Do something about the way of fighting...

[Lupios]

The idea of an open PvP Game is awesome, but not created in a good way yet.

There is no funny and espacially realistic way of fighting.

1)Your equipment does not have any sense. You wear Banded or maybe Scale? Whatever, you see 2-3 naked guys, who kill you very easily. Same with weapons.

SO: Give armors a sense. Make it possible that a 2-3 naked guys NEVER Ever got a chance against an equiped one.

2)The fightingstyle is terrible. No nice attackmoves, no nice spells at the beginning, no sensefull fightmovement.
Where is the fun if your opponent always running circles aruond you like a lightning? Thats not realistic or funny. Its impossible to attack him with spells or arrows. The movement is crap rightnow. So please do not crash the whole potencial of open PvP and start get good ideas of make it better.

[Fro]

Combat is crap. I agree wearing absolutely no armor should carry stiff penalties in pvp.

[Kalledk]

The idea of an open PvP Game is awesome, but not created in a good way yet.

There is no funny and espacially realistic way of fighting.

1)Your equipment does not have any sense. You wear Banded or maybe Scale? Whatever, you see 2-3 naked guys, who kill you very easily. Same with weapons.

SO: Give armors a sense. Make it possible that a 2-3 naked guys NEVER Ever got a chance against an equiped one.

2)The fightingstyle is terrible. No nice attackmoves, no nice spells at the beginning, no sensefull fightmovement.
Where is the fun if your opponent always running circles aruond you like a lightning? Thats not realistic or funny. Its impossible to attack him with spells or arrows. The movement is crap rightnow. So please do not crash the whole potencial of open PvP and start get good ideas of make it better.


This is NOT true, really. Don't you get it yet? You could easily take down 3 naked guys if you know what you were doing.

1: Start shooting arrows at your first target (he should be dead before he reaches you)

2: The two other guys would't be any problem, avoid and block attacks and take them down slowly.

This is so easy if you have skills.... :ninja:

[Luskan]

The idea of an open PvP Game is awesome, but not created in a good way yet.

There is no funny and espacially realistic way of fighting.

1)Your equipment does not have any sense. You wear Banded or maybe Scale? Whatever, you see 2-3 naked guys, who kill you very easily. Same with weapons.

SO: Give armors a sense. Make it possible that a 2-3 naked guys NEVER Ever got a chance against an equiped one.

2)The fightingstyle is terrible. No nice attackmoves, no nice spells at the beginning, no sensefull fightmovement.
Where is the fun if your opponent always running circles aruond you like a lightning? Thats not realistic or funny. Its impossible to attack him with spells or arrows. The movement is crap rightnow. So please do not crash the whole potencial of open PvP and start get good ideas of make it better.

armor is good, your doing something wrong.. and i NEVER leav home alone with gear i cant aford to loos. Dont destroy this game to.

[b9er]

dude.. if you can't handle naked dudes in full scale that means you are very low on your weapon skills and they are high on them.. That is the only way

We wiped a naked group of humans yesterday and they did NO damage to us. I mean the only amount of damage they even dealt was regenerated by the time they were all dead.

They had 5 or 6 and we had 2 then a 3rd came up.

[Lupios]

Yes Yes...

mimimi
Only cry on my "Naked Guy" Comment.
Nobody is able to answer the battlemovement crap.

[b9er]

Yes Yes...

mimimi
Only cry on my "Naked Guy" Comment.
Nobody is able to answer the battlemovement crap.

it was not a "comment" it was the first point to your argument. But it is an invalid point...

And the fighting style is open enough that it allows you to play your way. It would be cool if there were more skills so that you could set up some cool combos. They made it in a way tho that I'd imagine they have plans for more skills later on.

Edit: for example I bet if you asked people how they would fight 3 naked guys just about everyone would have a different way of doing it.

[inademv]

The idea of an open PvP Game is awesome, but not created in a good way yet.

There is no funny and espacially realistic way of fighting.

1)Your equipment does not have any sense. You wear Banded or maybe Scale? Whatever, you see 2-3 naked guys, who kill you very easily. Same with weapons.

SO: Give armors a sense. Make it possible that a 2-3 naked guys NEVER Ever got a chance against an equiped one.
This would undermine one of the core concepts of the game that new players are not 100% boned by players with gear. This is a skill and team based game, if you cannot win against naked people then they are better than you.

2)The fightingstyle is terrible. No nice attackmoves, no nice spells at the beginning, no sensefull fightmovement.
Where is the fun if your opponent always running circles aruond you like a lightning? Thats not realistic or funny. Its impossible to attack him with spells or arrows. The movement is crap rightnow. So please do not crash the whole potencial of open PvP and start get good ideas of make it better.
I don't even understand what you're trying to say here. It appears that your complaint is that sprinting in melee combat is too viable against most opponents but you worded it in a very stupid way.

