View Full Version : polearm too OP in PVP..agree?
mirathul
03-19-2009, 09:28 AM
yeah i know i get flamed by all those that uses them, but you know its OP...so forget it, if you defend it your going to look retarded, make weapons more equal, some longer range, some wider range, som hit harder, some with Knock back, not ONE weapon that have it all, kind of.. anyone else agree?
Fomy12
03-19-2009, 09:41 AM
yeah i know i get flamed by all those that uses them, but you know its OP...so forget it, if you defend it your going to look retarded, make weapons more equal, some longer range, some wider range, som hit harder, some with Knock back, not ONE weapon that have it all, kind of.. anyone else agree?
hmm well polearm are the slowest of the 2hers but i mean it can be beaten...
but ya they r definetly op
and i use 2h axes for the record, and bows.
retrospect
03-19-2009, 09:44 AM
Wow and by posting this in multiple forums not only are you dumb you are asking for a lock.
Spyhunter107
03-19-2009, 09:59 AM
Wow and by posting this in multiple forums not only are you dumb you are asking for a lock.
I second this
Kotoll
03-19-2009, 10:11 AM
Polearm is fine. As a 2 handed sword user I see it as a challenge. Its beatable even on very good players. Now if they took out the knockback I would be upset. I feel the knockback actually causes more problems in certain situations then it helps.
As 1h and Board user i say:
Polearms are ok.
Maybe a skilled Polearmer could be a challenge, but most noobs just use polearms cause of the damage....
Its so slow its getting blocked easyly + when i crouch most people just hack above me and never hit...maybe they are all to stupid for PVP...:D
Never got killed by a polearm...just 2hswords and stuff :P
Abremalist
03-19-2009, 11:27 AM
Nope.
It is slow, you can block it decently easy.
It drains lots of stamina from the user.
You can't use it on a mount.
Jezvin
03-19-2009, 11:33 AM
I wish it didn't have knockback.
Silenous
03-19-2009, 11:56 AM
The polearm is a awesome weapon but it takes stamina really really fast. Many people are using it in PvP but some proved that a good 1h sword and a good shield with some chains are better. Cause one with a 1h sword and a shield can I attack twice till the other one with the polearm attacks once. Or the first one can attack once and dfend himself with the shield instead of attacking twice.
I don't use neither of these I use Greatmaces but still this is a good strategy. Make sure people that you use it in combat and pwn some ppl :D;)
Moshland
03-19-2009, 12:10 PM
Wow and by posting this in multiple forums not only are you dumb you are asking for a lock.
exactly, nobody agrees with you, go away and cry to yourself
dizzyjoe
03-19-2009, 03:32 PM
I think the reason why so many people would deem polearms as OP is because most pvp encounters deal with a polearm user. Being one myself, I wouldn't say they are OP at all. Just like any other weapon in the game, it has all to due with timing. I can rock other polearm people the easiest of all other weapons because their so slow compared to others.
I find fighting against sword and board as the toughest of all weps. I think the weapons are balanced for the most part.
Nope.
It is slow, you can block it decently easy.
It drains lots of stamina from the user.
You can't use it on a mount.
This.
I still can't say I've been beaten on foot, in a full hp/stam 1v1 and I use polearms. I'm pro as fuck though so few people can even dance with me.
Eimstein
03-19-2009, 04:13 PM
Sword & Board owns polearms.
klokateer #7829
03-19-2009, 04:15 PM
Sword & Board owns polearms.
hey! someone that knows how to use their brain!
on forumfall? what are the odds!
PA is fine, OP. Stop spamming multiple forums.
MrDDT
03-19-2009, 05:13 PM
I would like to add that Polearms are the best weapons hit for hit in PVP.
They are the best weapons for DPS in PVP.
They have a knockback effect.
Longest range.
They swing the SAME speed as other weapons if you account for each hitting at the same rate everytime.
We tested this with, polearm guy attacking 2h sword guy. Sword guy swinging as fast as they can, polearm guy swinging as fast as they can. Each hitting EVERYTIME.
