If not Darkfall then where for RP?

[Wanwo]

I still have hope for this game but I've decided I need to look for a backup. Currently considering:

Lotro
Chronicles of Spellborn

Any advice appreciated.

[Kid Steeze]

Ultima Online is a classic but they have some hardcore RP servers out there that I would recommend if your not into darkfall

[Parat]

Hmmm, depends on what you want

If you want to focus on RP very heavily, then your valid options are

Neverwinter Nights 2
Neverwinter Nights 1
Ultima Online

(Actually, the ranking is intentional, as UO servers have one problem nowadays ... theyre built for more people than you can each nowadays. It is very sad, that the playes for good RP are thinning out qickly)

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If you want to play an MMORPG with an occasional bit of RP here and there, then

LOTRO
Spellborn
Final Fantasy

Dont expect too much.

[Niles]

Tabletop or LARP.

[Sturmrabe]

Why did you are ANYONE thing DFO would welcome or support ANY form of RP?

[Tyx]

Why did you are ANYONE thing DFO would welcome or support ANY form of RP?
If I'm right about you were trying to say: "Why did you or anyone think DFO would welcome or support ANY from of RP?" then I can answer you.
What is Darkfall?
Darkfall is a next generation Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game (MMORPG)

:rolleyes:

[Alavar0]

Bah, Darkfall isn't an MMORPG, its a MMOFPS, with skills there to make you think that you are doing something to help yourself. /sarcoff

[[O]_Fawkes]

Tabletop or LARP.

Yeah, I'd rather go to Dagohir than play any of the games currently out right now.

WoW RP is strictly to the forums, it can't be done in game.

And the other games are pretty much dead, there's not much RPing possible in today's MMOs.

[Staje]

I thought That they where going to set up a RP sever? Guess not meh. Unfortunately i cant say for sure because they wont sell any more coppies of there damn game...

[Razortide]

Your character gets better over time; any game which includes character progression is called a role playing game. It's a definition of the genre itself. MMOFPS would be Battlefield, CoD something like that. Thats a MMOFPS with role playing elements in it.
Crafting is something found solely in RPGs (if you forget simulations for a sec since there you rarely create your goods by yourself).
And finally player interaction. In CoD you come in, you shoot and if you are a dull person you insult your enemies and your teammates.

In MMORPGs there are so much more possibilities to interact with you surroundings. I don't like being killed just to loot me; I remember in UO I was farming rare ore when a guy came to me called me and told me to give him the stuff I was farming; I gave it and he left me there. It doesn't seem like a situation worth remembering but this was a guy famed for not being a RPer but a PK instead it was pretty cool and afterwards we became good friends.
I think the possibilities in socializing are the lifeblood of MMORPGs. If you play a MMORPG and you don't think socializinf is important I think you don't understand whats the point is...

Topic: Since every MMORPG features many possibilities to socialize you simply need a bunch of friends to play with you, the game itself doesn't matter at all.

[Eldaran]

It is possible to RP in Darkfall. Find a guild that will have an RP alliance with another guild of opposite alliance. You guys can wage wars against eachother and do whatever you want. It will still be fun and you can RP all the while through it.

[Macetotheface]

Just LARP theres all the rp u need and its FREE!!!WEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!

[Wicked11]

MORTAL ONLINE

Link: http://www.mortalonline.com/

Looks pretty good.


Other than that you pretty much have to fall back to older games for a few years, or learn a new sport/hobby :P

[gworeloth]

I still have hope for this game but I've decided I need to look for a backup. Currently considering:

Lotro
Chronicles of Spellborn

Any advice appreciated.

Have u looked at http://www.ryzom.com/

[Ozzibooi]

www.sa-mp.com or www.mtasa.com

Also checkout www.handoflaw.com

[chaOxz]

Go runescape

[Suraknar]

Darkfall does not have much of RP support right now...I am not in since launch but was in beta, and it really doe snot make it easy for the kind of role play most people expect.

This game has created so much word of mouth over the years, and now it is losing it because no one was pro-active enough to say "hey guys I think we will have more than 5k subscribers at launch, maybe we should make sure we can handle the load on our servers, account management, billing system etc"...

But no, it had to be secret because it is supposed to be something revolutionary...the truth is it is a fun game, but it is far from being fully featured with the little things that make a difference, unfortunately such one thing is proper chat support for Role Play interaction...for some reason they thought that people would role play with Vent or TS...go figure.

In other words...it is bland when it comes to Role Play, it is exciting for many other aspects the combat/Crafting/PvP mechanics/Skill system..but they seem to not understand that all these things mean nothing or rather are of secondary importance if you can't meaningfully immerse yourself in the world.

And one of the first ways to do so is how one can interact with others part of this world through means of communication...a Chat box for your Side or the Wider Area is not such a means...

So at this time it is all about plain mechanics...like a drawing without colors...no real life...and it may need another year of development (in my opinion) to reach that level.

