Clown Car Vagina

[[LoD] EE]

LOS ANGELES (AP) - A big share of the financial burden of raising Nadya Suleman's 14 children could fall on the shoulders of California's taxpayers, compounding the public furor in a state already billions of dollars in the red.

Even before the 33-year-old single, unemployed mother gave birth to octuplets last month, she had been caring for her six other children with the help of $490 a month in food stamps, plus Social Security disability payments for three of the youngsters. The public aid will almost certainly be increased with the new additions to her family.

Also, the hospital where the octuplets are expected to spend seven to 12 weeks has requested reimbursement from Medi-Cal, the state's Medicaid program, for care of the premature babies, according to the Los Angeles Times. The cost has not been disclosed.

Word of the public assistance has stoked the furor over Suleman's decision to have so many children by having embryos implanted in her womb.

"It appears that, in the case of the Suleman family, raising 14 children takes not simply a village but the combined resources of the county, state and federal governments," Los Angeles Times columnist Tim Rutten wrote in Wednesday's paper. He called Suleman's story "grotesque."

On the Internet, bloggers rained insults on Suleman, calling her an "idiot," criticizing her decision to have more children when she couldn't afford the ones she had, and suggesting she be sterilized.

"It's my opinion that a woman's right to reproduce should be limited to a number which the parents can pay for," Charles Murray wrote in a letter to the Los Angeles Daily News. "Why should my wife and I, as taxpayers, pay child support for 14 Suleman kids?"

She was also berated on talk radio, where listeners accused her of manipulating the system and being an irresponsible mother.

"From the outside you can tell that this woman was playing the system," host Bryan Suits said on the "Kennedy and Suits" show on KFI-AM. "You're damn right the state should step in and seize the kids and adopt them out."

A call to Suleman's publicist Mike Furtney was not immediately returned.

In her only media interviews, Suleman told NBC's "Today" she doesn't consider the public assistance she receives to be welfare and doesn't intend to remain on it for long.

Also, a Nadya Suleman Family Web Site has been set up to collect donations for the children. It features pictures of the mother and each octuplet and has instructions for making donations by check or credit card.

Suleman, whose six older children range in age from 2 to 7, said three of them receive disability payments. She said one is autistic, but she has not disclosed the other youngsters' disabilities, and refused to say how much they get in payments.

In California, a low-income family can receive Social Security payments of up to $793 a month for each disabled child. Three children would amount to $2,379.

The Suleman octuplets' medical costs have not been disclosed, but in 2006, the average cost for a premature baby's hospital stay in California was $164,273, according to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. The average cost for just one cesarean birth in 2006 was $22,762 in California. Eight times that equals $1.3 million.

For a single mother, the cost of raising 14 children through age 17 ranges from $1.3 million to $2.7 million, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture.

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who is struggling to close a $42 billion budget gap by cutting services, declined through a spokesman to comment on the taxpayer costs associated with the octuplets' delivery and care.

Suleman received disability payments for an on-the-job back injury during a riot at a state mental hospital, collecting more than $165,000 over nearly a decade before the benefits were discontinued last year.

Some of the disability money was spent on in vitro fertilizations, which was used for all 14 of her children, Suleman said. Suleman said she also worked double shifts at the mental hospital and saved up for the treatments. She estimated that all her treatments cost $100,000.

A dozen states, including California, have laws requiring insurance companies to cover infertility treatment, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. But California does not require insurers to cover in vitro procedures. It's not clear what type of coverage Suleman has.

In the NBC interview, Suleman said she will go back to California State University, Fullerton in the fall to complete her master's degree in counseling, and will use student loans to support her children. She said she will rely on the school's daycare center and volunteers.

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I hope they take the kids and cut out her uterus. This is complete bullshit. She is no better than these illegal immigrants coming to the US to have their children on the American Citizens dime.

[Mordhak]

Wait... octuplets? She had 8 kids at once?

[Threven]

Wait... octuplets? She had 8 kids at once?

That is correct.

[Someone]

Wait... octuplets? She had 8 kids at once?