Sword guy would swing at the same speed as polearm guy due to the knockback messing up the attack.
Explain how the polearm isnt the best?
Major DPS, longest reach. Much more damage. About the same speed because in pvp you dont just swing as fast as you can you swing when you can hit. So the small delay isnt a big deal.
They do use more stam but not much like .5 more per swing. Thats 3.25 for a 2h sword vs 3.75 for a polearm. Thats 1/6th more stam but it does a LOT more damage. Over 1/3 more damage.
klokateer #7829
03-19-2009, 05:18 PM
Your numbers are extremely off MrDDT.
I've done the same tests and noticed stamina depletion at a much faster rate than 2h sword.
Range is better, but speed is noticable slower.
damage is higher because it hits slower and uses more stam.
2hand sword is by far the best for pvp because of the directional sideswipe attacks. You can circle strafe two ways, while all other weapons can only do one (i believe).
too bad i already have 52 polearms.
Maglubiyet
03-19-2009, 05:24 PM
IDK I think just cause more people use them they seem OP. I know in beta me and y friend would spar and I would beat his 2h sword with my 2h ax. I always thought in 1v1 combat that the pole arm is kinda weak because it's so slow and has the knock back. Miss a swing and your at a disadvantage. In all honesty I think they are pretty well balanced, if anything maybe they mitigate TOO much damage when you use parry. Hell I can parry a arrow with my pole arm. That just seems dumb.
Mordun
03-19-2009, 05:46 PM
Aw You all stupid evil manipulating basterds. Polearms are OP. And here comes the good part, I can explain why! Didnt see anyone really explain why they are OP but let me convince you all.
Ok short story: Me and my brother usally play MMO ALOT togheter. We very adapted/love to pvp and so we got hook on DF. One thing we noticed is the lack of balance. We even agreed that AoC had better balance then this. Hell even World of shitcraft had better balance later in time.
Skills doesnt really do anything in this game. Power attack is kind of useless. Havent seen anyone use it and frankly neither do i. Knockback... well good for hit and run?
Now reason number 1. Why polearm are OP.
1. Most people use polearms, why? Do i need to explain?
All 2h is Overpowerd compared to 1h or kifes. Everyone who says they win against 2h with 1h is faceing either a noob or a retard. I played kife and 2h, 2h easily win all hands down.
2. My brother can beat my 2h by draining my stamina too zero but frankly i can just MM him to death if i am near 0 sta. This eleminat ur sta arguments...
2. In pvp u trade blows by run and hit. This means that speed doesnt do a jack shit really. While my wep is recharging for the next swing i just backstep or run past him. I dont have to really explain this do i? So a wep that does 10 damage vs a wep that does 15 damage, who will win if eachother hit eachother the same number of times?
3. One migt argue that it is harder to hit with a wep that attack so slow. because the enemy can see when you attack and sidestep. WRONG! If u not a compelt idiot u wont attack if u dont know u will hit. How hard can it be to hit something with that range which is twice the opponents? If he runs just run after him so u dont lose distance... A fix too this would be to make a polearm take more skill of the players to wield. Make it so a polarms cant use full attack power if the enemy are close to the wielder. This forces the opponent to think more of keeping a distance that is relevant. (This might have to be tested out fully first!)
Ok, polearms are a SMALL step to balance this game out but it can be done if some people just stop WHINING about being nerfed. The 1h and especially the knifes need abit more love.
Prometheas
03-19-2009, 06:00 PM
If polearms are so overpowered, how come the only people I ever get into fights with are either newbies with the redreach or using some other 2hander?
I use the polearm and for all the fights I get into, I have yet to fight a guy with a non-noob polearm. Mostly 2handed swords/axes.
[LoD]Setz
03-19-2009, 06:05 PM
yeah i know i get flamed by all those that uses them, but you know its OP...so forget it, if you defend it your going to look retarded, make weapons more equal, some longer range, some wider range, som hit harder, some with Knock back, not ONE weapon that have it all, kind of.. anyone else agree?
