Are you really happy?

[Silverhandorder]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTO_dZUvbJA

I think this is an interesting presentation on human happiness. I challenge you to draw your own conclusions, since I think this piece can be used to justify any ideology.

[Barbarossa]

Sorry, that just stunk of bullshit inspirational speaker crap...


If I'm gonna waste 22 mins on something video it's gonna be porn.

[Silverhandorder]

Actually he was just talking about his experiments.

Quick summary.

People like to delude them selves that they are happy.
There are evidence that suggests that synthetic happiness is just as valuable as real happiness.
Freedom brings less happiness.
Humans tend to choose freedom.


You can interpret this in many different ways.

[Scully2k]

What the hell is synthetic happiness?

[lipe[cpc]]

Happiness derives from pleasure, and pleasure is gained through contrasts.

Saying that artificial happiness is equal to "legitimate" happiness is wrong. Humans tend to append other values to actions - like merit, for instance.

[Silverhandorder]

What the hell is synthetic happiness?

;3365948']Happiness derives from pleasure, and pleasure is gained through contrasts.

Saying that artificial happiness is equal to "legitimate" happiness is wrong. Humans tend to append other values to actions - like merit, for instance.

Watch the video dipshits. I don't disagree since I said anyone can make their own conclusions. If you gona participate at least address the video and not just rant like a dumbass.

[Barbarossa]

I put my cell phone on vibrate, dropped it down the front of my pants and then I called it and keep hitting redial on my home phone.

I'm fucking happy as hell...:D

[Wolffen]

Actually he was just talking about his experiments.

Quick summary.

People like to delude them selves that they are happy.
There are evidence that suggests that synthetic happiness is just as valuable as real happiness.
Freedom brings less happiness.
Humans tend to choose freedom.


You can interpret this in many different ways.

Freedom brings less happiness? No, no, and no. Humans tend to choose Freedom, hmm I wonder why? Perhap being a brutalized serf your entire life isn't going to be that "happy" ?

Synthetic happiness? Nice clever language change. Let's call it what it is, False Happiness.

[Ankh]

To answer the question: No.

[Barbarossa]

To answer the question: No.

Oh come on...not even happy for spinkles?

[Death's Chill]

The beauty of human adaptation. That's what it is. Obviously, it's real. However people have been conditioned to refuse any sort of negative change. It's kind of funny, because in the end, who knows if it's really going to be negative?

[ejnomad07]

That was a pretty good watch. Made a lot of sense, but then again was no surprise to me people generally accept their choice as better when they have to live with it.

I would be interested in seeing the effects on his statistics if his photo classes watched this presentation before the classes started.

[Scully2k]

I'm Mr. Happy Face! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCQSpzjHxpQ)

[Barbarossa]

I'm Mr. Happy Face! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCQSpzjHxpQ)

That wasn't fucked up.

Not in the least...

[ejnomad07]

I'm Mr. Happy Face! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCQSpzjHxpQ)

WTF mate?

[Seesawmcgraw]

Freedom brings less happiness.


No I think you are thinking of some guy mentioned in various psychology classes by the name of Frome (I think that is how it's spelled) he said freedom brings loneliness

I would say standard of living brings happiness and stress can potentially make people less happy but overall I would say most wealthy people are happier then most poor people

I would also say that freedom brings higher standard of living and therefore freedom brings happiness were people happier in East Germany during the cold war or in the United States I think the Berlin wall answers that one when you have to build a wall to keep people in it means they probably aren't very happy with their situation

This is overall though there are obviously other things that can make people more or less happy for example a heroin addict when they finally manage to get enough stuff to get them high they are probably happier then a typical wealthy person is at that moment

[Barbarossa]

Happy Happy Joy Joy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqGsxwQpa_g&feature=related)

[Silverhandorder]

I think the only two people in this thread who know how to forumfall is Barb and nomad.

Honestly I provided my summary but no opinion. I will pick freedom over some bs notion of happiness any day. That is not the point. The point is "here is a nice video for you to watch and discuss". If you haven't watched it don't bother discussing because that is not the point of the post. Bumps are welcome :P.

[Kusghuul]

Happiness>Freedom.

What's the point in being miserable for the sake of being miserable?

[Ankh]

Oh come on...not even happy for spinkles?

I don't have any :(:(:(

[Death's Chill]

Happiness>Freedom.

What's the point in being miserable for the sake of being miserable?

I think the point to follow from the video is to adapt to circumstances you can't control. If you can do something about it, try to. But if you fail, or if you're struck with bad luck, just cheer up. At least you're alive. :)

[DoveAlexa]

In order to question if you're really happy, don't you have to be happy first?
At least you're alive. :)
That's really not that comforting.

[ejnomad07]

That's really not that comforting.

I can be. ;)

[DoveAlexa]

I can be. ;)
You sure try :P

[Seesawmcgraw]

I can be. ;)

Even being in an mmorpg off topic forum that is rife with awesomeness you sir are one slick pickle

[Barbarossa]

Even being in an mmorpg off topic forum that is rife with awesomeness you sir are one slick pickle

And that sir, is exactly what the decepticon is looking for...one slick pickle...

Don't fall for the 'a mouth is a mouth' mindset, ejnomad, that's what they want you to do.

