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Tamu
03-25-2009, 03:13 AM
So when you finally get 100 archery, is there anything else to it?

like new archery attacks or advanced archery?

Jungle345
03-25-2009, 03:20 AM
when you get to 100 you get a new super move that you can use once. after you use it you will drop back down to 99. or so i understand.

Eiseth
03-25-2009, 03:21 AM
I'm guessing you can use the best possible bows in the game without them getting destroyed faster? x) Nothing other than that though *Shrugs*

Slitt
03-25-2009, 03:22 AM
ive seen other archery skills linked in game...sharpshooter, master archery, i believe. I have only my memory tho as verification.

Tamu
03-25-2009, 03:23 AM
when you get to 100 you get a new super move that you can use once. after you use it you will drop back down to 99. or so i understand.

Wow.. lets hope you dont miss that 1 shot! :D

AdmiralChaos
03-25-2009, 03:24 AM
ive seen other archery skills linked in game...sharpshooter, master archery, i believe. I have only my memory tho as verification.
there are 3 passives: increased damage, increased firing speed, increased reload speed. i don't know their names, but it doesn't matter.

Tamu
03-25-2009, 03:25 AM
there are 3 passives: increased damage, increased firing speed, increased reload speed. i don't know their names, but it doesn't matter.

just ones you can buy for 500 gp right?

disillusioned
03-25-2009, 04:08 AM
when you get to 100 you get a new super move that you can use once. after you use it you will drop back down to 99. or so i understand.

Only with spells and possibly usable skills like knockback.

Not skills like polearm or archery or mining or whatever.

SwordShadow
03-25-2009, 10:18 AM
You get Veteran Archery at 50 archery and you get SharpShooter at 75 Archery as well as Spirited archer but that dont skill up.

SO once you get 100 Archry you need finish getting Veteran Archery and SharpShooter to 100 as well. Seems like sharpshooter at 25 gave me 1-3 more points of dmg per shot to minimum but havnt tested extensively.

Seen no differnce at all in nock speed with Spirited Archer tho =/

HauptmannHP
03-25-2009, 10:19 AM
Thread moved.

SuperMawe
03-25-2009, 11:50 AM
So when you finally get 100 archery, is there anything else to it?

like new archery attacks or advanced archery?

after u get 100 archery you're qualified to get a RL :lmao:

manpro20
03-27-2009, 12:53 PM
You get Veteran Archery at 50 archery and you get SharpShooter at 75 Archery as well as Spirited archer but that dont skill up.

SO once you get 100 Archry you need finish getting Veteran Archery and SharpShooter to 100 as well. Seems like sharpshooter at 25 gave me 1-3 more points of dmg per shot to minimum but havnt tested extensively.

Seen no differnce at all in nock speed with Spirited Archer tho =/

where can we find the sharpshooter and veteran archery skills? are these skills provided at the 3-4 starter race npc cities?

Haeso
03-27-2009, 01:04 PM
Spirited archer doesn't skill up or do anything, veteran archer is amazing and Sharpshooter is pretty nice.

I'm quite certain 100 archery does nothing, only at 92 myself but I've been 75+ for well over a week. Stopped grinding archery since spirited archer isn't skilling up it'd be a waste.

Karter
03-27-2009, 01:56 PM
where can we find the sharpshooter and veteran archery skills? are these skills provided at the 3-4 starter race npc cities?

Capitol Cities for sure

Zunk[SUN]
03-27-2009, 02:20 PM
when you get to 100 you get a new super move that you can use once. after you use it you will drop back down to 99. or so i understand.

isnt that for spells nly

Storm_Lord
03-27-2009, 02:26 PM
Wow! How many arrows have you gone through to get 100 archery skill?

Jas-demi
03-27-2009, 04:39 PM
wow! How many arrows have you gone through to get 100 archery skill?
over 9000!!!

Blaster
03-27-2009, 04:53 PM
over 9000!!!

9k is like going from 60-75 I would say, and less if you are shooting a person/mob and not a wall.

Lictor
03-27-2009, 05:03 PM
Stopped grinding archery since spirited archer isn't skilling up it'd be a waste.

They will fix that eventually...

;3133379']isnt that for spells nly

Yes.

9k is like going from 60-75 I would say, and less if you are shooting a person/mob and not a wall.

It was said many times, that atm the archery levels up the same with shooting to air as when shooting to mobs/players.

MonopolistJasek
03-27-2009, 05:04 PM
9k is like going from 60-75 I would say, and less if you are shooting a person/mob and not a wall.

I can confirm this, but 9k should take you from 1.0 to about 72ish
Yeah from 1.0 to 90.0 was ~15k
thats taking shots at mobs/gankers like you are playing CS on crack and teaching your wife how to kill goblins/salamanders. dunno if it would be faster to macro but from what i understand its the same speed if you hit or dont. so easily more time/cost effecient than most magery so far. now im just farming another 8k or so arrows and im gonna wait for them to actually activate spirited archer before i waste those on gains.

