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[LoD] EE
02-12-2009, 07:32 PM
AUSTIN -- Texas officials are working on a plan to respond to a potential collapse of the Mexican government and the specter of thousands fleeing north in fear for their lives after recent reports indicated the country could be on the verge of chaos.

"You hope for the best, plan for the worst," Katherine Cesinger, spokeswoman for Gov. Rick Perry, said last week. "At this point, we've got a contingency plan that's in development."

Late last year the U.S. Department of Defense issued a report that listed Pakistan and Mexico as countries that could rapidly collapse. The report came after similar alarms sounded by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security and former U.S. drug czar Barry McCaffrey.

"I think their fears are well-grounded," Texas Home land Security Director Steve McCraw told lawmakers recently at a border security briefing.

Lawmakers expressed concern that the state's southern neighbor, embroiled in drug violence and facing uncertain economic conditions, could send thousands north in search of safety.

State Sen. Dan Patrick, R-Sugarland, asked McCraw at the meeting whether Texas had a plan to cope with such a situation.

"We have a preliminary plan," McCraw said. "There needs to be one in place."

McCraw, a Perry appointee, was unavailable to comment for this story, but Cesinger said the plan was in early stages. It now deals with only law enforcement concerns, she said, and not any potential crush of humanitarian needs the state might face if thousands of refugees flood across the border. "That might be something that comes into consideration as it's developed," Cesinger said.

Destabilization in Mexico might be only a remote possibility, but lawmakers said preparing for any potential disaster is prudent.

State Sen. John Carona, R-Dallas, said Texas should plan to deal with not only security concerns but also basic needs refugees would have for housing, health care and food.

"It seems very far-fetched that something like this could occur," he said. "At the same time, I think it would be naive to believe it's impossible."

El Paso Democratic state Sen. Eliot Shapleigh said El Paso is already seeing refugees from the violence in Juárez.

More than 1,600 died in the drug violence there last year, and the bloodbath continues. More than 200 people have been slain so far this year.

Nearly 50 victims of the violence in Juárez were shuttled to Thomason Hospital for treatment last year. And Shapleigh said many people from Juárez who can afford to are moving north to El Paso.

Developing a contingency plan to deal with a potential Mexican downfall makes sense, he said.

"Better to investigate, examine and plan now, rather than make ad hoc decisions later," Shapleigh said.

Tony Payan, a political science professor at the University of Texas at El Paso, said Mexico is nowhere near the brink of demise.

Problems in Mexico are serious, he said, but the nodes of violence are concentrated in specific areas of the country and primarily involve the warring drug cartels.

"I am standing on campus in Ciudad Juárez now," Payan said Thursday. "Students are working, students are going to class, people are shopping."

Developing a plan to cope with a disaster south of the border was not a bad idea, Payan said.

But Texas could do more to help prevent a catastrophe in Mexico, he said, by working with state and local officials in that country to reinforce their governments.

While federal officials in the U.S. and Mexico often work together, Payan said, state and local leaders with firsthand knowledge of the problems often mistrust one another and fail to collaborate to deal with their mutual concerns.

"Often we want to solve the problems with the border as if they stopped at the international line," Payan said, "and they do not."

Niles
02-12-2009, 07:35 PM
Invade them allready, damnit!

Rourke
02-12-2009, 07:43 PM
Machine gun nests ftw.

Threven
02-12-2009, 07:50 PM
Should have just annexed them the first time we were down there.

Sabbathius
02-12-2009, 07:52 PM
Ah, yes, another ploy to distract the population while they raise the taxes... :rolleyes:

Dogmadude720
02-12-2009, 08:52 PM
This, being a native Texan, worries me even further.

Aacevedo
02-12-2009, 08:57 PM
Mexico maybe should craft a plan for US collapse? :ninja:

Chankeen
02-12-2009, 09:10 PM
Mexico maybe should craft a plan for US collapse? :ninja:

Canada is working on one.

Zinsane
02-12-2009, 09:13 PM
Machine gun nests ftw.

yes

Lysandor
02-12-2009, 09:22 PM
Eveyone, to your Chevy Novas!

Carl Ragadamn
02-12-2009, 09:24 PM
Eveyone, to your Chevy Novas!

Hey I loved my 72 Nova in Highschool.

I Eat Children
02-12-2009, 10:09 PM
Canada is working on one.

The US has a plan for every nation collapse in the world it seems, all this fucking humanitarian work.

Carl Ragadamn
02-12-2009, 10:38 PM
The US has a plan for every nation collapse in the world it seems, all this fucking humanitarian work.

We like to be busy and all up in everyones business.

IYIike
02-12-2009, 11:28 PM
andale! andale!