I used 2h swords in beta, Polearms now. Polearms are definitely OP, they have pretty much a 180 degree hit radius in front of you or close to it and you get back hits a lot when you are still standing in front or to the side of the person.
MrDDT
03-19-2009, 06:05 PM
Your numbers are extremely off MrDDT.
I've done the same tests and noticed stamina depletion at a much faster rate than 2h sword.
Range is better, but speed is noticable slower.
damage is higher because it hits slower and uses more stam.
You fail in your statement once you said that polearms range is better.
My test = this.
2 people standing face to face.
One using a polearm.
Other using a 2h sword.
Both attacking each other as fast as they can.
1 min later stop attacking.
# of swings each person does = same.
Damage per swing = higher for polearm user.
Stamina used total = Polearm = .5 more per swing.
Any other questions?
In total polearm = better in all testing vs 2h sword.
Someone said about side swiping Ive not tested this so I cant say. If its a hitting issue, I say polearms from my exp have been easier to hit people then 2h sword.
More testing is needed on this topic but other factors are still in polearms favor greatly.
Other 2h weapons all fail due to lack of range and range in melee = huge factor.
Buckee
03-19-2009, 06:06 PM
As 1h and Board user i say:
Polearms are ok.
Maybe a skilled Polearmer could be a challenge, but most noobs just use polearms cause of the damage....
Its so slow its getting blocked easyly + when i crouch most people just hack above me and never hit...maybe they are all to stupid for PVP...:D
Never got killed by a polearm...just 2hswords and stuff :P
Wow, you dont pvp much do yuh>>
I disagree, they are good if you end up in a 2 handed weapon dancing contest and good for running after people and hit them in the back. Also, they tend to be of little use in group combat.
MrDDT
03-19-2009, 06:13 PM
I disagree, they are good if you end up in a 2 handed weapon dancing contest and good for running after people and hit them in the back. Also, they tend to be of little use in group combat.
Ya no.
Trading blows = polearm wins.
Standing still = polearm wins.
Running around = polearm wins.
The only case where a polearm might have a problem is vs someone blocking and even then they dont die they just stop attacking them. = Stalemate, or force them to use mana missle or some magic. Which everyone has.
Narcowski
03-19-2009, 06:15 PM
Ya no.
Trading blows = polearm wins.
Standing still = polearm wins.
Running around = polearm wins.
The only case where a polearm might have a problem is vs someone blocking and even then they dont die they just stop attacking them. = Stalemate, or force them to use mana missle or some magic. Which everyone has.
Standing still and trading blows daggers out-dps polearms.
Polearms are only popular because they're easy. They make good weapons for unskilled players.
Cetra[EQ]
03-19-2009, 06:16 PM
If you think polearm is overpowered, then use polearm. I use polearm and I personally don't think they're overpowered - obviously that's my opinion just because I use them. :rolleyes:
There shouldn't even really be an argument, there's nothing preventing people from simply picking up a polearm themselves. So if they feel it's overpowered then they should use it. :)
If their excuse for not using polearm is that they want a 'challenge', then why cry about them being overpowered? Surely if it's a challenge you want, then them being overpowered would suit you perfectly? :confused:
Zushakon
03-19-2009, 06:40 PM
Itt:
;3087852']i use polearm and i personally don't think they're overpowered - obviously that's my opinion just because i use them. :rolleyes:
Mytchi
03-19-2009, 07:34 PM
Idiot we want balance and if we pick other weapons we pick them cause we like look of them or fighting style. We dont want disadvantage when we pick other weapons.
