pve soloing?

[jeremyram777]

How is it that i hear or read all these posts about people killing mobs solo (other than goblins) and high lvl mobs at that?

I've been playing since they opened it up, which is a couple weeks now and i loose alot of life very quickly fighting even cave bears, and other mobs.

My attacks dont do all that much either, i've lvl'd lots of things and dont seem to be making that big of difference in this pve world?

Can anyone lend a side note/advice on what im possible doing wrong here please its been rather upsetting especially when it comes to pvp im next to nothing. thanks.

[digihazard]

I have been wondering this, I have gone from fighting trolls pretty much naked to fighting them in full banded in the last few days and i still end up on the same amount of health(ish) per kill, skills dont seem to have much effect but then i do have pretty low armor proficiency and polearms is only 20 or so.

[Maphusio]

Do me a favor, I'm not in game but I hear http://www.exploiter.org/darkfall/ is a pretty good map for finding soloable mobs. let us know if that works.

[jeremyram777]

yeah exploiter is a good map ive used it but skilld/damage/health all seems off for some reason. unless others got cheats in right away i cant explain it...

[PrimalSign]

I've been playing since they opened it up, which is a couple weeks now and i loose alot of life very quickly fighting even cave bears, and other mobs.

Cave bears hit like a truck but their health is low. Use range to whittle them down. If you get in melee sometimes they like to run around at a slow pace. Rush in and hit them from the back while they do this. Their turning rate isn't the best either, and if you're fast on your feet you can sometimes dance around them without being hit.

[Cautes]

perhaps many mobs are for solos, but not the following ganksquad that hear your fighting sound.

Shild often works fine for some mobs,

[Da Fleegsta]

im so sick of peoploe making these posts... first of all, its not a solo game. if you want to mainly solo in this game, gtfo..
secondly items and skills are supposed to make little difference on purpose. they made the game this way so that you don't need to grind. yet people still do anyway for the very little bonus they get.. this is a skill based pvp game. no matter how good your character is, in the end it depends on your player skill.

[Rodhull]

Can anyone lend a side note/advice on what im possible doing wrong here please its been rather upsetting especially when it comes to pvp im next to nothing. thanks.

What your doing wrong is playing the game the way you want to play it, to make farming mobs worthwhile you need a group, period, despite Tasos saying solo was viable.
You can if your willing to take hours kill most mobs solo IF you use a bow and hundreds of arrows, basically once you go into melee it gets really tough solo, solo killing mobs above the obvious crap like trolls relies on you using a bow.
Again not really very sandbox or freeform but thats how it is currently.

im so sick of peoploe making these posts... first of all, its not a solo game. if you want to mainly solo in this game, gtfo..

Perhaps you should inform Tasos and AV about that gem of information before flapping your gums, cause they seem to think it is soloable.
And they've said so numerous times in interviews.

[Cetra[EQ]]

What your doing wrong is playing the game the way you want to play it, to make farming mobs worthwhile you need a group, period, despite Tasos saying solo was viable.
You can if your willing to take hours kill most mobs solo IF you use a bow and hundreds of arrows, basically once you go into melee it gets really tough solo, solo killing mobs above the obvious crap like trolls relies on you using a bow.
Again not really very sandbox or freeform but thats how it is currently.



Perhaps you should inform Tasos and AV about that gem of information before flapping your gums, cause they seem to think it is soloable.
And they've said so numerous times in interviews.

Playing solo is viable, like you said in your post.

You can if your willing to take hours kill most mobs solo

Whats hard to understand about groups obviously killing faster than a solo player? Nearly everything is soloable, but easier in a group.

Also when talking about Darkfall being soloable, it's not necessarily talking about killing Dragons solo - but more like saying it's a viable option as a player to come in with a group. It's full loot. You want loot? You stalk a group killing high level mobs, and cut them all down when they go to rest. What's so hard to understand about this?

Being solo is an option, but grouping makes things a lot easier - like it does EVERYWHERE.

[Rodhull]

;3099479']Playing solo is viable, like you said in your post.

Whats hard to understand about groups obviously killing faster than a solo player? Nearly everything is soloable, but easier in a group.

Also when talking about Darkfall being soloable, it's not necessarily talking about killing Dragons solo - but more like saying it's a viable option as a player to come in with a group. It's full loot. You want loot? You stalk a group killing high level mobs, and cut them all down when they go to rest. What's so hard to understand about this?

