's accomplishments before you share in the associated cockiness... Just as an FYI for those who really thought such a pathetic troll thread was cool.

[Melubb]

Of course it's! ;)

[Tenebrion]

your BS posts just admits your obvious physical attraction to me.


All joking aside, a/s/l?

[Marxon_VG]

All joking aside, a/s/l?

21/f/Miami

In all seriousness, I'm just looking forward to a new server with new politics and a new start.

I'm really not looking to carry any hatreds over from EU-1.

And I do hope those of you on EU-1 the best, and hope the trolls get bored of trying to call all the NA-1 people failures, even though we all know that won't stop as long as they feel they are annoying people.

I really think a lot of the clans moved because of their player bases, not because of failure/success.

[jpmoff]

In all seriousness, I'm just looking forward to a new server with new politics and a new start.

I'm really not looking to carry any hatreds over from EU-1.

And I do hope those of you on EU-1 the best, and hope the trolls get bored of trying to call all the NA-1 people failures, even though we all know that won't stop as long as they feel they are annoying people.

I really think a lot of the clans moved because of their player bases, not because of failure/success.

This.

[NightsSentinel]

Really looking forward to how things play out and future combat encounters. We'll see what happens.

[Zionburns]

I have been looking around the forums trying to figure out if there is a single good guild from EU that rerolled to play on NA1. I believe the shipwrecked pirates did and while they were not at the very top of my list of good guilds on EU they were in SBA which was a very good alliance so I am thinking they are the top dogs of NA1.

Is this incorrect? Are there any other notable guilds (small well known pvp guilds included in this) that rerolled? I am quite curious (and no for the record I deffinately do not consider Sinister to be a decent guild).

Seems to me like its just going to be subpar guilds for 3 months in a little pond fighting over who sucks the least. Am I wrong?

P.S this is not a troll.

SBA = meh they couldnt even take out the savage alliance they had to wait for cotc to do it.

A fair few hyperion said they would return for NA-1 they have a fair chance of getting strong again.

[Yellowbeard]

Depends if Good = ability to exploit ;p

Grayrage
DIE
http://www.die-guild.org

LOL Zerg master #1

[ltankhsd]

SBA = meh they couldnt even take out the savage alliance they had to wait for cotc to do it.


lolwut?

[Vexrak]

SBA = meh they couldnt even take out the savage alliance they had to wait for cotc to do it.

A fair few hyperion said they would return for NA-1 they have a fair chance of getting strong again.

Did you just call SBA "meh" and then suggest that Hyperion was ever at any point in time "strong" in the same sentence? You have hence forth forever lost all credit on these forums.

Jokes and flames aside I really am interested in who the decent guilds are atm on NA1.

[Musent]

I know of a few clans that should be filled with some decent actual players at least.

[Awc2m]

It's a sad day for darkfall when VG is one of the top 10 guilds on the server. LOL

[LordKato]

It's a sad day for darkfall when VG is one of the top 10 guilds on the server. LOL

Please do tell how you came to this conclusion. Granted I am a bit biased because I am in VG, but VG IMO is a very good guild. We have a good mix of Strong PvPers, Good Crafters, and most importantly good people. We don't only attack at 3am like some guilds, we fight our asses off. We have won and we have lost (quite a bit more won than lost I might add) and for the most part we are drama free. Not sure what your basing your opinion on other than just to talk trash.


Kato

[Shaoz]

Wait, the guilds on EU-1 were "good".

None of the current guilds on either server were good, aside from Blood of Cairn. They are, and always have been, above the curve.

All these randoms aren't good or worth mentioning.

Make a name for yourself or stay bottom tier, like bad boys for life.

[somedude84]

......for the most part we are drama free.
Kato

:lmao: This from the people that start threads when they win 6 on 6 :lmao:

[Cross02]

:lmao: This from the people that start threads when they win 6 on 6 :lmao:

Chances are, you're terrible yourself.

It seemed to be trendy and popular to brag about people offering/backing down/losing/winning 5v5's not too terribly long ago though if I recall correctly.

You saying you don't wanna be trendy and cool, somedude84?

[grayrage]

I think what we have here is a bunch of guys who are bitter (and will get worse as time goes on) that they did not make the currect call of rolling on the NA server from launch. Instead they opted to stew on the EU server for THREE months in the hope that AV will let them bring their exploited characters over without significant nerfs.

So, since they are bored to death on EU, they find the only thing to do is whine here and try to propagandize negatively anything goin on on the NA server.

I hate to pop your bubble, but the funnest part of this game is the first days, weeks and months with the land grabs, the politics the skirmishes with non exploited characters and drama. There are TONS of people on NA, TONS of guilds and EVERYONE is having fun.

So if you are trying to convince US, that the NA server sucks....or the guilds on NA suck etc etc blah blah, you can forget it. You might be able to convince your retarded buddies that also did not roll NA, but that's about it.

Meanwhile we will keep having fun on the new, FRESH, NON EXPLOITED server. And all the "good" guilds can stew with their exploited characters on EU nutcupping and rubbing their balls together about how great they are. Honestly, if you really want to prove you are so great a guild, why not play a fresh server without all the exploits? I think we all know the answer to this.

/blah

Grayrage
DIE
http://www.die-guild.org

[doomahx]

Meanwhile we will keep having fun on the new, FRESH, NON EXPLOITED server. And all the "good" guilds can stew with their exploited characters on EU nutcupping and rubbing their balls together about how great they are. Honestly, if you really want to prove you are so great a guild, why not play a fresh server without all the exploits? I think we all know the answer to this.


http://www.die-guild.org

There are people exploiting already. I give it a few weeks before people start whining and bitching again.

[Pilze]

lol gayrage, you are dreaming if you think exploiting and hacking aren't still in DF.

And now we are seeing that the majority of hackers have moved to NA too, that speaks volumes about US players.

NA is the same as EU, just 3 months behind, half the playerbase, and only the loser scrubs starting new chars that couldn't achieve shit on EU trying to be the big fish in a small pond.

Have fun with your scrub fights over who gets the loot the goblin scout.

[grayrage]

You surely are not comparing the level of exploiting that exists now, with the level of exploiting that has/had gone on during the first months of EU, are you? I think everyone knows there will almost surely always be exploits, but AV has proven they activiley go after these and fix them. And the bulk of them have been addressed. Enough so that NA is a much more even playing field then EU ever was.

Fact is, EU was more of a test of who could exploit better then who was better skilled. This is why I hope they do NOT allow EU characters to transfer with all of their skills to US. And obviously this is why the people with rediculously high (exploited) stats DO want to move their characters over.

Grayrage
DIE
http://www.die-guild.org

[doomahx]

You surely are not comparing the level of exploiting that exists now, with the level of exploiting that has/had gone on during the first months of EU, are you? I think everyone knows there will almost surely always be exploits, but AV has proven they activiley go after these and fix them. And the bulk of them have been addressed. Enough so that NA is a much more even playing field then EU ever was.

Fact is, EU was more of a test of who could exploit better then who was better skilled. This is why I hope they do NOT allow EU characters to transfer with all of their skills to US. And obviously this is why the people with rediculously high (exploited) stats DO want to move their characters over.

Grayrage
DIE
http://www.die-guild.org

People on US will be at the same level as people on EU within 3 months. People seem to forget that they have actually made skilling up easier.

[higach]

People on US will be at the same level as people on EU within 3 months. People seem to forget that they have actually made skilling up easier.

ohhh so these next 3 months don't improve EU players at all but they only improve NA players.

People seem to forget that EU is gonna progress just as much in those 3 months as US, keeping their enormous lead.

[Suitepee]

Vexrak,just make your own guild if you're that desperate for elitism. :rolleyes:

[The Legend]

This forum is just begging for trolls... lol, but im not one, so you can try out NME we are a good bunch of people.

[Peacekeeper]

You surely are not comparing the level of exploiting that exists now, with the level of exploiting that has/had gone on during the first months of EU, are you? I think everyone knows there will almost surely always be exploits, but AV has proven they activiley go after these and fix them. And the bulk of them have been addressed. Enough so that NA is a much more even playing field then EU ever was.

Grayrage
DIE
http://www.die-guild.org

they actively go after and fix them? did i miss a couple patches somewhere?

[Marxon_VG]

:lmao: This from the people that start threads when they win 6 on 6 :lmao:

Lol bringing this into another thread already? You clearly are trying to pick a fight. We cleared it up in the thread to which you are referring, but since you simply want to believe what you wish, that is what you will do.

I'm not even sure you are in Exo Syndicate, but rather some random guy that wants to start drama between two guilds.

It's a sad day for darkfall when VG is one of the top 10 guilds on the server. LOL

And look some nobody with an opinion, how odd.

Please do tell how you came to this conclusion. Granted I am a bit biased because I am in VG, but VG IMO is a very good guild. We have a good mix of Strong PvPers, Good Crafters, and most importantly good people. We don't only attack at 3am like some guilds, we fight our asses off. We have won and we have lost (quite a bit more won than lost I might add) and for the most part we are drama free. Not sure what your basing your opinion on other than just to talk trash.


Kato

Kato, people like him are always on game forums, as I'm sure you well know. In here we don't use logic, or fact... we all already know our opinion and we fill in the facts where needed.

The truth is most guilds are a majority of cool players. We just all have our members that come on here and talk trash (I am included in this generalization).

[doomahx]

ohhh so these next 3 months don't improve EU players at all but they only improve NA players.

People seem to forget that EU is gonna progress just as much in those 3 months as US, keeping their enormous lead.


The amount the NA players will be ahead will not be much considering a person can have all of their important skills done. I didn't mean that there should be no restrictions but I am against any sort of blanket "every skill at 25" bullshit.

The main thing I am worried about is Aventurines habit of making quick fix decisions and not really taking a careful look at things. The way it should be handled is simple, set higher EU player skills to the max attained on US for each individual skill IF EU is in fact higher.

Like I said though, it won't be much of a difference. Hell, I was able to get 80+ and 30 mastery within 6 days of grinding.

[higach]

The amount the NA players will be ahead will not be much considering a person can have all of their important skills done. I didn't mean that there should be no restrictions but I am against any sort of blanket "every skill at 25" bullshit.

The main thing I am worried about is Aventurines habit of making quick fix decisions and not really taking a careful look at things. The way it should be handled is simple, set higher EU player skills to the max attained on US for each individual skill IF EU is in fact higher.

Like I said though, it won't be much of a difference. Hell, I was able to get 80+ and 30 mastery within 6 days of grinding.

Archery and melee is a joke with a bloodwall.. you can get sharpshooter and mastery in like 10 days total. Magic is the problem, not only the amount of time, but the MASSIVE amount of reagents needed at higher level elemental.

But that's besides the point.. To me it's pretty obvious what they are gonna do. They left "further restrictions" super super vague on purpose. Anyone expecting them to dish out a bunch of clear restrictions now doesn't understand whats going on. I am 99% sure we won't hear what restrictions there will be until 2+ months. Why? Because they don't know what they are yet. I am willing to bet they are just waiting to see how NA-1 shapes up. In 3 months they will determine how nerfed EU-1 players need to be to stay in the range of current NA-1 players.

They aren't out to ruin your characters and it's not some conspiracy to get more money out of you. They are simply waiting to see if they need to nerf the EU characters or not depending on how developed NA is come October. It is pretty retarded to expect a list of restrictions now considering it will be completely irrelevant in 3 months.

And theres no way they would nerf everything to 25... The most I could see is lowering people with 100 elemental magic in multiple schools and such down to like 50. (and honestly I love people who will still bitch about that when quite frankly if you have 100 elemental let alone multiple schools you exploited thousands and thousands of reagents/gold plain and simple, so you don't deserve to keep it anyway)

[Sonn Fere]

Depends if Good = ability to exploit ;p

Grayrage
DIE
http://www.die-guild.org Lol. Are people going to hold on to this as an excuse to their fail, forever?

[Marxon_VG]

Lol. Are people going to hold on to this as an excuse to their fail, forever?

You say it like it's unreasonable.

They allowed exploiting for so long in this game that it has tainted it forever IMO on the EU server.

I'm not kidding myself though, I'm sure it will be going on on the NA server, just hopefully not to the same extent.

[Ssly]

Meanwhile we will keep having fun on the new, FRESH, NON EXPLOITED server. And all the "good" guilds can stew with their exploited characters on EU nutcupping and rubbing their balls together about how great they are. Honestly, if you really want to prove you are so great a guild, why not play a fresh server without all the exploits? I think we all know the answer to this.


http://www.die-guild.org

I make just about the same amount of money with the mob nerf+gold increase than i did creatively killing mobs before the patch. The gold you can farm is the same as it's always been. You just have to re-grind your character. And from the guilds that have already started grabbing cities. MOST of them were complete failures on EU furthering the point that they think they can hack it on a new server with more zerg recruits.

