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Alexatm
04-11-2009, 12:39 AM
how much could i sell a stack of proccesed wood for ???
proccesed: meaning gone from tree to workbench and then into sack:confused:

Mimodance
04-11-2009, 12:42 AM
how much could i sell a stack of proccesed wood for ???
proccesed: meaning gone from tree to workbench and then into sack:confused:

Wtf?

ikhoefnix
04-11-2009, 12:44 AM
how much could i sell a stack of proccesed wood for ???
proccesed: meaning gone from tree to workbench and then into sack:confused:

a stack..... uhm...

Rhynn
04-11-2009, 12:45 AM
How much is in a stack? 1.75-2g per wood? I can't recall.

Fakner
04-11-2009, 01:17 AM
how much could i sell a stack of proccesed wood for ???
proccesed: meaning gone from tree to workbench and then into sack:confused:

IMO: 5G per timber, 15 Per wood

I mine Iron Ore, the Nodes contain 50 succesfull pulls, appx 30 being iron ore.

I do this for about 4 nodes, anything more, and you are taking uncalculable risks.

so one trip that might take an hour from bank, to bank.

Now to add to the mix, 5 Iron Ore = 2 Iron Ingots. (95% S.)

125 "Iron Ore"= 25 "Iron Ingot" = 1hour (gather) + 1hour (refine/trade) -25 iron / 2 hours

I would deem each "Iron Ore" to be valued at for its overall obtainment, 5 gold per.

so in this scale model, one raw "Iron Ingot" material is split to appx. worth of 13 gold per.

But sence crafters are easy to gank (threw the entire gathering / refining / trading )
with low stamina usually, or due to encumbrance, as well as usually not being aware of what is currently happeing in their immident surrounding. As for any good mining opporations, you must leave the protection of a friendly city, past mounted mobsters.

So in adition to the 13G well add 2G per, because, in doing this we have a lask of time to turn a real profit, in real mobs.

Gob Scout 1 hour = 300 Gold x 2 = 600Gold

1hour of mining (serious materials) + ( polishing and trade ) for another hour
125 ore = 25 ingot = 15G per = 375 G for 2 hours. [ 1/2 that of GOB SCOUTS!!! ]

Mining DONT = major income / Mining = Bush stimulas package... just enought for that fancy new car sterio CD MP3 radio DVD 7" touchscreen, not the car you put it in...
So dont let people tell you, if you've pick up mining, that:
YOUR TIME AND MATERIAL ARE ONLY WORTH 10.5 GOLD PER INGOT TO THEM!!!

I have seen this spammed in Race Alliance many times, 10.5 is ALL its worth,
DO NOT BELIEVE THEM! The Ones who take the time aside to argue with you that your mates are "worthless" Are the same people buying MASS STOCKS of mats, from people who dont know better, to sell them for 25G when the rest of the market finally sees is value, from behind the vail of thoes who spam "A BUYERS PRICE."

I'll hold onto all my 1000 Iron Ingots untill people who mine, come to a conclusion, that our time is worht alot more than they try to pay us for... other wise, they wouldnt pay us at all for something... that is a burden for all to accumilate after all.

262.5 Gold for 25 Iron Ingot for 2hours of paranoid indused GRINDING
this is what some people would have you believe this is what your worth to your self.... I say, fight back, and hold your resources, till they cry to be sold 1 per 25!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

chemicalrave
04-11-2009, 01:21 AM
IMO: 5G per timber, 15 Per wood

I mine Iron Ore, the Nodes contain 50 succesfull pulls, appx 30 being iron ore.

I do this for about 4 nodes, anything more, and you are taking uncalculable risks.

so one trip that might take an hour from bank, to bank.

Now to add to the mix, 5 Iron Ore = 2 Iron Ingots. (95% S.)

