View Full Version : Efficient way to raise: Greater/Other schools of Magic
Leviathen
03-19-2009, 03:16 PM
Any suggestions on how to increase Greater Magic and other schools?
At 1.0 Greater Magic:
What spell would be the cheapest
Has the cheapest component cost
Other schools:
Elementals
Witch
morde
03-19-2009, 03:22 PM
Greater Magic
-Rend 1-25
-Unburden or Frailty 25-50, Personally I used both because I had an ample amount of Sulphur(frailty) and Mandrake(unburden).
Capricious
03-19-2009, 03:43 PM
What is the mana cost on unburden?
I'm using both frailty and heal other for GM 25+
morde
03-19-2009, 03:55 PM
What is the mana cost on unburden?
I'm using both frailty and heal other for GM 25+
I can't remember exactly but its less than frailty. I think I was getting maybe 10-11 Frailty cast from one mana bar with 29-30 INT. Unburden is quite a bit more cast than that. I could cast unburden and wait 17-20 seconds and be full mana again. Not to mention it takes away all your encumbrances. It took my encumbrance into the negative wearing scale and chain other times to .8
I can check how many when I get home to be more specific.
Capricious
03-19-2009, 03:59 PM
I can't remember exactly but its less than frailty. I think I was getting maybe 10-11 Frailty cast from one mana bar with 29-30 INT. Unburden is quite a bit more cast than that. I could cast unburden and wait 17-20 seconds and be full mana again. Not to mention it takes away all your encumbrances. It took my encumbrance into the negative wearing scale and chain other times to .8
I can check how many when I get home to be more specific.
Would be helpful, thanks.
I believe I'm getting 5 casts of heal other + 5 of frailty on a mana bar (my int is 29 I believe). I figured heal other is somewhat useful so I might as well level it. I'll probably drop the coin on unburden as well.
Heal other: 24 mana
Frailty: 20 mana
I can't remember exactly but its less than frailty. I think I was getting maybe 10-11 Frailty cast from one mana bar with 29-30 INT. Unburden is quite a bit more cast than that. I could cast unburden and wait 17-20 seconds and be full mana again. Not to mention it takes away all your encumbrances. It took my encumbrance into the negative wearing scale and chain other times to .8
I can check how many when I get home to be more specific.
Are you saying that unburden is actually good? How long does the buff last?
Im at 43 GM...and only lvling Heal Other ( mandrake - easy to get from herbalism) and Rend ( bones- the easiest to farm as skeletons are easy to solo..and drop alot or skinned as well..)
unburden and frailty seem useless to me...
Capricious
03-19-2009, 04:32 PM
Im at 43 GM...and only lvling Heal Other ( mandrake - easy to get from herbalism) and Rend ( bones- the easiest to farm as skeletons are easy to solo..and drop alot or skinned as well..)
unburden and frailty seem useless to me...
I'm not sure on the cast/cooldown for unburden, but frailty is the same as heal other. I can cast heal other/frailty back to back 5 times and rest. Over time it would go faster than heal other/rend. Plus, sulfur was easy to get.
morde
03-19-2009, 04:48 PM
Unburden cost 13 mana uses 1 sulphur and last about 3 minutes @ 50 skill. I don't think its totally useless if you plan on casting wearing heavy armor. Unless you like casting slow.
inademv
03-19-2009, 05:12 PM
Im at 43 GM...and only lvling Heal Other ( mandrake - easy to get from herbalism) and Rend ( bones- the easiest to farm as skeletons are easy to solo..and drop alot or skinned as well..)
unburden and frailty seem useless to me...
Frailty is worth leveling. The resistance debuff goes up quite a bit at 50+ and is a great substitute for rend or other spells that debuff only a specific damage resistance.
Capricious
03-19-2009, 05:36 PM
Unburden cost 13 mana uses 1 sulphur and last about 3 minutes @ 50 skill. I don't think its totally useless if you plan on casting wearing heavy armor. Unless you like casting slow.
@ 13 mana I like it. Whats the cast/recast?
Updating the list from before
Heal other: 24 mana (~2 second cast, ~2 second cooldown)
Frailty: 20 mana (~2 second cast, ~2 second cooldown)
Unburden: 13 mana
Unburden cost 13 mana uses 1 sulphur and last about 3 minutes @ 50 skill. I don't think its totally useless if you plan on casting wearing heavy armor. Unless you like casting slow.
by how much it reduces encumberance?
AdmiralChaos
03-19-2009, 06:47 PM
Unburden cost 13 mana uses 1 sulphur and last about 3 minutes @ 50 skill. I don't think its totally useless if you plan on casting wearing heavy armor. Unless you like casting slow.
This is the 2nd most useful spell in the game, while launch is the first. We have guys rolling in full scale launching firebolt barrages from hell and nobody can stop them.
@ 13 mana I like it. Whats the cast/recast?
Updating the list from before
Heal other: 24 mana (~2 second cast, ~2 second cooldown)
Frailty: 20 mana (~2 second cast, ~2 second cooldown)
Unburden: 13 mana
heal other is at 3 second cooldown with noob staff.
TheDor
03-20-2009, 05:49 AM
Rend: Bone, 24 mana, 2s cast, 15s recast
Heal Other: Mandrake, 24 mana, 1s cast, 4s recast
Infliction Shield: Nacre, 32 mana, 3s cast, 10s recast
Unburden: Mandrake, 16 mana, 2s cast, 22s recast
Frailty: Sulfur, 20 mana, 2s cast, 3s recast
AdmiralChaos
03-20-2009, 06:36 AM
http://www.ozbackup.com/spells/spells.php
look at that list. update that list. enjoy that list.
Alaniz
03-20-2009, 06:41 AM
In Witchcraft, Spell Curse takes one Mandrake in addition to one Bone.
Finddus
03-20-2009, 10:51 AM
What is malediction? Is it a type of resistance? If so against what? Necromancy/witchcraft spells?
Lictor
03-20-2009, 11:16 AM
This is the 2nd most useful spell in the game, while launch is the first. We have guys rolling in full scale launching firebolt barrages from hell and nobody can stop them.
Just one question: how to use Launch properly so you jump so high, as some people do. I have it on 75 already, but it still launches me (others) rather low, so I think there's some trick with jump/crouch/movement/spell casting direction being involved...
Sakaar
03-20-2009, 11:29 AM
From Gm 1-25 use Rend only at 25 buy unburden and use rend and unburden....dont use the heal others shit it simply dont level your GM as fast as those other two do. i grinded through GM in 5 Days this way
heal others is pretty useless btw heals lesser than lay hands on xD
unburden is fucking uswfull bein able to cast in banded or even scale without penaltiy
salaam
03-20-2009, 11:38 AM
Just one question: how to use Launch properly so you jump so high, as some people do. I have it on 75 already, but it still launches me (others) rather low, so I think there's some trick with jump/crouch/movement/spell casting direction being involved...
#looking at your feet and launching doesn't work well.
1. go near wall
2. look at wall just a little upwards
3. launch
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