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[Xandar464]

Why do people insist on turning this game into another WoW / Daoc / insert random mmo every bloody time... ?

[Henide]

I know how to deal with those idiotic circle sprinters; just keep it calm, hold your block when he hits (probably with pole). He will run out of stamina quite fast. That is of course 1v1 fight.

And naked guys are tough becouse of passive skills such as Rigor and Defense, game's fighting style could use some tweaks tho, but lets leave it to the Devs.

[dinendal]

They should have called he game "Benny Hill'fall"

It's so stupid sometimes that it's not even funny.

[gorfhag]

The idea of an open PvP Game is awesome, but not created in a good way yet.

There is no funny and espacially realistic way of fighting.

1)Your equipment does not have any sense. You wear Banded or maybe Scale? Whatever, you see 2-3 naked guys, who kill you very easily. Same with weapons.

SO: Give armors a sense. Make it possible that a 2-3 naked guys NEVER Ever got a chance against an equiped one.

2)The fightingstyle is terrible. No nice attackmoves, no nice spells at the beginning, no sensefull fightmovement.
Where is the fun if your opponent always running circles aruond you like a lightning? Thats not realistic or funny. Its impossible to attack him with spells or arrows. The movement is crap rightnow. So please do not crash the whole potencial of open PvP and start get good ideas of make it better.I agree with point number 1. Definately! Those naked players without balls to fight equiped are profiting from this situation. They should be killed in two meele swings of your 2h r40 sword or whatever.

Why should I risk to fight naked ppl whan Im armoured? You never know how many of them will jump on you before you manage to finish them. They are risking nothing except of short run from their bindstone location. You are taking at risk all your gear for nothing. This is just pointless...

Make those naked loosers useless. Newbie weapon useless in pvp agains any armour and force those ppl to use some weapons at least...

[Drekor]

I agree with point number 1. Definately! Those naked players without balls to fight equiped are profiting from this situation. They should be killed in two meele swings of your 2h r40 sword or whatever.

Why should I risk to fight naked ppl whan Im armoured? You never know how many of them will jump on you before you manage to finish them. They are risking nothing except of short run from their bindstone location. You are taking at risk all your gear for nothing. This is just pointless...

Make those naked loosers useless. Newbie weapon useless in pvp agains any armour and force those ppl to use some weapons at least...

The only reason you wouldn't want to risk the fight is if you were standing right outside a noob town where they spawn... Perhaps the problem here isn't the system but the fact you are killing noobs that don't even have equipment to begin with?

[keeperofstars]

The only reason you wouldn't want to risk the fight is if you were standing right outside a noob town where they spawn... Perhaps the problem here isn't the system but the fact you are killing noobs that don't even have equipment to begin with?

No the problem is he is pissed he was jumpped while fighting, and lost to 3 guys vs 1.

Cause his armor should have magically saved him.

Naked players are so easy to kill. It is not even a challenge if you have gear on.

Hell a set of chain is enough to remove about 40% of the damage from newbie weapons.

I put on my full enchanted plate set, and can take 5 people hitting with newbie weapons till they are all out of stam without me blocking before they do any real damage to me.

Not to mention I hit them for about 35 damage a swing with my daggers, which hit fast as hell.

Problem is people wear 2 pieces of armor an r20 weapon, (even though they dont have 20 skill yet and the weapon has deminished damage) and then bitch when jumped.

Hell a naked player vs my MM usually dead in about 5 casts. Well before the get to me.

[ikhoefnix]

if you are wearing scale and get ganked by 2 naked guys, you FAIL! FAIL FAIL FAIL!

[Calligan]

I put on my full enchanted plate set, and can take 5 people hitting with newbie weapons till they are all out of stam without me blocking before they do any real damage to me.

Not to mention I hit them for about 35 damage a swing with my daggers, which hit fast as hell.

Problem is people wear 2 pieces of armor an r20 weapon, (even though they dont have 20 skill yet and the weapon has deminished damage) and then bitch when jumped.

Hell a naked player vs my MM usually dead in about 5 casts. Well before the get to me. my bs detector spotted something in this quote , try to guess what.

And you riding a unicorn right , which is a secret flying mount ?

[Goblin Scout]

They should have called he game "Benny Hill'fall"

It's so stupid sometimes that it's not even funny.

BUT it has nekkids! benny hill only had partial nekkids!

[inademv]

my bs detector spotted something in this quote , try to guess what.

And you riding a unicorn right , which is a secret flying mount ?

Full plate + maxed rigor + maxed ignore pain + enchantments = ~14-15 points of damage reduction

With that people without mastery or ranked weapons will hit you for 1 a swing.

[nacitar]

... Its impossible to attack him with spells or arrows ...

I thought that until some elf in dwarf land one day raped my balls with arrows from 2 inches away. Practice makes perfect.

