tunare
05-26-2009, 06:10 PM
Toon i tested with got 50 INT , Bone Staff ( necromancy staff ) , 53 necromancy
Spells tested are lvled to :
Cursed Bolt 44
Pierce Debuff 54
Undeath 60
Vampiric Touch 27
Deceration 73
Tested with 0 magic encumberance on naked toon ( no high rigor or anything )
cursed bolt does 37-39 dmg in front 49-52 dmg in back , almost no splash ( like MM at lvl 1.0 )
pierce debuff ( similar to bludgeon/splash debuff ) is doing 4,2-4,5 penalty to pierce protection , splash similar to c.bolt
these are only 2 spells i am using at all ..
vampiric touch is doing MAXIMAL 22-24 damage in 8 ticks (3.4-4 pro tick ), has HUGE cooldown ( like 2xlonger then duration ) long casttime, it SWARMS your screen with flyes so you cant see shit <= this spell is total trash for me , it needs huge fix and buff for sure
deceration debuffs like 4,2-4,5 unholy protection , somehow it seems be broken because it affect only bolt damage ( upping it by 2-4 dmg ) but not affecting slash/pierce/bludg effects
undeath - just trash spell , gives -0.4 ( LOL ) health regen..
i didint take unholy carees cuz this spell got lower dmg then bolt..
Now compare this stuff with what you can have instead of 50 necromancy :
necromancy reqs. 25 GM + 75 WC then you lvl it to 50 to get what i have
I would say thats similar to 90 in any elemental shool ( if not 100 )
Earth - you get 60-65 DMG nuke on 90 , you get stoneskin SUPER buff that adds 2.4 to all protections ( !!! ) and you get similar as cursed bolt nuke that is 5-6 dmg lower . i only point spells that are better then necro ones
Fire - you get Fireball on 50 .. that already beats ALL the necro shit i got
str buff and haste not to mention
Air - dex buff , arrow shield ( ! ) , nuke similar to bolt and nuke with splash , AEs..
Water - im not familiar with this shool but it has INT buff wich is absolute godly for any caster , nukes , ae nukes
I didnt mention that i got Wiches Brew from lvling wc to 75 wich is decent
but its wichcraft not necromancy tho.
Dont forget that lvling air fire and earth is way cheaper then lvling wc/necro ( dunno why but ppl sell bones and nacre for more then resin/sulfur nowdays )
Also many necro spells req. ashes...
Also 1 word about debuffs in WC = ALL debuffs r trash i got em all 60+ and they got TOO low splash !!
Spellchant beats it brutally with stat buffs ( thank god not many ppl using it yet in pvp )
But imagine 2 ppl fighting spellchanter with any elemental mage vs necro with wichcrafter . elemental mage gets hp/sta/INT ( ! ) / mana buffed and nuke like mad Spellchanter heals him - wichcrafter misses his tiny splash debuffs and only can use his low dmg needles and try to heal necromancer , necromancer misses his bolts cuz of tiny splash , and they fail brutally..
HOW TO FIX DAMN NECROMANCY :
1. First of All remove unholy protections from armor and move it to robes like you do with ARCANE
2. Vampiric Touch - this spell doesnt worth casting at all - CHANGE IT . Remove moronic screen swarm for the caster , buff damage , reduce cooldown
3. Undeath - this sell doesnt worth casting at all - CHANGE IT . make it negeting healing effects or improve it's debuffing rate !!
4. Pierce/Slash/Bludg debuffs - patch helped these a lot , but they still lack splash... ( also if you think about ppl with stoneskin wearing plate.. - this debuff need some effect improvement for high lvls ) . It would be clever to make it scale better from lvling . because difference at lvl 1 and 50 is less then 1.0
5.Deceration - not worth casting in pvp .. 2-4 dmg add for bolt ( that is VERY hard to hit with ) is mana/reagent wastage
6. MOVE UNHOLY FLAMES TO LOWER SKILL !! Why THE HELL Fireball is 50.0 and U.Flames is 100 skill req. ?!?! every elemental gets AE or Big splash nuke at 50.00 , necromancy got NOTHING like that till teh 100 ( wich takes maybe 4 - 5 months to get from 50 )
And make thoughs about Casting Necromancy spells at all is waste of time in pvp if you got high archery and high melee you do MORE damage with melee/archery + M2S ...