[Caffy]

I'm always happy after I torture some random homeless person and/or liberal to death. Call it synthetic if you want, but it is my one true joy.

And that sir, is exactly what the decepticon is looking for...one slick pickle...

Don't fall for the 'a mouth is a mouth' mindset, ejnomad, that's what they want you to do.

:(

So many stupid people are falling for the decepticon ploy now that they're multiplying.

We need a decepticon culling, before they grow out of control.

[Death's Chill]

In order to question if you're really happy, don't you have to be happy first?

That's really not that comforting.

Emo.

[DoveAlexa]

Emo.
Not really

[Wickfield]

I'm going to stumbleupon my way to happiness.







Or death, whichever comes first.

[Seesawmcgraw]

That's really not that comforting.

Yes actually for the most part as long as I am living all I need to be happy is what I need to stay alive and being able to
A. surf the web
B. masturbate while watching pornography
C. listen to music
I'm pretty much happy with that I have few friends because I don't feel I have alot in common with the vast majority of my generation from a 3rd person view my life would be pretty sad

but really most things associated with unhappiness (anger, depression) come from unmet expectations I have low expectations in life and I'm pretty happy

I also think that our society tends to set our expectations rather high

edit: I just realized that I just overlooked mentioning I don't have a girlfriend because I figured it was a given

[Death's Chill]

Not really

Yeah. I was completely serious. Totally.

[DoveAlexa]

Yeah. I was completely serious. Totally.
:P
//lemon pie

[Death's Chill]

Why lemon?

[dinkfall]

Happiness is secondary, I've been saying this forever. It's stupid to revere something that you can't even describe.

[DoveAlexa]

Why lemon?
It's delicious and awesome, and I also have lemons and eggs on hand so I can make some up pretty quick. I'm also tired of cookies.
:D

[Death's Chill]

No lemon. Blueberry ftw. :D

[DoveAlexa]

No lemon. Blueberry ftw. :D
Fine then :P
//blueberry pie 4 u

^ Is the stuff that makes me happy. :D

[Death's Chill]

You bake it.

[DoveAlexa]

You bake it.
I figured that was a given

[Seesawmcgraw]

No lemon. Blueberry ftw. :D

Almost makes me want to break out my easy bake oven (http://smartcanucks.ca/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/easy-bake-oven.jpg)

[Death's Chill]

I figured that was a given

Get to work then.

[StaticBlack]

The only problem that I have with that video is that he's quantified an abstract ideal.

[WhiteF1ame]

I'm depressed.

[mrbubbles]

I'm depressed.

Me too. :(

Maybe if someone was to bake me some cookies...

[DoveAlexa]

Me too. :(

Maybe if someone was to bake me some cookies...
Deal! //cookies
Now we're both happy

[Marrik]

no, not really.

[Weeking]

I'm immune to emotions due to my heroic wisdom.

[ZeaL-]

are you happy you keep trying to impose your stupid ass views on others? How's that for freedom. Freedom from having idiots telling me how they want to shape the world.

[Silverhandorder]

are you happy you keep trying to impose your stupid ass views on others? How's that for freedom. Freedom from having idiots telling me how they want to shape the world.

I guess we should agree on no taxes then... no wait.

[Floyd]

What the hell is synthetic happiness?

Opiates.

[Hitom]

I like my syntetich happiness in the form of a bag of amphetamine.

Being so called happy is overrated anyways. All that serotonin and dopamine turning you into a giggly girly wuzz that thinks the world is surronded by a beautiful ocean of hearts and flowers. Fuck that.

SMD. Stable Manic Depresive. You're eyes will see the world for what it really is 100% of the time.

[gloryhound]

I'm immune to emotions due to my heroic wisdom.

Same.

[OchieGurl]

What the hell is synthetic happiness?

http://www.nbc.com/The_Biggest_Loser/
is a very good example. All the people that think that they're obese now also think that its acceptable to be a loser.

Edit: Synthetic happiness, for the better or the worse?

[lilyeti]

Synthetic happiness was synthsized by the government so that we think being un-happy will make us happy.

[gloryhound]

Synthetic happiness was synthsized by the government so that we think being un-happy will make us happy.

But of course!

[DocGonzo]

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200906/happiness

the Grant Study....

[Razel]

Freedom brings less happiness? No, no, and no. Humans tend to choose Freedom, hmm I wonder why? Perhap being a brutalized serf your entire life isn't going to be that "happy" ?

Synthetic happiness? Nice clever language change. Let's call it what it is, False Happiness.

wise woffen. Tis true, i've never met a happy slave or someone thats gained the world and lost their own soul. proof = ive seen a hell of alot of severely miserable wealthy and i mean... rich monetarily people.

Happiness comes from within.

[Maha Kali]

I'm not happy, I'm satisfied however.

Right where they want me :(

[Rathynas]

I like my syntetich happiness in the form of a bag of amphetamine.

Being so called happy is overrated anyways. All that serotonin and dopamine turning you into a giggly girly wuzz that thinks the world is surronded by a beautiful ocean of hearts and flowers. Fuck that.

SMD. Stable Manic Depresive. You're eyes will see the world for what it really is 100% of the time.

Being happy means you're content, not optimistic. Read a dictionary, my God...

[WhiteF1ame]

no