[crysent]

No there isn't, kids are gonna die when the EU1 crew roles in.

Just keep counting on AV to go through with this transfer as planned in 3 months so you can wreck havok on NA1, afterall AV has done such a wonderful job sticking to and fulfilling its promises so far. I'm CERTAIN in 3 months these transfers will go just as promised....LOL

[Ssly]

Just keep counting on AV to go through with this transfer as planned in 3 months so you can wreck havok on NA1, afterall AV has done such a wonderful job sticking to and fulfilling its promises so far. I'm CERTAIN in 3 months these transfers will go just as promised....LOL

like their july 13th US launch lolololo... oh wait

[Hemick]

Oh goody, I get to smash in Analrage until he quits again. Boy I miss how absolutely terrible DIE was from Warhammer.

[Umberto]

I think what we have here is a bunch of guys who are bitter (and will get worse as time goes on) that they did not make the currect call of rolling on the NA server from launch. Instead they opted to stew on the EU server for THREE months in the hope that AV will let them bring their exploited characters over without significant nerfs.

So, since they are bored to death on EU, they find the only thing to do is whine here and try to propagandize negatively anything goin on on the NA server.

I hate to pop your bubble, but the funnest part of this game is the first days, weeks and months with the land grabs, the politics the skirmishes with non exploited characters and drama. There are TONS of people on NA, TONS of guilds and EVERYONE is having fun.

So if you are trying to convince US, that the NA server sucks....or the guilds on NA suck etc etc blah blah, you can forget it. You might be able to convince your retarded buddies that also did not roll NA, but that's about it.

Meanwhile we will keep having fun on the new, FRESH, NON EXPLOITED server. And all the "good" guilds can stew with their exploited characters on EU nutcupping and rubbing their balls together about how great they are. Honestly, if you really want to prove you are so great a guild, why not play a fresh server without all the exploits? I think we all know the answer to this.

/blah

Grayrage
DIE
http://www.die-guild.org


Well said Gray.

[fay2dumb]

There are quite a few guilds that rerolled on NA that are NOT using their EU guild name. Whether you liked my guild or not, at least we choose to not hide behind a new name.

[Rhade]

I have been looking around the forums trying to figure out if there is a single good guild from EU that rerolled to play on NA1. I believe the shipwrecked pirates did and while they were not at the very top of my list of good guilds on EU they were in SBA which was a very good alliance so I am thinking they are the top dogs of NA1.

Is this incorrect? Are there any other notable guilds (small well known pvp guilds included in this) that rerolled? I am quite curious (and no for the record I deffinately do not consider Sinister to be a decent guild).

Seems to me like its just going to be subpar guilds for 3 months in a little pond fighting over who sucks the least. Am I wrong?

P.S this is not a troll.

I hear Bloodclan Orks are playing on NA-1.

[Maurizio]

Koinonein Knights are a rerolled clan from EU, we weren't anything big but definitely looking to be one of the good clans you are talking about.

[grimjawinflamez]

I just can't wait to see whos on Nifleheim on NA-1 :sly: for they will def. get a small group of new friends come 3 months :ninja: gonna get brutalized bitches hahahaha I say it now.... "I'm calling it" quote me :D

[Dim Mok]

I dunno, I think the people on NA-1 have bigger penises then the guys on EU-1. That's just my observation thus far. :D

[Melubb]

Well, but of course.. :rolleyes:
:idea: http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=204871

[The Critic]

I have been looking around the forums trying to figure out if there is a single good guild from EU that rerolled to play on NA1. I believe the shipwrecked pirates did and while they were not at the very top of my list of good guilds on EU they were in SBA which was a very good alliance so I am thinking they are the top dogs of NA1.

Is this incorrect? Are there any other notable guilds (small well known pvp guilds included in this) that rerolled? I am quite curious (and no for the record I deffinately do not consider Sinister to be a decent guild).

Seems to me like its just going to be subpar guilds for 3 months in a little pond fighting over who sucks the least. Am I wrong?

P.S this is not a troll.

I gotta say bro you're a total retard if you don't think Sin is a decent guild.
What the f, SWPirates? I mean, I respect them a lot, but I honestly never heard of them before this game and their angle is quite pidgeonholed by nature. Only reason SBA was/is any good is UDL.

[notext]

But that's besides the point.. To me it's pretty obvious what they are gonna do. They left "further restrictions" super super vague on purpose. Anyone expecting them to dish out a bunch of clear restrictions now doesn't understand whats going on. I am 99% sure we won't hear what restrictions there will be until 2+ months. Why? Because they don't know what they are yet. I am willing to bet they are just waiting to see how NA-1 shapes up. In 3 months they will determine how nerfed EU-1 players need to be to stay in the range of current NA-1 players.


Wow, someone else gets it.

Thats exactly what i'd do in their shoes too.

[Kay Rica]

Wow, someone else gets it.

Thats exactly what i'd do in their shoes too.

They're going to take the path of least resistance and try not to piss alot of people off.

[Wreatch]

Interesting thread.

[grimjawinflamez]

go ahead and nerf the many hours the EU-1 players have spent grinding their charas to their current status, theres some pissed off people for ya hehe :ninja:

[Haeso]

I have been looking around the forums trying to figure out if there is a single good guild from EU that rerolled to play on NA1. I believe the shipwrecked pirates did and while they were not at the very top of my list of good guilds on EU they were in SBA which was a very good alliance so I am thinking they are the top dogs of NA1.

Is this incorrect? Are there any other notable guilds (small well known pvp guilds included in this) that rerolled? I am quite curious (and no for the record I deffinately do not consider Sinister to be a decent guild).

Seems to me like its just going to be subpar guilds for 3 months in a little pond fighting over who sucks the least. Am I wrong?

P.S this is not a troll.

Short answer, No.

[Marxon_VG]

Short answer, No.

Haeso!!!

[OmegaVG]

Short answer, No.

Hi Haeso.

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/349/haeso.png

[Haeso]

Kept my picture omega, kind of disturbing. It's good to have fans though.

It would seem NA is a cess pool of suck as predicted though, and the game itself still sucks. Was hoping it'd have improved after all this time, maybe another couple of months and it'll get better.

[xxxFistxxx]

Kept my picture omega, kind of disturbing. It's good to have fans though.

It would seem NA is a cess pool of suck as predicted though, and the game itself still sucks. Was hoping it'd have improved after all this time, maybe another couple of months and it'll get better.

LOL @ pic

[Haeso]

LOL @ pic

Are we laughing at pictures posted by people who don't have their own available? It would appear the denizens of NA1 are lower than EU1, here you've devolved into little more than shit-flinging monkeys, truly pathetic.

I'd still like to see proof that there is a single clan here that isn't utter garbage. 3 months won't mean shit after the first week post-transfers. I'll be sure to read the forums then as I have now to watch and laugh at the fail-cascade.

[fay2dumb]

Kept my picture omega, kind of disturbing. It's good to have fans though.

It would seem NA is a cess pool of suck as predicted though, and the game itself still sucks. Was hoping it'd have improved after all this time, maybe another couple of months and it'll get better.

Have you tried it? Its the best fun we've had in a long time. Fairly even playing field atm and a lot of new players.

[xxxFistxxx]

Are we laughing at pictures posted by people who don't have their own available? It would appear the denizens of NA1 are lower than EU1, here you've devolved into little more than shit-flinging monkeys, truly pathetic.

I'd still like to see proof that there is a single clan here that isn't utter garbage. 3 months won't mean shit after the first week post-transfers. I'll be sure to read the forums then as I have now to watch and laugh at the fail-cascade.

no seriously ROFL

This -->:lmao:

[Zaffax]

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/349/haeso.png
Funny shit. This is the type of guy that LARPs for a living.

PS: Magic Missle!!!!

[Maj]

Without going into names there have been several guilds that have impressed me so far on NA. Many guilds with EU origin seem to be down to their most dedicated membership, and that has created some seriously tough fights.

Arrrrr

[Cross02]

Without going into names there have been several guilds that have impressed me so far on NA. Many guilds with EU origin seem to be down to their most dedicated membership, and that has created some seriously tough fights.

Arrrrr

I've been impressed here and there, but more often than not clans end up routing and dying or resorting to relying on naked zerglings.

[Haeso]

Have you tried it? Its the best fun we've had in a long time. Fairly even playing field atm and a lot of new players.

'a lot of new players' is what you call an even playing field, your self esteem isn't that low is it? You see the irony in that statement, right? Essentially whoever was not doing well on EU1 came here rather than wait for transfers hoping either they'd gimp the fuck out of transferred characters or that the few months here will allow them to create their own advantage which is wishful thinking at best, shooting themselves in the foot at worst. As I always have and will continue to, I'll check back on the game when I'm bored in the hopes it'll improve, but so far not so much. I'm not even trying to be an ass here either, there's no other logical reasons for up and leaving. 'bad ping' is not an acceptable excuse. Plenty of NA players dominated EU players on EU-1

But on a more serious note, god no will I ever play this game without my character skills and magic. Whoever runs out of stamina first-fall is not my idea of a good time.

Funny shit. This is the type of guy that LARPs for a living.

PS: Magic Missle!!!!

No, I'm the kind of person who makes more in an hour alt tabbing occasionally to do some work than you do in an entire day.

[Rhade]

'a lot of new players' is what you call an even playing field, your self esteem isn't that low is it? You see the irony in that statement, right? Essentially whoever was not doing well on EU1 came here rather than wait for transfers hoping either they'd gimp the fuck out of transferred characters or that the few months here will allow them to create their own advantage which is wishful thinking at best, shooting themselves in the foot at worst. As I always have and will continue to, I'll check back on the game when I'm bored in the hopes it'll improve, but so far not so much. I'm not even trying to be an ass here either, there's no other logical reasons for up and leaving. 'bad ping' is not an acceptable excuse. Plenty of NA players dominated EU players on EU-1

But on a more serious note, god no will I ever play this game without my character skills and magic. Whoever runs out of stamina first-fall is not my idea of a good time.

People are already well into elemental magic and way past the stamina-fallesque beginner days, and it's barely been a week.

Also, blanket statements are blankets.

Edit: I thought you were dead, btw.
Glad to see you around.

Edit #2: Whatever happened to that brig?

Edit #3: What kind of work do you make alt tabbing out and working for a few minutes at a time? Are you telling me those work-from-home things work? Wtf?

[Haeso]

People are already well into elemental magic and way past the stamina-fallesque beginner days, and it's barely been a week.

Also, blanket statements are blankets.

Edit: I thought you were dead, btw.
Glad to see you around.

I'm not seeing evidence that any clan here is accomplished or good, at all. Nor am I seeing a valid reason for paying 50 bucks and having to grind a new character beyond grasping at the hope of an advantage against the people that were already kicking ass on EU-1 and plan to transfer.

Selling things on the internet is serious business, rhade.

[Prototype]

Hi Haeso.

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/349/haeso.png

bahahahhahahhaah.....:lmao: :lmao:

edit... hahahahahahahhhahhahahahahahahah.... never gets old! bhahahaah

[Rhade]

bahahahhahahhaah.....:lmao: :lmao:

edit... hahahahahahahhhahhahahahahahahah.... never gets old! bhahahaah

Don't see what's funny. He's an average looking guy, and he's actually not overweight, which is more than I can say for most people who hang around Forumfall.

Also, it's a pretty classless move, Omega, to start posting RL pictures of people on a video game forum to attempt to make them look bad. I expect better from you guys.

[Rhade]

I'm not seeing evidence that any clan here is accomplished or good, at all. Nor am I seeing a valid reason for paying 50 bucks and having to grind a new character beyond grasping at the hope of an advantage against the people that were already kicking ass on EU-1 and plan to transfer.

Selling things on the internet is serious business, rhade.

I can't see how you're qualified to make that decision, as you currently are unable to even log into the server.

Yes, there are bad guilds.
I see my fair share of them.

But there are a few worth the time, imo, and the new server is actually pretty enjoyable and a good time.

Take it for what it is, but pretty much everyone I talk to over here is having more fun than they had on EU -- And not all of the people I talk to got rolled over there, quit because they were bad, etc etc -- Seems like that's a favorite line of reasoning for people lately, by the people not playing on NA, yet the people playing here seem to think otherwise. Odd, that.

[Haeso]

I can't see how you're qualified to make that decision, as you currently are unable to even log into the server.

Yes, there are bad guilds.
I see my fair share of them.

But there are a few worth the time, imo, and the new server is actually pretty enjoyable and a good time.

Take it for what it is, but pretty much everyone I talk to over here is having more fun than they had on EU -- And not all of the people I talk to got rolled over there, quit because they were bad, etc etc -- Seems like that's a favorite line of reasoning for people lately, by the people not playing on NA, yet the people playing here seem to think otherwise. Odd, that.