;3087852']If you think polearm is overpowered, then use polearm. I use polearm and I personally don't think they're overpowered - obviously that's my opinion just because I use them. :rolleyes:
There shouldn't even really be an argument, there's nothing preventing people from simply picking up a polearm themselves. So if they feel it's overpowered then they should use it. :)
If their excuse for not using polearm is that they want a 'challenge', then why cry about them being overpowered? Surely if it's a challenge you want, then them being overpowered would suit you perfectly? :confused:
that's a retarded argument. Why dont we just do away with races and every other weapon type but polearms? Might as well do away with all the different magic spells too. Yea, seems like a good idea....everyone running around carbon copies of each other. :lmao:
Im still debating the polearm thing. I hesitate to say its OP, but the fact that SO MANY people run around with them is saying something. Using 2h swords myself, I have found keeping distance while fighting polearms seems to work decently, but a skilled polearm user will definitely own you since moving forward is faster than backpedaling.
I agree too, they seem to oddly score a lot of backhits even though I am face to face with the opponent.
At the very least humans shouldnt use polearms cuz they are shorter than their weapon and it looks ridiculous :p
... but the fact that SO MANY people run around with them is saying something.
This
Eimstein
03-19-2009, 07:39 PM
If polearms are so overpowered, how come the only people I ever get into fights with are either newbies with the redreach or using some other 2hander?
I use the polearm and for all the fights I get into, I have yet to fight a guy with a non-noob polearm. Mostly 2handed swords/axes.
Polarms are so popular because you can just run in circles and spam swings with no skill and still be semi effective.
Thyometha
03-19-2009, 07:39 PM
Polearms are only OP against retards. They're really a bit easier to deal with for people with shields as well.
klokateer #7829
03-19-2009, 07:41 PM
Polearms are only OP against retards. They're really a bit easier to deal with for people with shields as well.
or half a brain.
Polarms are so popular because you can just run in circles and spam swings with no skill and still be semi effective.
Yes, and their damage is the highest and their swing time is negligable since in real pvp, the amount of time between swings during a dance is best.
End Dream
03-19-2009, 07:47 PM
in group pvp its OP... in 1v1 shield wins
KuraM
03-19-2009, 07:51 PM
I was polearm till about skill 26, then i switched to 2h swords until skill 42 ish, then i went back to polearm because i couldnt stand the range shortening. 2h swords have a wider swing, but polearms have a longer reach, which means i can stand a little further back.
another good reason i came back to polearms was because if i hit a guy a few times while chasing him, hed eventually be out of range from the knockback. Also the rank 25 knockback skill is slower and has a longer cooldown on polearms.
KuraM
03-19-2009, 07:52 PM
in group pvp its OP... in 1v1 shield wins
thats kinda wrong too, i won 2v1 while 2 dudes kept blocking me while i swung at them... blocking uses alot of stam, and i had mana to stam while they blocked and swung at me when i used mana to stam. they had no opertunity to cast mana to stam, else id kill em that much faster.
2h swords have a wider swing,
wrong, where do you people come up with this shit?
End Dream
03-19-2009, 08:02 PM
thats kinda wrong too, i won 2v1 while 2 dudes kept blocking me while i swung at them... blocking uses alot of stam, and i had mana to stam while they blocked and swung at me when i used mana to stam. they had no opertunity to cast mana to stam, else id kill em that much faster.
well they suck
KuraM
03-19-2009, 08:03 PM
wrong, where do you people come up with this shit?
actually not wrong, ive tested it both in town on stationary targets and from experience out in the field pvping.
KuraM
03-19-2009, 08:04 PM
well they suck
if you say so, ive never lost to a swordnboard.
Skraylok
03-19-2009, 08:06 PM
if you say so, ive never lost to a swordnboard.
clearly, you have either never fought one with a brain, or you dont swing randomly like ever other half witted pole arm user
actually not wrong, ive tested it both in town on stationary targets and from experience out in the field pvping.
the weapon is longer, its range is greater, yet it has a narrower radius than sword..... Your wrong man go do more "tests" :lmao:
klokateer #7829
03-19-2009, 08:10 PM
Yes, and their damage is the highest and their swing time is negligable since in real pvp, the amount of time between swings during a dance is best.
2h hammers do the highest damage...
Shaoz
03-19-2009, 08:11 PM
I just tested this with polearm vs sword and it has the same EXACT noticeable range.
Most of you people complaining about this haven't even tested it and only complain because you believe the idiots.