Yes, and that's after she had already had 6 other kids. Oh and she's single, no male included in the process except for a sperm donor, if it was legal I bet she would have demanded that they used her own cells to inseminate the eggs.

But I'm dissappointed in this thread. I thought it was gonna be about some humorous porn with clown makeup and a whole lot of stretching.

[[LoD] EE]

But I'm dissappointed in this thread. I thought it was gonna be about some humorous porn with clown makeup and a whole lot of stretching.

I didnt feel the need to bring your mom up in this topic, sorry. :D

[shock223]

EE;2668461']Suleman received disability payments for an on-the-job back injury during a riot at a state mental hospital, collecting more than $165,000 over nearly a decade before the benefits were discontinued last year.


sounds like the loons were running the nuthouse.

[Rourke]

This woman is a frigging nightmare. EXACTLY the reason some people should not be allowed to breed.

She can't even raise these stupid fucking kids. If she was in China, all these monsters would be killed.

[DeadlyHit]

I say she should pop another 10 out for moar money...

[Someone]

EE;2668579']I didnt feel the need to bring your mom up in this topic, sorry. :D

Oh ok. It's cool then, honestly bringing her into it would make people cut their own balls off from the sheer horror.

[Badem]

considering she had 8 children from in-vitro it is looking very likely that the clinic that did it is going to be under some VERY intense scrutiny

In-Vitro laws clearly dictate on more than 2 embyros may be implanted as any one time, for her to have had 8 is a gross breech of those rules (http://www.ivfinfo.net/ivf_treatment.html)

its safe to say with the death threats and public backlash against such selfishness that this idiot wont be getting free diapers and stuff from Walmart then?

should locate the person who supplied the sperm (since she says it was a friend) and sting him with the fucking bill

all we need now is a 69 year old to have octuplets

[saltwaterteffy]

the blame and compensation should be placed upon the doctor that allowed her to use the supplements for her to have this many children at once.

the doctor claimed to not know that she already had six children which just further indicates his lack of discretion in the matter.

blame her doctor.

[[LoD] EE]

considering she had 8 children from in-vitro it is looking very likely that the clinic that did it is going to be under some VERY intense scrutiny

In-Vitro laws clearly dictate on more than 2 embyros may be implanted as any one time, for her to have had 8 is a gross breech of those rules (http://www.ivfinfo.net/ivf_treatment.html)

its safe to say with the death threats and public backlash against such selfishness that this idiot wont be getting free diapers and stuff from Walmart then?

should locate the person who supplied the sperm (since she says it was a friend) and sting him with the fucking bill

all we need now is a 69 year old to have octuplets

She had 6 implanted, two became twins.

[StainlessSteelRat]

the blame and compensation should be placed upon the doctor that allowed her to use the supplements for her to have this many children at once.

the doctor claimed to not know that she already had six children which just further indicates his lack of discretion in the matter.

blame her doctor.

Right, blame someone else..............

No. The doctor is a retard and should be held accountable for any legal and ethical violations but the blame rests squarely on the shoulders of the dumb broad.

How the hell does a welfare bitch afford a publicist? It's quite sad that the only ones who will suffer are the kids who had no choice in the matter.

[saltwaterteffy]

Heres a Video on the matter (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/4598556/Mother-of-octuplets-moved-to-secret-location-after-threats.html)

does she look latina to you too?

if so then good for her for extending the stereotype.

when asked how she was going to feed all of her children:

"I do believe whole heartedly that god will provide in his own way'

the amount of irony in that statement is unfathomable considering she gave birth to these children through artificial insemination. I guess she believes that god is going to bless her with gigantic lactating tits.

[saltwaterteffy]

The doctor is a retard and should be held accountable for any legal and ethical violations but the blame rests squarely on the shoulders of the dumb broad.



yeah i can agree with that

[StainlessSteelRat]

the amount of irony in that statement is unfathomable considering she gave birth to these children through artificial insemination. I guess she believes that god is going to bless her with gigantic lactating tits.

lol /win post right here

[Jezrith]

EE;2668461']
"It's my opinion that a woman's right to reproduce should be limited to a number which the parents can pay for," Charles Murray wrote in a letter to the Los Angeles Daily News. "Why should my wife and I, as taxpayers, pay child support for 14 Suleman kids?"