The forums tell me all I need to know about NA. People that couldn't hack it on EU decided they'd like to be king of the losers for 3 months instead of punching bags. Either they'll nerf transferred characters and the userbase will sharply decline, or they won't and things will be the way they were before NA except instead of fighting other NA people with 200+ ping, you'll be fighting the same people that kicked your ass with both of you at lower ping.

Again, I have not seen a valid reasoning behind restarting on NA. Not a single one that doesn't involve escapism. I guess that might be a good reason to some of you, but not really an acceptable answer.

If I'm missing something, enlighten me. I don't give a shit at all anymore, not trying to be an ass. I do not see a valid reason for restarting.

[Pariah]

The forums tell me all I need to know about NA. People that couldn't hack it on EU decided they'd like to be king of the losers for 3 months instead of punching bags. Either they'll nerf transferred characters and the userbase will sharply decline, or they won't and things will be the way they were before NA except instead of fighting other NA people with 200+ ping, you'll be fighting the same people that kicked your ass with both of you at lower ping.

Again, I have not seen a valid reasoning behind restarting on NA. Not a single one that doesn't involve escapism. I guess that might be a good reason to some of you, but not really an acceptable answer.

If I'm missing something, enlighten me. I don't give a shit at all anymore, not trying to be an ass. I do not see a valid reason for restarting.



I really find this d-bags logic ......illogical. In one breath he calls the game stamina-fall, which seems to point to the fact that skill is meaningless in Darkfall, as the only thing that matters is stamina. And then d-bag goes on to say people on NA are hiding from the skilled players on EU. Which is it, a shit game that doesn't take skill into the equation, or a game that does require skill, and we are in hiding? This twat is trying to act like someone he's not. Sorry dude, SMC does not a fortune make. Get a job.

[Damedius]

The forums tell me all I need to know about NA. People that couldn't hack it on EU decided they'd like to be king of the losers for 3 months instead of punching bags. Either they'll nerf transferred characters and the userbase will sharply decline, or they won't and things will be the way they were before NA except instead of fighting other NA people with 200+ ping, you'll be fighting the same people that kicked your ass with both of you at lower ping.

Again, I have not seen a valid reasoning behind restarting on NA. Not a single one that doesn't involve escapism. I guess that might be a good reason to some of you, but not really an acceptable answer.

If I'm missing something, enlighten me. I don't give a shit at all anymore, not trying to be an ass. I do not see a valid reason for restarting.

Your right this game sucks ass. So why do you keep reading the forums. Is your life really that empty? That you have to browse the forums of a game you don't play or like.

[Gunther TheBlack]

Please do tell how you came to this conclusion. Granted I am a bit biased because I am in VG, but VG IMO is a very good guild. We have a good mix of Strong PvPers, Good Crafters, and most importantly good people. We don't only attack at 3am like some guilds, we fight our asses off. We have won and we have lost (quite a bit more won than lost I might add) and for the most part we are drama free. Not sure what your basing your opinion on other than just to talk trash.


Kato

To make it short.

VG is a pretty good guild, but that gets totally overshadowed by the utter miserable long term decisions they make when they are totally wasted IRL.

I see no other explenation for some of the stuff they did :)

[Rhade]

The forums tell me all I need to know about NA. People that couldn't hack it on EU decided they'd like to be king of the losers for 3 months instead of punching bags. Either they'll nerf transferred characters and the userbase will sharply decline, or they won't and things will be the way they were before NA except instead of fighting other NA people with 200+ ping, you'll be fighting the same people that kicked your ass with both of you at lower ping.

Again, I have not seen a valid reasoning behind restarting on NA. Not a single one that doesn't involve escapism. I guess that might be a good reason to some of you, but not really an acceptable answer.



If I'm missing something, enlighten me. I don't give a shit at all anymore, not trying to be an ass. I do not see a valid reason for restarting.

A) Fun (I know, crazy.)
B) A different political landscape.
C) A fresh start with and a chance to re-roll from the beginning while having knowledge of the game and not feeling around in the dark.
D) Lower ping.
E) The whole "We sieged you at 3 am, this is a euro server, deal with it" excuse doesn't fly anymore. This way, clans have to own up to the truth; that they're too scared to siege at any other time.


I could go on. There are plenty of reasons, and it's very narrow sighted and, frankly, stupid, to just make broad, sweeping assumptions about thousands of different players with thousands of different reasons to why they chose to go NA. It's very arrogant of you to act like you can fully understand why people are choosing to go to a new server, when that simply isn't possible.

You're a cool guy, but stop being an arrogant fucking prick.
Mine, and many other peoples' decisions to roll NA had absolutely nothing to do with my win/loss record on EU, which was actually quite good, for my personal record. I wanted to start my own clan and run it the way I felt it needed to be ran, and a new server provided a new opportunity to do that it. I know, I know, it doesn't fit the Haeso's omniscient mold of "omg u r re-rolling u mus b bad rite? LOL", but then again, you need to realize that just because you think something may be somewhat near accurate, doesn't make it true, and I also believe that you should realize that if your only source of what's going on in-game is the forums, you're talking out of your ass. So many things happen in game that aren't plastered all over the forums, like in EU clan discussion. My clan regularly dusts 2 or 3x our numbers, yet we don't come running to the boards to jack off in a Merc-esque thread, nor do people usually make a post about every fucking PvP fight, like attention starved kids seemed prone to do on EU-1. Frankly, if you're making all these assumptions just because you're reading forumfall; then, by definition, you're very ignorant of the situation, you quite virtually have no idea what you're really talking about, and are just making some noise and giving it validation "because Haeso said so."


If you truly think that it's the correct move to allow people to transfer over from a 6+ month old server onto a 3 month server, then I really don't know what else to say to you.

[Rhade]

To make it short.

VG is a pretty good guild, but that gets totally overshadowed by the utter miserable long term decisions they make when they are totally wasted IRL.

I see no other explenation for some of the stuff they did :)

Believe it or not, the VG guys don't really drink too much.
Besides Trust, of course.

[The Critic]

'a lot of new players' is what you call an even playing field, your self esteem isn't that low is it? You see the irony in that statement, right? Essentially whoever was not doing well on EU1 came here rather than wait for transfers hoping either they'd gimp the fuck out of transferred characters or that the few months here will allow them to create their own advantage which is wishful thinking at best, shooting themselves in the foot at worst. As I always have and will continue to, I'll check back on the game when I'm bored in the hopes it'll improve, but so far not so much. I'm not even trying to be an ass here either, there's no other logical reasons for up and leaving. 'bad ping' is not an acceptable excuse. Plenty of NA players dominated EU players on EU-1

But on a more serious note, god no will I ever play this game without my character skills and magic. Whoever runs out of stamina first-fall is not my idea of a good time.



No, I'm the kind of person who makes more in an hour alt tabbing occasionally to do some work than you do in an entire day.

You were terrible at this game, but I agree with the majority of your opinions.

[Gunther TheBlack]

No, I'm the kind of person who makes more in an hour alt tabbing occasionally to do some work than you do in an entire day.

Are you comparing yourself with an unemployed person or do you work in the sex industry?

;)

[Mulciber]

I've been impressed here and there, but more often than not clans end up routing and dying or resorting to relying on naked zerglings.

sup vanidar,

To be on topic, Black Shields have brought some great fights to middle agon area. Always looking forward to more. Tacitally, you keep us on our toes alot :)-

[fay2dumb]

To make it short.

VG is a pretty good guild, but that gets totally overshadowed by the utter miserable long term decisions they make when they are totally wasted IRL.

I see no other explenation for some of the stuff they did :)

You on NA? I'd like to know where the 3 man guild of DDI went.

[Foxdie]

Believe it or not, the VG guys don't really drink too much.
Besides Trust, of course.

I call BS on this one, 4 hours til the stone goes vuln? yeah ima have a few.

[Benevolence]

From my experience in the middle of agon area:

Black shields are quite good, and one of the few willing to roll in good gear. Arsenal attacked us once and they had some good group coordination. No1 else stood out. not to say there arent decent clans, but no1 else that stands out.



Keep in mind I have not fought with every clan there is. Far from it. this is only from personal experience, which is limited to the middle agon area for now.

[Cross02]

sup vanidar,

To be on topic, Black Shields have brought some great fights to middle agon area. Always looking forward to more. Tacitally, you keep us on our toes alot :)-

I have quite a few sets of armor made by you by now actually, Vagrant. :)

[Prototype]

sup vanidar,

To be on topic, Black Shields have brought some great fights to middle agon area. Always looking forward to more. Tacitally, you keep us on our toes alot :)-

they are the only guild that can on NA-1. every other guild we fight is trash and they dont bring loot. especially brotherhood of the spider. god... they suck.:bang:

[Mulciber]

I have quite a few sets of armor made by you by now actually, Vagrant. :)

remember when you took my smelting loot from ottenhal, i told you i hoped that your crafts failed,

same goes for that armor buddy :) i hope it all breaks on you simultaneously at the worst possible moment haha

My alt is our armorsmith for the most part so ya, alot of apollo gear will bear my stamp.

we need to 1v1 ingame sometime, not for epeen jousting but so i can practice hehe

[Vexrak]

I gotta say bro you're a total retard if you don't think Sin is a decent guild.
What the f, SWPirates? I mean, I respect them a lot, but I honestly never heard of them before this game and their angle is quite pidgeonholed by nature. Only reason SBA was/is any good is UDL.

Undead Lords is pretty cool guys that doesn't afraid didn't know they rerolled. I am sure they are stomping on the scrubs.

[Yearn]

Lords of the Dead are gaining momentum daily, as are a select few other guilds. Talk is cheap and decent is a matter of perspective, but I fully expect the proverbial shit to hit the fan sooner rather than later. We'll let our actions on the battlefield speak for themselves.

[Osium]

Lords of the Dead are gaining momentum daily, as are a select few other guilds. Talk is cheap and decent is a matter of perspective, but I fully expect the proverbial shit to hit the fan sooner rather than later. We'll let our actions on the battlefield speak for themselves.

You better nutcup like crazy.

[Septus]

all press is good press right? that's why firepaw gets mentioned a lot right? it's cause they're good!

rofl

[Yearn]

Talk is cheap

Especially coming from the leader of a guild on a different server. Wrong Clan Discussion forum, guy.

[Prototype]

Especially coming from the leader of a guild on a different server. Wrong Clan Discussion forum, guy.

you just quoted yourself.... get off of forumfall zerger. LotD sucks.

[Makestro]

Lords of the Dead are gaining momentum daily, as are a select few other guilds. Talk is cheap and decent is a matter of perspective, but I fully expect the proverbial shit to hit the fan sooner rather than later. We'll let our actions on the battlefield speak for themselves.

The couple lotd guys I messed with day 2(my day 1) ran away. If by momentum you mean your sprint skill is increasing daily I would have to agree.

I wont sit around and stroke my ego to much though, I've only killed a hand full of people thus far but have avoided death until monday morning. You betterh ope you're actually gaining momentum and not just talking our your ass because your guys time is coming.

[Gunther TheBlack]

You on NA? I'd like to know where the 3 man guild of DDI went.

You bragging again about mass recruiting?

;)

[Marxon_VG]

they are the only guild that can on NA-1.

I wouldn't make blanket generalizations like this.

Black shields may be the only clan you have "fought" so far that dresses up for their parties and know how to play, but they aren't the only clan like this. I can tell you for a fact that we have similar ideals as far as how to pvp as blacksheilds, since we were only till recently, in the same clan.

I would also give some breathing room to some of the newer clans that are trying to train their new players. Some of the clans that have been spamming race are probably up to their ears right now in noob questions let alone pvp tactics at this point.

[Keno]

Gunther, how about you finally grow a pair and respond to me here on the boards or in game tells, and duel me? Or if you want, I'll take on your entire 3 man guild.

[Marxon_VG]

Gunther, how about you finally grow a pair and respond to me here on the boards or in game tells, and duel me? Or if you want, I'll take on your entire 3 man guild.

He scurd.

[fay2dumb]

You bragging again about mass recruiting?

;)

We're in your hamlet. Logging your trees.

[Melubb]

You better nutcup like crazy.
Hi Osium.:rolleyes:

[Zintex]

CC was the only zerg we were in on EU-1. After Hyperion fell CC became the servers next target. Out of the 50 clans involved in the CC how come its VG that gets singled out? Probably the most recognized clan on both servers at this point. We don't even have to post on these miserable boards to get mentioned.

that's cause people will kill you even more

[Gunther TheBlack]

Gunther, how about you finally grow a pair and respond to me here on the boards or in game tells, and duel me? Or if you want, I'll take on your entire 3 man guild.


Never had the idea that i don't give a rat's ass?