I went out of range and then tapped w slowly until I came into range, both the sword and polearm were able to hit at the furthest possible hitting range.
The 'Swipe' may be larger but that is a different test that I probably won't try to do as it will take more time.
Grognak
03-19-2009, 10:55 PM
Polearm is easy mode, with that the huge horizontal swipe I can take on superior numbers easily.
Sure, swords take less stam and hit more often (only in theory though, in PVP people trade hits more or less evenly as they dance), but the polearm guy does more damage so he wins.
Apocka
03-19-2009, 11:03 PM
hmm well polearm are the slowest of the 2hers but i mean it can be beaten...
but ya they r definetly op
and i use 2h axes for the record, and bows.
Speed doesnt matter when any skilled pvper uses jousting.
splixx
03-19-2009, 11:20 PM
Mount is OP
Viluin
03-19-2009, 11:51 PM
You fail in your statement once you said that polearms range is better.
My test = this.
2 people standing face to face.
One using a polearm.
Other using a 2h sword.
Both attacking each other as fast as they can.
1 min later stop attacking.
# of swings each person does = same.
Damage per swing = higher for polearm user.
Stamina used total = Polearm = .5 more per swing.
Any other questions?
In total polearm = better in all testing vs 2h sword.
Someone said about side swiping Ive not tested this so I cant say. If its a hitting issue, I say polearms from my exp have been easier to hit people then 2h sword.
More testing is needed on this topic but other factors are still in polearms favor greatly.
Other 2h weapons all fail due to lack of range and range in melee = huge factor.
2h swords swing faster than polearms. The polearm knockback is very dodgy when someone is moving, I've never seen it work at all unless someone was standing still or running away. When moving around, the 2h sword will swing more often. However, polearms still do way more DPS.
Piranha
03-20-2009, 12:20 AM
yeah i know i get flamed by all those that uses them, but you know its OP...so forget it, if you defend it your going to look retarded, make weapons more equal, some longer range, some wider range, som hit harder, some with Knock back, not ONE weapon that have it all, kind of.. anyone else agree?
thats because armor has the same protections vs all damage types, let players be free to choose their protections so that they can heavily guard them against piercing.
HippieOnLSD
03-20-2009, 02:49 AM
If you don't think polearms are overpowered then you have not played darkfall.
Darwoth
03-20-2009, 03:17 AM
polearm is by far the best weapon and choice for those that need a crutch.
1> highest damage by far. in pvp single hit burst damage is what matters, not pve sounds good on paper bullshit in the form of "dps"\
2> huge hit arc, it is impossible to miss your target using a polearm since a big 180 degree cone in front of your character that extends 6 feet is the hit zone. this is a drawback in group fighting, however i have been able to kill 4 and 5 people at once by myself by using a polearm since each swing was hitting almost every player and it was impossible to miss.
3> knockback. no, the knockback is not a drawback at all, the only folks that spout that nonsense are polearm users. the knockback fucks up the other players attacks, the knockback will temporarily stop movement on other players when fighting on uneven terrain, the knockback helps keep other players from being able to hit you when jousting.
4> longest range weapon, pretty self explanatory.
in my opinion leave polearms how they are but significantly reduce the hit arc, this would make them less overpowered and at the same time make them more viable in groups.
Wufiavelli
03-20-2009, 03:22 AM
Another possible solution not sure how it would work is make them have a minamum distance also. So if i am right next to you ya cannot hit me.
xpiher
03-20-2009, 04:13 AM
yeah i know i get flamed by all those that uses them, but you know its OP...so forget it, if you defend it your going to look retarded, make weapons more equal, some longer range, some wider range, som hit harder, some with Knock back, not ONE weapon that have it all, kind of.. anyone else agree?
No
Polearm<1h Sword and Shield
I easily beat polearms with 2h sword.
The DPS on a 2h sword is nearly twice that of a polearm most of the time. Just stick on them like glue.
If anything, just buff 2h axe and club. They need the most help IMO.
