Best way to level Rigor [Archive]

retrospect

04-24-2009, 09:40 AM

Get a shield. Get a few friends or a unused spawn (goblin, kobold, brownie, zombie, ect.) and let them beat on you as you block multiple attacks. Good way to level rigor, ignore pain, defense, and parry. Bring food and use mana to stamina to make it quicker.

Vamp

04-24-2009, 09:50 AM

brownies work pretty well but i hate mobing

TheDor

04-24-2009, 07:56 PM

I shot myself with MM last night for about 90 minutes and gained 2.3 rigor.

EvilDonkey

04-24-2009, 08:42 PM

I shot myself with MM last night for about 90 minutes and gained 2.3 rigor.

You must have had very low rigor.

Sofaism

04-25-2009, 12:34 AM

Sit in lava.

Patriota

04-25-2009, 12:48 AM

just should be here when the servers first start and buged you rigor as a lot of ppl LOL 5hour you would put rigor on 100.

VidarDf

04-25-2009, 03:52 PM

just should be here when the servers first start and buged you rigor as a lot of ppl lol 5hour you would put rigor on 100.

lol omg thats awesome!

Gratchek

04-27-2009, 08:49 PM

just should be here when the servers first start and buged you rigor as a lot of ppl LOL 5hour you would put rigor on 100.

Many people did this and have an extreme edge in melee combat. They are using this edge to pretend they are superior to everyone else but this will only last until more of the sever catches up.

I have a ways to go with my rigor but as I'm not afk macro'n it up I'm leveling it in pure pvp. It is only increasing by .2-.4 per day so its going to take me some time.

I may use pve to increase it sometime soon but for the most part I fight people that apparently have not cheated and I've run into no issues as of yet.

Did run into a guy with max rigor and ignore pain that was running in full scale and 100 archery. I can honestly say that sucked but I'm glad he bragged about his stats to one of my clannies heh.

Retanaru

04-28-2009, 12:07 AM

Its a waste of time to raise your rigor. Its going to give you a +1.0 bonus to resistance. "Oh jeez, i just negated 1 damage from your swing." is how some people explain it.

Azzerhoden

04-28-2009, 12:32 AM

Its a waste of time to raise your rigor. Its going to give you a +1.0 bonus to resistance. "Oh jeez, i just negated 1 damage from your swing." is how some people explain it.

But at 100 you get the skill "Ignore Pain", which is suppose to be great in combat, as well as in other, non-gaming rituals.....

TheDor

04-28-2009, 07:22 AM

But at 100 you get the skill "Ignore Pain", which is suppose to be great in combat, as well as in other, non-gaming rituals.....

Ignore Pain requires 75 Rigor. It's not that hard to get to, my new character is about 4 days old and already past 30 Rigor.

CattBoy

04-28-2009, 03:43 PM

Ignore Pain requires 75 Rigor. It's not that hard to get to, my new character is about 4 days old and already past 30 Rigor.

Ya Dor but I have 60 (legit) and its kinda stuck ;/ Not that i am DEAD SET on trying to level it but through random pvp/pve i gain like .2 a day so UGH.

Time to get myself a boat and sit outside some Infernal spawn like the UO days to GM resist :O

grytkungen

04-28-2009, 03:55 PM

Lictor

04-28-2009, 03:56 PM

Its a waste of time to raise your rigor. Its going to give you a +1.0 bonus to resistance. "Oh jeez, i just negated 1 damage from your swing." is how some people explain it.

I cannot even count those confrontation which ended with me being victorious and having 5 hp left or being beaten while missing even less. Every single point counts. If you don't know that, you don't PvP in Darkfall.

Arkh

04-28-2009, 04:04 PM

Its a waste of time to raise your rigor. Its going to give you a +1.0 bonus to resistance. "Oh jeez, i just negated 1 damage from your swing." is how some people explain it.
I love to read how people with the skill write that it doesn't do anything. Then, why did you exploit the hell out of it ?
And 10hp here and there may be the difference between you alive with more loot or you spawning nude at a bindstone. If skills and attributes are so useless, why don't you reroll, tranfering all your equipement ?

Swing

04-28-2009, 04:14 PM

Also all these littls things stack and can make a big difference. Ignore Pain I would say is like the mastery of defence and rigor, though I do not have it I am sure together with the rest and good armour can help a lot.