[Gunther TheBlack]

We're in your hamlet. Logging your trees.

Build the thaumaturgust asap. It will unlock a building that was never build on EU-1 and i'm sure you like it :)

[Marxon_VG]

Build the thaumaturgust asap. It will unlock a building that was never build on EU-1 and i'm sure you like it :)

We need to build that thing ASAP so our enchanter can get the hell out of NPC cities.

[Cross02]

I wouldn't make blanket generalizations like this.

Black shields may be the only clan you have "fought" so far that dresses up for their parties and know how to play, but they aren't the only clan like this. I can tell you for a fact that we have similar ideals as far as how to pvp as blacksheilds, since we were only till recently, in the same clan.

I would also give some breathing room to some of the newer clans that are trying to train their new players. Some of the clans that have been spamming race are probably up to their ears right now in noob questions let alone pvp tactics at this point.

Two VG Generals and one or two competitive PvPers left due to being unhappy with how things were run, their focus, priorities, and policies.

To be fair to BkS members though, this splinter is only a small fraction of Black Shields; it's actually a diverse clan of like-minded EU vets from multiple different clans that have all been tested and met or passed high standards before they even wore a BkS tag.

We have enjoyed all the great PvP we've been engaged in and appreciate all the class from our enemies in this thread and look forward to some challenging engagements in the future.

[Marxon_VG]

That's fair, I was just commenting on a generalization someone made saying pretty much all clans suck on NA.

[Zaffax]

Two VG Generals and one or two competitive PvPers left due to being unhappy with how things were run, their focus, priorities, and policies.

To be fair to BkS members though, this splinter is only a small fraction of Black Shields; it's actually a diverse clan of like-minded EU vets from multiple different clans that have all been tested and met or passed high standards before they even wore a BkS tag.

We have enjoyed all the great PvP we've been engaged in and appreciate all the class from our enemies in this thread and look forward to some challenging engagements in the future.

I see you got a little power hungry there Vanidar. What happened, you wanted to be a SG and when you didn't get your way you rage quit? Although it was nice having those who left in the guild (of whom I can count on a hand), it really is funny to quit a guild and than try to ally them immediately after. What, having second thoughts about leaving already?
Although I wish yall best of luck, I do find it funny the way yall up and decided to quit on a dime without even consulting the guild first. One day you are playing with us with no complaints and then out of the blue you form your own guild.

[Cross02]

I see you got a little power hungry there Vanidar. What happened, you wanted to be a SG and when you didn't get your way you rage quit? Although it was nice having those who left in the guild (of whom I can count on a hand), it really is funny to quit a guild and than try to ally them immediately after. What, having second thoughts about leaving already?
Although I wish yall best of luck, I do find it funny the way yall up and decided to quit on a dime without even consulting the guild first. One day you are playing with us with no complaints and then out of the blue you form your own guild.

Unfortunately you are misinformed.

Unfortunately this is now going to have to be done in public, I was really trying to avoid this.

Unfortunately you've just inevitably upset a lot of people, and I know a few from your clan that will be very very upset because of all this sadly. Thank you for throwing shit on this situation.

Let's do this in sections, so I can focus and shoot down each one of your points as they come in like a zerg. You know how zergs work, right Zaffa?

A) Power hungry; desire to be an SG.

Negative. My rank in VG was actually a General, and if you look in game, that is still the same rank I have in BkS. I have said it to multiple people on multiple occassions, I would rather be a recruit in a guild that's run properly and efficiently and would be extremely happy doing so -- this way I can focus on PvP and enjoying the game instead of sitting in vent talking to a leader from another clan talk about building modules or have to deal with poor troll attempts on the boards. My "power" in Darkfall Online (lol) hasn't really changed much -- the only difference is the philosophy and focus of the clan I'm holding the same amount of "power" in.

B) Ally them immediately after.

I have a lot of personal friends in said clan whom I enjoy talking to and playing with. I spent a lot of time with them and worked side by side with them and have a lot of respect for these people. I hope they know who they are -- by the way, it's definitely not you. We had no desire to attack VG with no military leadership left and, to be honest, with a lot of their members still on EU and only a few members who actually excelled in PvP, we didn't want to hinder our friends in any way at all by engaging them and most likely looting them. We set them to friendly because of this and we recieved a "wary" in response. All of this happened mainly due to relationships between people in the clans, personal relationships -- not inter-clan relationships. Emotion, pride, and many other things were involved from either or both sides due to both sides being close for a good amount of time. Also, if you look in game again Zaffa, that is if you even play, you can check our status is "neutral" toward VG.

C) Leave without consulting the proper people and leaving in a gracious and mature way.

This was done. There was some confusion prior to NA about if I was even going to play and if your clans' policies were going to change. Unfortunately, when I did realize I would have the money to play, your clan had obviously not changed anything and a lot of us were still very unhappy with how the system worked and still the lack of focus and emphasis on personal PvP ability -- not the people, but the system and the unwillingness to bend or adapt to a game that need adapting to in order to be successful and actually achieve worthy victories in pvp engagements. Keno and Dxun both wished us the best of luck and even said something to the effect of "I hope we can work together in the future, good luck" at the time. Keep running your mouth on subjects you're uninformed about and this might be quite a long post. You seem to be out of your league here, Zaffa.

D) Out of the blue. No complaints. No warning.

Wrong again. If you could actually read Rhade's post before Omega censored it on the boards so people like you could be manipulated to feel the way you do, you would probably understand the situation better, Zaffa. If you could read the Officer board prior to NA you would understand better than better -- you would be near omniscient. The simple fact is, the pvp leaders had been trying to work on bringing these issues that effected our in-game ability for months to the Conclave before NA launched. If you want, I can elaborate at a later time on them and the way it was poorly handled, even disrespectfully treated, by some of your Conclave -- the inactive ones, ironically enough. We felt we tried every avenue of compromise and diplomacy for months and honestly felt we'd exhausted every option -- to make it clear to you, as your Conclave member said verbatim on just one of the subjects that we were unhappy about and just trying to fix so we could play with our friends happily -- "it's not up for debate". The responsibility of trying to fix things was ours and we carried that out the best we could.

Zaffa, I've never had a problem with you. You sat in vent and asked a lot of questions about the game because you played for a month then unsubbed and came around every now and then when a patch was released. I was friendly towards you and answered your questions and did what I could to help you be a better pvper. However, you come here in a public setting and try to flame something you know absolutely nothing about and run your mouth to the detriment of your own character and your clan's name. Instead of doing what you always do and asking people on vent what was happening, why don't you ask Omega to find Rhade's post and just give it a read?

I'm personal friends with Dxun and a lot of VG's general officers and I'm not interested in starting a feud here or a flame war. This is me defending my name and my actions and my clan. Like I've said multiple times, I wish the best for VG and would bend over backwards in any way I could to help my friends out over there and hope they still feel the same respect for me. It angers me to no end that you've now made our friendship even more strained with this misinformed flame thread.

Black Shields is compromised of many different EU pvp vets from many different EU clans, only a small fraction is the VG pvpers that you know. Attempting to make them look bad by this small personal issue that you had no business in is probably isn't the best thing to do. I really don't understand why you'd even waste your time though if you weren't impressed with what we've done and accomplished in such a short time -- ask around.

If you want to carry this on further, I'll gladly do so in private. This is not a dispute between BkS and VG -- like I've said already, only a small fraction are the VG pvpers -- and as such should not be conducted on these boards.

[Mulciber]

oo

sooo,,,

how about cake man... doesnt it beat pie's ass?

i personally have very little contact with VG ever, unfortunately. They are a guild ive always wanted to have a few more run-ins with.

[garfu]

Unfortunately you are misinformed.

Unfortunately this is now going to have to be done in public, I was really trying to avoid this.

Unfortunately you've just inevitably upset a lot of people, and I know a few from your clan that will be very very upset because of all this sadly. Thank you for throwing shit on this situation.

Let's do this in sections, so I can focus and shoot down each one of your points as they come in like a zerg. You know how zergs work, right Zaffa?

A) Power hungry; desire to be an SG.

Negative. My rank in VG was actually a General, and if you look in game, that is still the same rank I have in BkS. I have said it to multiple people on multiple occassions, I would rather be a recruit in a guild that's run properly and efficiently and would be extremely happy doing so -- this way I can focus on PvP and enjoying the game instead of sitting in vent talking to a leader from another clan talk about building modules or have to deal with poor troll attempts on the boards. My "power" in Darkfall Online (lol) hasn't really changed much -- the only difference is the philosophy and focus of the clan I'm holding the same amount of "power" in.

B) Ally them immediately after.

I have a lot of personal friends in said clan whom I enjoy talking to and playing with. I spent a lot of time with them and worked side by side with them and have a lot of respect for these people. I hope they know who they are -- by the way, it's definitely not you. We had no desire to attack VG with no military leadership left and, to be honest, with a lot of their members still on EU and only a few members who actually excelled in PvP, we didn't want to hinder our friends in any way at all by engaging them and most likely looting them. We set them to friendly because of this and we recieved a "wary" in response. All of this happened mainly due to relationships between people in the clans, personal relationships -- not inter-clan relationships. Emotion, pride, and many other things were involved from either or both sides due to both sides being close for a good amount of time. Also, if you look in game again Zaffa, that is if you even play, you can check our status is "neutral" toward VG.

C) Leave without consulting the proper people and leaving in a gracious and mature way.

This was done. There was some confusion prior to NA about if I was even going to play and if your clans' policies were going to change. Unfortunately, when I did realize I would have the money to play, your clan had obviously not changed anything and a lot of us were still very unhappy with how the system worked -- not the people, but the system and the unwillingness to bend or adapt to a game that need adapting to in order to be successful and actually achieve worthy victories in pvp engagements. Keno and Dxun both wished us the best of luck and even said something to the effect of "I hope we can work together in the future, good luck" at the time. Keep running your mouth on subjects you're uninformed about and this might be quite a long post. You seem to be out of your league here, Zaffa.

D) Out of the blue. No complaints. No warning.

Wrong again. If you could actually read Rhade's post before Omega censored it on the boards so people like you could be manipulated to feel the way you do, you would probably understand the situation better, Zaffa. If you could read the Officer board prior to NA you would understand better than better -- you would be near omniscient. The simple fact is, the pvp leaders had been trying to work on bringing these issues that effected our in-game ability for months to the Conclave before NA launched. If you want, I can elaborate at a later time on them and the way it was poorly handled, even disrespectfully treated, by some of your Conclave -- the inactive ones, ironically enough. We felt we tried every avenue of compromise and diplomacy for months and honestly felt we'd exhausted every option -- to make it clear to you, as your Conclave member said verbatim on just one of the subjects that we were unhappy about and just trying to fix so we could play with our friends happily -- "it's not up for debate". The responsibility of trying to fix things was ours and we carried that out the best we could.

Zaffa, I've never had a problem with you. You sat in vent and asked a lot of questions about the game because you played for a month then unsubbed and came around every now and then when a patch was released. I was friendly towards you and answered your questions and did what I could to help you be a better pvper. However, you come here in a public setting and try to flame something you know absolutely nothing about and run your mouth to the detriment of your own character and your clan's name. Instead of doing what you always do and asking people on vent what was happening, why don't you ask Omega to find Rhade's post and just give it a read?

I'm personal friends with Dxun and a lot of VG's general officers and I'm not interested in starting a feud here or a flame war. This is me defending my name and my actions and my clan. Like I've said multiple times, I wish the best for VG and would bend over backwards in any way I could to help my friends out over there and hope they still feel the same respect for me. It angers me to no end that you've now made our friendship even more strained with this misinformed flame thread.

Black Shields is compromised of many different EU pvp vets from many different EU clans, only a small fraction is the VG pvpers that you know. Attempting to make them look bad by this small personal issue that you had no business in is probably isn't the best thing to do. I really don't understand why you'd even waste your time though if you weren't impressed with what we've done and accomplished in such a short time -- ask around.

If you want to carry this on further, I'll gladly do so in private. This is not a dispute between BkS and VG -- like I've said already, only a small fraction are the VG pvpers -- and as such should not be conducted on these boards.

http://i.ehow.com/images/GlobalPhoto/Articles/2109774/PIC0002_Full.jpg

[Cross02]

oo

sooo,,,

how about cake man... doesnt it beat pie's ass?

i personally have very little contact with VG ever, unfortunately. They are a guild ive always wanted to have a few more run-ins with.

Didn't Apollo pick up a city recently? You guys moved out of Ottenhal?

[Mulciber]

Didn't Apollo pick up a city recently? You guys moved out of Ottenhal?

nah ottenhal is our city for the most part.

we needed a city to make Occidio Vamphunt happy.

city building is like crack to him

u know that guy who bends over on broken glass and then flagellates himself with a barbed cat-o-nine-tailes while chanting verses from the old testament???