Døkkálfar
03-27-2009, 05:31 PM
Here's what i've found out by testing it myself. Skill gain for archery at skill level 72.1 I was getting about .1 gain every 55-70 arrows shot into a mob all hits. When I tested just shooting into the air I shot off around 70 arrows and no skill gain then took another 30 hits on a mob to get .1 again. So with a little bit of rough estimation and some data I collected seems to me that skill gain is twice as fast hitting something than not.

I assume that most people say the skill gain is the same since they are in lower levels and the difference is so marginal you don't notice but later this evening when I ran this test again at archery 80+ I found the same results skill gain was much higher hitting a mob than shooting into the air.

Have yet to test these results on hitting players or destructible buildings, but I figure I would find the results are the same if not similar.

vitruvius
03-27-2009, 05:54 PM
after u get 100 archery you're qualified to get a RL :lmao:

Many people just macro archery and shoot off thousands of arrows into nothing.

mercnet
03-27-2009, 06:03 PM
there are 3 passives: increased damage, increased firing speed, increased reload speed. i don't know their names, but it doesn't matter.

Wrong... 50 skill = Veteran Archer which is Lower stm cost. 75 is Sharpshooter which is increased damage. Also at 75 you get Spirited Archer which is decreased nocking time.

Lifeless
03-27-2009, 06:49 PM
Wow.. lets hope you dont miss that 1 shot! :D

instant kill shot

idk i wouldnt mind that at all :)

shansiro
03-27-2009, 06:54 PM
Many people just macro archery and shoot off thousands of arrows into nothing.

those ppl drop usually a good 1000 arrows :D

Dalusia
03-28-2009, 04:42 AM
15k arrows from 1-90 is really not that much...3-4 days of hardcore grinding mobs or lumberjacking/mining.

15k regs is like 1/2 point in elemental:bang::bang::bang::bang::bang:: bang::bang::bang:

Drekor
03-28-2009, 08:29 AM
15k arrows from 1-90 is really not that much...3-4 days of hardcore grinding mobs or lumberjacking/mining.

15k regs is like 1/2 point in elemental:bang::bang::bang::bang::bang:: bang::bang::bang:
A bad comparison... just because magic is horrible doesn't mean everything else should be :p

Although the archery skill itself is largely irrelevant, it's the 3 passive skills that are good.

Hawkinz
03-28-2009, 01:34 PM
Capitol Cities for sure

Yes, you can buy the skills in the Capital cities.
capitol refers to a specific building

Spirited archer doesn't skill up or do anything...
They will fix that eventually...
Apparently fixed, not confirmed.

It was said many times, that atm the archery levels up the same with shooting to air as when shooting to mobs/players.
I saw a post, saying that this has changed. I've got no idea. Maybe someone can test it.

Krush
03-31-2009, 11:23 PM
there are 3 passives: increased damage, increased firing speed, increased reload speed. i don't know their names, but it doesn't matter.
Sharpshooter (http://darkfallinfo.com/wiki/index.php?title=Sharpshooter), Spirited Archer (http://darkfallinfo.com/wiki/index.php?title=Spirited_Archer), Veteran Archer (http://darkfallinfo.com/wiki/index.php?title=Veteran_Archer)

salaam
04-01-2009, 11:26 AM
Many people just macro archery and shoot off thousands of arrows into nothing.

so do mages too. archers just make it a lot cheaper..

Coneitic
04-02-2009, 05:30 PM
dont listen to that guy who says 15k arrows to get to 90, thats a load of shit.

im 80 right now and used well over that after 50.

shansiro
04-02-2009, 05:35 PM
dont listen to that guy who says 15k arrows to get to 90, thats a load of shit.

im 80 right now and used well over that after 50.

dont listen to that guy who fired all his arrows at a corner ..

you can lvl your archery skills really fast and easy if you hit targets

END OF IT

Coneitic
04-02-2009, 05:44 PM
dont listen to that guy who fired all his arrows at a corner ..

you can lvl your archery skills really fast and easy if you hit targets

END OF IT

and im sure your around 50 archery atm.

around 75-80 its taking between 800-1k arrows per skill point.

Fall
04-02-2009, 05:46 PM
dont listen to that guy who fired all his arrows at a corner ..

you can lvl your archery skills really fast and easy if you hit targets

END OF IT

QFT

I made some research for me at lower levels, 400 arrows in the air, 400 on a mob.

You get more skillgain if you actually hit something.

Aristona
04-02-2009, 06:06 PM
I've used about 30000 arrows so far, i'm at 88 and i'm guessing i'll be using another 15-20K to get to 100.

