Catch my 100/60 polearm skills

[Negocromn]

To all the unlucky noobs, I'm sorry it'll take 6 months to make it to 60 polearm mastery now.

[afroab]

one week may be if u have a friend

[kelthroun]

To all the unlucky noobs, I'm sorry it'll take 6 months to make it to 60 polearm mastery now.


and why is that?

[Makestro]

and why is that?

can't beat on immune people for skill gain anymore...

[~Gank Me~]

just fight with a friend for a few hours, parry each others blows, use heal self, and whatever

it doesnt take any longer to level up, in theory, you just cant press the easy button now

[kelthroun]

lol...its boring to do that anyway..believe me someone like you could find a way with the new system as well...

[Lictor]

Add the weapon deterioration to the complications now...

[Rhynn]

I exploited the attacking invulnerable players at login with my polearm and got to 100 skill, 60 mastery without leaving town. I'm better than you because I saw a system that was broken and carebear exploited it before the devs closed the loophole but now I'm screwed because I have to actually leave town to skill-gain and I have no defense!!!

There, I fixed it for you.

[~Gank Me~]

get together with your clan and make 100,000 r0 weapons to spam with

dont throw away goblin r0 swords and bows

problem solved

[Makestro]

just fight with a friend for a few hours, parry each others blows, use heal self, and whatever

it doesnt take any longer to level up, in theory, you just cant press the easy button now

Actually it does take longer

You lose stamina for hitting a person parrying.
you both need to rest because you can't use newbie items anymore so it costs gold and you can't afford for the vultures that lurk every corner looting any grave they see.
can't use newbie items anymore.

The same goes for magic, anyone new to the game is going to burn through so many staffs while the people in for a few weeks where able to get started and get to decent spells worth casting. Anyone coming into the game new is going to be very dissapointed at how much harder it became.

[Makestro]

get together with your clan and make 100,000 r0 weapons to spam with

dont throw away goblin r0 swords and bows

problem solved

Not all the weapons are as easy to get as the rank 0 one handed sword from goblins lol...

[Chidar]

0-25 in just over an hour - use a friend

[mickhazz]

0-25 in just over an hour - use a friend

lol you are crazy :|

impossible

[Euvici]

To all the unlucky noobs, I'm sorry it'll take 6 months to make it to 60 polearm mastery now.

Ohhh i see someone missed the boat and is mad :ninja:

lol 100 polearm huh so you havn't swung your weapon since i guess:ohno:

[Negocromn]

just fight with a friend for a few hours, parry each others blows, use heal self, and whatever

it doesnt take any longer to level up, in theory, you just cant press the easy button now

Wrong.

My training
Materials:
- Chaos Stone
- 2+ afkers
- 1+ friends

Method:
I would hit the afkers until my stamina was gone, then my friend would kill me and I would ressurect with 100% stamina.

No resting, no breaking weapons, 99% time hitting targets.

The old training was at least 3x faster than now, was also very simple and free.

PS: Had to explain cuz you obviously didnt had a clue about what I was talking about.

[Negocromn]

Ohhh i see someone missed the boat and is mad :ninja:

lol 100 polearm huh so you havn't swung your weapon since i guess:ohno:

troll much?

[peertje]

Wrong.

My training
Materials:
- Chaos Stone
- 2+ afkers
- 1+ friends

Method:
I would hit the afkers until my stamina was gone, then my friend would kill me and I would ressurect with 100% stamina.

No resting, no breaking weapons, 99% time hitting targets.

The old training was at least 3x faster than now, was also very simple and free.

PS: Had to explain cuz you obviously didnt had a clue about what I was talking about.

yep, this was awesome. Havent done it a lot tho, too bad...

[Requiamer]

Wrong.

My training
Materials:
- Chaos Stone
- 2+ afkers
- 1+ friends

Method:
I would hit the afkers until my stamina was gone, then my friend would kill me and I would ressurect with 100% stamina.

No resting, no breaking weapons, 99% time hitting targets.

The old training was at least 3x faster than now, was also very simple and free.

PS: Had to explain cuz you obviously didnt had a clue about what I was talking about.

what a big boy you are!
If i was an admin i would just have an ip search and reset your skills, just for fun (your fun actually).

[Davmcnee]

Wrong.

My training
Materials:
- Chaos Stone
- 2+ afkers
- 1+ friends

Method:
I would hit the afkers until my stamina was gone, then my friend would kill me and I would ressurect with 100% stamina.

No resting, no breaking weapons, 99% time hitting targets.

The old training was at least 3x faster than now, was also very simple and free.

PS: Had to explain cuz you obviously didnt had a clue about what I was talking about.