Being solo is an option, but grouping makes things a lot easier - like it does EVERYWHERE.

When i think viable, i think 'enjoyable and sustainable form of play' NOT 'is possible but ultimately pointless'

Yes its viable in theory but its not really worth it at all, its is misleading to say its viable. Whent Tasos said those comments he should have said 'its possible but really i wouldnt recommend it'

And who said i think dragons should be soloable??
Ever tried to kill an earth elemental or troll lord solo?
Yes its possible but if your idea of fun is peppering a mob with hundreds of arrows while you kite around and exploit its rubbish AI and pathfinding for 30+ minutes then id say you need serious mental help.

Its supposed to be a sandbox, if your forced to use bows to take down mobs that isnt a sandbox its poor game design. And what retards are playing in release who can get killed by a lone player while in a group? Besides thats a totally unrelated subject, the OP asked about soloing mobs, not how to gank a group of mob farmers.

[Da Fleegsta]

Perhaps you should inform Tasos and AV about that gem of information before flapping your gums, cause they seem to think it is soloable.
And they've said so numerous times in interviews.

ok obviously you havent been here for too long.. incase you havent noticed, AV claimed alot of things that weren't true.. Like player houses, non grinding, exiting/fun crafting system.. obviously, they seem to not do so well on the truth part of things..

but hey who am i to judge right? well, wait till you get the game and start soloing mobs.. have fun dying :)

[Hanrald]

I do not know if you are still useing a starter weapon or not? even a basic rank 0 weapon is much better then the starter one.

I know as you get stronger you can solo stronger things. I could not solo gnolls before. But now with a bit better skills and weapon I can.It is not real safe because can get ganked. Also it is hard to get the gnolls alone sometimes.

All spawns will be much harder if you are the only person there. A goblin or kobold spawn can even be hard if they all attack you at the same time.

[ThuleMazule]

you can try mounted combat. i was able to kill a troll spawn quick enough to loot and go rest some befor the respawn.

[Nemesis X]

im so sick of peoploe making these posts... first of all, its not a solo game. if you want to mainly solo in this game, gtfo..
secondly items and skills are supposed to make little difference on purpose. they made the game this way so that you don't need to grind. yet people still do anyway for the very little bonus they get.. this is a skill based pvp game. no matter how good your character is, in the end it depends on your player skill.

It's not a grinding game, it's a macroing game.. ohh sorry i forgot that athe only good source of items are mobs.. so yes it's also a grinding game

[Yakamoz]

How is it that i hear or read all these posts about people killing mobs solo (other than goblins) and high lvl mobs at that?

I've been playing since they opened it up, which is a couple weeks now and i loose alot of life very quickly fighting even cave bears, and other mobs.

My attacks dont do all that much either, i've lvl'd lots of things and dont seem to be making that big of difference in this pve world?

Can anyone lend a side note/advice on what im possible doing wrong here please its been rather upsetting especially when it comes to pvp im next to nothing. thanks.
I can solo in effective way - read without wasting arrows:
1. Goblins.
2. Kobolds.
3. Trolls and troll shamans.
4. Centaurs.
5. Orc Protector.
6. Orc Soldier.
7. Orc Acolyte.
8. Skeletons and Skeleton Warriors
9. Zombies and Dire Zombies.
10. and many others.

[bobii]

zomg i cannot hold W and spam mouse1 with my leafblade to kill a mob before it kills me. nerf mob hp please Q_Q

[Milo Hobgoblin]

im so sick of peoploe making these posts... first of all, its not a solo game. if you want to mainly solo in this game, gtfo..
secondly items and skills are supposed to make little difference on purpose. they made the game this way so that you don't need to grind. yet people still do anyway for the very little bonus they get.. this is a skill based pvp game. no matter how good your character is, in the end it depends on your player skill.

you fail at sandbox 101.. epicly.

[tejón]

Ever tried to kill an earth elemental or troll lord solo?
Only problem I had with the troll lord, the one time I tried, was that there were two of them and three regular trolls. Got him to 40%, didn't die. Spent zero arrows, but a fair amount of sulphur.