In the mean time all that people do right now is Raise skills gather materials...lay the mechanical foundation in other words...waiting for the moment when the game is sufficiently garnished with the little things that make the difference.

[Dorgain]

Go runescape

Lol.

[IwannabeaMahirm]

Final Fantasy

What? FFXI (if that's what you're talking about) has the most nonexistent RP community out of any MMO I've ever seen. LOTRO's a good one, though.

[ninogan]

Why did you are ANYONE thing DFO would welcome or support ANY form of RP?

This. This game isn't really made for RP'ers which is to bad I like to RP.

I would suggest a UO RP Shard or Neverwinter Nights 1 or 2 which has great fanmade online games for RP.

[Kusghuul]

UO doesn't have RP shards, at least not the ones we're allowed to discuss. Europa shard has the majority of RP these days though, but it's not exactly CoY standards anymore, as you can't go PKing RPers with your orc without people screaming at you for ruining the game for them.

[Parat]

_Fawkes;3075164']And the other games are pretty much dead, there's not much RPing possible in today's MMOs.
True ... but I will elaborate, cause I know someone's gonna say "you can RP in every environment", which is also true.^^

In any MMORPG you can form a group and RP with each other. Actually, there isnt much of a difference between the games. Oh yes, one game might feature housing which is undoubtedly nice for such a group. And the other one might feature skills instead of levels, which is also nice. But in its core, 95% of your rp fun will come from which people you play with, not the game you play on. You are using the game as a technical platform for your RPing, which is okay.

You will never know what you are missing, if you didnt play some games, specifically designed for RPing (or UO in its early times, cause the whole internet community at these days was different). You are playing your own mini game within a greater MMORPG. Actually, most of the time you wont even play a MMORPG in a stricter sense, cause you are not willing to interact with 95% of the people because they dont cater for your play style. You will see others run by, thats all. Okay, in DFO they might also attack you, so the level of interactivity is much higher. You are forced to interact. I'm not really sure whether it is a good thing or a bad thing. Probably neutral, cause there are advantages and disadvantages.

Anyhow, this quality of RP you will probably find in DFO. Form a guld or join one, and RP.

For anything more, for anything that comes closer to a world that is somehow .. living, for interaction between al the people (even if interaction only means *ignores the guy*), you are looking in the wrong genre of games. MMORPGs are no roleplaying games under THAT definition (yes, you have skills and attributes and such, so they are RPGs in that respect). And it doenst matter, which game you try. Sure, there will be marginal differences, and one might be a bit better suited than another, but for RP in that direction "living world", each one is utterly senseless.

Mortal Online
DFO
LOTRO
StarWars Galaxies

Yon can name any of these, and none will suit your taste, if you are looking for more than forming a guild and RP with each other. For anyone else, just pick the MMORPG you like. I wont argue that they can be fun in other aspects.

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I would suggest a UO RP Shard or Neverwinter Nights 1 or 2 which has great fanmade online games for RP.
QFT. I dont care too much if UO Freeshards are legal. That game is super-old.^^ NWN shards are legal.

[Parat]

MORTAL ONLINE

Link: http://www.mortalonline.com/

Looks pretty good.
To me, it looks like refusal to learn from experiences. I think MO will be just the same like here.

[Hluill]

Wow, so many experts on something that has no rules or even guidelines. I can only speak for myself. As seen here, people's expereinces with RP are vast and various and conflicting.

I have RP'ed in every MMO I have ever played. In a sense, we all do. Even soloing, I am playing a character. I choose to interact with the game enviroment the way I imagine my character would. I do the same with other characters I encounter. In fact, my toons typically avoid the "hard-core RPers" because too many times they are wrapped up in chat-driven drama.

If I ever get to play this game, I expect my approach to be the same.

[Parat]

Wow, so many experts on something that has no rules or even guidelines. I can only speak for myself. As seen here, people's expereinces with RP are vast and various and conflicting.

I have RP'ed in every MMO I have ever played. In a sense, we all do. Even soloing, I am playing a character. I choose to interact with the game enviroment the way I imagine my character would. I do the same with other characters I encounter. In fact, my toons typically avoid the "hard-core RPers" because too many times they are wrapped up in chat-driven drama.

If I ever get to play this game, I expect my approach to be the same.
Actually, you're saying the same as me, you just do it in another way. You dont roleplay with "hardcore RPers". I dont know if you do "chat RP" at all, and every way you choose is okay for me, even if you dont care.

Your approach to RP is MMORPG-compatible. What I meant is basically "find people you want to play with and RP with them the way you want". If you're finde with that, RP in an MMORPG is the right thing for you. If your group consists of only you (I dont assume that this is your style), then this is okay also.

But .. if you wish for a world where everyone plays a role in the world, and where everyone interacts, and wheere every action is based on RP, and where the world can be rather dynamic, cause actions of one player will later on influence other players, even if theyre not within one group, then MMORPG is the wrong genre of games.

