1h Sword with 100 Sword Mastery

[Khadar]

I'm at 100 Sword Mastery. Here is a quick breakdown on 1h Sword. No breaking news for all you experienced gamers I guess, just a quick summary:

#1. DPS: The damage is really bad compared to the attack speed. Even with a rank 70 1h Sword you won't be able to kill a player who knows what he is doing (as in self-healing/major potions/food). The starter sword does ~12,3 dmg, a r70 sword ~17,4 dmg in the front of a naked player with less than 30 rigor. This is at MAXED out skills and 50 Str. Each swing takes 1050 ms (1600ms for polearm).

#2. Arc: The arc is reasonable for a 1h weapon and seems well balanced. Your arc is a lot smaller than with any 2h weapon, yet with good aiming it is still viable in combat.

#3. Whirlwind: Whirlwind is bugged. You can only use it when you "stand still". This is most likly a bug because you can run while doing whirlwind with ANY other skill. However, it is still not fixed.

#4. Seize Sword: Useless. Prove me otherwise.

Like in most games, 1h+shield will allow you to tank forever (using parry) without dealing much damage. It is a viable option in groupfights but seems useless and boring in 1on1s.

[picarddk]

I'm at 100 Sword Mastery. Here is a quick breakdown on 1h Sword. No breaking news for all you experienced gamers I guess, just a quick summary:

#1. DPS: The damage is really bad compared to the attack speed. Even with a rank 70 1h Sword you won't be able to kill a player who knows what he is doing (as in self-healing/major potions/food). The starter sword does ~12,3 dmg, a r70 sword ~17,4 dmg in the front of a naked player with less than 30 rigor. This is at MAXED out skills and 50 Str. Each swing takes 1050 ms (1600ms for polearm).

#2. Arc: The arc is reasonable for a 1h weapon and seems well balanced. Your arc is a lot smaller than with any 2h weapon, yet with good aiming it is still viable in combat.

#3. Whirlwind: Whirlwind is bugged. You can only use it when you "stand still". This is most likly a bug because you can run while doing whirlwind with ANY other skill. However, it is still not fixed.

#4. Seize Sword: Useless. Prove me otherwise.

Like in most games, 1h+shield will allow you to tank forever (using parry) without dealing much damage. It is a viable option in groupfights but seems useless and boring in 1on1s.

Congrats on macroing your skills up.
You really thought that a game that allows you to macro all your skills up would be balanced? :lmao:

[peertje]

nothing new indeed, but thanks for confirming

[TheDor]

Damage is kind of disappointing.

How about mounted combat? You noticing hits doing much more damage compared to people with no 1h mastery?

[Viluin]

Each swing takes 1050 ms (1600ms for polearm).


This can't be right, my greatsword swings take 1100ms and 1h swords are way faster than my greatsword.

[Xelos]

#1. DPS: The damage is really bad compared to the attack speed. Even with a rank 70 1h Sword you won't be able to kill a player who knows what he is doing (as in self-healing/major potions/food). The starter sword does ~12,3 dmg, a r70 sword ~17,4 dmg in the front of a naked player with less than 30 rigor. This is at MAXED out skills and 50 Str. Each swing takes 1050 ms (1600ms for polearm).

Umm, something is wrong here. My 1-handed sword swing takes 340 ms (2-handed takes 570 ms) and I'm far behind you in skills & attributes. Of course you don't swing that fast in PvP unless hitting an AFKer, but your numbers are way off. I'm not disputing the rest, pretty much no news there.

EDIT: I've been told previously that I swing faster than others, and if I can somehow swing 3 times faster than the OP something is really fucked up.

EDIT2: See 2 posts below for more likely correct numbers (x2)

[Viluin]

My 1-handed sword swing takes 340 ms (2-handed takes 570 ms)

Hax. The entire swing (before you can start a new swing) takes longer.

[Xelos]

Hax. The entire swing (before you can start a new swing) takes longer.

Well, I was measuring it with autoclicker, so it's possible that I just synced it to exactly 2-clicks per swing, I guess that would make more sense? 1140ms per 2-hander and 680 ms per 1-hander. Certainly not 1000ms+ for 1-h though.

[FrostByte]

What are each of your Quickness stats? I doubt it cuts half of the swing time away, but it might have some effect.

[Xelos]

What are each of your Quickness stats? I doubt it cuts half of the swing time away, but it might have some effect.

49 here but I doubt I'm higher than a guy with 100 mastery. Quickness has minimal effect anyway, if it does work at all.

[Khadar]

Thanks for pointing it out guys. Can't edit the first post unfortunatly:
1h Sword: ~850-880ms

[TGIF]

#4:

Use it when someone is trying to bank his shit, hit him. then step aside directly. He will get catapulted back and you can finish him off.