Lictor

04-28-2009, 04:18 PM

I am sure together with the rest and good armour can help a lot.

Of course it does. Only ignorants and people who already have it leveled up high (through exploits, and who are afraid of AV nerfing it) diminish its value.

DarkFallFan69

04-28-2009, 04:25 PM

what does ignore pain do? adds damage resistance that stacks with rigor? how much? and what does defence do? i have over 50 and it dosent add any free resistance like rigor does...

Lictor

04-28-2009, 07:10 PM

what does ignore pain do? adds damage resistance that stacks with rigor? how much? and what does defence do? i have over 50 and it dosent add any free resistance like rigor does...

Rigor at 100.0: +0.5 to all protections.
Ignore Pain at 100.0: +0.5 to Arrow, Bludgeoning, Piercing and Slashing protections

these two stack with each other and with armor you're wearing.

Oscar-GoD

04-28-2009, 07:19 PM

Rigor at 100.0: +0.5 to all protections.
Ignore Pain at 100.0: +0.5 to Arrow, Bludgeoning, Piercing and Slashing protections

these two stack with each other and with armor you're wearing.

Are you sure it's only .5? I have 45 Rigor and have .3 resist to all. I assumed it would go up in .3 increments per 25 skill, starting at 0...so .3/.6/.9

Lictor

04-28-2009, 07:31 PM

Are you sure it's only .5? I have 45 Rigor and have .3 resist to all. I assumed it would go up in .3 increments per 25 skill, starting at 0...so .3/.6/.9

I'm not sure. I only know that protections rise from 0.0 to 0.1 when you hit 10 Rigor and it's the same till probably Rigor 30 (I have Rigor ~28 atm) and that people are saying it gives 0.5 on GM.

Mulciber

04-28-2009, 07:45 PM

10 rigor = .1
30 rigor = .2

dont know past that since i have not hit the next .3

alhazred

04-28-2009, 07:55 PM

lol i almost said how to do it

hehe silly player you must lrn that on your own:p

s34s0ns

04-28-2009, 09:13 PM

Vamp

04-28-2009, 09:27 PM

I cannot even count those confrontation which ended with me being victorious and having 5 hp left or being beaten while missing even less. Every single point counts. If you don't know that, you don't PvP in Darkfall.

every little edge helps, from taking 1 less dmg, to giving 1 more, its all very helpful when fighting multiple or equal skilled opponents.

Mulciber

04-28-2009, 10:06 PM

Why do so many people have this mentality?

...It would be nice to have a community that was helpful and encouraged progression of everyone. That way more people could be competitive improving the overall state of game by encouraging more head to head conflict.

Oh well I guess it's hard for people to look that far ahead.

Honestly I do not blame them. Many people have found several things which can speed up rigor training (non-exploit) but it is hard to judge when to tell the community about this because since it is NOT an exploit and knowledge has a value many do not want to give out that information freely.

Also, AV could determine certain actions as unintended side effects and nerf it.

Knowledge is just as important as skill, gold, armor, and stats.

alfar1

04-28-2009, 11:25 PM

50 Rigor = 0.3 resists.
Have 68 atm, will report if I get another decimal at 70.
Damn I miss all those regs I used to have.

Mulciber

04-29-2009, 12:25 AM

50 Rigor = 0.3 resists.
Have 68 atm, will report if I get another decimal at 70.
Damn I miss all those regs I used to have.

grats and thanks for the info so to compile

10 rigor = .1
30 rigor = .2
50 rigor = .3
?70 rigor = .4
?90 rigor = .5

with nothing at 100

sounds about right. I dont expect those with 100 rigor to even know this since they were afk when they got it lol.

Llewen

04-29-2009, 12:57 AM

Many people did this and have an extreme edge in melee combat. They are using this edge to pretend they are superior to everyone else but this will only last until more of the sever catches up.
Extreme edge, lol. You're clueless.

You've either never fought anyone with really high rigor/ignore pain, or you are a troll. Those that exploited the acid and lava in the first week have a huge advantage right now. In my opinion it is quite possibly the single biggest issue in pvp right now.

I cannot even count those confrontation which ended with me being victorious and having 5 hp left or being beaten while missing even less. Every single point counts. If you don't know that, you don't PvP in Darkfall.