CountValor
03-20-2009, 05:19 AM
I like the damage and the range on the 2h sword and polearm. Personally I think that the 2h axe and the 2h mace are very underpowered for the lack of range they have.
LOL why complain when the game is so new? Maybe with the attacks you unlock knife gets OP its to early to say…
I think Archery is good as hell atm but that’s because I die to archers more then other I still can’t say that they are OP other builds might think archers are cannon fodder.
Let’s play the game and as long as we have no “1hitkill” or “I win button” give it some time b4 crying for nerf.
Calligan
03-20-2009, 01:23 PM
You guy forgot to mention something very important ! :lmao:
The stamina drain to other , the polearm got the best stam drain to other , that mean even if your are blocking with your shield you are screwed ( parry use stam as well and it use stam exactly the same way if you were shotting with your 1h weap) ! i tested it , blocking with the shield it a good way to escape (backward not so good even if the shield parry working when somebody hitting on your back the damage is Half the front damage withouth parrying). So the shield can be good as well to wait for backup when you facing multiple ennemy . I have tried almost all weapon starting with dagger ( waste of skill if you asking me ).
Dagger got the best dps on paper, but in the reality they are the worst weapon for pvp , 2h sword got the best dps compared to 2haxe and 2 h hammer , but 2hsword is still crap compared with polearm. Bow is the best weapon but it a ranged weapon , polearm should be nerfed ... anyway now im training it i have almost all melee skill now, if you starting dfo just dont waste your time usepolarm , the the only viable weapon on this game in pvp.
Big swipe, big alpha damage , big Stam drain to other, even if you are circling around like a mad chicken , i saw a lot of people who dont even know to target, winning fight with this weapon.
I was facing a naked guy with this kind of weapon and despite i was wearing a good armor , a 2h sword , switching for shield 1h axe.
This guy managed to almost kill me .
Nicholai Pestot
03-20-2009, 02:17 PM
Giving polearms a minimum range would fix the problem.
jahosefat
03-20-2009, 03:17 PM
yes, not slow enough attack imo. that along with the high damage and high range/arc makes them OP
Viluin
03-20-2009, 05:32 PM
I easily beat polearms with 2h sword.
The DPS on a 2h sword is nearly twice that of a polearm most of the time. Just stick on them like glue.
If anything, just buff 2h axe and club. They need the most help IMO.
Lol, this is not true. Noob sword vs. Noob polearm = polearm does WAY more DPS, and I don't see why it would be different for higher ranked weapons. I was wearing 8 pieces of banded armor with a noob greatsword vs some guy in random leather/chain and a noob polearm, and I was still going down faster than him. This was in very closed quarters so we were trading blows.
Narcowski
03-20-2009, 05:36 PM
Lol, this is not true. Noob sword vs. Noob polearm = polearm does WAY more DPS, and I don't see why it would be different for higher ranked weapons. I was wearing 8 pieces of banded armor with a noob greatsword vs some guy in random leather/chain and a noob polearm, and I was still going down faster than him. This was in very closed quarters so we were trading blows.
Noob daggers outdps the polearm.
Viluin
03-20-2009, 05:38 PM
Noob daggers outdps the polearm.
If they hit something.
pap3rninj4
03-20-2009, 05:42 PM
This discussion is so incorrect, I hope none of this has any effect on game balance.
Jas-demi
03-20-2009, 05:47 PM
I have no problems beating Polearm users with my Greatsword. l2p.
Viluin
03-20-2009, 05:52 PM
I have no problems beating Polearm users with my Greatsword. l2p.
Neither do I, but it's still a fact that polearms do more damage per second than greatswords while having the same reach and a wider swing arc. That's a bad case of unbalance. The range and swing make sense, it's the damage that is causing the problem.
The only reason I use greatswords is because I hate the knockback on polearms. Other than that there really is no reason to use greatswords, polearms are better in every way.
Deveon
03-20-2009, 06:01 PM
do not agree.
that is all
Rodhull
03-20-2009, 06:48 PM
Anyone who doesnt agree is either stupid or is a polearm user.
