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Shiladie
03-19-2009, 04:41 AM
Currently knives are underpowered in PvP. They are the fasted weakest weapon, and require 2-hands to use, meaning we must look at them in comparison to the other 2-handed weapons, not the 1 handed weapons. In PvE they do normal amounts of damage because you are able to sit next to your target wailing away, making use of the fast attack speed. In PvP, you are not sitting next to your opponent, hitting on every cooldown; you are instead getting a hit every 3-4 seconds when you get an opportunity as you run and dodge around. What this means for daggers vs other melee weapons is that when you're fighting somebody, you get less hits in compared to them, due to your short reach, as well as your weapon doing less damage to them on each of the hits you do get.

Full plate wearing dagger fighters are hardly an archtype, in fact breaking from any kind of real or fantasy world norms. What needs to be done is to at the same time, increase dagger's use in PvP, as well as giving them an incentive to wear lighter armour.

However we do not want players who do not yet have access to the higher levels of armour doing unproportionally better then somebody else at their gear level because he uses daggers. In this way I came up with the following solution.

Increase the effectiveness of the Knife mastery skill, gained at 75 knife skill, by an extreme amount, but then have it be negatively affected by encumbrance. If the numbers are worked right, you can make the sweet spot right around studded leather armour, fulfilling the archtypical knife fighter role.

This would result in a much squishier character capable of dealing large amounts of damage at very close range, something that if balanced right can add a lot to the game.

An additional different change that I don't think would be out of line to give to knives would be to increase the damage the knife power attack does by 2-3x when striking somebody from from behind, making for a very effective weapon to have when you are behind the enemy lines with the casters.

If anyone else has anything to add to this or reasons why it it a horrible idea please post it!

Shiladie
03-25-2009, 08:33 PM
http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=165835&page=3
cross-linking to the thread about changes to all the weapons