Socialized health care; letting the mob run your reproductive rights one patient at a time.

[chaOxz]

EE;2668461']LOS ANGELES (AP) - A big share of the financial burden of raising Nadya Suleman's 14 children could fall on the shoulders of California's taxpayers, compounding the public furor in a state already billions of dollars in the red.

Even before the 33-year-old single, unemployed mother gave birth to octuplets last month, she had been caring for her six other children with the help of $490 a month in food stamps, plus Social Security disability payments for three of the youngsters. The public aid will almost certainly be increased with the new additions to her family.

Also, the hospital where the octuplets are expected to spend seven to 12 weeks has requested reimbursement from Medi-Cal, the state's Medicaid program, for care of the premature babies, according to the Los Angeles Times. The cost has not been disclosed.

Word of the public assistance has stoked the furor over Suleman's decision to have so many children by having embryos implanted in her womb.

"It appears that, in the case of the Suleman family, raising 14 children takes not simply a village but the combined resources of the county, state and federal governments," Los Angeles Times columnist Tim Rutten wrote in Wednesday's paper. He called Suleman's story "grotesque."

On the Internet, bloggers rained insults on Suleman, calling her an "idiot," criticizing her decision to have more children when she couldn't afford the ones she had, and suggesting she be sterilized.

"It's my opinion that a woman's right to reproduce should be limited to a number which the parents can pay for," Charles Murray wrote in a letter to the Los Angeles Daily News. "Why should my wife and I, as taxpayers, pay child support for 14 Suleman kids?"

She was also berated on talk radio, where listeners accused her of manipulating the system and being an irresponsible mother.

"From the outside you can tell that this woman was playing the system," host Bryan Suits said on the "Kennedy and Suits" show on KFI-AM. "You're damn right the state should step in and seize the kids and adopt them out."

A call to Suleman's publicist Mike Furtney was not immediately returned.

In her only media interviews, Suleman told NBC's "Today" she doesn't consider the public assistance she receives to be welfare and doesn't intend to remain on it for long.

Also, a Nadya Suleman Family Web Site has been set up to collect donations for the children. It features pictures of the mother and each octuplet and has instructions for making donations by check or credit card.

Suleman, whose six older children range in age from 2 to 7, said three of them receive disability payments. She said one is autistic, but she has not disclosed the other youngsters' disabilities, and refused to say how much they get in payments.

In California, a low-income family can receive Social Security payments of up to $793 a month for each disabled child. Three children would amount to $2,379.

The Suleman octuplets' medical costs have not been disclosed, but in 2006, the average cost for a premature baby's hospital stay in California was $164,273, according to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. The average cost for just one cesarean birth in 2006 was $22,762 in California. Eight times that equals $1.3 million.

For a single mother, the cost of raising 14 children through age 17 ranges from $1.3 million to $2.7 million, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture.

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who is struggling to close a $42 billion budget gap by cutting services, declined through a spokesman to comment on the taxpayer costs associated with the octuplets' delivery and care.

Suleman received disability payments for an on-the-job back injury during a riot at a state mental hospital, collecting more than $165,000 over nearly a decade before the benefits were discontinued last year.

Some of the disability money was spent on in vitro fertilizations, which was used for all 14 of her children, Suleman said. Suleman said she also worked double shifts at the mental hospital and saved up for the treatments. She estimated that all her treatments cost $100,000.

A dozen states, including California, have laws requiring insurance companies to cover infertility treatment, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. But California does not require insurers to cover in vitro procedures. It's not clear what type of coverage Suleman has.

In the NBC interview, Suleman said she will go back to California State University, Fullerton in the fall to complete her master's degree in counseling, and will use student loans to support her children. She said she will rely on the school's daycare center and volunteers.