Thats Occidio.

we had to get him a city so he can sweep the floors and cook our food.

tbh dont expect us to leave anytime soon.

[Dxun]

oo

sooo,,,

how about cake man... doesnt it beat pie's ass?

i personally have very little contact with VG ever, unfortunately. They are a guild ive always wanted to have a few more run-ins with.

We ran into each other just the other day. We came out on top 6 siege hammers heavy ;)

Good fight... See you out there again soon.

[Dxun]

http://i.ehow.com/images/GlobalPhoto/Articles/2109774/PIC0002_Full.jpg

exactly...

[Rhade]

We ran into each other just the other day. We came out on top 6 siege hammers heavy ;)

Good fight... See you out there again soon.

<3 Truxn.

[Gunther TheBlack]

Unfortunately you are misinformed.

Unfortunately this is now going to have to be done in public, I was really trying to avoid this.

Unfortunately you've just inevitably upset a lot of people, and I know a few from your clan that will be very very upset because of all this sadly. Thank you for throwing shit on this situation.

Let's do this in sections, so I can focus and shoot down each one of your points as they come in like a zerg. You know how zergs work, right Zaffa?

A) Power hungry; desire to be an SG.

Negative. My rank in VG was actually a General, and if you look in game, that is still the same rank I have in BkS. I have said it to multiple people on multiple occassions, I would rather be a recruit in a guild that's run properly and efficiently and would be extremely happy doing so -- this way I can focus on PvP and enjoying the game instead of sitting in vent talking to a leader from another clan talk about building modules or have to deal with poor troll attempts on the boards. My "power" in Darkfall Online (lol) hasn't really changed much -- the only difference is the philosophy and focus of the clan I'm holding the same amount of "power" in.

B) Ally them immediately after.

I have a lot of personal friends in said clan whom I enjoy talking to and playing with. I spent a lot of time with them and worked side by side with them and have a lot of respect for these people. I hope they know who they are -- by the way, it's definitely not you. We had no desire to attack VG with no military leadership left and, to be honest, with a lot of their members still on EU and only a few members who actually excelled in PvP, we didn't want to hinder our friends in any way at all by engaging them and most likely looting them. We set them to friendly because of this and we recieved a "wary" in response. All of this happened mainly due to relationships between people in the clans, personal relationships -- not inter-clan relationships. Emotion, pride, and many other things were involved from either or both sides due to both sides being close for a good amount of time. Also, if you look in game again Zaffa, that is if you even play, you can check our status is "neutral" toward VG.

C) Leave without consulting the proper people and leaving in a gracious and mature way.

This was done. There was some confusion prior to NA about if I was even going to play and if your clans' policies were going to change. Unfortunately, when I did realize I would have the money to play, your clan had obviously not changed anything and a lot of us were still very unhappy with how the system worked and still the lack of focus and emphasis on personal PvP ability -- not the people, but the system and the unwillingness to bend or adapt to a game that need adapting to in order to be successful and actually achieve worthy victories in pvp engagements. Keno and Dxun both wished us the best of luck and even said something to the effect of "I hope we can work together in the future, good luck" at the time. Keep running your mouth on subjects you're uninformed about and this might be quite a long post. You seem to be out of your league here, Zaffa.

D) Out of the blue. No complaints. No warning.

Wrong again. If you could actually read Rhade's post before Omega censored it on the boards so people like you could be manipulated to feel the way you do, you would probably understand the situation better, Zaffa. If you could read the Officer board prior to NA you would understand better than better -- you would be near omniscient. The simple fact is, the pvp leaders had been trying to work on bringing these issues that effected our in-game ability for months to the Conclave before NA launched. If you want, I can elaborate at a later time on them and the way it was poorly handled, even disrespectfully treated, by some of your Conclave -- the inactive ones, ironically enough. We felt we tried every avenue of compromise and diplomacy for months and honestly felt we'd exhausted every option -- to make it clear to you, as your Conclave member said verbatim on just one of the subjects that we were unhappy about and just trying to fix so we could play with our friends happily -- "it's not up for debate". The responsibility of trying to fix things was ours and we carried that out the best we could.

Zaffa, I've never had a problem with you. You sat in vent and asked a lot of questions about the game because you played for a month then unsubbed and came around every now and then when a patch was released. I was friendly towards you and answered your questions and did what I could to help you be a better pvper. However, you come here in a public setting and try to flame something you know absolutely nothing about and run your mouth to the detriment of your own character and your clan's name. Instead of doing what you always do and asking people on vent what was happening, why don't you ask Omega to find Rhade's post and just give it a read?

I'm personal friends with Dxun and a lot of VG's general officers and I'm not interested in starting a feud here or a flame war. This is me defending my name and my actions and my clan. Like I've said multiple times, I wish the best for VG and would bend over backwards in any way I could to help my friends out over there and hope they still feel the same respect for me. It angers me to no end that you've now made our friendship even more strained with this misinformed flame thread.

Black Shields is compromised of many different EU pvp vets from many different EU clans, only a small fraction is the VG pvpers that you know. Attempting to make them look bad by this small personal issue that you had no business in is probably isn't the best thing to do. I really don't understand why you'd even waste your time though if you weren't impressed with what we've done and accomplished in such a short time -- ask around.

If you want to carry this on further, I'll gladly do so in private. This is not a dispute between BkS and VG -- like I've said already, only a small fraction are the VG pvpers -- and as such should not be conducted on these boards.


Another thread with VG drama ;)

Gotta say, the VG soap is pretty entertaining :)

[Marxon_VG]

Another thread with VG drama ;)

Gotta say, the VG soap is pretty entertaining :)

I can't believe you quoted that entire thing just for those two lines.

You could have just put "VG Drama" in there and it would have at least been funny.

Drama

No need for this Zaffa, he left for his own reasons. No need to bring it out on the forums. I personally wish them the best of luck.

Dramatic response to drama

No need to respond, you know Zaffa is going to troll you Van, he does to everyone. There was no need for that huge response. It seemed through some of your comments I saw previously on the forums that you were trying to get an excuse to make a post like this. You shouldn't have been making those little snips about you leaving if you didn't want someone to respond, just keep it to yourself there was no reason to bring it here even with Zaffa trolling you. A shouting match here will be bad for both parties.

Summary: You're both stupid if you are going to debate this on the forums, your reasons for leaving are your own. Bring it to tells.

[Grimhawke[EB]]

Another thread with VG drama ;)

Gotta say, the VG soap is pretty entertaining :)

This is a pretty entertaining episode:
http://vangarianmeeting.ytmnd.com/

[Marxon_VG]

;3629384']This is a pretty entertaining episode:
http://vangarianmeeting.ytmnd.com/

Yeah, they did a good job with that.

[Demrick]

For now on there only couple of good guild pvp'ers like black shield that we encounter and hero of fate i think who they figth will all they gots until the end sad they all die .but i respect people willing to lose good gear for a good figth!! Hoo!Haa!

for the rest they just attack when they can zerg at 20 vs 4 even then, their attemp fail.


:D

se you all on battlefield

ARSNL

[fay2dumb]

Vanidar,

Well, have to say I'm one of those that's pretty upset at this massive stroke of e-peen you posted. As one of those who actually read Rhade and yours departure post AND the officer forums, I still disagree with what you posted. You might have 'intented' the post as a flame towards Zaffax, but all you ended up doing is twisting what happened to make what happen more important than what it was. Three of your guys (Vanidar, Rhade, and Darius) were officers in VG. You left the guild and tried to stay allied with us so that your own guild didn't fail. And you posted a wall of text to cast our guild in a bad light because we refused to ally you.

A) You were to be generals as of NA. You guys broke off before the game came out, therefore never got that rank. BTW, we do have military leaders left in our guild. The fact that some of them did not reroll is hurting us more than your leaving.

B) You guys only set your status to neutral after you were told we weren't going to ally ex-members. It started as friendly when the game came out. You guys claimed a hamlet close to our city. It would suck for your guild if we decided to one day wipe it out, however I doubt that will be today. :p

C) This point I won't argue with. I saw the posts.

D) I saw the posts. You had some valid points. But if you cared about the guild enough, you wouldn't have left it. Our guild is still strong and starting on your own in NA is probably doomed to failure unless you plan on PKing out of a chaos city or mass recruit, which I know you won't.

EDIT: Like Marxon said. If you didn't intend to flame VG and just Zaffax, you should keep it to PMs. That said, I do miss you guys.

[Cross02]

Vanidar,

Well, have to say I'm one of those that's pretty upset at this massive stroke of e-peen you posted. As one of those who actually read Rhade and yours departure post AND the officer forums, I still disagree with what you posted. You might have 'intented' the post as a flame towards Zaffax, but all you ended up doing is twisting what happened to make what happen more important than what it was. Three of your guys (Vanidar, Rhade, and Darius) were officers in VG. You left the guild and tried to stay allied with us so that your own guild didn't fail. And you posted a wall of text to cast our guild in a bad light because we refused to ally you.

A) You were to be generals as of NA. You guys broke off before the game came out, therefore never got that rank. BTW, we do have military leaders left in our guild. The fact that some of them did not reroll is hurting us more than your leaving.

B) You guys only set your status to neutral after you were told we weren't going to ally ex-members. It started as friendly when the game came out. You guys claimed a hamlet close to our city. It would suck for your guild if we decided to one day wipe it out, however I doubt that will be today. :p

C) This point I won't argue with. I saw the posts.

D) I saw the posts. You had some valid points. But if you cared about the guild enough, you wouldn't have left it. Our guild is still strong and starting on your own in NA is probably doomed to failure unless you plan on PKing out of a chaos city or mass recruit, which I know you won't.

EDIT: Like Marxon said. If you didn't intend to flame VG and just Zaffax, you should keep it to PMs. That said, I do miss you guys.

It wasn't a flame, it was a defense.

It was an isolated incident with a single person, and my counter was targeted at that single person. Since then we've talked about it and reached an understanding with each other. I invite you to do that same.

I disagree with you in quite a few places and I think you need to hear another side of your story, but I'd rather not discuss that here -- I have no interest in further polluting these shiny new boards. If you'd like though, I can definitely refute your points and we can continue this pointless dance of random opinions, white knighting, and hearsay.

Check your pms.

For now on there only couple of good guild pvp'ers like black shield that we encounter and hero of fate i think who they figth will all they gots until the end sad they all die .but i respect people willing to lose good gear for a good figth!! Hoo!Haa!

for the rest they just attack when they can zerg at 20 vs 4 even then, their attemp fail.


:D

se you all on battlefield

ARSNL

I have no idea what this guy is saying, but it sounds like he would be a hell of a guy to have on ventrilo pvping with.

[Rhade]

Vanidar,

Well, have to say I'm one of those that's pretty upset at this massive stroke of e-peen you posted. As one of those who actually read Rhade and yours departure post AND the officer forums, I still disagree with what you posted. You might have 'intented' the post as a flame towards Zaffax, but all you ended up doing is twisting what happened to make what happen more important than what it was. Three of your guys (Vanidar, Rhade, and Darius) were officers in VG. You left the guild and tried to stay allied with us so that your own guild didn't fail. And you posted a wall of text to cast our guild in a bad light because we refused to ally you.

A) You were to be generals as of NA. You guys broke off before the game came out, therefore never got that rank. BTW, we do have military leaders left in our guild. The fact that some of them did not reroll is hurting us more than your leaving.

B) You guys only set your status to neutral after you were told we weren't going to ally ex-members. It started as friendly when the game came out. You guys claimed a hamlet close to our city. It would suck for your guild if we decided to one day wipe it out, however I doubt that will be today. :p

C) This point I won't argue with. I saw the posts.

D) I saw the posts. You had some valid points. But if you cared about the guild enough, you wouldn't have left it. Our guild is still strong and starting on your own in NA is probably doomed to failure unless you plan on PKing out of a chaos city or mass recruit, which I know you won't.

EDIT: Like Marxon said. If you didn't intend to flame VG and just Zaffax, you should keep it to PMs. That said, I do miss you guys.

.
See you in vent.

[Gunther TheBlack]

If you'd like to discuss anything further, I can give you vent information and we can have a chat. Otherwise, I'd appreciate it if you kept the simple fact that a few of us left VG to start another clan from being blown up into a huge forum drama mega war.

That's the way of VG!

[fay2dumb]

Rhade, Vanidar...

Lets not troll. I'll talk to you in game/vent.

[Dxun]

That's the way of VG!

This coming from the guy with 11,000 plus posts.

[Gunther TheBlack]

This coming from the guy with 11,000 plus posts.

I have +12k actually, but it doesn't upgrade automatically for me ;)

[Mulciber]

I have +12k actually, but it doesn't upgrade automatically for me ;)

sigh

[bongloads]

Why is Vexrage still pretending he knows more then he is told?