And this is where most disappointment of RPers come from. They have expectations or hopes or dreams that overstretch what the MMORPG genre nowadays can offer. UO was something diffrent, but only because of socioeconomic differences: Yes, there you were able to interact with 80% of the people, but the internet community has changed since then, and this feeling you will never get again in a modern game. Therefore, you will have to switch genres.

For everyone else, DFO or MO or LOTRO or whatever MMORPG you chose can be the right game, cause your expectations are realistic. And then, good luck finding the right people and fining a game that suits you in terms of graphiics, setting and such.

[Wingy]

I'd say Lotro, I been in MANY online games but never ever I been so content about RP and its general gameplay as in Lotro :D

[bodangly]

In other words...it is bland when it comes to Role Play, it is exciting for many other aspects the combat/Crafting/PvP mechanics/Skill system..but they seem to not understand that all these things mean nothing or rather are of secondary importance if you can't meaningfully immerse yourself in the world.



Are you serious? Get a clue, most people playing are having a blast. The immersion is fucking fantastic, when sprinting from tree to tree to not get seen by an enemy, or atop a mountain scouting out the hamlet at the bottom I really feel apart of a world.

Maybe YOU are having difficulty getting immersed, thats a personal problem.

I have RPd in chat rooms before, I really find it pathetic to whine about this game's immersion or potential for RP. The only thing missing is the RPers actually organizing so they can find each other. That is NOT the game's fault.

In summary, you lose Forumfall.

[Suraknar]

Are you serious? Get a clue, most people playing are having a blast. The immersion is fucking fantastic, when sprinting from tree to tree to not get seen by an enemy, or atop a mountain scouting out the hamlet at the bottom I really feel apart of a world.

Maybe YOU are having difficulty getting immersed, thats a personal problem.

I have RPd in chat rooms before, I really find it pathetic to whine about this game's immersion or potential for RP. The only thing missing is the RPers actually organizing so they can find each other. That is NOT the game's fault.

In summary, you lose Forumfall.

You can't lose when your not in it for the win.

I am expressing my opinions based on my experience in Beta and the experiences a 3rd of my guild has had thus far since release.

So, not talking out of my hat and yes I do have a clue.

We are talking about Role Play interaction here, not being immersed in the environment of one's own thrill bubble.

The game achieves personal immersion to a degree, but presently that ends there.

The most successfull Clans that are waging the wars and sieges...you just have to watch their videos to understand that there isn' any role playing happening.

it is about Them vs US and US vs Them..it is about Coordination, and tactics, it is about mechanics, personal and team skill..but that is it....is it fun? Yes it is fun, people are laughing and having agood time in vent...there is no Role Play immersion however...

[Warfrog]

In my opinion the lack of organisation of roleplayers actually is the games or the developers fault. If there was at least an official RP-Server, even without any special ruleset, roleplayers would have easy to find and organise themselfs. First, not every future player is in the forums, so it will be pretty hard to organise. I ask me if it would be to much for Aventurine to just write (RP) behind on of the european servers.
Second, if they would at least make only the slightest try to make it look as they would care about roleplayers, interested players of other games would stay interested. Most of them (of the ones whom I know, to edit it correctly^^) actually turn away from DF, simply because the game and its developers seem not to turn towards them.

[Warfrog]

And for that, they´ll lose many players, for there are even many who make no or little roleplay but are via guilds in other games closely related to roleplayers. And without them, even the non.rp´ers will not leave the games they now play.

[KameZero]

There's always Planeshift (www.planeshift.it) Which is a mainly RP MMO. I don't really know if it's any good but I do know it's fully RP. As in, you HAVE to roleplay.

[Suraknar]

There's always Planeshift (www.planeshift.it) Which is a mainly RP MMO. I don't really know if it's any good but I do know it's fully RP. As in, you HAVE to roleplay.

This looks interesting, will give it a try, thanks. Will give me something to explore till AV decides to open up DFO.

[lunchbox101]

if u like ur quite old skool mmorpg's then play this it complete free http://totalmir.go-forum.net/index.htm its a legend of mir server

[adrazzer]

I still have hope for this game but I've decided I need to look for a backup. Currently considering:

Lotro
Chronicles of Spellborn

Any advice appreciated.

Come and Join the Yew Militia, we constantly role play in DFO even in clan chat the generals and majors only allow in character chat, we have currently around 60-70 members and our own keep on Ice isle

[Adriel_]

Forget the Yew Militia, have you considered roleplaying a dinosaur?

[Parat]

There's always Planeshift (www.planeshift.it) Which is a mainly RP MMO. I don't really know if it's any good but I do know it's fully RP. As in, you HAVE to roleplay.
Tried it .... erm nope ... still NWN 1 / 2 for full-RP. :-)

[vv01f]

If you want to try something new and Roleplay in a modern-day setting with real life elements rather than a medieval themed magical world, and you own a copy of GTA San Andreas, you might want to download SA-MP (www.sa-mp.com) and look for an RP server.

Personally I would suggest www.sf-rp.us

Wolf