On the flip-side, your method only raises one skill (ignoring armour proficiencies etc). Using a buddy to parry may raise your weapon skill slower, but you are also going to get your defence and parry etc up as well. I'd say this pretty much makes up for the difference

Edit: Oh and seeing as polearms are distinctly second to a 1h + board now, nice work levelling up a second rate skill. Waste time much?

[Khahan]

Nerf Negocromn :D

[McDoogs]

I couldn't handle the weapon grind anymore. Once I hit 50 polearm mastery I stopped.

Probably should have kept it up to 100 polearms though :/

[action-reaction]

nerf the newbie weopens that they make only half dmg and i am fine.

[Hence]

Yep it was an over reaction on Avent's part... How god awful will it be now to train magic? You won't even gain skills in magic until you level up your weapon killing goblins so that you can even attempt to kill a shaman for his staff.

This was a really stupid idea, and it may just kill this game.
Seriously, everyone will be stuck leveling up their one handed axes because that is the only weapon they will be able to get for several days.

Why change this now, there are much more important things wrong with this game besides limiting its enjoyment.

I too feel terribly sorry for any new players, what a bunch of BS.

[Sanshi44]

nooby weps cant skill up either anymore : P

[Paganizer]

0-25 in just over an hour - use a friend

Hehe.. up to 25 is easy. It gets like exponentially harder as the skill raises though. Just wait til it takes an hour per skill gain (ohh and that was with the old beating on invulnerables repeatedly). At 40+ I don't think you will be saying it's easy.

[littl6fact]

[QUOTE=Davmcnee;3224746]On the flip-side, your method only raises one skill (ignoring armour proficiencies etc). Using a buddy to parry may raise your weapon skill slower, but you are also going to get your defence and parry etc up as well. I'd say this pretty much makes up for the difference
QUOTE]

first off you raise armor proficiency by hitting targets when your naked so no he will still have higher weapon skill and armor proficiency and rigor well that goes up when you afk for hours at stones and let your buddies beat on you... anyone just starting is fucked imo

[Hooligan.]

I know plenty of bugged mobs that cant hit you but you can hit them, and they will just sit there taking it with 100k HP. Only difference is you can't suicide like at a chaos stone, have to mana2stam every few mins, costing resin (but increasing mana2stam spell skill I guess)

[Makestro]

I know plenty of bugged mobs that cant hit you but you can hit them, and they will just sit there taking it with 100k HP. Only difference is you can't suicide like at a chaos stone, have to mana2stam every few mins, costing resin (but increasing mana2stam spell skill I guess)

mana to stamina doesn't change at all from 1-75 people are saying.

[Darkwish]

at 27 mana to stam it gives 3 ticks of 8 which if i remember correctly was 3 ticks of 6-6.5 at 1.0

[Gammabeam]

You're a good example why that change needed to happen.

And in a few weeks or months your 'advantage' will be zilch.

However, a 'correction' for those people who have 'impossible' weapon skills would be a good idea. I support that.

Just like the Rigor exploiter as well...

Ah yes and the full stammina at ressurect need a correction too.

[DaveDFF]

Not all the weapons are as easy to get as the rank 0 one handed sword from goblins lol...

It is so easy for anyone to make their own rank 0 weapons. You can have a near unlimited supply within a day of starting.

[Mimodance]

There, I fixed it for you.

Win! :D

[Apex Vertigo]

It is so easy for anyone to make their own rank 0 weapons. You can have a near unlimited supply within a day of starting.

Can you please make me some r0 pole arms? Those seem pretty fucking hard to get a mass supply.

[Veterin]

Can you please make me some r0 pole arms? Those seem pretty fucking hard to get a mass supply.

Yeah some people got gimped by the changes as only some r0 weapons drop on easy mobs (1h swords, axes, clubs bows ect). No easy mobs that drop polearms. Lucky i'm a weaponsmith and make myself a tone of polearms haha

[Viskath]

Can you please make me some r0 pole arms? Those seem pretty fucking hard to get a mass supply.

polearms are one of the easiest, no iron required!

[Silver Fang]

Can you please make me some r0 pole arms? Those seem pretty fucking hard to get a mass supply.

afaik, impaler (r0 pole) use stone instead which is very easy to get. It is the easiest to craft in the game.

[Milo Hobgoblin]

polearms are one of the easiest, no iron required!

huh? r0 polearms require 2 ingots.. I made a bunch last night

[Mulciber]

huh? r0 polearms require 2 ingots.. I made a bunch last night

check and then post so you dont feel so stupid.

[MrDDT]

I didnt macro on afk noobs using the shield exploit and my GS is 85 and my GS mastery is 40.
Sorry but your way was dumb, plus I got tons of gold out of it, and I dont use R0 weapons nor do I use or used the newbie weapon.

I bet you had lots of fun with your 40+ hours of hitting AFK shieldbots haha. I hope you use your skill to do something in game now because you just wasted days of time trying to get a skill that you could have played and got it with.