I can solo in effective way - read without wasting arrows:
[...]
10. and many others.
I'll second that entire list, except the centaurs, which have yet to spawn for me. :rolleyes:

No, I can't (yet?) solo raptors or undead dwarves in a fun or efficient way; but no, that doesn't make me think that solo play is inviable or not worthwhile.

The "it's an MMO" argument is bullshit. I interact with people all the time: competing for mobs, fighting PKs and other races, and yes, sometimes cooperating to get something difficult done. I love having other players around. I still spend most of my time working alone.

[Junkaboy]

Solo PvE is only viable in this game with arrows.

Most mobs deal a lot of melee damage (even if you wear decent armor) and when you get in close range, you will most likely be taking damage from more then one MOB. Spawn mechanics also dont help this, since mobs normally respawn all together... so there is no "spawn breaking" to get singles.

Also there is the GANK factor.
If you melee, you will always be a sitting duck with half life when things get ugly... when you kite, you dont get hit and therefore you will be full HP when the bad people show up (which will eventually happen), drastically increasing your chances of succesfully fleeing or fighting.

Spells aren't effective... try and compare how much damage you could deal with a full mana bar using spells against the damage of a bow and arrows with full stam bar. On higher level spells this gets even worse, since they have a much larger energy cost.

And thats not even mentioning the fact that with resins and mana to stam spell, your total stamina for a fight almost doubles.


So for PvE there are 3 viable options:
- Solo Kite
- Group Gank
- Dirty Exploit

[Kvothe]

If this game is so much about skill and not armor, then why does armor make such a big difference vs. other players? No, I still think that armor or mobs are currently broken in such a way that armor is not protecting against mobs. If the fix this it would be alot better.

The game should be encouraging group play by the fact that if you're out soloing mobs, you're very vulnerable. It shoudln't be that you need a group because almost all mobs are too hard to take solo IMO.

[tejón]

Spells aren't effective...
Try casting real spells, with a real staff. Health to Mana is just as good for mage longevity as Mana to Stamina is for an archer, and since I'm not fighting with my stam bar I can usually GTFO if a gank squad shows up.

Not to mention that I've found quite a few mobs with high armor but low HP, which I can actually kill faster with spells than with arrows.

[Ekoh]

im so sick of peoploe making these posts... first of all, its not a solo game. if you want to mainly solo in this game, gtfo..
secondly items and skills are supposed to make little difference on purpose. they made the game this way so that you don't need to grind. yet people still do anyway for the very little bonus they get.. this is a skill based pvp game. no matter how good your character is, in the end it depends on your player skill.

this is the reason people call stupid fucks like you 09ers. shut the fuck up you dumb idiot.

[Ekoh]

ok obviously you havent been here for too long.. incase you havent noticed, AV claimed alot of things that weren't true.. Like player houses, non grinding, exiting/fun crafting system.. obviously, they seem to not do so well on the truth part of things..

but hey who am i to judge right? well, wait till you get the game and start soloing mobs.. have fun dying :)

this is coming from the guy who is going to tell everyone he sat back and watched the forums since DF was first announced and decided he would make an account in jan 09. fucking troll

[epic loss]

im so sick of peoploe making these posts... first of all, its not a solo game. if you want to mainly solo in this game, gtfo..
secondly items and skills are supposed to make little difference on purpose. they made the game this way so that you don't need to grind. yet people still do anyway for the very little bonus they get.. this is a skill based pvp game. no matter how good your character is, in the end it depends on your player skill.

How about you stfu!!. they didnt make the game this way from the get go.. you are to stupid to know a broken game when one is up your ass. This game is so f#@$ed up and you think it's how it supposed to be , enjoy it for the next 2 or 3 months before the servers close forever....ASS!!!

[psychosiszz]

This is more so a solo pve game than ever. Because people just bug out the high level mobs and kill them that way.
I havent seen one person kill High level PVE in a legit fashion the reason for this.
1. Mobs are so easy to bug out its not even funny
2. Pve is really boring and dull
3. Mob A.I is retarded, runs around like crazy for no reason
4. Pve mobs have to much health, it pretty much does force people to bug them out to kill them.

PVE is just a means to a end. Its dull and stupidy easy to exploit.

[Golbez01]

You can perch and take tremendously less damage. You can use your mount to kill half of the mob (and half your mount hp in the process). Those two are big things. A third has been mentioned, but was just revealed to me the other day, some mobs turn very slowly and you can get and stay behind them.