125 "Iron Ore"= 25 "Iron Ingot" = 1hour (gather) + 1hour (refine/trade) -25 iron / 2 hours

I would deem each "Iron Ore" to be valued at for its overall obtainment, 5 gold per.

so in this scale model, one raw "Iron Ingot" material is split to appx. worth of 13 gold per.

But sence crafters are easy to gank (threw the entire gathering / refining / trading )
with low stamina usually, or due to encumbrance, as well as usually not being aware of what is currently happeing in their immident surrounding. As for any good mining opporations, you must leave the protection of a friendly city, past mounted mobsters.

So in adition to the 13G well add 2G per, because, in doing this we have a lask of time to turn a real profit, in real mobs.

Gob Scout 1 hour = 300 Gold x 2 = 600Gold

1hour of mining (serious materials) + ( polishing and trade ) for another hour
125 ore = 25 ingot = 15G per = 375 G for 2 hours. [ 1/2 that of GOB SCOUTS!!! ]

Mining DONT = major income / Mining = Bush stimulas package... just enought for that fancy new car sterio CD MP3 radio DVD 7" touchscreen, not the car you put it in...
So dont let people tell you, if you've pick up mining, that:
YOUR TIME AND MATERIAL ARE ONLY WORTH 10.5 GOLD PER INGOT TO THEM!!!

I have seen this spammed in Race Alliance many times, 10.5 is ALL its worth,
DO NOT BELIEVE THEM! The Ones who take the time aside to argue with you that your mates are "worthless" Are the same people buying MASS STOCKS of mats, from people who dont know better, to sell them for 25G when the rest of the market finally sees is value, from behind the vail of thoes who spam "A BUYERS PRICE."

I'll hold onto all my 1000 Iron Ingots untill people who mine, come to a conclusion, that our time is worht alot more than they try to pay us for... other wise, they wouldnt pay us at all for something... that is a burden for all to accumilate after all.

dude....i get 40-46 ore per node where the hell are you getting these numbers from??

Fakner
04-11-2009, 01:29 AM
dude....i get 40-46 ore per node where the hell are you getting these numbers from??
An average from my personal experience, 30-35 being closer of the average.

Would you like me to spam you my 100mining/100mastery ingame?
and no you dont get 45, you get Appx.
30-35 Iron ore
15-20 sulfer
and usually a gem, so please stay away troll.

Whacko
04-11-2009, 09:44 AM
15g per Wood?...holy shit man trees are everywhere thus ...

you figure you have a saw....and that can easily take care of 1500 units.+
so that cost isn't in the calculations.

Now you have an axe...simple NPC cost 20g...but you can get them easily from toolboxes and mob drops.
So we can Add maybe .5gold

Time to chop a node with 100/100skill will be 5-7 minutes.
But to just be simple and have Loose timings we will go with 10 minutes.
on average for wood you easily get 35+ and resin.

Now you chop 6 nodes before the axe breaks. thats easily 210 timber.
And lets just say the failure rate for making wood is 5%

In 1 hour you are most capable of getting atleast 84 wood.

So in essence if you charge 5g per wood that's a 420 gold an hour and that's being very loose in the economics.

Why the hell would you need more for doing something so simple?
Worried about being ganked?...Hell man that's what comes with the job.


It's a steady living...why try to be greedy.
15g per wood just doesn't make sense especially you can be undercut by any guild that has access to a grove.
Not to mention that you can easily chop wood because it doesn't really require scouting.

But hey if you must be greedy tops for wood should be 7g per.

Then again you figure a simple weaponsmith wants to make a spiked club, it takes 3 wood and 1 iron ingot so with your math a simple club would cost in excess of 45 gold for a 1handed club that does tops .38 damage.
Hell man think about the production chain. Harvesters are the backbone of the crafted economy if we charge more for raw materials the finished product turns into a huge cost to the consumer.
If you harvest for profit perhaps you are looking at the wrong profession.

There is a time for greed but damn if I found idiots to pay 15g per wood ....

Where the hell do you find those idiots?...they are Orcs aren't they?