[cinderblock]

I think the point is not that he doesnt know how to fight, and yes I agree that a geared player does indeed have a very fair advantage over 2-4 nakeds, however, it just feels silly having to run away from naked gank parties because you want to run around geared. I would gladly fight outnumbered against geared players because at least they have something to lose like me, however if they are naked I may as well run for the off chance that I will suck and lose, lag and lose or get ambushed by more and lose...basically there is no reason for me to even bother fighting them, I may as well always run from naked people if I am smart.

I dont have a solution/suggestion, but I do feel a slight backwardness of being more afraid of a naked player than a geared one.

[Bainwalker]

Full plate + maxed rigor + maxed ignore pain + enchantments = ~14-15 points of damage reduction

With that people without mastery or ranked weapons will hit you for 1 a swing.

so you admit to exploiting your stats, good on you.

[inademv]

so you admit to exploiting your stats, good on you.

Stating a fact based on numbers. Way to jump to conclusions.

[ganjaman]

its all about tactics, try differnt things becuse no one fights the same anyway .. there's plenty of time for practice ..

[sodapop]

Full plate + maxed rigor + maxed ignore pain + enchantments = ~14-15 points of damage reduction

With that people without mastery or ranked weapons will hit you for 1 a swing.

how about a mana missile? will it hit for 1 as well?

[GRCPan]

The idea of an open PvP Game is awesome, but not created in a good way yet.

There is no funny and espacially realistic way of fighting.

1)Your equipment does not have any sense. You wear Banded or maybe Scale? Whatever, you see 2-3 naked guys, who kill you very easily. Same with weapons.

SO: Give armors a sense. Make it possible that a 2-3 naked guys NEVER Ever got a chance against an equiped one.

2)The fightingstyle is terrible. No nice attackmoves, no nice spells at the beginning, no sensefull fightmovement.
Where is the fun if your opponent always running circles aruond you like a lightning? Thats not realistic or funny. Its impossible to attack him with spells or arrows. The movement is crap rightnow. So please do not crash the whole potencial of open PvP and start get good ideas of make it better.

1) No gear shouldnt make that much of a difference.
You mention realism, an armored guy can easily get killed by 1 naked guy IRL, armor IRL worked well in groups. On 1 on 1 though it didnt work well because you couldnt move as fast as someone that is not using armor.
2) Yes combat can become better. But its still fun. Also the guys running in circles around you are the easiest targets to kill.

[Aleanath]

somethign should be done about people just running around in circles - its REALLY annoying. Im not saying people should just stand still but atm it sucks ass

[Najare]

somethign should be done about people just running around in circles - its REALLY annoying. Im not saying people should just stand still but atm it sucks ass

Wait, Wait, Hit or BLOCK, thats it. He is wasting his stam, you know.

[Blaster]

I do kill 2-3 naked guys while I am using armor and every skilled person should do the same. Maybe this game is not for you, sir.

[shameless]

The idea of an open PvP Game is awesome, but not created in a good way yet.

There is no funny and espacially realistic way of fighting.

1)Your equipment does not have any sense. You wear Banded or maybe Scale? Whatever, you see 2-3 naked guys, who kill you very easily. Same with weapons.
SO: Give armors a sense. Make it possible that a 2-3 naked guys NEVER Ever got a chance against an equipped one.

Yea lets make it where if you loose your armor you will have no chance in a fight. Good thinking dumb ass.

2)The fighting style is terrible. No nice attack moves, no nice spells at the beginning, no sense full fight movement.
Where is the fun if your opponent always running circles around you like a lightning? Thats not realistic or funny. Its impossible to attack him with spells or arrows. The movement is crap right now. So please do not crash the whole potential of open PvP and start get good ideas of make it better.

So you want for pvp to be like a stand still duel? LOL psst ranged attacks are supposed to be not as good in mêlée range.

[Emrys]

I agree that there should be a naked penalty but we have to make sure that other armors such as leather, studded, chain, and padded are viable to people who choose to wear it for stealth purposes.

Yes plate should give more protection than say leather BUT there needs to be a REASON for someone to bother with the leather other than being able to blend in the night...maybe increase the stamina usage of people in plate or the archery and magic penalty....because lately i just find myself rolling out in full plate since the only magic i use is mana to stam and stam to health if i am getting focus fired.

So while naked should be easy to kill, we have to make sure other armor is viable and desirable...

[Tyrantv]

You suck. I got jumped by 2 naked dwarfs while mining and had half a stamina bar... 2 dwarfs dead.... got a nice mount and lots of ore too :D

[VidsPlease]

This is NOT true, really. Don't you get it yet? You could easily take down 3 naked guys if you know what you were doing.

1: Start shooting arrows at your first target (he should be dead before he reaches you)

2: The two other guys would't be any problem, avoid and block attacks and take them down slowly.

This is so easy if you have skills.... :ninja:

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