The best way to maintian health / stamine in a battle

[Heindrik]

I was wondering how much food/Potions, And when to use them is the most optimal when your fighting someone.


Anyone trained and experiemented with this and can give a hint?.

Regards

Heindrik

[psycho91]

You need mana to stamina in the lesser magic tree. its pretty much essential.

[vitruvius]

Problem is that most people start using potions/food when they get low. You should be using them as soon as you start losing hp/stam in order to keep it as high as possible for as long as possible. Same with mana to stamina spell, you don't want to wait till you're at 25% then run away casting and chugging potions. Do it while you fight and you win!

[steinhandir]

Im curious tho, what pots and foods are ppl using?

You sticking to moderate pots ? (is what im using, i recon the better ones are too expensive to waste?)

As for foods i generally use anything i got..

[Asolar]

I belive food buff always give the same bonus, but the duration is better on some food.

Use food just before you enter the fight, and a pod ones your near 80%. Mana to stam is a must to ofcause.

Now if its big fights then running to your defendsive lines and use the conversion spells(all 3) is a very fast way to get full again. No rest for the wicked

[Viluin]

Pff, mana to stamina is overrated. If a small fight between 2-10 players isn't finished by the time you run out of stamina that's just pure fail.

[Atnas]

Pff, mana to stamina is overrated. If a small fight between 2-10 players isn't finished by the time you run out of stamina that's just pure fail.

Mana to stamina is king, and you have no idea what you are talking about.

Edit: Maybe I should explain a bit more instead of just dismissing your sort of shortsighted statement!

You are quite right in that you can kill people without losing all of your stamina, but the thing is that it limits you. Without mana to stamina you wont be as willing to sprint, dodge, chase or do any other thing you'd need stamina to do (like sprinting, jumping, turning around in the air to fire a mana missile/arrow). Mana to stamina gives you a lot of extra stamina at the cost of your mana, which is basically a pool you never, ever use in combat.

It also gives back a lot of stamina- in a full set of banded and with the skill at 3, I regain about 18 stamina (3 ticks) for the cost of 20ish mana (never bothered to check for sure). 16 stamina is a shitload and be used for lots of things.

Shooting with a bow, for example, while sprinting is an enormous stamina drain for example.

[Viluin]

Mana to stamina is king, and you have no idea what you are talking about.

Edit: Maybe I should explain a bit more instead of just dismissing your sort of shortsighted statement!

You are quite right in that you can kill people without losing all of your stamina, but the thing is that it limits you. Without mana to stamina you wont be as willing to sprint, dodge, chase or do any other thing you'd need stamina to do (like sprinting, jumping, turning around in the air to fire a mana missile/arrow). Mana to stamina gives you a lot of extra stamina at the cost of your mana, which is basically a pool you never, ever use in combat.

It also gives back a lot of stamina- in a full set of banded and with the skill at 3, I regain about 18 stamina (3 ticks) for the cost of 20ish mana (never bothered to check for sure). 16 stamina is a shitload and be used for lots of things.

Shooting with a bow, for example, while sprinting is an enormous stamina drain for example.

Fatnas, I don't want to sprint away then jump and turn around in mid-air to fire an arrow. That's the gayest shit ever and the few people who tried it against me got wrecked. I fight like a real man, with my sword and the sprint button. It's all I need. The last time I ran out of stamina in a real fight (not counting the naked chaos stone brawls) was.. wait, it has never happened!

Without food, I can sprint and continuously spam weapon swings for nearly 100 seconds. More than enough time to kill a few people. Especially when you take into account that I never sprint and spam swings the entire damn fight. Stamina is my last worry in combat.. it's health I need.

I know getting hit drains stamina too, but meh. If it's a hard fight I'll burn stamina to avoid getting hit. Works pretty well. If I know for sure I can take the guy I won't mind getting hit, I'll just go for the kill asap so I can loot and get out of there.

[Ssly]

you have to be trolling here. you can't be that shortsighted as Atnas said.

[Bekka]

@ OP - I try to keep my stam between 80% and 100% between fights. If it looks like a fight that is going to drag on - for example if we are outnumbered 2x or 3x - I eat some fish as I move in even if my stam is still full. Generally I start converting mana to stamina when I am closing on 50-60% unless we're mopping up. If my stam ever drops to under 50%, I convert mana to stamina, pot and eat a.s.a.p.

