Once Starcraft 2 is released...

[Smurfz]

...I can stop playing all these shit games for a nice loooooong while.

Seriously, WC3 kept me occupied for about 1.5 yrs just with custom games and world edit (never got into melee). SC kept me occupied longer just with it's melee. Now if we combine WC3's custom's and world editor (except enhanced), with SC's melee, we get a game that will keep me occupied for atleast 2 yrs.

:ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno:

[Temet nosce]

Problem: Completely different people are making SC2.

[Smurfz]

Problem: Completely different people are making SC2.

Dustin Browder is a pretty good replacement lead designer.

The game mechanics seem really fun. We'll have to see how they will play out, but atm it seems very promising.

All the hardcore koreans say the game is incredibly fun, just too "easy" with MBS, automine, etc. (which quite frankly I don't give a shit about).

[Temet nosce]

Dustin Browder is a pretty good replacement lead designer.

The game mechanics seem really fun. We'll have to see how they will play out, but atm it seems very promising.

He made Generals.

I have to admit though... Even if they completely fuck up the game, I won't give a shit so long as they include a world editor. I stopped playing WC3 ladder within weeks of the game releasing, and I'm still playing WC3 itself seven years later.

[Vessol]

You mean SC 1.5?

[Beeblebrox]

You mean SC 1.5?

Wouldn't that actually be one of the greatest games ever?

[verlox2]

I want Diablo 3 more

[Temet nosce]

Wouldn't that actually be one of the greatest games ever?

No, the patches they added would no doubt decrease the value. However, I doubt they could fuck it up completely... Unfortunately however, this is really a new game.

I want Diablo 3 more

You won't get it, they have a completely fresh team making D3, it has nothing to do with Diablo.

[Vessol]

I want Diablo 3 more

Go play Nethack, you'll get the same experience.

[Ghostpaw]

I'm worried about the lower skill ceiling creating a scenario where, on the professional level, the smallest mistake can doom that player to lose. That will make Starcraft II professional games not as interesting to watch.

[verlox2]

No, the patches they added would no doubt decrease the value. However, I doubt they could fuck it up completely... Unfortunately however, this is really a new game.



You won't get it, they have a completely fresh team making D3, it has nothing to do with Diablo.

I'm chill with Diablo being converted into a Oberon, King of the Fairies.

[Beeblebrox]

I want Diablo 3 more

ohyez me too, I hope they don't ruin the game.

[Temet nosce]

I'm chill with Diablo being converted into a Oberon, King of the Fairies.

If these shadows have offended, think but this and all is mended... Sadly, I doubt that'll prove true about the game.

[Ghostpaw]

I'm worried that MBS, automine, etc. creating a scenario where, on the professional level, there will be only one "right" way to play a race and any deviation from it will doom that player to lose.

[verlox2]

If these shadows have offended, think but this and all is mended... Sadly, I doubt that'll prove true about the game.

You're just negative since Darkfall turned out to be a pieace of poo.

[Beeblebrox]

I'm worried that MBS, automine, etc. creating a scenario where, on the professional level, there will be only one "right" way to play a race and any deviation from it will doom that player to lose.

You're not the first to say that on these forums....or was it also you the other time it was mentioned...? Well, I don't care that much about the professional level starcraft, but lets all hope your worries don't translate into reality.

[heroshade]

I honestly think Starcraft 2 is going to suck.

[Temet nosce]

You're just negative since Darkfall turned out to be a pieace of poo.

I've been negative about SC2 and D3 since they were announced. Or more precisely I've been steadfast in pointing out they aren't actual sequels. I admit they might be good games.

[BlueOreo]

I'm with you guys. Please pray for Starcraft 2.

[verlox2]

I've been negative about SC2 and D3 since they were announced. Or more precisely I've been steadfast in pointing out they aren't actual sequels. I admit they might be good games.

Why won't Diablo 3 be an actual sequel?

[Temet nosce]

Why won't Diablo 3 be an actual sequel?

It's made by entirely different people.

It'd be like someone other than Tolkien writing sequels to his work, except I liked the Diablo games better than his work.

[verlox2]

It's made by entirely different people.

It'd be like someone other than Tolkien writing sequels to his work, except I liked the Diablo games better than his work.

So just because the orginal production team isn't working on it, means it won't be a true Diablo game?

[Temet nosce]

So just because the orginal production team isn't working on it, means it won't be a true Diablo game?

Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner! The law may say that Blizzard has the right to whore out Diablo with the original devs gone, but that doesn't mean anything these idiots produce and slap the name on will actually be Diablo.