:cool:

It isnt that hard

ps: I use 1 hand sword in combo with mana missles. I dry out a guy's stamina with parry, then after he's nearly done i take out the magic wand and nuke his bitch ass to death. Works ok most of the time.

[Raw]

So what? We have some really bugged up chars, or there is some underlying cause no one knows that affects swingspeed. This deffinately should be figured out. I'm trying to decide whether to roll with daggers or sword&board. Idc what anyone says daggers are straight as fuck

[BluesFunk]

So what? We have some really bugged up chars, or there is some underlying cause no one knows that affects swingspeed. This deffinately should be figured out. I'm trying to decide whether to roll with daggers or sword&board. Idc what anyone says daggers are straight as fuck

Daggers can be decent in small group/solo PvP, but only vs polearms. Against other weapons I've never seen a knifer win. It just takes forever. Much like 1h+shield.

[-=Vïci☼U§=-]

i have 77 quick and i hit more fast than 500ms in 1h

and whit more dmg than a sword at 87skill-56 mastery (i use mace and hit easly for 20 front 33 back whit a r50)

[Hurin]

Congrats on macroing your skills up.
You really thought that a game that allows you to macro all your skills up would be balanced? :lmao:

idiot you cant macro swords skill

[Swing]

idiot you cant macro swords skill


Yeah okay...

[Wrafe]

idiot you cant macro swords skill

Not if you rely on your mother's paycheck, no.

2 computers man.. lol

[Junkaboy]

Not if you rely on your mother's paycheck, no.

2 computers man.. lol

hahaha... right on

Gotta love the mom's paycheck/basement subject...

[yuppy]

you neglect to mention that you can parry. if you know how to parry you can win a lot of fights.

[Golbez01]

Lots of missing or unknown information in this thread :sly:

[yuppy]

Parry is very effective and will make your opponent run out of stam before you do.

[Wrafe]

Parry is very effective and will make your opponent run out of stam before you do.

This is not always true.

When you get Weapon Mastery, you do more damage, and drain more stamina per hit. And no, 100 parry skill does not help much (if any) at all.

35 polearm mastery vs 100 parry: both drain almost exact same amount of stam at the same rate. And this was even tested with a noobie polearm. Try a r70 polearm and I bet the shield guy is fucked.

[ARCROX]

You're not forced to swing at a guy who is parrying. Let him drain stamina while you regenerate yours.

[Flux Kimone]

arcrox ursox

[Thry]

At least for me DF really needs a fresh start on the NA server. I'm sure you guys that skilled up on invulns are having a blast hitting for 2X+ your opponents but the rest of us are not...so...much.

It's all skill when you're doing double damage.

QQ

QQ

hur.

[Yakamoz]

This is not always true.

When you get Weapon Mastery, you do more damage, and drain more stamina per hit. And no, 100 parry skill does not help much (if any) at all.

35 polearm mastery vs 100 parry: both drain almost exact same amount of stam at the same rate. And this was even tested with a noobie polearm. Try a r70 polearm and I bet the shield guy is fucked.
Nice, it makes me want to play even more...

[Epitaph]

At least for me DF really needs a fresh start on the NA server. I'm sure you guys that skilled up on invulns are having a blast hitting for 2X+ your opponents but the rest of us are not...so...much.

It's all skill when you're doing double damage.

QQ

QQ

hur.

According to AV there will be no FRESH start on the NA server, all the people who leveled there skills up on glitched mobs and invulnerable players will be able to Xfer thier toons to the NA server. So you will have 1/2 of the maxed out players on NA from day 1. the only server that will be fresh is EU2, LOL, dont hold your breath for that one.

[littl6fact]

This is not always true.

When you get Weapon Mastery, you do more damage, and drain more stamina per hit. And no, 100 parry skill does not help much (if any) at all.

35 polearm mastery vs 100 parry: both drain almost exact same amount of stam at the same rate. And this was even tested with a noobie polearm. Try a r70 polearm and I bet the shield guy is fucked.

tested and yes the guy with 100 GS/GS mastery drains your stam faster when you parry so your fucked

[The Crusader]

I'm at 100 Sword Mastery.

I stopped reading after this.

[Curiouscat]

idiot you cant macro swords skill

you are right and you wrong.
He is an idiot but you can macro weapon skills.
He is an idiot because it's irrelevant how he got skills and attended macro is legit.

Anyway...
what about mounted combat? Does your 1h weapon skills effect it?

[morde]

Can anyone confirm 1h hammer or 1h axe is better dmg at 100/100 than this sword dmg OP posted?

Sure seems low for 100/100. So is it bugged?