[Nicholai Pestot]

As a rule of thumb

Food is consumed as I enter a fight- the 2 minute buff from easy-to-produce fish based foods will help my overall regen throughout the fight. It is re-eaten every 2 minutes (low logistical support required)

Self heal is used everytime the cooldown is up and I have any damage at all (zero logistical support required)

Mana-to-stamina is used as often as possible from 75% stamina down (moderate logistical support required)

Moderate Stamina pots are used as often as possible from 33% stamina down (high logistical support required)

Health and mana pots can go diaf. Stamina is king.

[Heindrik]

What is required for the Mana to stamina spell?.

And if i go fishing, the fish i get from that, Do i need to do anything with them, or are they fresh to eat right after?. 2 minute buff sounds good ;D

I auctually never fighted and used these strategies, but i can imagine they do a big difference,

[Nicholai Pestot]

Pots and pans (tool) + 1 unit raw fish + 10 seconds at oven = 1 unit cooked fish.

I cannot remember mana to stam off the top of my head.

[Jhael]

Resin

[Viluin]

you have to be trolling here. you can't be that shortsighted as Atnas said.

Maybe I am. The fact is, I've never run out of stamina during a fight. So why would I need mana2stam? Sounds like a waste of time to level LM up.

Not having mana 2 stamina certainly does not limit me in any way. From my experience, anyone who has used it against me simply allowed me to get a few free hits in while they were casting it even if they tried running. What good is 20 extra stamina for the price of 50 health?

Keep in mind that I'm always solo. The fights where I would need mana2stamina are the same fights I probably couldn't win either way (4v1 or worse).

[Nicholai Pestot]

Maybe I am. The fact is, I've never run out of stamina during a fight. So why would I need mana2stam? Sounds like a waste of time to level LM up.

Not having mana 2 stamina certainly does not limit me in any way. From my experience, anyone who has used it against me simply allowed me to get a few free hits in while they were casting it even if they tried running. What good is 20 extra stamina for the price of 50 health?

Keep in mind that I'm always solo. The fights where I would need mana2stamina are the same fights I probably couldn't win either way (4v1 or worse).

If your health is burning away before your stam, your not mobile enough or your not parrying enough.

[Viluin]

If your health is burning away before your stam, your not mobile enough or your not parrying enough.

What use is parry? I told you I'm alone, and I use a two-handed sword. It's swing or die. If I parry I'll be a sitting duck, because the weapon is too slow to retaliate.

And I'm pretty damn mobile. Believe it or not, but sprinting and swinging your weapon doesn't take much stamina at all (I can do it for 100 seconds nonstop if I want to). I easily finish most 1v1 fights with over 75% stam left.

Keep in mind I have 282 stamina and only 220 health. :ninja:

[5%Luck]

I picked up the survivalist skill!

I eat food on the way to battel just before the 1st blows. It is really kool! 120 sec food last at least 160! Bread is easy to make and albeit a little expensive but worth it for 900 sec+survivalist bonus!

Food and pots are my main way of maintaining my pools and yes m2s is essential too!

[holychicken]

you have to be trolling here. you can't be that shortsighted as Atnas said.
I see this bastard spamming m2s all the time in combat and he usually kicks our ass.

It is clear to me that Ssly wins every fight against Viliun without question.

[Viluin]

I see this bastard spamming m2s all the time in combat and he usually kicks our ass.

It is clear to me that Ssly wins every fight against Viliun without question.

I would love to test that, actually. I've never lost a 1v1 fight when I was prepared, it would be my first. The whole shebang.. armor, potions, food, mana2stamina. We'll see who wins. I bet Ssly has like 80 polearm skill though, which means gg for me. My skill is low because I don't PvE. Skilling up from PvP takes a long time. I see people with 80 weapon skill and 30 mastery skill and it makes me wonder.. wtf? They do tons more damage too.

[holychicken]

I would love to test that, actually. I've never lost a 1v1 fight when I was prepared, it would be my first. The whole shebang.. armor, potions, food, mana2stamina. We'll see who wins. I bet Ssly has like 80 polearm skill though, which means gg for me. My skill is low because I don't PvE. Skilling up from PvP takes a long time. I see people with 80 weapon skill and 30 mastery skill and it makes me wonder.. wtf? They do tons more damage too.
I should clarify. I do agree with you that m2s in 1v1 is not as important and might actually be detrimental (if you both start fresh). However, in any extended battle with more than 10 people, it becomes vital. Slipping away from battle and regenning your stam quickly is a big part of winning any group encounter.