"If you cant beat em join em" isnt a good redeeming feature for a career DF private, especially when its his only.

Join in your current guild's accomplishments before you share in the associated cockiness... Just as an FYI for those who really thought such a pathetic troll thread was cool.

:lmao:

good post chubby

[Rhade]

I have +12k actually, but it doesn't upgrade automatically for me ;)

Matriel had 24k+, I believe.
Guns are serious business.

[Keno]

That's the way of VG!

Duel me please.

[Mulciber]

Duel me please.

you'se trollinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

[Rhade]

Duel me please.

Damn Keno, you're like a heatseeking missile on Gunther.
For some reason, I just don't think you're going to get that duel from him.
Gunther's a busy man, running DDi, you know how that goes.

:)

[Keno]

Damn Keno, you're like a heatseeking missile on Gunther.
For some reason, I just don't think you're going to get that duel from him.
Gunther's a busy man, running DDi, you know how that goes.

:)

I just want 5 minutes of Gunther's time in game for a duel, well really only 10 seconds that isn't asking to much. But your absolutely right Rhade, I guess that is asking to much time from Gunther's Empire.

[Cross02]

I just want 5 minutes of Gunther's time in game for a duel, well really only 10 seconds that isn't asking to much. But your absolutely right Rhade, I guess that is asking to much time from Gunther's Empire.

Gunther only pvps on the boards; we all know how it would turn out in-game.

Would still be interesting to see it actually happen though. It would level your reflex and rigor skills a bit Gunther.

[Gunther TheBlack]

I just want 5 minutes of Gunther's time in game for a duel, well really only 10 seconds that isn't asking to much. But your absolutely right Rhade, I guess that is asking to much time from Gunther's Empire.

Well, i know you could all learn some diplomatic skill from me :lmao:


First hint, don't be drugged.

[Arwyn Trueshot]

Scare bears is a awesome clan lots of pvp between them :P you should try to see if u can get in with them

[Rhade]

Scare bears is a awesome clan lots of pvp between them :P you should try to see if u can get in with them

This sounds legit.

[AODSocrates]

Scare bears is a awesome clan lots of pvp between them :P you should try to see if u can get in with them

You mean the guys that had a General contact me no less than 3 days in a row wanting peace between us so that your harvesters could harvest?

Oh ok those guys.

[Cross02]

Scare bears is a awesome clan lots of pvp between them :P you should try to see if u can get in with them

I dont think he realized he had his sig enabled.

[grayrage]

I dont think he realized he had his sig enabled.

Yah think? :idea:

[DiamondHeart04]

When people ask what guilds are good and what guilds are going to be good in ther NA server I consider this to be highly funny... Due to each guild is going to Get on here and posts that they think they are the bests... or so and so is the best cuz they have the most people... We have a guild of about 20 people right now, nothing big however we enjoy doing what we do. and if that consists of having a couple of cities and 2 hamlets then so be it...
But I and our guild is not going to go boast on forums about us having the bests guild or nething like that... I like the fact and so does my whole guild when we don't have to talk in the forums, nor mention our guild name and it is brought up by people when we crush there banks, kick them off our island and so on.... Its always fun... Now there is alot of good guilds in the NA SERVER, some really terrible ones... But I think most of the terrible ones are the newbies that are just buying the game the 1st time and are wanting to be elite... The bad thing is EU people including me and my guild transferred alot of people over to NA and already have alot of experience on how it all works... If you are looking for a guild... The best advice I could give you is to look for a guild that has the same play style that you do.... I know for a fact that theres plenty of guilds that are all about crafting, some all about pvp, and terrible enough some that are just into PVE.... But the best credibility I can ever give ne Guild is the one that never talks about themselves. and Is always on a topic of discussion even if on a smaller forum or smaller scale...
I think there is going to be alot of suprises in this new server... I think alot of guilds who are unknown will end up showing up kind of like how the MERCS and Rainbow Ninja did in the EU server.. No I wasn't in either guild nor did I associate with either guild. But I know people that have ran accross them and they were pretty descent as a guild...
I Look forward to meeting everyguild in the Game and may the Best Guild, Alliance Win... or w/e lol

Good Luck To All...

P.s

A Guild worthy of a recruit is one that does not have to recruit but is asked by players if they could join the guild...

[Rhade]

When people ask what guilds are good and what guilds are going to be good in ther NA server I consider this to be highly funny... Due to each guild is going to Get on here and posts that they think they are the bests... or so and so is the best cuz they have the most people... We have a guild of about 20 people right now, nothing big however we enjoy doing what we do. and if that consists of having a couple of cities and 2 hamlets then so be it...
But I and our guild is not going to go boast on forums about us having the bests guild or nething like that... I like the fact and so does my whole guild when we don't have to talk in the forums, nor mention our guild name and it is brought up by people when we crush there banks, kick them off our island and so on.... Its always fun... Now there is alot of good guilds in the NA SERVER, some really terrible ones... But I think most of the terrible ones are the newbies that are just buying the game the 1st time and are wanting to be elite... The bad thing is EU people including me and my guild transferred alot of people over to NA and already have alot of experience on how it all works... If you are looking for a guild... The best advice I could give you is to look for a guild that has the same play style that you do.... I know for a fact that theres plenty of guilds that are all about crafting, some all about pvp, and terrible enough some that are just into PVE.... But the best credibility I can ever give ne Guild is the one that never talks about themselves. and Is always on a topic of discussion even if on a smaller forum or smaller scale...
I think there is going to be alot of suprises in this new server... I think alot of guilds who are unknown will end up showing up kind of like how the MERCS and Rainbow Ninja did in the EU server.. No I wasn't in either guild nor did I associate with either guild. But I know people that have ran accross them and they were pretty descent as a guild...
I Look forward to meeting everyguild in the Game and may the Best Guild, Alliance Win... or w/e lol

Good Luck To All...

P.s

A Guild worthy of a recruit is one that does not have to recruit but is asked by players if they could join the guild...

Paragraphs are your friend.
Secondly, tl;dr

In regards to the PS -- Don't be stupid. A player needs to make an informed decision when joining a guild, therefore it's up to the clans to get their name out to allow players to make an intelligent decision when picking a clan; arguably, one of the most important decisions you'll make.

[Chubbyjesus]

Alot of people are being cattled into guilds like EXGS, Icon, BOTS, Imperil, ect.

Its a good way to boost numbers but eventually people tire of carrying other people's weight. Its just that simple.

Picking a guild is an important feature in DF.. Everyone will have their success and failures.. But usually smaller guilds tend to have better teamwork and clean up in skirmish/pk PvP.. The big guilds end up being feeder for them outside of anything but seiges.

Seiges are controlled by the numbers most of the time.





On topic ive seen a couple of good guilds and up an coming guilds. Only time will tell who dies.

[Lunox]

Alot of people are being cattled into guilds like EXGS, Icon, BOTS, Imperil, ect.

Its a good way to boost numbers but eventually people tire of carrying other people's weight. Its just that simple.

Picking a guild is an important feature in DF.. Everyone will have their success and failures.. But usually smaller guilds tend to have better teamwork and clean up in skirmish/pk PvP.. The big guilds end up being feeder for them outside of anything but seiges.

Seiges are controlled by the numbers most of the time.

On topic ive seen a couple of good guilds and up an coming guilds. Only time will tell who dies.

Boring conjecture makes post boring.

[DesirableNotion]

Boring conjecture makes post boring.

members of nooblet mass recruiting guilds make predictable posts.

[Chaokel]

Dark Hand of Valour is decent, at least they can bring a decent amount of geared people at short notice, which is fairly impressive.

[Chubbyjesus]

Boring conjecture makes post boring.

Somebody's guild got listed in my post.. :sly:

[Reigner]

Somebody's guild got listed in my post.. :sly:

Seen you posting around here alot Chubby, by chance, what guild are you in?

[KingNapalm]

You surely are not comparing the level of exploiting that exists now, with the level of exploiting that has/had gone on during the first months of EU, are you?


It will be the same level. It will just be different exploits. It is this way in every game, and will probably always be this way. Do you think people magicaly forget exploits when they move from one server to another? Sure they fixed some, but not all. People now more than ever realize the importance of abusing the hell out of the exploits before they are fixed now, so I think its evens out to be about the same level of exploiting people as before.

[Keaven Holiday]

We don't even have to post on these miserable boards to get mentioned.

Well d00d... Aside from your choice in women (i think it's a guy tbh)

VG is the second worst failure you have taken part in. One so notable I'll tell my grand kids.

But hey d00d.. It's cool.. Your famous.

GOT YA :cool:

[Dxun]

Well d00d... Aside from your choice in women (i think it's a guy tbh)

VG is the second worst failure you have taken part in. One so notable I'll tell my grand kids.

But hey d00d.. It's cool.. Your famous.

GOT YA :cool:

How's the chimp?

[Ssly]

Alot of people are being cattled into guilds like EXGS, Icon, BOTS, Imperil, ect.



who?

[Benevolence]

Well d00d... Aside from your choice in women (i think it's a guy tbh)

VG is the second worst failure you have taken part in. One so notable I'll tell my grand kids.

But hey d00d.. It's cool.. Your famous.

GOT YA :cool:

Who the fuck are you?


long time no see on the boards keaven. what happened?

[Chubbyjesus]

Seen you posting around here alot Chubby, by chance, what guild are you in?

Bizzy Beast, Apollo.

I post when im not home playing.. So its sporadic, but usually thick with condescending logic and ecstasy inducing comedy.

who?

Exactly.

EXGS was around on EU1, but a fued with Apollo (and our seige equipment) brought them to their knees and they bottled up on Yssam to die. Seems they went recruit heavy on NA and are going to try to go for the thick roster tatic.

Brotherhood of the spider is a new player zerg, fairly friendly though. Not much PvP talent, but they are getting better.

Imperil is pretty bad.. I dont think numbers will help them feel tough for much longer.

Another guild fat with members is Necessary Evil, but they arent too bad at PvP if you run into the right group of them.

[Reigner]

Exactly.

EXGS was around on EU1, but a fued with Apollo (and our seige equipment) brought them to their knees and they bottled up on Yssam to die. Seems they went recruit heavy on NA and are going to try to go for the thick roster tatic.

Brotherhood of the spider is a new player zerg, fairly friendly though. Not much PvP talent, but they are getting better.

Imperil is pretty bad.. I dont think numbers will help them feel tough for much longer.

Another guild fat with members is Necessary Evil, but they arent too bad at PvP if you run into the right group of them.

Pretty spot on there...

[Keaven Holiday]

Who the fuck are you?


long time no see on the boards keaven. what happened?

Well, I got deployed and didn't have a pc for the longest time.

[Keaven Holiday]

How's the chimp?

Who's a chimp and why are they a chimp?

Elaborate or you're a pussy. :cool:

How's the d00dgirl?

[Pariah]

It will be the same level. It will just be different exploits. It is this way in every game, and will probably always be this way. Do you think people magicaly forget exploits when they move from one server to another? Sure they fixed some, but not all. People now more than ever realize the importance of abusing the hell out of the exploits before they are fixed now, so I think its evens out to be about the same level of exploiting people as before.



You obviously weren't around early on. It is not even remotely close to what EU was after launch and a couple months in. The difference between the servers in mind boggling. You don't have a shit ton of worthless players thinking they are the shit because they exploited their tunes up to near invulnerable levels. It's fun actually running into those "uber" "leet" players from EU who made the mistake of coming to NA, because it really reveals what I thought all along. Most of the big talkers on EU aren't shit, and the only reason they've accomplished anything is through cheating. Then again, in life most of the big talkers are shit in general anyway. Talk is cheap.

[Barrack Orkbama]

You obviously weren't around early on. It is not even remotely close to what EU was after launch and a couple months in. The difference between the servers in mind boggling. You don't have a shit ton of worthless players thinking they are the shit because they exploited their tunes up to near invulnerable levels. It's fun actually running into those "uber" "leet" players from EU who made the mistake of coming to NA, because it really reveals what I thought all along. Most of the big talkers on EU aren't shit, and the only reason they've accomplished anything is through cheating. Then again, in life most of the big talkers are shit in general anyway. Talk is cheap.

Personally I've shit all over anyone I've fought, same with EU. I don't talk too much shit just a little, well maybe upgrade that to medium.

[Pariah]

Personally I've shit all over anyone I've fought, same with EU. I don't talk too much shit just a little, well maybe upgrade that to medium.


lol A couple of us ran into a horde of you guys last night, we're your new neighbors.

[Scrappy_Doo]

Personally I've shit all over anyone I've fought, same with EU. I don't talk too much shit just a little, well maybe upgrade that to medium.