Exactly.

AV says everything gets logged. I'd like to see those that exploited acid and lava in the first week or two get their gains erased, but I don't expect that to happen. :)

Lolpve

04-29-2009, 01:40 AM

You've either never fought anyone with really high rigor/ignore pain, or you are a troll. Those that exploited the acid and lava in the first week have a huge advantage right now. In my opinion it is quite possibly the single biggest issue in pvp right now.

So like .5-1.0 resists is a BIG advantage ?
I think you never fought someone with ignore pain 100! Because its almost not even noticable at all.. Its like wearing 1part of banded..

Hoggerz

04-29-2009, 01:54 AM

So like .5-1.0 resists is a BIG advantage ?
I think you never fought someone with ignore pain 100! Because its almost not even noticable at all.. Its like wearing 1part of banded..

troll

Mulciber

04-29-2009, 02:10 AM

So like .5-1.0 resists is a BIG advantage ?
I think you never fought someone with ignore pain 100! Because its almost not even noticable at all.. Its like wearing 1part of banded..

come on man. the numbers we are dealing with here are so small

normal plate to full plate is roughly 7-9 depending and a whole 1 to that is like 13%-22% of an increase.

Add on top that dmg from a rank 00 polearm goes from 12-16 front to roughly 19-22 front with just 60-70 skill (NOT EVEN MASTERY) and that is maybe a 40% increase in dmg.

These are just from the people who exploited acid and player shields.

add it up and see a str8 66% net increase from a brand new player. This shit was meant for end game. We effectively have endgame players now which were meant to take probably a 9 - 12 months to see.

Yest it is a big deal.

Lolpve

04-29-2009, 02:32 AM

come on man. the numbers we are dealing with here are so small

normal plate to full plate is roughly 7-9 depending and a whole 1 to that is like 13%-22% of an increase.

Add on top that dmg from a rank 00 polearm goes from 12-16 front to roughly 19-22 front with just 60-70 skill (NOT EVEN MASTERY) and that is maybe a 40% increase in dmg.

These are just from the people who exploited acid and player shields.

add it up and see a str8 66% net increase from a brand new player. This shit was meant for end game. We effectively have endgame players now which were meant to take probably a 9 - 12 months to see.

Yest it is a big deal.

I never said that weaponmastery isnt a big deal... Because it actually is.

But rigor clearly isnt.

naga_ownage

04-29-2009, 06:37 AM

by this point lots of people have gotten legitimate weapon masteries

falkeri

05-01-2009, 03:40 PM

You've either never fought anyone with really high rigor/ignore pain, or you are a troll. Those that exploited the acid and lava in the first week have a huge advantage right now. In my opinion it is quite possibly the single biggest issue in pvp right now.

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EXTREME ADVANTAGE

:lmao::lmao::lmao:

Furyos

05-01-2009, 04:47 PM

Many people did this and have an extreme edge in melee combat.

You don't understand game mechanics if you believe that the rigor exploit provides an 'extreme edge' or causes the biggest problem in PvP right now.

Ben060682

05-01-2009, 04:49 PM

50 Rigor = 0.3 resists.
Have 68 atm, will report if I get another decimal at 70.
Damn I miss all those regs I used to have.

Rigor alone doesnt make much difference in the grand scheme of things unless you are ba naked zerger maybe. You need a strong combo of all res ststs before the impact is felt I think.

Ben060682

05-01-2009, 04:51 PM

You don't understand game mechanics if you believe that the rigor exploit provides an 'extreme edge' or causes the biggest problem in PvP right now.

True. The main imbalance is in those who exploited mellee weps skill to mastery level. The damage bonus is quite large, and mellee skills are harder to lvl without exploiting than say archery or magic.

Bloodgloom

05-01-2009, 05:04 PM

If you're talking about two people fighting in full plate with r40+ weapons. 1.0 is not a big deal. To put things in perspective, that's about the same difference between wearing a banded helmet or going hatless. A banded chest piece gives you about 2.0 protection but is very encumbering.

1.0 difference when fighting in full gear isn't a big deal, but when you're talking about people naked, or in leather, bone or chain and wielding low ranking or bound weapons, its a significant advantage.

