View Full Version : Is sieging fun?
In Nox
03-25-2009, 04:00 AM
Well, is it?
Revant54
03-25-2009, 04:05 AM
Yes. Very.
no.
Unless you like pings of 16000+
Red Morgan
03-25-2009, 06:26 AM
The first siege I was in was the worst PvP experience of my life. Killing a naked zerg rush for 6 hours is not my idea of fun.
In Nox
03-25-2009, 06:28 AM
The first siege I was in was the worst PvP experience of my life. Killing a naked zerg rush for 6 hours is not my idea of fun.
This is what I have heard although I haven't experienced it firsthand yet.
PocketChange
03-25-2009, 07:15 AM
no. and thats both the short and long answer.
Zerby
03-25-2009, 08:46 AM
Might be, if they were playable regarding FPS and ping.
Thyometha
03-25-2009, 08:48 AM
They're plenty playable regarding FPS and ping. Lower your settings, run a smaller resolution. These things really help.
NoirFluo
03-25-2009, 08:59 AM
we had a full stuff vs full stuff fight and it was VERY VERY fun
and we won so that s way more fun ^^
emiglio
03-25-2009, 09:15 AM
I think you're all f****d in the head. We're ten hours from the f***ing clan city and you want to bail out. Well I'll tell you something. This is no longer a siege. It's a quest. It's a quest for fun. I'm gonna have fun and you're gonna have fun. We're all gonna have so much fucking fun we'll need plastic surgery to remove our godamn smiles. You'll be whistling 'Zip-A-Dee Doo-Dah' out of you're a**holes! I gotta be crazy! I'm on a pilgrimage to see a douche. Praise Tasos Flambouras! Holy S**t!
This about sums up how much fun Sieges are. Fucking Badass!
Check out these screenshots
http://hellsheat.com/board/download/file.php?id=411&mode=view
http://hellsheat.com/board/download/file.php?id=409&mode=view
McDoogs
03-25-2009, 09:22 AM
yes
Clairvoyant
03-25-2009, 10:01 AM
I think you're all f****d in the head. We're ten hours from the f***ing clan city and you want to bail out. Well I'll tell you something. This is no longer a siege. It's a quest. It's a quest for fun. I'm gonna have fun and you're gonna have fun. We're all gonna have so much fucking fun we'll need plastic surgery to remove our godamn smiles. You'll be whistling 'Zip-A-Dee Doo-Dah' out of you're a**holes! I gotta be crazy! I'm on a pilgrimage to see a douche. Praise Tasos Flambouras! Holy S**t!
This about sums up how much fun Sieges are. Fucking Badass!
Check out these screenshots
http://hellsheat.com/board/download/file.php?id=411&mode=view
http://hellsheat.com/board/download/file.php?id=409&mode=view
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Temko Firewing
03-25-2009, 10:05 AM
Depends.
1 - ZERG Vs. ZERG is no fun (like LoD siege was more a discon madness then combat. the the combat was mostly Vs and As neked zergs after the initial death... then again that cannon was BAD ASS.
2 - Last nights Yew city Siege was awsome. playable FPS, allies and enemies flowing, regrouping, taking and attacking, with a last desperate attempt on it as well near the end.. awsome to the end.
Froxer
03-25-2009, 10:11 AM
How is the Sieging really.. is it the engines fault or what is the real problem? I dont want to come into a new AoC with unplayale sieging.
adrazzer
03-25-2009, 10:14 AM
Depends.
1 - ZERG Vs. ZERG is no fun (like LoD siege was more a discon madness then combat. the the combat was mostly Vs and As neked zergs after the initial death... then again that cannon was BAD ASS.
2 - Last nights Yew city Siege was awsome. playable FPS, allies and enemies flowing, regrouping, taking and attacking, with a last desperate attempt on it as well near the end.. awsome to the end.
yes it was awesome ;) fps is fine as long as you turn the sound settings down, it runs very smooth.
Brenocosta
03-25-2009, 10:31 AM
Sieges are fun, but only if there are few ppl sieging and defending.
200-300 or + players in battle= 1 FPS. This is not fun, really.
EastWizard
03-25-2009, 11:19 AM
I can get over 300+ people with decent FPS. Too bad the servers can't handle it. Or it'd be the best fun I'd ever have.