I created all the arrows myself except for the ones i got of pvp which should be around 2K and my bowyer's at 66 right now, solely of crafting arrows.

sirgarycoleman
04-02-2009, 08:39 PM
When I tested just shooting into the air I shot off around 70 arrows and no skill gain then took another 30 hits on a mob to get .1 again. So with a little bit of rough estimation and some data I collected seems to me that skill gain is twice as fast hitting something than not.

That is somewhat of a flawed test. For all we know, another 30 hits into the air would have also given you that .1

You can' t really test until RIGHT after you have gained .1
Then you should shoot arrows into the sky until you get another .1 - see how many arrows that took.
Then shoot arrows only at a target - see how many arrows that took.

Has anyone done a test like this? If so, what were the results?

kheled
04-03-2009, 02:27 PM
You can simply link the skills in chat and see them down to the thousandths place. Shoot one and hit a person, check again. Shoot one into the air, check again. Compare the differences.

salaam
04-06-2009, 08:32 AM
Missed my 1 million dollar shot ^^; SO fun!

zhandao
04-06-2009, 08:34 AM
You can simply link the skills in chat and see them down to the thousandths place. Shoot one and hit a person, check again. Shoot one into the air, check again. Compare the differences.

I don't think it updates until every increase in 0.1 (rounded of course). At least that's the case for Swim, Sprint, and Run.

Junkaboy
04-06-2009, 01:50 PM
15k arrows from 1-90 is really not that much...3-4 days of hardcore grinding mobs or lumberjacking/mining.

15k regs is like 1/2 point in elemental:bang::bang::bang::bang::bang:: bang::bang::bang:

15k arrows is way off... I'd say its closer to triple that number to get from 1 to 90. And sure it will take more then 3 days grinding.

Storm_Lord
04-07-2009, 03:18 PM
I just started working on Archery. So far I have shot 5k arrows and almost all of them on mobs. Figure in a small percentage of misses, but I am at 47 now. I will post a update again around 7500 and again at 10k.

Elphaba
04-07-2009, 03:23 PM
Hitting something raises the skill much faster than hitting nothing.

I am almost at 50 and have not used anywhere near the number of arrows people are claiming to have used, on this thread.

bigdaddy543
04-07-2009, 03:38 PM
So are there special attacks like that for every skill?

Charlotte
04-07-2009, 03:44 PM
So are there special attacks like that for every skill?

Not special attacks but sideskills which improve certain aspects of the skill itself.

Storm_Lord
04-07-2009, 05:38 PM
Hitting something raises the skill much faster than hitting nothing.

I am almost at 50 and have not used anywhere near the number of arrows people are claiming to have used, on this thread.


How many is anywhere near? Give specifics or whats the point. I am at level 47 skill after 5000 arrows on mobs.

gmornin
04-08-2009, 12:19 AM
So much misinformation. It does take approx 5k arrows to get to 50 then you hit a wall and your gains SLOW down @ 50 -75..If I had to guess prob 15-18k total arrows to get to 75 and then the real crawl begins.

EVERYONE should spam or fight mobs to 50 skill to have it as a backup. Its too easy not too..its after that that only dedicated archers will want to tread..and as a bonus you get the best of the archer skills. the stam use reduction

At 75 you at least now you have all 3 skills and can level it at leisure. Veteran archer is very nice ( stam use reduction )..Sharpshooter is nice and Spirited archer ...I see nothing from that if its a passive buff it sure is mighty passive or its broken and is an active skilling deal and doesnt skill.

I see no differance in mob vs air firing... I think ppl just lose track of time and arrows when PvE'ing and think its faster =)

Junkaboy
04-08-2009, 01:51 PM
So much misinformation. It does take approx 5k arrows to get to 50 then you hit a wall and your gains SLOW down @ 50 -75..If I had to guess prob 15-18k total arrows to get to 75 and then the real crawl begins.

This is a whole lot more accurate then the previous 9k arrows count...


(...) and Spirited archer ...I see nothing from that if its a passive buff it sure is mighty passive or its broken and is an active skilling deal and doesnt skill.

I am well over 50 on spirited and I couldn't notice any change at all... So either the effects are well hidden or its simply broken. I assume the skill is broken...


I see no differance in mob vs air firing... I think ppl just lose track of time and arrows when PvE'ing and think its faster =)

I never used a single arrow macroing archery on a wall or anything like it... so I cant confirm on this.

Elphaba
04-08-2009, 01:56 PM
How many is anywhere near? Give specifics or whats the point. I am at level 47 skill after 5000 arrows on mobs.

I am at about 45, used about 2500 to 3000 arrows on mobs.

Varcin
04-10-2009, 11:51 PM
over 50 spirited archer and it definately works

I couldn't really tell for myself but my guildies shooting arrows next to me say I'm shooting vastly faster than everyone else.