Most of the same clans I fought on EU that I have fought here I have noticed a huge difference in their pvp prowess. Some of them are the exact same ppl to. Its like they can't handle getting hit for full dmg, or not having thier 100 weapon skill and 70 weapon mastery. A lot of the self proclaimed uber clans from EU forgot how to pvp here and only a handful still bring a good fight. With things being more on a level playing ground it makes it so that the NA server is way more enjoyable then EU ever was. For most ppl if they didn't get into the EU server in the first day or so they were already 60-70rigor and thousands of gold behind.

[Benevolence]

Well, I got deployed and didn't have a pc for the longest time.

glad to see you back ok.

now i have someone to incessantly flame again ;)

Most of the same clans I fought on EU that I have fought here I have noticed a huge difference in their pvp prowess. Some of them are the exact same ppl to. Its like they can't handle getting hit for full dmg, or not having thier 100 weapon skill and 70 weapon mastery. A lot of the self proclaimed uber clans from EU forgot how to pvp here and only a handful still bring a good fight. With things being more on a level playing ground it makes it so that the NA server is way more enjoyable then EU ever was. For most ppl if they didn't get into the EU server in the first day or so they were already 60-70rigor and thousands of gold behind.

This man speaks the truth.

[Grayheart]

This man speaks the truth.

Woe is the day I'm in agreement with someone from Apollo.

[Scrappy_Doo]

This man speaks the truth.

Lol its so true though. All the self proclaimed uberleet clans or players from EU won't dare come to NA and leave their rigormid, acid pit, wall arrow shooting, MM macroed, starter weapon skilled toons behind because they know that when they face the ppl they been talking shit to on EU they will get their own shit pushed in and their epeen won't be able to hande it. After they fixed the acid pits everyone always said rigor/resist pain doesn't matter but then when rigormids came out everyone was constantly jumping in on them and spending thousands of gold just to be in one. Then when Rigormids got fixed those same ppl that were seen in the acid pools and in the rigormids are saying again that rigor and resist pain doesn't matter. Yet when you are in a fight where every blow matters getting hit for 11-13dmg vs 18-22dmg its a huge difference.

One can only hope that AV nerfs the toons that transfer so that we don't have the exploited, start gear, no reg, wall archer skilled up ppl ruining NA like they did EU.

[Darkwish]

Lol its so true though. All the self proclaimed uberleet clans or players from EU won't dare come to NA and leave their rigormid, acid pit, wall arrow shooting, MM macroed, starter weapon skilled toons behind because they know that when they face the ppl they been talking shit to on EU they will get their own shit pushed in and their epeen won't be able to hande it. After they fixed the acid pits everyone always said rigor/resist pain doesn't matter but then when rigormids came out everyone was constantly jumping in on them and spending thousands of gold just to be in one. Then when Rigormids got fixed those same ppl that were seen in the acid pools and in the rigormids are saying again that rigor and resist pain doesn't matter. Yet when you are in a fight where every blow matters getting hit for 11-13dmg vs 18-22dmg its a huge difference.

One can only hope that AV nerfs the toons that transfer so that we don't have the exploited, start gear, no reg, wall archer skilled up ppl ruining NA like they did EU.

Try defense...

[Vexrak]

You obviously weren't around early on. It is not even remotely close to what EU was after launch and a couple months in. The difference between the servers in mind boggling. You don't have a shit ton of worthless players thinking they are the shit because they exploited their tunes up to near invulnerable levels. It's fun actually running into those "uber" "leet" players from EU who made the mistake of coming to NA, because it really reveals what I thought all along. Most of the big talkers on EU aren't shit, and the only reason they've accomplished anything is through cheating. Then again, in life most of the big talkers are shit in general anyway. Talk is cheap.

Do you really believe this lol?

Unless your characters are just completely god awful I would be willing to bet that if the 40 best Afghanistan characters switched with the 40 best characters of any alliance other than maybe graveyard they would still win a 40 vs 40 fight. The reason is because Afghanistan players are just flat out fucking smarter, better, and more dedicated in general. The level of organization in group fights between Afghanistan and the old Death alliance for example is just MASSIVE.

Another reason Afghanistan dominates is because the gear they bring is so much fucking better then other peoples its unreal. If you come to a fight risking rank 30-40 weapons, banded/scale armor, moderate pots and no rings/ammys then you deserve to get shit stomped by someone with double enchanted racial staves, enchanted gear, 8 of each major pot, and Q4 enchanted weapons lol.

And don't blame "lol cheating" for us taking better shit then you I have been doing nothing but arrowing down mobs completely legit for weeks now to pay for my pvp sets. Put forth some effort and maybe you wont get butt fucked so hard.

[Vexrak]

Most of the same clans I fought on EU that I have fought here I have noticed a huge difference in their pvp prowess. Some of them are the exact same ppl to. Its like they can't handle getting hit for full dmg, or not having thier 100 weapon skill and 70 weapon mastery. A lot of the self proclaimed uber clans from EU forgot how to pvp here and only a handful still bring a good fight. With things being more on a level playing ground it makes it so that the NA server is way more enjoyable then EU ever was. For most ppl if they didn't get into the EU server in the first day or so they were already 60-70rigor and thousands of gold behind.

Your so fucking full of shit. Almost NONE of the good guilds rerolled to NA-1. I bet you can't name 3 that did.

[Mulciber]

Your so fucking full of shit. Almost NONE of the good guilds rerolled to NA-1. I bet you can't name 3 that did.

your not on na1 so dont post about the state of na1 pvp.

have fun on eu1 and when you come over THEN you can talk shit and stroke your peen.

[Vexrak]

your not on na1 so dont post about the state of na1 pvp.

have fun on eu1 and when you come over THEN you can talk shit and stroke your peen.

I don't have to be on NA-1 to know what guilds rerolled to it (and subsequently that none of them were very good on EU) you stupid fucking Muggle.

[Mulciber]

I don't have to be on NA-1 to know what guilds rerolled to it (and subsequently that none of them were very good on EU) you stupid fucking Muggle.

wow...... really?

just ... wow im speechless, someone help me here.

[Rylemos]

lol he called you a muggle

...wtf is a muggle:confused:

[Mulciber]

lol he called you a muggle

...wtf is a muggle:confused:

is it a new breed of dog?

like a pug and something else mixed?

is this a new fad like the labradoodle or the puggle?

[Scrappy_Doo]

Your so fucking full of shit. Almost NONE of the good guilds rerolled to NA-1. I bet you can't name 3 that did.


Shipwrecked Pirates, Undead Lords, LoD, Sinister all are on NA1. With exception to Shipwrecked Pirates the others have a big gap in their pvp ability that they had on EU1.

[Scrappy_Doo]

Your so fucking full of shit. Almost NONE of the good guilds rerolled to NA-1. I bet you can't name 3 that did.


Also I like how no one mentioned Afgan or TM and yet you run here so defensive about the exploits that fucked up EU. TM and RN were probably the two best clans on EU...and they were allied together which made them that much harder to beat(but that is always the case in MMOs the two best never fight one another and would rather join up instead of risk a good fight), and you are right gear has a major thing to do with it. But when you think about how the server started that allowed most of the dominant clans to get thier uber leet dragon plate or demon plate and hundreds of thousands of gold then you will see that the great clans of EU got their start by exploiting. Now thats not to say NA is exploit free because every MMO has exploits but out of all the exploits on NA I would say its still 1/100th of the exploits that ruined the start of EU.

[Damphousse]

Also I like how no one mentioned Afgan or TM and yet you run here so defensive about the exploits that fucked up EU. TM and RN were probably the two best clans on EU...and they were allied together which made them that much harder to beat(but that is always the case in MMOs the two best never fight one another and would rather join up instead of risk a good fight), and you are right gear has a major thing to do with it. But when you think about how the server started that allowed most of the dominant clans to get thier uber leet dragon plate or demon plate and hundreds of thousands of gold then you will see that the great clans of EU got their start by exploiting. Now thats not to say NA is exploit free because every MMO has exploits but out of all the exploits on NA I would say its still 1/100th of the exploits that ruined the start of EU.

Rainbow Ninjas is the recruitment guild for TheMercs. They fought each other all the time, that's how they test each other's abilities.

[Vexrak]

lol he called you a muggle

...wtf is a muggle:confused:

Muggle (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=muggle)

I called him a muggle because I was allied with the fail that is Apollo for 2 months and during that time I never saw them cast anything other then mana missle which really isn't even magic. They spent all their time shooting arrows while getting shot by meteors and napalm blasts or getting kited by fireballs as they desperately tried to hit their enemies with rank 20 maces:lmao:.

[Vexrak]

Shipwrecked Pirates, Undead Lords, LoD, Sinister all are on NA1. With exception to Shipwrecked Pirates the others have a big gap in their pvp ability that they had on EU1.

I was in LoD and allied with sinister for 2 months they were HORRIBLE on EU-1.

You admitted Shipwrecked Pirates were still doing alright and I don't know much about Undead Lords anymore other then I once attacked their city on EU with a group of 6 they brought out twice that and lost I will link you the video if you want.

So basically you named one guild that may have been good on EU-1 that isn't playing as well on NA-1.

[Mulciber]

Muggle (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=muggle)

I called him a muggle because I was allied with the fail that is Apollo for 2 months and during that time I never saw them cast anything other then mana missle which really isn't even magic. They spent all their time shooting arrows while getting shot by meteors and napalm blasts or getting kited by fireballs as they desperately tried to hit their enemies with rank 20 maces:lmao:.

harry potter references? wow I got hardcore burned there....

hear that guys, we are all muggles!!! :(:(:(

so you flunked out of LOD and got butthurt about it... QQ

[Vexrak]

harry potter references? wow I got hardcore burned there....

hear that guys, we are all muggles!!! :(:(:(

so you flunked out of LOD and got butthurt about it... QQ

Flunked out of LoD? HAHAHAHA I was the best player in that guild other then Roby (he was better only because he spent hundreds of dollers buying gold to make his character uber) and any self respecting LoD player will admit that.

I finally got fed up with LoD's fail about a month ago and am in Hail now kiddo. 6 Hail would beat any 10 LoD or Apollo any day of the week I would bet my computer on it.

And yea you are nothing but a scrub muggle until you stop sucking and get some decent magic.

[Pariah]

This guy is just butt-hurt because he knows he nor his clan would be shit without the help of the dozens of exploits they used to leap ahead of everyone else in gear, money, and stats. I use "stats" because I don't want you to get the impression that I believe for a moment that you have a lick of skill. Let's put it this way, make all the stats/skills even, and the gear even ....and you lose. Hence, your ability to play the game on a "skillfull" level is shit. Crow some more about how your higher magic level makes you a superior player when in fact it's exploits that got you there. You are a nothing, a nobody. Those who come to forums and talk shit about how amazing they are always end up eating shit in game.

[Pariah]

harry potter references? wow I got hardcore burned there....

hear that guys, we are all muggles!!! :(:(:(

so you flunked out of LOD and got butthurt about it... QQ



Angry teens ftw!! :ohno:

[Scrappy_Doo]

This guy is just butt-hurt because he knows he nor his clan would be shit without the help of the dozens of exploits they used to leap ahead of everyone else in gear, money, and stats. I use "stats" because I don't want you to get the impression that I believe for a moment that you have a lick of skill. Let's put it this way, make all the stats/skills even, and the gear even ....and you lose. Hence, your ability to play the game on a "skillfull" level is shit. Crow some more about how your higher magic level makes you a superior player when in fact it's exploits that got you there. You are a nothing, a nobody. Those who come to forums and talk shit about how amazing they are always end up eating shit in game.

Most of The Mercs are adults who failed at life or kids who have none who like to talk big in a video game because that's the highlight of thier day when they exploi....I mean beat another player. In fact its all they talk about, how uber leet and awsome dudes they are. :rolleyes: They think that achieving at a computer game regardless if those achievements are done through hacks/exploits or dupes is some sort of accomplishment and note worthy. In fact who remembers when the leader of TM would come running to the boards to post a thread everytime he killed someone. He must not have been to accomplished if he felt the need to come running to the boards to fabricate numbers and talk about his close win but spin it into a pwning.

Personally I think TM are good at this game but they talk bigger then they are....just like one night I logged in and TM had raided a city I was bound to. I ended up soloing 14 of them before the rest of the clan even arrived and by the time they did arrive it was just to gank the bodies I left laying on the floor. :lmao::eek:

[eckce]

Black Shield (it might have been Black Knight, can't remember atm) absolutely wiped the floor with our dead bodies last night.

At nine vs our zerg of 20-30, they were very tightly knit, had powerful weapons, and high skill in elemental magic. Honestly it was kind of a pleasure getting completely face-stomped.

[Pariah]

Black Shield (it might have been Black Knight, can't remember atm) absolutely wiped the floor with our dead bodies last night.