I appreciate since i played beta things may have been tweaked a bit here and there balance wise, but from what ive read not a great deal.
In beta id say the serious pvp people all used the following weapon set ups (in melee) in descending order of popularity (best first)
- Polearms
- 2H swords (not far behind)
- 1H swords and shield
- 2H Axes
- Everything else
Note everything else well basically i rarely EVER saw anyone using anything other than the top 4.
Polearms are overpowered period. They need a nerf or everything else needs some love working from daggers then hammers and axes.
Viluin
03-20-2009, 07:01 PM
Anyone who doesnt agree is either stupid or is a polearm user.
I appreciate since i played beta things may have been tweaked a bit here and there balance wise, but from what ive read not a great deal.
In beta id say the serious pvp people all used the following weapon set ups (in melee) in descending order of popularity (best first)
- Polearms
- 2H swords (not far behind)
- 1H swords and shield
- 2H Axes
- Everything else
Note everything else well basically i rarely EVER saw anyone using anything other than the top 4.
Polearms are overpowered period. They need a nerf or everything else needs some love working from daggers then hammers and axes.
In all of release I've seen exactly one person who used a 2h axe, and one person who used a hammer. I killed them both. Never saw anyone use a mace. Seen a few people with knives but they always switched to 2h weapons in mid-battle when they realized knives were stupid.
Rodhull
03-20-2009, 08:05 PM
In all of release I've seen exactly one person who used a 2h axe, and one person who used a hammer. I killed them both. Never saw anyone use a mace. Seen a few people with knives but they always switched to 2h weapons in mid-battle when they realized knives were stupid.
Doesnt surprise me, id imagine the only reason i saw as many as i did was cause i rolled an ork, and everyone seemed to pick 2h axes cause the ork on the launch screen had one probably lol (me included)
But i soon realised polearms were the way to go and never looked back.
Calligan
03-20-2009, 08:15 PM
Anyone who doesnt agree is either stupid or is a polearm user.
I appreciate since i played beta things may have been tweaked a bit here and there balance wise, but from what ive read not a great deal.
In beta id say the serious pvp people all used the following weapon set ups (in melee) in descending order of popularity (best first)
- Polearms
- 2H swords (not far behind)
- 1H swords and shield
- 2H Axes
- Everything else
Note everything else well basically i rarely EVER saw anyone using anything other than the top 4.
Polearms are overpowered period. They need a nerf or everything else needs some love working from daggers then hammers and axes.
I agree with you , i think polearm should only be used in vertical mode , and have a very small horizontal swipe.
Shaoz
03-20-2009, 08:18 PM
I agree with you , i think polearm should only be used in vertical mode , and have a very small horizontal swipe.
Yeah and completely annihilate the weapon. Swiping is what this game is about in melee combat. lol
Euseka
03-20-2009, 08:30 PM
i use a polearm and if i had the choice now i'd have used a 2h sword instead, significantly faster swings = significantly faster skill gain and considering 75 is where its at for weapons... yea
edit: that said, 75 polearms should be pretty sweet
Kid Steeze
03-20-2009, 08:37 PM
agreed polearms are over powered and with all these speedhackers makes it even gayer lower the damage on Pole arms is agreed with.
valerion
03-20-2009, 09:27 PM
I think the reason why so many people would deem polearms as OP is because most pvp encounters deal with a polearm user. Being one myself, I wouldn't say they are OP at all. Just like any other weapon in the game, it has all to due with timing. I can rock other polearm people the easiest of all other weapons because their so slow compared to others.
I find fighting against sword and board as the toughest of all weps. I think the weapons are balanced for the most part.
k, who fucking cares if they are slow, a blind deaf retarded monkey could hit someone with it.
Not only that, this thread is so fail why does every other weapon require the other person to be skilled when facing polearms rofl how do you not see something wrong with that.
po users: a skilled person with sword/board can sometimes kill me i can kill everyone else though so its fair.
how bout adding a unique trait to each weapon why the hell does polearms get something and no other weapons get anything extra
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