Atnas
03-25-2009, 11:23 AM
In the beginning with the big fights and shit. Then it just becomes dull, and a lot of waiting.
xenom
03-25-2009, 12:02 PM
most fun i have had in a long time in a game.
Zerby
03-25-2009, 12:02 PM
They're plenty playable regarding FPS and ping. Lower your settings, run a smaller resolution. These things really help.
AMD X2 4200+@2.65ghz
3GB RAM
HD4850
Fresh install of Windows XP, latest updates, latest drivers
Everything low, resolution 800x600
1 FPS.
EDIT: I heard that lowering the amount of 3D sounds help, but I haven't got the chance to test that yet. Hopefully, it will help.
chimp
03-25-2009, 12:28 PM
EDIT: I heard that lowering the amount of 3D sounds help, but I haven't got the chance to test that yet. Hopefully, it will help.
Heh, thats like the ONLY fucking setting you need to be turning down tbh.
Temko Firewing
03-25-2009, 12:31 PM
Heh, thats like the ONLY fucking setting you need to be turning down tbh.
sound off = good gameplay (in options i mean)
i turned down sounds, and turned of shadows and i had 40-50 FPS with over 100 people on screen.
edit: i still sucked ... a litle, (THANKS FOR THE LOOT TEMPEST/HARM)
BigCountry
03-25-2009, 03:20 PM
When armies of zergs siege it is not fun.....it's just not technically possible...but yet developers and gamers alike, spin it like it is....
I see these political maps floating around with these MASSIVE alliances and armies....then watch all these people post about how they LAG OUT when fights occur.....
Well DOH.....complete idiots....you made the bed so lie it in.
:lmao:
Simulating epic scale combat in a mmorpg is not possible yet...read the manual and grow a pair - win or lose GvG.....don't zerg...
Synaptic
03-25-2009, 03:36 PM
If you like to fight early in the morning, then yeah, I guess sieging is fun.
satanski
03-25-2009, 03:43 PM
Well, is it?
I dont really like its rules. I think it should go like this:
- someone declaring siege
- defenders has 6 hours to set siege date and time (maybe date and time should be a compromise between attackers and defenders proposals)
- siege starts, gates are closing but can be opened at will by defenders, and destroyed by attackers). City is vulnerable.
- for a set time (personally i think 2h is enough) city is being contested
- anybody who dies in proxymity of sieged city is BANNED from reentrance siege area, and cannot attack participants in any way. People bound to city stone respawns elsewhere.
- clanstone destroyed - attacker wins
- end of story
I was participating in one siege as defender. First part when we was actually attacking enemies in their hamlet was completely boring. People was running around, respawning, coming back etc. It lasted like 1-2h and had not visible outcome. Second part - defending the city - lasted for me about 5 mins since i had like 0.3 fps and looged out. I wont participate in any more sieges, regardles of being attacker or defender and my fps, until devs implement thing such fundamental as closing gates.
sk8er754
03-26-2009, 11:38 AM
Yeah sieging is pretty fun sometimes. I played in a mini siege with about 100people and had fps of about 15 but i still managed to land 80% of my arrows.
processor is fairly low but just turn down the settings and its alright unless it gets to 200-300+
Strontyd
03-26-2009, 01:30 PM
would be if the lag didnt make it unplayable once you get large forces fighting.
Was in one last night and soon as the fighting started it became unplayable and that was with all my graphics settings turned right down, and my pc is def not slow.
My average ping when playing the game is around 50, was going up to 700+ once the fight started.
optimisation needed.
Ababoba
03-26-2009, 01:33 PM
It's not fun really due to lag. My computer is almost brand new and I have ~5 fps, people with older machines have it completely unplayable and some disconnect. Lagfree battles are just another lie told by AV.
It's not fun really due to lag. My computer is almost brand new and I have ~5 fps, people with older machines have it completely unplayable and some disconnect. Lagfree battles are just another lie told by AV.
did you try to lower your 3D sounds?
dinendal
03-26-2009, 01:58 PM
It's no fun.
You have 2 choices:
1) Spam arrows/mana missile on allies and foes since you can't distinguish them.
2) Wait and loot the bodies.
Forget sound.
Use your weapon on everything which move near your area.
If you're winning : target naked doodz.
If you're loosing : target geared ones.