[Viluin]

I should clarify. I do agree with you that m2s in 1v1 is not as important and might actually be detrimental (if you both start fresh). However, in any extended battle with more than 10 people, it becomes vital. Slipping away from battle and regenning your stam quickly is a big part of winning any group encounter.

I'm a solo player, I don't care.

[dinendal]

Nice e-epeen

[holychicken]

I'm a solo player, I don't care.
So, IOW, your combat experience is extremely limited yet you think you are an expert on stam use in combat.

Got it.

[Nicholai Pestot]

So, IOW, your combat experience is extremely limited yet you think you are an expert on stam use in combat.

Got it.

It is quite amusing.

[Ssly]

I would love to test that, actually. I've never lost a 1v1 fight when I was prepared, it would be my first. The whole shebang.. armor, potions, food, mana2stamina. We'll see who wins. I bet Ssly has like 80 polearm skill though, which means gg for me. My skill is low because I don't PvE. Skilling up from PvP takes a long time. I see people with 80 weapon skill and 30 mastery skill and it makes me wonder.. wtf? They do tons more damage too.

I'm not that great of a duelest so you very well might beat me. My polearm skill is only 56 =/

But i will concede that for 1v1 you'll probably never need mana to stam. HOWEVER, it's very easy to take on 2v1 and 3v1 and have a chance at winning if you're oppenents are bad. Without mana to stam... i just don't see that happening however.

For group pvp, you need it tho ;) No question.

[danl9rm]

What use is parry? I told you I'm alone, and I use a two-handed sword. It's swing or die. If I parry I'll be a sitting duck, because the weapon is too slow to retaliate.

And I'm pretty damn mobile. Believe it or not, but sprinting and swinging your weapon doesn't take much stamina at all (I can do it for 100 seconds nonstop if I want to). I easily finish most 1v1 fights with over 75% stam left.

Keep in mind I have 282 stamina and only 220 health. :ninja:

i think it's pretty clear you spend most of your time on the forums and not as much on pvp.

if you finish a fight with that much stamina left you must be one heck of an easy target(kill)

and who are you fighting anyway, miners? if that's the case, mana2stam is probably not needed.

you don't parry to retaliate!!!!!

and no, i'm not going to explain why parry is king. why help u noobs? i'm just gona end up killing you anyway.

[Viluin]

So, IOW, your combat experience is extremely limited yet you think you are an expert on stam use in combat.

Got it.

On the contrary, I have a ton of useful combat experience because I have only myself to rely on. Don't think I stick to ganking people 1 on 1.

I'm not that great of a duelest so you very well might beat me. My polearm skill is only 56 =/

But i will concede that for 1v1 you'll probably never need mana to stam. HOWEVER, it's very easy to take on 2v1 and 3v1 and have a chance at winning if you're oppenents are bad. Without mana to stam... i just don't see that happening however.

For group pvp, you need it tho ;) No question.

I've fought 2v1 and 3v1 many times. 2v1 is actually not that hard, it's all about positioning yourself in such a way that one of the two players can never hit you without hitting his friend too. Hitting both of them at the same time works great as well. 2v1 is easy without any stamina problems. 3v1 is harder, and almost impossible to pull off if they are equally well equipped. 3 random noobs sure, but 3 well organized clan mates are a different story. Stamina is not a problem in such fights if you have food and potions. I even won a 4v1 once (They were wearing studded armor and using rank 20 weaps, I was wearing banded with a rank 10 weap). That was in the water though, and I'm fucking pro at fighting underwater. Drowning was my main concern in that fight. :lmao:

My Greatswords skill is only 29, by the way. I gain like 0.1 skill per 3 PvP fights, it's retarded. :( Solo is harsh because you can hardly PvE.

i think it's pretty clear you spend most of your time on the forums and not as much on pvp.

if you finish a fight with that much stamina left you must be one heck of an easy target(kill)

and who are you fighting anyway, miners? if that's the case, mana2stam is probably not needed.

you don't parry to retaliate!!!!!

and no, i'm not going to explain why parry is king. why help u noobs? i'm just gona end up killing you anyway.

Then why do you parry with a Greatsword, to run your opponent out of stamina? You'll die before that happens if your opponent is using a decent weapon. Parrying with a 2h weapon simply DOES NOT WORK unless you're fighting a retarded mongrel. It's useful in group combat to "lose aggro", yes, but when you're alone it's a death sentence.