Desperado[1G]
02-12-2009, 11:36 PM
I want some of that stiumulus money to go to a moat of fire, complete with alligators w/ lasers on their heads

tallefred
02-12-2009, 11:36 PM
Source please?

Carl Ragadamn
02-12-2009, 11:38 PM
;2672140']I want some of that stiumulus money to go to a moat of fire, complete with alligators w/ lasers on their heads

Why not we are funding projects far more crazy.

Macetotheface
02-12-2009, 11:46 PM
No no no.Texas should buy mexico.Hell 50% of them are here now.If we buy it we can start the republic of Texas and become a nation that treat the people as they are Freemen.Unlike the slaves we are in the USA.

Seesawmcgraw
02-12-2009, 11:51 PM
We should just go Vietnamese on their ass

Burmese Tiger Pits and other booby traps involving spikes covered in feces

George Lopez even said that Mexicans don't go to the hospital even when they get real sick

As long as it isn't the land owner laying the traps there is no American to arrest "well i own hundreds of acres of land and these booby traps being laid by strangers show an advanced understanding of the principles camouflage so there isn't really anything i can do accept keep my eyes open for these no good trap layers now there have been some local Mexicans who offered to remove these traps free of charge but I won't let them on my land"

heroshade
02-12-2009, 11:58 PM
I think Mexico is the only place where a police action is necessary. We don't need any refugees running up here. Of course, we'll probably just be pussies, say "C'mon over!", and watch as the criminals hiding amongst the victims come hopping over the fence.

Salardc
02-13-2009, 12:02 AM
What Mr. Garrison Always said...

Toxic Waste
02-13-2009, 12:09 AM
EE;2669420']AUSTIN -- Canada officials are working on a plan to respond to a potential collapse of the US government and the specter of thousands fleeing north in fear for their lives after recent reports indicated the country could be on the verge of chaos.

"You hope for the best, plan for the worst," said Mapleleaf Syrup, spokeswoman for Gov. Allover Mipancakes, said last week. "At this point, we've got a contingency plan that's in development."

Late last year the Canada Department of People on Bicycles with Slingshots issued a report that listed Pakistan and Mexico and the US as countries that could rapidly collapse. The report came after similar alarms sounded by the Canada Department of More People On Bicycles with Slingshots and former U.S. drug czar Barry McCaffrey.

"I think their fears are well-grounded," Canada Home land Security Director Steve McCraw told lawmakers recently at a border security briefing.

Lawmakers expressed concern that the state's southern neighbor, embroiled in drug violence and facing uncertain economic conditions, could send thousands north in search of safety.

State Sen. Dan Patrick, R-Sugarland, asked McCraw at the meeting whether Canada had a plan to cope with such a situation.

"We have a preliminary plan," McCraw said. "There needs to be one in place."

McCraw, a Perry appointee, was unavailable to comment for this story, but Cesinger said the plan was in early stages. It now deals with only law enforcement concerns, she said, and not any potential crush of humanitarian needs the state might face if thousands of refugees flood across the border. "That might be something that comes into consideration as it's developed," Cesinger said.

Destabilization in the United States might be only a VERY REAL AND SCARY possibility, but lawmakers said preparing for any potential disaster is prudent.

State Sen. John Canucka, said Canada should plan to deal with not only security concerns but also basic needs refugees would have for housing, health care and food.

"It seems very far-fetched that something like this could occur," he said. "At the same time, I think it would be naive to believe it's impossible."

A-Land state Sen. Eliot Shapleigh said A-Land is already seeing refugees from the violence in Phoenix because the Cardinals lost the superbowl lol.

More than 1,600 died in the drug violence there last year, and the bloodbath continues. More than 200 people have been slain so far this year.

Nearly 50 victims of the violence in Phoenix were shuttled to [derogatory remark about Canada] Hospital for treatment last year. And Shapleigh said many people from Phoenix who can afford to are moving north to Toronto.

Developing a contingency plan to deal with a potential American downfall makes sense, he said.

"Better to investigate, examine and plan now, rather than make ad hoc decisions later," Shap-a said.

Tony Payan, a political science professor at the University of Canada at Toronto, said YOU AMERICANS ARE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!!

Problems in Mexico are serious, he said, but THE WORLD IS ENDING!

"I am standing on campus in Ciudad Juárez now," Payan said Thursday. "Students are dying, students are going to still dying, people are having unprotected sex."

Developing a plan to cope with a disaster south of the border was not a bad idea, Payan said.

But Canada could do more to help prevent a catastrophe in the US, he said, by working with state and local officials in that country to reinforce their governments.

While federal officials in the Canada and the US often work together, Payan said, state and local leaders with firsthand knowledge of the problems often mistrust one another and fail to collaborate to deal with their mutual concerns.

"Often we want to solve the problems with the border as if they stopped at the international line," Payan said, "and they do not."

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