P.S Sorry my spelling
Spells tested are lvled to :
Cursed Bolt 44
Pierce Debuff 54
Undeath 60
Vampiric Touch 27
Deceration 73
Tested with 0 magic encumberance on naked toon ( no high rigor or anything )
cursed bolt does 37-39 dmg in front 49-52 dmg in back , almost no splash ( like MM at lvl 1.0 )
pierce debuff ( similar to bludgeon/splash debuff ) is doing 4,2-4,5 penalty to pierce protection , splash similar to c.bolt
these are only 2 spells i am using at all ..
vampiric touch is doing MAXIMAL 22-24 damage in 8 ticks (3.4-4 pro tick ), has HUGE cooldown ( like 2xlonger then duration ) long casttime, it SWARMS your screen with flyes so you cant see shit <= this spell is total trash for me , it needs huge fix and buff for sure
deceration debuffs like 4,2-4,5 unholy protection , somehow it seems be broken because it affect only bolt damage ( upping it by 2-4 dmg ) but not affecting slash/pierce/bludg effects
undeath - just trash spell , gives -0.4 ( LOL ) health regen..
i didint take unholy carees cuz this spell got lower dmg then bolt..
Now compare this stuff with what you can have instead of 50 necromancy :
necromancy reqs. 25 GM + 75 WC then you lvl it to 50 to get what i have
I would say thats similar to 90 in any elemental shool ( if not 100 )
Earth - you get 60-65 DMG nuke on 90 , you get stoneskin SUPER buff that adds 2.4 to all protections ( !!! ) and you get similar as cursed bolt nuke that is 5-6 dmg lower . i only point spells that are better then necro ones
Fire - you get Fireball on 50 .. that already beats ALL the necro shit i got
str buff and haste not to mention
Air - dex buff , arrow shield ( ! ) , nuke similar to bolt and nuke with splash , AEs..
Water - im not familiar with this shool but it has INT buff wich is absolute godly for any caster , nukes , ae nukes
I didnt mention that i got Wiches Brew from lvling wc to 75 wich is decent
but its wichcraft not necromancy tho.
Dont forget that lvling air fire and earth is way cheaper then lvling wc/necro ( dunno why but ppl sell bones and nacre for more then resin/sulfur nowdays )
Also many necro spells req. ashes...
Also 1 word about debuffs in WC = ALL debuffs r trash i got em all 60+ and they got TOO low splash !!
Spellchant beats it brutally with stat buffs ( thank god not many ppl using it yet in pvp )
But imagine 2 ppl fighting spellchanter with any elemental mage vs necro with wichcrafter . elemental mage gets hp/sta/INT ( ! ) / mana buffed and nuke like mad Spellchanter heals him - wichcrafter misses his tiny splash debuffs and only can use his low dmg needles and try to heal necromancer , necromancer misses his bolts cuz of tiny splash , and they fail brutally..
HOW TO FIX DAMN NECROMANCY :
1. First of All remove unholy protections from armor and move it to robes like you do with ARCANE
2. Vampiric Touch - this spell doesnt worth casting at all - CHANGE IT . Remove moronic screen swarm for the caster , buff damage , reduce cooldown
3. Undeath - this sell doesnt worth casting at all - CHANGE IT . make it negeting healing effects or improve it's debuffing rate !!
4. Pierce/Slash/Bludg debuffs - patch helped these a lot , but they still lack splash... ( also if you think about ppl with stoneskin wearing plate.. - this debuff need some effect improvement for high lvls ) . It would be clever to make it scale better from lvling . because difference at lvl 1 and 50 is less then 1.0
5.Deceration - not worth casting in pvp .. 2-4 dmg add for bolt ( that is VERY hard to hit with ) is mana/reagent wastage
6. MOVE UNHOLY FLAMES TO LOWER SKILL !! Why THE HELL Fireball is 50.0 and U.Flames is 100 skill req. ?!?! every elemental gets AE or Big splash nuke at 50.00 , necromancy got NOTHING like that till teh 100 ( wich takes maybe 4 - 5 months to get from 50 )
And make thoughs about Casting Necromancy spells at all is waste of time in pvp if you got high archery and high melee you do MORE damage with melee/archery + M2S ...
P.S Sorry my spelling