[holychicken]

On the contrary, I have a ton of useful combat experience because I have only myself to rely on. Don't think I stick to ganking people 1 on 1.
I didn't say you didn't have useful experience. What I said is that you have a very limited experience. There is more to combat than 1v1, 1v2 and even 1v3. When you start participating in 5v5, 10v10, 5v10, 10v5, 100v100, etc. . . get back to us and tell us how unimportant stam (and m2s) is.

[Nicholai Pestot]

Pff, mana to stamina is overrated. If a small fight between 2-10 players isn't finished by the time you run out of stamina that's just pure fail.

oops, look at this.

I thought you only went out solo.

Or are you saying you engage in 9V1's ?

[Viluin]

I didn't say you didn't have useful experience. What I said is that you have a very limited experience. There is more to combat than 1v1, 1v2 and even 1v3. When you start participating in 5v5, 10v10, 5v10, 10v5, 100v100, etc. . . get back to us and tell us how unimportant stam (and m2s) is.

You don't know me. Mana2stam is only important when you're fighting a bunch of idiots. People have tried to pull the whole "slip away then regen stamina or health" thing on me when I was fighting 1v2 or 1v3. It ended up being a free kill for me as I ran after them, putting my sword in their back while their stupid friends were chasing me, unable to land a hit. If you're able to use mana2stam in a fight without taking a few hits, it means your opponents are not paying attention.

oops, look at this.

I thought you only went out solo.

Or are you saying you engage in 9V1's ?

Oh please. One stamina pool vs. one stamina pool or five stamina pools vs. five stamina pools makes no difference. If those stamina pools are depleted before that fight is over your group is horribly incompetent. That stamina was lost and yet no kills were made. That means your group either missed, hit blocking players or let enemies regenerate during the fight. I've been in a few group vs. group encounters, where I joined in as a solo player. Never ran into any stamina problems, and people who tried to escape fighting for a few seconds to regenerate got my sword up their butthole.

[Nicholai Pestot]

You don't know me. Mana2stam is only important when you're fighting a bunch of idiots. People have tried to pull the whole "slip away then regen stamina or health" thing on me when I was fighting 1v2 or 1v3. It ended up being a free kill for me as I ran after them, putting my sword in their back while their stupid friends were chasing me, unable to land a hit. If you're able to use mana2stam in a fight without taking a few hits, it means your opponents are not paying attention.

Ill quote it again as you seem to have forgotten your own words


Pff, mana to stamina is overrated. If a small fight between 2-10 players isn't finished by the time you run out of stamina that's just pure fail.



THIS is the comment you made that people are not agreeing with.

Now, if by your own words you only go out solo, how can you comment on fights in general involving up to 10 people?

Either you don't only go out solo, or your first post was you talking out your arse.

Which is it?

[Nicholai Pestot]

Oh please. One stamina pool vs. one stamina pool or five stamina pools vs. five stamina pools makes no difference. If those stamina pools are depleted before that fight is over your group is horribly incompetent. That stamina was lost and yet no kills were made. That means your group either missed, hit blocking players or let enemies regenerate during the fight. I've been in a few group vs. group encounters, where I joined in as a solo player. Never ran into any stamina problems, and people who tried to escape fighting for a few seconds to regenerate got my sword up their butthole.


Your a solo player. Your talking about shit you have not experianced.Again.

In a co-ordinated group fight everyone does not just line up and fight 1v1 queensbury rules style.

Multiple people will hit the same target. People who are being primaried will be blocking or using tactical sprints to evade. People will be getting nocked-down, rezzed and re-entering the fight with little stamina left. Wounded, low-stam comrades will be protected with co-ordinated knockbacks.

You.Are.Talking.Shit.

[Viluin]

Ill quote it again as you seem to have forgotten your own words



THIS is the comment you made that people are not agreeing with.

Now, if by your own words you only go out solo, how can you comment on fights in general involving up to 10 people?

Either you don't only go out solo, or your first post was you talking out your arse.

Which is it?

I replied to your post in my edit.

[Viluin]

Your a solo player. Your talking about shit you have not experianced.Again.

But I do have experience with fights involving 10 players. The facts speak for themselves. If stamina pools are running out and no one has died yet, it's a sign of incompetence in some form.

Did I roll you once or twice in the game? You sound bitter. :rolleyes:


In a co-ordinated group fight everyone does not just line up and fight 1v1 queensbury rules style.

Seems like your group fights a bit, then lets the enemies that are hurt regenerate.