Bamboopanda

05-03-2009, 06:24 AM

I never said that weaponmastery isnt a big deal... Because it actually is.

But rigor clearly isnt.

Nice, his post when RIGHT over your head and you didnt even register the sound or feel of the wind as it sailed on by. Epic fail on your part considering it was so basic and well said.

One difference is significant, but not too excessive. Several differences are not just additive but multiplicative to each other and compound on top of every other advantage to be near insurmountable for non-zergs.

alfar1

05-03-2009, 10:46 AM

70 Rigor = 0.4 res.

magnumopus1337

05-03-2009, 02:09 PM

stop fucking crying about rigor noobs
I have NEVER noticed anyone absorbing much more damage than he should and I pvp all the time
I suppose I fought quite a lot of rigor exploiters, but they dropped just as fast as everyone else, so I didn't even notice that
my rigor is 34 and I don't give a flying shit if they have their 100 ignore pain erased or not - it's not going to help them against a good fighter

kreen

05-03-2009, 07:05 PM

Raybur Ravenloc

05-04-2009, 04:44 AM

For the OP, Earthquake spell might be good for Rigor training.
One cast hits yourself and anyone within melee range of you for about 5 dmg per tick, until you run out of mana. Might be good for training groups of people in Rigor, just need one person with lvl 1 Earth magic.

Fro

05-04-2009, 12:17 PM

I thought you guys only killed mounts as in that vid one of you posted ? they have no rigor :D

No they generaly hang around towns shooting nakeds in the back while they bank.

Xxplosive

05-06-2009, 07:51 PM

Get a group of friends... Like 3-4+... Stand close and all cast rend and needles. Everyone should be hitting everyone else, so you get blasted with rend 4 times instead of once, multiply that times rends dot, so you get hit 12-16 times per recast. More healing is neccesary, but it goes faster and with less regs overall

Jakkar

05-15-2009, 11:44 PM

Grahh. How can you people pay monthly for the chance to slowly injure yourself for hours?

KuraM

05-15-2009, 11:50 PM

What is it, mine goes up slow as hell....

acid pool. oh wait that was patched

EQ pyramid. oh wait that was patched

your SoL then bud.

simplafried

05-21-2009, 02:15 PM

rend still does a decent job

Pewpewpew

05-21-2009, 06:13 PM

Leave char at bindstone overnight for clanmates to train weaponskill on. I am getting close to 70 rigor and I gain about 1 full pts per night. Then you can focus on more fun things when playing then lvl rigor. Quite nice defense gains also.

Garack666

05-21-2009, 07:56 PM

rend still does a decent job

but casting rend on yourselves gives no skill.

Scrappy_Doo

05-21-2009, 08:14 PM

So like .5-1.0 resists is a BIG advantage ?
I think you never fought someone with ignore pain 100! Because its almost not even noticable at all.. Its like wearing 1part of banded..

Quoting off an old post just cause...

If you get into a melee fight with someone wearing the exact same armor set as you and hit them 20-25 times and they hit you 20-25 times. They have 100 rigor/ignore pain and you have 50 rigor. They got their rigor up by exploiting and you got it up legit. Then that means in the span of 20-25 hits you now have 20-25 less hp then they do wearing the exact same gear. That means that basically the ppl that exploited their rigor up get an automatic 15% more hp per fight basically, and requires that they will need to be hit more often to be killed. In most pvp fights every hit matters and starting off a pvp fight behind on hits before the fight even begins is a big deal.

Scrappy_Doo

05-21-2009, 08:19 PM

acid pool. oh wait that was patched

EQ pyramid. oh wait that was patched

your SoL then bud.

There's always the Fire Wall.....oops was that a secret. :rolleyes:

pete the pirate

05-29-2009, 02:15 PM

Someone claimed not long ago that high lvl ignore pain negated 5-6 damage per hit,so this person was lying or plain wrong?:confused:

TheDna

05-29-2009, 03:16 PM

Someone claimed not long ago that high lvl ignore pain negated 5-6 damage per hit,so this person was lying or plain wrong?:confused:

Yea pure lie. Ignore pain is a bad version of rigor. It just buffs ur melee resists.. Overall difference between 0rigor/0IP and 100rigor/IP is so low that it is impossible to say if someone actually has it or not.
And i dueled alot of ppl and some of them had 100rigor/IP..