Give pull-ability or launch to mobs.

[Kauppaneuvos]

Mana missile + roof to beat every mob in this game, thats the way to go!
Give mobs some spell that pulls player or launches mob to player if there is no path to players location.

[Zunder22]

i use houses all the time, i am 100% sure they already knew this would happen, and i am still kinda having trouble killing some mobs like goblins, even on roofs


i say ever thing is ok here, nothing needs fixing, its perfect how it is :D

[Branwulf]

Mana missile + roof to beat every mob in this game, thats the way to go!
Give mobs some spell that pulls player or launches mob to player if there is no path to players location.

Some already do, Shadow Knights for example use a kind of sieze which pulls you towards them, gets you off buildings but it's still easy to just get back up and avoid it.

[Hellmoob]

i say ever thing is ok here, nothing needs fixing, its perfect how it is :D

You're an idiot. I can solo any mob in the game by jump-launch + bow/magic. This is not "advanced mob AI" or "nightmare Quake bots" (beta tester first impressions) or even remotely challenging. It's a simple test of player vs. boredom.

[Helba]

Mana missile + roof to beat every mob in this game, thats the way to go!
Give mobs some spell that pulls player or launches mob to player if there is no path to players location.

ok there is a problem here. the monsters them selfs are uneffected by launch. also do you think the monsters would use launch for them selfs? they will try to cast it on you. so EPIC FAIL!

[Kauppaneuvos]

ok there is a problem here. the monsters them selfs are uneffected by launch. also do you think the monsters would use launch for them selfs? they will try to cast it on you. so EPIC FAIL!

Are just a stupid or what? Point was that give them launch-like ability (make some cool animation and teleport fe.) so mobs could actually fight against players using roofs to kill mobs.

Oh wait, I did jsut feed the troll :(

[Mutant Messiah]

Until monsters are worth killing, they can't improve their AI.

This is a pvp game, please ffs pve should be retarded simple. I am so sick of seeing naked asshats with nothing to lose because they are too scared to leave their care-bear cities with their best gear cause it took them 100 years to get their full set of plate from mobs...

If I drop all my shit, so should mobs.

[Kauppaneuvos]

Until monsters are worth killing, they can't improve their AI.

This is a pvp game, please ffs pve should be retarded simple. I am so sick of seeing naked asshats with nothing to lose because they are too scared to leave their care-bear cities with their best gear cause it took them 100 years to get their full set of plate from mobs...

If I drop all my shit, so should mobs.

And how is this related to this thread?
PVE is simple, go next to mob , beat it and get hit by mob.
This is about mana-missile on roof- tactic.

[Xelioth]

implement a long-range knockback. give it to anything (players included) that uses bows. bows already knockback as things are now, so just give them a skill to make it more potent.

give caster mobs some other way of dealing with this. maybe just have them hold their spell ready to fire until you pop your head out to shoot them. for that matter, have archer mobs to the same. they already check for line of sight before casting in my experience; now make them check again before firing the spell.

[Helba]

Are just a stupid or what? Point was that give them launch-like ability (make some cool animation and teleport fe.) so mobs could actually fight against players using roofs to kill mobs.

Oh wait, I did jsut feed the troll :(

wow your just stupid. omg
you dont even know what a troll is :(
if you noticed all the abilitys that the monsters have you can have? so i am guessing your saying that they are going to give us a new ability so that monsters can find it easyer to get ontop of stuff?

[Fro]

Mana missile + roof to beat every mob in this game, thats the way to go!
Give mobs some spell that pulls player or launches mob to player if there is no path to players location.

well they should mabe give the mobs only a billion health each instead of the trillion they have now. That might even things up if mobs can pulll us out our trees.

[Mutant Messiah]

And how is this related to this thread?
PVE is simple, go next to mob , beat it and get hit by mob.
This is about mana-missile on roof- tactic.

It's related because, at the moment with the risk vs reward mobs are fine... if you're going to improve monster AI, then ffs improve the risk, vs reward. Monsters have too much health, deal too much damage and have fantastic damage reduction AND AUTO AIM... if the ai was better then AV would not have to have settled for that pathetic way of improving their mobs.

[Flesh]

wow your just stupid. omg
you dont even know what a troll is :(
if you noticed all the abilitys that the monsters have you can have? so i am guessing your saying that they are going to give us a new ability so that monsters can find it easyer to get ontop of stuff?

are you drunk?

[revenoff]

It's related because, at the moment with the risk vs reward mobs are fine... if you're going to improve monster AI, then ffs improve the risk, vs reward. Monsters have too much health, deal too much damage and have fantastic damage reduction AND AUTO AIM... if the ai was better then AV would not have to have settled for that pathetic way of improving their mobs.

if you're implying mobs hit %100 of the time because they have "auto aim" you're wrong

[Heceldi]

Go attack some Wildtribe Mages, they have launch.

[Dr Who]

ive seen some archer mobs arch there arrows up so they can hit me on top fo the roof...

[kingkongbanana]

deathless mages have a launch that can fuck you up bad. but it doesnt take long learn how to avoid it.

[rwp80]

Mana missile + roof to beat every mob in this game, thats the way to go!
Give mobs some spell that pulls player or launches mob to player if there is no path to players location.

Very good idea, but it needs to be implemented well.

You're right, it's a shame that although the mobs have quite creative AI, they're still limited to charging into melee attacks or spamming ranged attacks.

On that note, make mobs with a delay on the melee attack direction. Currently if you go to melee with a mob, it will hit you no matter what, but against players, you can dodge and joust.

[TheDor]

Very good idea, but it needs to be implemented well.

You're right, it's a shame that although the mobs have quite creative AI, they're still limited to charging into melee attacks or spamming ranged attacks.

On that note, make mobs with a delay on the melee attack direction. Currently if you go to melee with a mob, it will hit you no matter what, but against players, you can dodge and joust.

If it's a mob with daggers, all you have to do is walk backwards and keep swinging, they will miss 90% of the attacks as they walk towards you.

[Sanshi44]

Mana missile + roof to beat every mob in this game, thats the way to go!
Give mobs some spell that pulls player or launches mob to player if there is no path to players location.

Some mobs have come hitler and it funny when they use it agaist u cause u fly 2wards them

[bongloads]

let their launch/begone etc spells go thru geometry to hit people