Sabbathius
03-26-2009, 03:32 PM
They're plenty playable regarding FPS and ping. Lower your settings, run a smaller resolution. These things really help.
You haven't been to big sieges yet. I normally run at 16x12, mostly high, with player shadows. This is plenty for small group PvP. When a big siege is going on, I switch everything to lowest or off, enable clipping and animation quality reduction, turn shadows off, postprocessing off, etc. I set my resolution down to 640x480, something I haven't done since '99, and it STILL becomes a slideshow.
Izure
03-26-2009, 03:39 PM
I think you're all f****d in the head. We're ten hours from the f***ing clan city and you want to bail out. Well I'll tell you something. This is no longer a siege. It's a quest. It's a quest for fun. I'm gonna have fun and you're gonna have fun. We're all gonna have so much fucking fun we'll need plastic surgery to remove our godamn smiles. You'll be whistling 'Zip-A-Dee Doo-Dah' out of you're a**holes! I gotta be crazy! I'm on a pilgrimage to see a douche. Praise Tasos Flambouras! Holy S**t!
This about sums up how much fun Sieges are. Fucking Badass!
Check out these screenshots
http://hellsheat.com/board/download/file.php?id=411&mode=view
http://hellsheat.com/board/download/file.php?id=409&mode=view
national lampoon VOCATION
orince
03-26-2009, 05:03 PM
boring as hell...
nazgo
03-26-2009, 09:05 PM
lag as hell, and zerg wins.. waiting for mortal
Huggmuth
03-26-2009, 11:16 PM
Seriously, sieging is really fun.. belive me
Jathen
03-27-2009, 12:14 AM
It's no fun.
You have 2 choices:
1) Spam arrows/mana missile on allies and foes since you can't distinguish them.
2) Wait and loot the bodies.
Lol true. Usually I can find any enemy after about 2 minutes of trying to get my shit pointed at someone. Then its just a matter of trying to shoot them as they warp around the screen.
Kidz Range
03-27-2009, 12:19 AM
When armies of zergs siege it is not fun.....it's just not technically possible...but yet developers and gamers alike, spin it like it is....
I see these political maps floating around with these MASSIVE alliances and armies....then watch all these people post about how they LAG OUT when fights occur.....
Well DOH.....complete idiots....you made the bed so lie it in.
:lmao:
Simulating epic scale combat in a mmorpg is not possible yet...read the manual and grow a pair - win or lose GvG.....don't zerg...
nice sig pic, take the copywritten symbol huh?
i got the exact same snake symbol on my damn mouse i just bought...the DeathAdder.....
Tiarilir
03-27-2009, 12:23 AM
No.
Atnas
03-27-2009, 02:30 AM
I wish I could project the frustration I feel straight into your soul.
Imagine... fighting with 5fps, with people warping around you, MMs stuck in the air and since you have 3D sounds turned down, all sound effects happen just behind you. At the same time. At the same volume. Constantly.
It is as if someone is waging a war behind you, and each time you turn around to look what's going on they move.
Then you can add the 4 hour wait, the constant naked bindstone rushing defenders and constant crashes that often leaves you in the hands of the enemy.
Sieging does in fact suck major balls.
Edit: I think I'll add that it also costs shitloads of resources, and if you are getting attacked, expect it to be at a very inconvient time so that the small force you can muster can't do shit about it.
ewlinitis
03-27-2009, 02:57 AM
sound off = good gameplay (in options i mean)
i turned down sounds, and turned of shadows and i had 40-50 FPS with over 100 people on screen.
edit: i still sucked ... a litle, (THANKS FOR THE LOOT TEMPEST/HARM)
90% percent of them are noobs. They recruit random ppl. rofl.
Spunge
03-27-2009, 05:06 AM
I spent about 2 hours trying to get a mount and get to this city. When i finally got their my fps went down to 1-2 fps. Lost mount, died, back at bindstone miles away.
Thats my only experience.
ColonelTEE3
03-27-2009, 07:20 AM
Might be, if they were playable regarding FPS and ping.
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sk8er754
03-27-2009, 08:26 AM
City got taken over in less than 13minutes with siege hammers last nite lol. Most the action is the post 4hours from the actual siege.
Ramee
03-27-2009, 05:51 PM
Thank the GM's for assisting the victors in the siege.
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