[holychicken]

You don't know me. Mana2stam is only important when you're fighting a bunch of idiots. People have tried to pull the whole "slip away then regen stamina or health" thing on me when I was fighting 1v2 or 1v3. It ended up being a free kill for me as I ran after them, putting my sword in their back while their stupid friends were chasing me, unable to land a hit. If you're able to use mana2stam in a fight without taking a few hits, it means your opponents are not paying attention.
I don't know you. However, what I do know is what you have told us and that is that you have next to zero experience fighting in a group or in any type of combat that includes 5 or more people.

You can theorize about combat all day, but that doesn't change the fact that your experience in combat is extremely limited and thus talking about stamina in battle as if you are an expert on the subject is just plain ridiculous.

Sorry.

You MAY be an expert when it comes to stamina in tiny battles with no teamwork, but when it comes to larger battles, you are absolutely clueless and all you have to work with is what you imagine will happen, not what actually does.

[Viluin]

I don't know you. However, what I do know is what you have told us and that is that you have next to zero experience fighting in a group or in any type of combat that includes 5 or more people.

You can theorize about combat all day, but that doesn't change the fact that your experience in combat is extremely limited and thus talking about stamina in battle as if you are an expert on the subject is just plain ridiculous.

Sorry.

You MAY be an expert when it comes to stamina in tiny battles with no teamwork, but when it comes to larger battles, you are absolutely clueless and all you have to work with is what you imagine will happen, not what actually does.

I have fought in groups MANY times. It's just that I was usually not in the group but against it.

But, since you're here, would you mind explaining why you think mana2stam is essential in group combat? I'm 99% sure the answer boils down to "incompetence".

[Nicholai Pestot]

But I do have experience with fights involving 10 players. The facts speak for themselves. If stamina pools are running out and no one has died yet, it's a sign of incompetence in some form.

Did I roll you once or twice in the game? You sound bitter. :rolleyes:



Seems like your group fights a bit, then lets the enemies that are hurt regenerate.


There...just is not any point.

Yes, fine. Everyone here with significant experiance of group fights is wrong.

You, someone who by their own decleration only goes out solo and has only ever entered a group fight as a random extra, are totaly right.

Yes. Totally.

:rolleyes:

Ill let the people reading this thread make up their own minds about stamina. Its obvious to me which orifice your talking out of, I'm sure it will be obvious to them too.

[Viluin]

There...just is not any point.

Yes, fine. Everyone here with significant experiance of group fights is wrong.

You, someone who by their own decleration only goes out solo and has only ever entered a group fight as a random extra, are totaly right.

Yes. Totally.

:rolleyes:

Ill let the people reading this thread make up their own minds about stamina. Its obvious to me which orifice your talking out of, I'm sure it will be obvious to them too.

Haha.. so you don't want to explain why you think it's important?

I highly suggest you go solo for a while. Go out PvPing with no ranged weapon. Maybe then you'll learn how to fight. In case you're interested, I have 250 kills in-game and my archery skill is at 6. SIX. Come back when you know how to use your melee weapon, maybe then you'll understand my point in this thread. Efficient fighters hardly have to worry about their stamina. Even if I'm a solo player, the fact that I have never ever run out of stamina during a real fight, not even against superior numbers, says something.

[Nicholai Pestot]

Haha.. so you don't want to explain why you think it's important?

I highly suggest you go solo for a while. Go out PvPing with no ranged weapon. Maybe then you'll learn how to fight. In case you're interested, I have 250 kills in-game and my archery skill is at 6. SIX. Come back when you know how to use your melee weapon, maybe then you'll understand my point in this thread.

Join in with a team and get on voice comms. Find out what an opening volley of arrows can do to give you an advantage.

See how long your leet 2H skills will save you when whichever target you switch to pulls out a shield and starts on/off blocking while his friends arrow you down.

Find out how much stamina you burn when you spend 4 or 5 minutes fighting a running battle against a team who have decided you have the upper hand and start trying to leave.

Watch how much stamina you have to burn just getting between 5 people who are using a group "shoot n scoot" ploy against you.

Watch how many times your attacks miss when you get a knockback to the face just as you swing.

Try ganking a downed opponent when standing still for 2 seconds near him results in a combo-knockback that sends you higher than a tree. Rezzes happen plentifully and often in a group fight.

I'm not questioning your skill as a solo fighter.I don't doubt you would piss all over me 1v1, but your comments show you have never come up against a good team. It would seem you have never played as part of a coordinated team either, or you would already know about these tricks.