[Drekor]

huh? r0 polearms require 2 ingots.. I made a bunch last night

There are some you can make with stone instead.

[Milo Hobgoblin]

There are some you can make with stone instead.

I have one listed.. the R0 cultists glaive.. requires 2 ingots.. didnt see another

[LordValas]

Impaler only takes 4 wood 2 leather and 1 stone

[Multisurgeon]

What they need to do is get rid of weapon mastery, that's where the real problems start.

[Exevos]

Has nobody notices that the skill gains are faster now? When I was hitting invuln players at 50 skill, I was getting one tenth of a point after 30 minutes, now I almost get a full point in great swords after 40 minutes.

In fact, I'd say its easier to raise it now, just not solo.

[Milo Hobgoblin]

Impaler only takes 4 wood 2 leather and 1 stone

Thanks for the nfo.. I'll have to get some stone and make some.. tired of wasting ingots on rank 0 training crap.

[GodSmak]

The past 3 days my friend and I have been macroing his melee and my parry nearly non-stop. He started at 40 Polearm and finished early this morning with 59 pole arm. Nearly 20 levels in 3 days of hard core macroing. My parry however levels way faster. Starting at around 23ish parry, my parry is now 69.

Just a lil fyi to everyone.

[disillusioned]

The past 3 days my friend and I have been macroing his melee and my parry nearly non-stop. He started at 40 Polearm and finished early this morning with 59 pole arm. Nearly 20 levels in 3 days of hard core macroing. My parry however levels way faster. Starting at around 23ish parry, my parry is now 69.

Just a lil fyi to everyone.

That's accurate according to my tests. How many weapons has he gone through? 20ish?

Good luck finding someone who wants to level parry though. High parry does nothing different from low parry.

[Wrafe]

That's accurate according to my tests. How many weapons has he gone through? 20ish?

Good luck finding someone who wants to level parry though. High parry does nothing different from low parry.

You parry so you dont lose health. Stam bar regens before health bar.

+defense
+rigor

I went from 1 polearm to 81, and 37 mastery. 2nd account went from nothing to 47 rigor and 51 defense; 100 parry happened around 60~ polearm.

[katahlyn]

Impaler only takes 4 wood 2 leather and 1 stone

Yup, this guy is right.
And btw, superb signature. :p

[srt4eblue]

It is still very easy to raise your weapon skills, you only need to replace your weapon, carry resin, food, and stam pots. This is not beating on a parrying friend. If you were to do that you'd be wasting tons of time after 50 skill. I've gone from 65 melee skill to 93ish in the past two days or so.

[ltankhsd]

Has nobody notices that the skill gains are faster now? When I was hitting invuln players at 50 skill, I was getting one tenth of a point after 30 minutes, now I almost get a full point in great swords after 40 minutes.

In fact, I'd say its easier to raise it now, just not solo.

You were doing it wrong then. With a shearsword constantly swinging I would get .4 skill per stamina bar each tenth coming at the 1/4th point in the stam bar and it timed out to be around .1 per minute if I recall. I only got to do it a little bit before AV changed it and screwed me.

[fCo_Pancho]

...No easy mobs that drop polearms...This is false.

[matjako]

Yep it was an over reaction on Avent's part... How god awful will it be now to train magic? You won't even gain skills in magic until you level up your weapon killing goblins so that you can even attempt to kill a shaman for his staff.

This was a really stupid idea, and it may just kill this game.
Seriously, everyone will be stuck leveling up their one handed axes because that is the only weapon they will be able to get for several days.

Why change this now, there are much more important things wrong with this game besides limiting its enjoyment.

I too feel terribly sorry for any new players, what a bunch of BS.

Maybe you're over reacting?
Shamans arent that hard to kill at all.

[Taneos]

It is still very easy to raise your weapon skills, you only need to replace your weapon, carry resin, food, and stam pots. This is not beating on a parrying friend. If you were to do that you'd be wasting tons of time after 50 skill. I've gone from 65 melee skill to 93ish in the past two days or so.

Only if you killed Mobs 24/7 and did not sleep for these 2 days .. and eben then .. probably not.

[Haz1337]

To all the unlucky noobs, I'm sorry it'll take 6 months to make it to 60 polearm mastery now.

catch my polearm skills" hitting people with shield on their head.. u must be so proud of your self. RTARD

[Xez]

The past 3 days my friend and I have been macroing his melee and my parry nearly non-stop. He started at 40 Polearm and finished early this morning with 59 pole arm. Nearly 20 levels in 3 days of hard core macroing. My parry however levels way faster. Starting at around 23ish parry, my parry is now 69.

Just a lil fyi to everyone.


If this info is correct then play as intended is = play too loose but work/macro/grind to win.