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I hope they take the kids and cut out her uterus. This is complete bullshit. She is no better than these illegal immigrants coming to the US to have their children on the American Citizens dime.

I guess blogs exist for people to hide shit (that they are like flies attracted too) like this from the common internet viewers...is your blog closed??

[Kusghuul]

Oh noses! Another 8 children and the government will collapse!

[Rourke]

Oh noses! Another 8 children and the government will collapse!

Dude..she has fucking 14 kids, and no home, no money, no job. WTF? She is useless. She deserves NOTHING.

[Dogmadude720]

A woman with 14 kids.....sounds like hell on earth just to be the neighbors to such people, let alone pay for it all.

[Misha]

She obviously could afford expensive infertility treatments on welfare, how does a person with such money get benefits to begin with? There are some very obvious and serious issues with the welfare system.

[ExiliuM]

That's a fucking awesome description hahaha

[Desperado[1G]]

Socialized health care; letting the mob run your reproductive rights one patient at a time.

Socialized health care; forcing the mob to pay for your litter of 14 kids without lifting a finger yourself

[Drunkenork]

I love the fact everyone calls her octomom. The queen of wellfare.

[wolfclaw67]

She just wants attention from the public, and by the media making such a big deal of it, shes getting what she wants.

[Jackhowitzer]

Right, blame someone else..............

No. The doctor is a retard and should be held accountable for any legal and ethical violations but the blame rests squarely on the shoulders of the dumb broad.

How the hell does a welfare bitch afford a publicist? It's quite sad that the only ones who will suffer are the kids who had no choice in the matter.

The doc is just doing his job, don't be a fucking retard. What ethical violations? He didn't release any of her information, or sell any of it. The lady paid for the treatment that she got, and the doctor did it. So in other words, kwit yer bitchin'.

[Jezrith]

;2671455']Socialized health care; forcing the mob to pay for your litter of 14 kids without lifting a finger yourself

Yeah, it just doesn't sound good from that angle either...

[Drunkenork]

The doc is just doing his job, don't be a fucking retard. What ethical violations? He didn't release any of her information, or sell any of it. The lady paid for the treatment that she got, and the doctor did it. So in other words, kwit yer bitchin'.

Actually, fertility and cosmetic surgery doctors are supposed to run a psychological tests to determine if the procedures are correct for them (and children if the case is being). The result of not doing this is considered malpractice.

[StainlessSteelRat]

The doc is just doing his job, don't be a fucking retard. What ethical violations? He didn't release any of her information, or sell any of it. The lady paid for the treatment that she got, and the doctor did it. So in other words, kwit yer bitchin'.

Do you have a passing understanding of English? Care to re-read my post?

Are you sure you wanted to quote me and not someone else?

Just tossin these questions out there...

[Wonderboy2402]

I think i will loosely quote the mad scientist on the Fox show "Fringe."

The human female has two nipples, meaning she is meant to have one or at most two children at once. Other animals like pigs and possums have way more, to supplement the fact they have large litters of offspring.

So, should some woman be having that many children? Artificially? The only way that they children could be brought to term was the artificial method of supporting them... both from a medical procedure and as a society / community.

Edit: http://classes.ansci.uiuc.edu/ansc438/Beginning/beginning_8.html

[Desperado[1G]]

Yeah, it just doesn't sound good from that angle either...

How dare you.

Change or be changed, comrade.

[Norse]

Bottom line is since i live in Cal i get to help pay for that pigs ignorance. Those kids are innocent and i dont mind helping them. But that retarded walking uterus should not get a dime. And once those kids hit 18 that bitch should go the fuck back to Guatemala.

[1998altima]

They should make a movie about this.

Cheaper by the Dozen + 2 - Husband.

[Attau]

Honestly. If the feds didn't force her neighbors to pay for her kids would anyone give a fuck? No.

So you're crying about the wrong thing. STFU.

[Drunkenork]

Do you have a passing understanding of English? Care to re-read my post?

Are you sure you wanted to quote me and not someone else?

Just tossin these questions out there...

Maybe you don't, I wasn't disagreeing with you jackoff.