[Viluin]

Join in with a team and get on voice comms. Find out what an opening volley of arrows can do to give you an advantage.

It'll let them know you're there, and if they decide to run you're in for a long chase if the distance between you and them is large. It's more effective to sneak up on them and attack them form behind with melee attacks.


See how long your leet 2H skills will save you when whichever target you switch to pulls out a shield and starts on/off blocking while his friends arrow you down.

Put the shield user between you and the archers and have your friends attack the archers.


Find out how much stamina you burn when you spend 4 or 5 minutes fighting a running battle against a team who have decided you have the upper hand and start trying to leave.

4 or 5 minutes fighting a retreating group? Jesus christ, what do you guys do, have a teaparty along the way? Even when I fight 1v3 it's over within 2 minutes max.


Watch how much stamina you have to burn just getting between 5 people who are using a group "shoot n scoot" ploy against you.

Explain.


Watch how many times your attacks miss when you get a knockback to the face just as you swing.

You can see the knockback coming.


Try ganking a downed opponent when standing still for 2 seconds near him results in a combo-knockback that sends you higher than a tree. Rezzes happen plentifully and often in a group fight.

You don't gank someone during combat, that's just stupid. You leave them on the ground because if they die they'll probably spawn at a bindstone nearby, and return to the fight. What you do is you hope someone tries to rez that person so you can get free backhits. God I love it when they rez, it's insta lose.

[holychicken]

I have fought in groups MANY times. It's just that I was usually not in the group but against it.
Fighting IN a group is not the same as fighting AGAINST a group.

But, since you're here, would you mind explaining why you think mana2stam is essential in group combat? I'm 99% sure the answer boils down to "incompetence".
The simple answer is that when you are outnumbered, you have to exert more stamina to kill all of your foes.

I could also explain to you why it is vital in equal numbered group combat as well, however, I suspect that, because you have almost no experience with that type of combat, you would mistake "the realities of group combat" with "incompetence." So there is little point in doing so.

But none of this changes the fact that you have next to no experience in fighting with a group. The dynamics are very different and get much more complex as the numbers increase. You don't understand this and will not until you actually participate in such battles. Sorry, but you are not an expert when it comes to stamina use. You are very experienced in a very narrowly defined use of stamina.

I am not saying you are a bad player nor that I am a good player. I am just saying that your experience in the game is very narrow and thus judging "stam use" off of your experience makes no sense.

[La Cuspide Scarlatta]

Viluin, I want to mainly solo and I'm a bad pvper

please teach me something when (if) I get in game

I promise I won't be able to surpass the master

[Viluin]

Viluin, I want to mainly solo and I'm a bad pvper

please teach me something when (if) I get in game

I promise I won't be able to surpass the master

Sorry, I don't take students. I'd probably just kill you if you have gear.

[Viluin]

Aww, I just lost my first 1v1. :( I was almost naked with a starter weapon, versus a guy in full gear and a rank 10 greatsword. He was hitting nearly twice as hard as me, but I was still winning. Then he turns and runs.. 3 seconds later a tower zaps me through a fucking hill and it's over. Bah. He got my loot and the loot of the guy I killed a minute earlier (His tombstone was still there).

[Hapless{SR}]

Aww, I just lost my first 1v1. :( I was almost naked with a starter weapon, versus a guy in full gear and a rank 10 greatsword. He was hitting nearly twice as hard as me, but I was still winning. Then he turns and runs.. 3 seconds later a tower zaps me through a fucking hill and it's over. Bah. He got my loot and the loot of the guy I killed a minute earlier (His tombstone was still there).

I'll agree there isn't much need for m2s when you're still fighting in newb town.

[Viluin]

I'll agree there isn't much need for m2s when you're still fighting in newb town.

It's the only place I can PvP, because 80% of the server hangs out near starter towns. Charging into a clan city solo isn't exactly a good idea.

I've fought people who were probably better equipped than you are. ;) I have a lot of plate in my bank, all of it stolen. No full plate though, but I've never seen anyone actually wear it.

[La Cuspide Scarlatta]

Sorry, I don't take students. I'd probably just kill you if you have gear.

I never have any gear, ever

But when you'll die, all your knowledge will be lost with you. You should at least take one disciple to be your successor and bring forth your art

[Haeso]

you have to be trolling here. you can't be that shortsighted as Atnas said.

15k posts later, I'm not sure to dismiss him based on his history or not.