At nine vs our zerg of 20-30, they were very tightly knit, had powerful weapons, and high skill in elemental magic. Honestly it was kind of a pleasure getting completely face-stomped.


Honesty is so refreshing. Kudos.

[Storm_Lord]

Flunked out of LoD?


Flunked out not once, but twice. So many tears begging for a second try it was hilarious in vent. You may be the best though at Diarrhea on the forums! Gotta give ya props for that....

[Cross02]

Black Shield (it might have been Black Knight, can't remember atm) absolutely wiped the floor with our dead bodies last night.

At nine vs our zerg of 20-30, they were very tightly knit, had powerful weapons, and high skill in elemental magic. Honestly it was kind of a pleasure getting completely face-stomped.

Hey man, it was a good fight and everyone had a lot of fun.

Were you at Alberworth or Sweetwater?

It happened in both places, but Sweetwater was definitely more of a fight with being flanked from behind a few times by the NME in the hamlet behind us. Was actually touch and go there for a while. :)

[Vexrak]

Flunked out not once, but twice. So many tears begging for a second try it was hilarious in vent. You may be the best though at Diarrhea on the forums! Gotta give ya props for that....

LOL gotta love it when kids get raped so hard they have to just start making shit up. That was one of the things I hated the most about being in LoD after getting raped they would always come to the forums and try to rewrite history.

I think it was absolutely hilarious that I called one of the SG's a fucking horrible raid leader after a particularly fail fight and an even worse player cussed him out until he kicked me off vent and then 2 days later he was forced by the other leaders to reinvite me because I was THAT good compared to the rest of the shit clan. I shouldn't have even accepted the reinvite but it was probably worth it just to piss him off until I could farm enough exploited Ice island mobs to quit and join a real clan. I never even had to apologize unless you consider me saying "sorry I was yelling, but I wasn't wrong" an apology.

I know your just trolling and that you were a nobody rarely even logging in, but I got nothing better to do than to shit talk you until my pizza arrives.

[Mulciber]

LOL gotta love it when kids get raped so hard they have to just start making shit up. That was one of the things I hated the most about being in LoD after getting raped they would always come to the forums and try to rewrite history.

I think it was absolutely hilarious that I called one of the SG's a fucking horrible raid leader after a particularly fail fight and an even worse player cussed him out until he kicked me off vent and then 2 days later he was forced by the other leaders to reinvite me because I was THAT good compared to the rest of the shit clan. I shouldn't have even accepted the reinvite but it was probably worth it just to piss him off until I could farm enough exploited Ice island mobs to quit and join a real clan. I never even had to apologize unless you consider me saying "sorry I was yelling, but I wasn't wrong" an apology.

I know your just trolling and that you were a nobody rarely even logging in, but I got nothing better to do than to shit talk you until my pizza arrives.

what kind of pizza?

[eckce]

It was in Sweetwater. Great fights, you guys definitely had some awesome gorilla warfare tactics.

Hey man, it was a good fight and everyone had a lot of fun.

Were you at Alberworth or Sweetwater?

It happened in both places, but Sweetwater was definitely more of a fight with being flanked from behind a few times by the NME in the hamlet behind us. Was actually touch and go there for a while. :)

[Kyrandos]

I think there is going to be alot of suprises in this new server... I think alot of guilds who are unknown will end up showing up kind of like how the MERCS and Rainbow Ninja did in the EU server.. No I wasn't in either guild nor did I associate with either guild.


TM is the oldest established online MMO guild there is - and has been dominating since yserbius. We're a permanent part of UO and AC1's history. We've been trolling the dogshit out of these forums since the early 2000's. We're *quite* well known, especially since we're the only pre-release shit talkers to still be talking shit and killing everything we see.

[Storm_Lord]

LOL gotta love it when kids get raped so hard they have to just start making shit up. That was one of the things I hated the most about being in LoD after getting raped they would always come to the forums and try to rewrite history.

I think it was absolutely hilarious that I called one of the SG's a fucking horrible raid leader after a particularly fail fight and an even worse player cussed him out until he kicked me off vent and then 2 days later he was forced by the other leaders to reinvite me because I was THAT good compared to the rest of the shit clan. I shouldn't have even accepted the reinvite but it was probably worth it just to piss him off until I could farm enough exploited Ice island mobs to quit and join a real clan. I never even had to apologize unless you consider me saying "sorry I was yelling, but I wasn't wrong" an apology.

I know your just trolling and that you were a nobody rarely even logging in, but I got nothing better to do than to shit talk you until my pizza arrives.

This is exactly the Diarrhea I was talking about.......It must be true if Vex says so! Damn your good.

[Reigner]

It was in Sweetwater. Great fights, you guys definitely had some awesome gorilla warfare tactics.

Ah, yes. That battle at Sweetwater was some of the funnest times Ive had yet. NME coming in from behind really spiced things up abit, but in the end I salute you guys for atleast wearing gear to fight, most people wont even give us that...

And yes, guerrilla warfare is almost always what keeps us going in those types of fights :ninja:

[Scrappy_Doo]

LOL gotta love it when kids get raped so hard they have to just start making shit up. That was one of the things I hated the most about being in LoD after getting raped they would always come to the forums and try to rewrite history.

I think it was absolutely hilarious that I called one of the SG's a fucking horrible raid leader after a particularly fail fight and an even worse player cussed him out until he kicked me off vent and then 2 days later he was forced by the other leaders to reinvite me because I was THAT good compared to the rest of the shit clan. I shouldn't have even accepted the reinvite but it was probably worth it just to piss him off until I could farm enough exploited Ice island mobs to quit and join a real clan. I never even had to apologize unless you consider me saying "sorry I was yelling, but I wasn't wrong" an apology.

I know your just trolling and that you were a nobody rarely even logging in, but I got nothing better to do than to shit talk you until my pizza arrives.

LOL I like how the SG from TM would come running to the boards here to gloat about some victory he just had and then beef up his opponent's numbers by 10-15ppl. One time he gloated about how 6 TM members owned 25 CC but then someone showed a vid of the fight and showd 14 TM members and only 8 CC members. What was even funnier was that the fight in the video did play out exactly how he told it in his thread except the fact that the numbers he gave was a little off....basically he divided his numbers by 2 and multiplied CC's numbers by 3. Its like Calimath has come to DF.

TM is the oldest established online MMO guild there is - and has been dominating since yserbius. We're a permanent part of UO and AC1's history. We've been trolling the dogshit out of these forums since the early 2000's. We're *quite* well known, especially since we're the only pre-release shit talkers to still be talking shit and killing everything we see.

O'rly......want a cookie?

[Reigner]

I never heard of TM before a few weeks into EU1, then heard they were hired by Hyperion but failed miserably, laughed at this 'merc' clan story I heard of second hand... Now apparently this merc clan holed up, grinded all their skills to 100 with exploited gold, came out, killed everyone, and claimed to of won EU1.

Ok dude, whatever helps you sleep at night.

(Uh oh, I just realized Im now getting involved in this argument, and said something not positive about TM... /flamesuit) :rolleyes:

[Dolmar]

What year did the mercs form?

[Mulciber]

What year did the mercs form?

they came over with colombus

"1492 Columbus (and TM) sailed the ocean blue"

thats what we were taught in school

[Reigner]

they came over with colombus

"1492 Columbus (and TM) sailed the ocean blue"

thats what we were taught in school

Classic :p

You look good with that "Black Shields" in your sig Vagrant, but I think you need a Zealot tag personally. :D

[Mulciber]

Classic :p

You look good with that "Black Shields" in your sig Vagrant, but I think you need a Zealot tag personally. :D

Zealot tag would be sweet. Will work on it this weekend. Wonder if there are any good low res images of the new zealot from SC2

[Mulciber]

so Reigner what abou this sig

[Reigner]

so Reigner what abou this sig

Ah! Perfect my man, welcome to the Zealots :D

[Scrappy_Doo]

I never heard of TM before a few weeks into EU1, then heard they were hired by Hyperion but failed miserably, laughed at this 'merc' clan story I heard of second hand... Now apparently this merc clan holed up, grinded all their skills to 100 with exploited gold, came out, killed everyone, and claimed to of won EU1.

Ok dude, whatever helps you sleep at night.



No one but TM ever heard of TM before EU1. Thats what everyone is trying to sarcastically say. :rolleyes: TM likes to puff out thier chests and pat themsevles on the back. And relish in the fact that their only accomplishment is that they took advantage of a few early on game bugs and are reaping the rewards of it now.

[Mulciber]

tbh, ive been lurking these forums since 06 and i never saw any hyperion or tm posts or trolling.

unless you were one of the 10 people posting back in the day you never saw what guilds were shouldering for attention.

seriously who cared about what guilds were trolling the forums of a game that wasnt even out yet. most of us never read past News.

[Keaven Holiday]

No one but TM ever heard of TM before EU1. Thats what everyone is trying to sarcastically say. :rolleyes: TM likes to puff out thier chests and pat themsevles on the back. And relish in the fact that their only accomplishment is that they took advantage of a few early on game bugs and are reaping the rewards of it now.

Sounds like a hater =\

[Cetra[EQ]]

Sounds like a hater =\

You're not TM and never will be. Why do you care?

[empa]

;3654108']You're not TM and never will be. Why do you care?

Now this is a true hater.

[Cetra[EQ]]

Now this is a true hater.

If you think so kid.

[Scrappy_Doo]

Sounds like a hater =\
Sounds like someone who likes to gloat about chea...being good at a video game as if its an accomplishment.

Now this is a true hater.
See above
;3654157']If you think so kid.
Not kids but mostly young adults who didn't get enough oxygen at birth.

[wartz10]

Vexrak... Darkfall rerolled for NA at least a bunch of the members.... you are welcome btw.... Wolf and Nugtar say hello

[grimjawinflamez]

why did you reroll :( you better be shitting on four twenty over there, I think I may consider them brutaL's 1st grief worthy enemy sense shadow syndicate, kinda funny they are ex shadow syndicate themselves :lmao:

[Haeso]

No one but TM ever heard of TM before EU1. Thats what everyone is trying to sarcastically say. :rolleyes: TM likes to puff out thier chests and pat themsevles on the back. And relish in the fact that their only accomplishment is that they took advantage of a few early on game bugs and are reaping the rewards of it now.

... You been living under a fucking rock?

[empa]

Sounds like someone who likes to gloat about chea...being good at a video game as if its an accomplishment.


See above

Not kids but mostly young adults who didn't get enough oxygen at birth.

another hater

[Cetra[EQ]]

.being good at a video game as if its an accomplishment.

When you're on a forum for a video game, being good at said game is an accomplishment dude.

[Reigner]

... You been living under a fucking rock?

Well, never heard of TM before EU1, so I guess so.

Still lurking these forums Haeso?
When are you ever gonna play again?

[Peacekeeper]

Sounds like someone who likes to gloat about chea...being good at a video game as if its an accomplishment.

this was the exact thing you said when you realized how much you sucked at shadowbane too, lol.

[SiKness]

Long thread is long 0.0

[Rhade]

Sounds like someone who likes to gloat about chea...being good at a video game as if its an accomplishment.



It's normal to take pride in being successful in something you put energy and time into, whether it's a video game, career, or being a male stripper. The activity doesn't matter, it's the fact that you put effort into it, and you achieve something, where others fail.

It's also normal for those who fail to achieve success in something they put energy and time into, to try and belittle those around them who manage not to fail, like you seem to be trying to do here.

[grayrage]

It's normal to take pride in being successful in something you put energy and time into, whether it's a video game, career, or being a male stripper. The activity doesn't matter, it's the fact that you put effort into it, and you achieve something, where others fail.

It's also normal for those who fail to achieve success in something they put energy and time into, to try and belittle those around them who manage not to fail, like you seem to be trying to do here.

Well said

[labi]

Well said

fuck you all

[Arkdin]

Well said

You Die dudes are persistant.

-Black Horseman

[Mulciber]

fuck you all

so how's eu1?

[Zintex]

Small Clans:
1)Not Shit Like You (obv. best clan on server)
2)Black Shields
3)Industrial Strength

Medium Clans:
1)ARSNL
2)Weaps of Mass Destruction (not sure if medium or not)
3)Evil Bastages

Other good ones not sure if medium or zerg:
1)Apollo
2)Scare Bears
3)NME?

Large/Zerg Clans:
1) SiNister of course - they better be by now
2) Necessary Evil
3) (Lords of Death?) maybe DIE?

[terrorfied187]

Funny shit. This is the type of guy that LARPs for a living.

PS: Magic Missle!!!!

this is only funny because everyone in vg should know kato is the one that LARPs

[Zaffax]

this is only funny because everyone in vg should know kato is the one that LARPs

You know it.