[verlox2]

Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner! The law may say that Blizzard has the right to whore out Diablo with the original devs gone, but that doesn't mean anything these idiots produce and slap the name on will actually be Diablo.

Even if it has a good amount of the same characters, classes, and overall setting?

Remember Hellgate: London? That game was produced by a decent portion of the Diablo team, look how that turned out.

[Temet nosce]

Even if it has a good amount of the same characters, classes, and overall setting?

It's irrelevant. They didn't create Diablo or Diablo 2, and the game they make will not be the continuation the actual devs would've made.

Remember Hellgate: London? That game was produced by a decent portion of the Diablo team, look how that turned out.

I staffed at the largest fansite, and I know the devs personally so yes, I remember. However, my point wasn't about game quality (I'm not denying HG:L was horrible), it was about whether or not something is a sequel (also, HG:L was made with basically no budget, their PR guy was the writer).

[verlox2]

[QUOTE=Temet nosce;3132037]It's irrelevant. They didn't create Diablo or Diablo 2, and the game they make will not be the continuation the actual devs would've made.QUOTE]

That's not irrelevant at all! If it continues the story it makes it a sequel. If the original devs were making Diablo 3, and the final game ended up being Hello Kitty, then they slapped Diablo on it, would that make it a sequel?

The thing that is irrelevant is the orginal devs. They aren't the ones making it. They aren't the ones continuing the overplot of Diablo.

[Temet nosce]

That's not irrelevant at all! If it continues the story it makes it a sequel. If the original devs were making Diablo 3, and the final game ended up being Hello Kitty, then they slapped Diablo on it, would that make it a sequel?

The thing that is irrelevant is the orginal devs. They aren't the ones making it. They aren't the ones continuing the overplot of Diablo.

So lets just toss out all the people who create things in favor of giving away their stuff to other people who are more bendable and willing to do what we order right? Also, your example was entirely pointless (Obviously if they changed their mind and set out to make something else it wouldn't be Diablo).

This is roughly equivalent to selling a painting by some bunch of random people who've never painted before, and labeling it as if it were by a master. It doesn't matter if they try to imitate the style, it's still not the actual thing.

Also, bullshit how the fuck would they continue an "overplot" when they have no idea what it was? They can write up what they think should happen, but that's not an actual continuation, just their own ideas which are not Diablo.

[heroshade]

I gotta agree with Verlox here. If they continue the story, it's still a Diablo game. Story wise. Game play wise, I'm sure it won't be Diablo, and I'm sure it's going to suck Diablo's spiky flaming cock.

[Temet nosce]

I gotta agree with Verlox here. If they continue the story, it's still a Diablo game. Story wise. Game play wise, I'm sure it won't be Diablo, and I'm sure it's going to suck Diablo's spiky flaming cock.

So they somehow used magic to divine what the story would've been? Holy shit! Explain, I'm listening intently here Snipes.

[Temet nosce]

Right, it's been more than ten minutes. I'm going to sleep since no other baseless nonsense has been posted. Just for anyone who's still confused, a true sequel is made at the sole discretion and intention of the original creators.

[Solrac]

So they somehow used magic to divine what the story would've been? Holy shit! Explain, I'm listening intently here Snipes.

Actually I do believe they made it up... I mean come on?? the evil was banished from the world so it comes from outside!?!?!... so what after you beat teh ev0l met30rz it comes from mars? hmmm... omg this must be the presequel of doom! :lmao:

But seriously... let's just hope it delivers.

[Mebit]

...I can stop playing all these shit games for a nice loooooong while.

Seriously, WC3 kept me occupied for about 1.5 yrs just with custom games and world edit (never got into melee). SC kept me occupied longer just with it's melee. Now if we combine WC3's custom's and world editor (except enhanced), with SC's melee, we get a game that will keep me occupied for atleast 2 yrs.

:ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno:

I fraking hate DOTA, urggh. No stratergy at all to it, and thats all WC3 is about. :bang:

[Agge]

I fraking hate DOTA, urggh. No stratergy at all to it, and thats all WC3 is about. :bang:

I bet you're just a sore loser.

As for SC2, I'm expecting the worst to be honest, and that would be that they bring in the Xelnaga into the game and story.

Still, the community with al it's custom maps will moast likely save it soo I'll buy it regardless.

[Adraedan]

I always felt the DoW games were far better than anything Blizzard ever put out.

[iza]

I fraking hate DOTA, urggh. No stratergy at all to it, and thats all WC3 is about. :bang:
noob

[Erkki]

hopefully it will keep you busy enough so that you wont ever come back here and post crappy topics like this